What We Stand For…

[Timmy]

So what do you like about America Poli?

Conservatives like you hate like 80% of the people in the county .

You hate the physical make up of the US with your anti environmental ways.

You constantly complain about the government.

What DO you like?

We don't hate anyone, except for criminals. And we are better for the environment that lefties, who love to litter and leave trash everywhere. Rightes take care of their shit.
and the government is way too big, but none of this determines our love for our country.
One that brought people of all backgrounds together and one that allows people to do what they want in a way no other country has.
We have the greatest military ever
We have the greatest economy ever
We have the greatest economic system ever
That's why when we hear lefties talking about a new normal or you cant go higher than 2% growth or any of that pessimistic bullshit, we correct them.
There is not a better country ever nor a better civilization ever.

AH that’s right . You love big business . I forgot . “ I pledge allegiance to the multinational corporations...”

what a talking point.
No where did I say that, but what's funny is you think big business is the opposite of big government.......that's hilarious.

Hey, you are the one who replies “the economy” when asked what you love about America.

 

[buckeye45_73]

So what do you like about America Poli?

Conservatives like you hate like 80% of the people in the county .

You hate the physical make up of the US with your anti environmental ways.

You constantly complain about the government.

What DO you like?

We don't hate anyone, except for criminals. And we are better for the environment that lefties, who love to litter and leave trash everywhere. Rightes take care of their shit.
and the government is way too big, but none of this determines our love for our country.
One that brought people of all backgrounds together and one that allows people to do what they want in a way no other country has.
We have the greatest military ever
We have the greatest economy ever
We have the greatest economic system ever
That's why when we hear lefties talking about a new normal or you cant go higher than 2% growth or any of that pessimistic bullshit, we correct them.
There is not a better country ever nor a better civilization ever.

AH that’s right . You love big business . I forgot . “ I pledge allegiance to the multinational corporations...”

what a talking point.
No where did I say that, but what's funny is you think big business is the opposite of big government.......that's hilarious.

Hey, you are the one who replies “the economy” when asked what you love about America.

Yeah, I do, our economy is unlike any other, it's the closest thing to pure capitalism there is. It's breathtakingly awesome.
Timmy you tried to call me out, I shit on you. I'm smarter and I'll crush you on any subject.

 

[Tax Man]

…and what they fight against.

America.



1.We live in the finest nation in the history of the world.

Yet….just before America’s birthday, we see this headline:

“In U.S., Record-Low 47% Extremely Proud to Be Americans … a low point in U.S. patriotism. For the first time in Gallup's 18-year history asking U.S. adults how proud they are to be Americans, fewer than a majority say they are "extremely proud." In U.S., Record-Low 47% Extremely Proud to Be Americans


Certainly no surprise, the group largely responsible for that deplorable showing is the same one that favors socialism over capitalism, and open borders over American sovereignty….Democrats.

a.The most striking partisan differences come in reactions to the word "socialism." Just 15% of Republicans react positively to "socialism" while 77% react negatively. By more than two-to-one (64% to 26%), independents also have a negative impression of "socialism."

However, Democrats are evenly divided -- 44% have a positive reaction to "socialism" while 43% react negatively
Socialism Not So Negative Capitalism Not So Positive Pew Research Center

“Socialism” Not So Negative, “Capitalism” Not So Positive



b.“…32% of Democrats -- down from 43% in 2017 and 56% in 2013 -- are extremely proud. The decline preceded the election of Donald Trump but has accelerated in the past year. Seventy-four percent of Republicans are extremely proud,…”



2.Aside from the obvious….the efficacy of government schooling….

….the deeper explanation is that the Leftists….Democrats/Liberals….see government as ‘the country,’ while those of us who have a firmer grasp on the concept of what ‘my country’ means recognize how truly unique…and great….it is.

‘This country’ is the values inherent in the Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution, an historically different idea of what a country should be whether it meets those expectations 100% or not. All men created equal, and granted inalienable rights by their Creator…unique proposition in all of history.



All men created equal, and granted inalienable rights by their Creator…a unique proposition in all of history.


That’s what we on the Right are extremely proud of.

You are proud to be an ignorant regressive. Enjoy the America you make. I will not.

 

[PoliticalChic]

So what do you like about America Poli?

Conservatives like you hate like 80% of the people in the county .

You hate the physical make up of the US with your anti environmental ways.

You constantly complain about the government.

What DO you like?

We don't hate anyone, except for criminals. And we are better for the environment that lefties, who love to litter and leave trash everywhere. Rightes take care of their shit.
and the government is way too big, but none of this determines our love for our country.
One that brought people of all backgrounds together and one that allows people to do what they want in a way no other country has.
We have the greatest military ever
We have the greatest economy ever
We have the greatest economic system ever
That's why when we hear lefties talking about a new normal or you cant go higher than 2% growth or any of that pessimistic bullshit, we correct them.
There is not a better country ever nor a better civilization ever.

Thank you for saving me the burden of answering that ....'challenged' ....individual.

 

[PoliticalChic]

So what do you like about America Poli?

Conservatives like you hate like 80% of the people in the county .

You hate the physical make up of the US with your anti environmental ways.

You constantly complain about the government.

What DO you like?

We don't hate anyone, except for criminals. And we are better for the environment that lefties, who love to litter and leave trash everywhere. Rightes take care of their shit.
and the government is way too big, but none of this determines our love for our country.
One that brought people of all backgrounds together and one that allows people to do what they want in a way no other country has.
We have the greatest military ever
We have the greatest economy ever
We have the greatest economic system ever
That's why when we hear lefties talking about a new normal or you cant go higher than 2% growth or any of that pessimistic bullshit, we correct them.
There is not a better country ever nor a better civilization ever.

AH that’s right . You love big business . I forgot . “ I pledge allegiance to the multinational corporations...”

 

[PoliticalChic]

9. Who were those great Americans, the Founders???

They were deeply religious, steeped in Judeo-Christian tradition- contrary to what you were taught in neo-Marxist government school.

“Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness….”



But happiness is not what you might think.

This is the meaning on which Jefferson based the motto of America:

Happiness and virtue

Happiness is not pleasure, nor is it virtue. It is the exercise of virtue. ... Happiness depends on acquiring a moral character, where one displays the virtues of courage, generosity, justice, friendship, and citizenship in one's life. These virtues involve striking a balance or "mean" between an excess and a deficiency.
Aristotle and Happiness - Pursuit-of-Happiness.org
www.pursuit-of-happiness.org/history-of-happiness/aristotle/



…happiness depends on the cultivation of virtue, though his virtues are somewhat more individualistic than the essentially social virtues of the Confucians. Yet as we shall see, Aristotle was convinced that a genuinely happy life required the fulfillment of a broad range of conditions, including physical as well as mental well-being. In this way he introduced the idea of a science of happiness in the classical sense, in terms of a new field of knowledge.
Aristotle and Happiness



"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
John Adams


No wonder Democrats/Liberals hate this country.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Trump's vision of America is something to be extremely proud of?

Very

An evolving fascist state? Absolutely not. As Churchill would say, "Never. Even laying on the ground choking on our own blood. Never."

 

[JakeStarkey]

obucky, we live in an evolving world, and the 'greatest' that America has had will not always be the "greatest now or in the future."

We do the best we can as a country without blowing up ourselves or the world.

 

[Timmy]

So what do you like about America Poli?

Conservatives like you hate like 80% of the people in the county .

You hate the physical make up of the US with your anti environmental ways.

You constantly complain about the government.

What DO you like?

We don't hate anyone, except for criminals. And we are better for the environment that lefties, who love to litter and leave trash everywhere. Rightes take care of their shit.
and the government is way too big, but none of this determines our love for our country.
One that brought people of all backgrounds together and one that allows people to do what they want in a way no other country has.
We have the greatest military ever
We have the greatest economy ever
We have the greatest economic system ever
That's why when we hear lefties talking about a new normal or you cant go higher than 2% growth or any of that pessimistic bullshit, we correct them.
There is not a better country ever nor a better civilization ever.

AH that’s right . You love big business . I forgot . “ I pledge allegiance to the multinational corporations...”

what a talking point.
No where did I say that, but what's funny is you think big business is the opposite of big government.......that's hilarious.

Hey, you are the one who replies “the economy” when asked what you love about America.

Yeah, I do, our economy is unlike any other, it's the closest thing to pure capitalism there is. It's breathtakingly awesome.
Timmy you tried to call me out, I shit on you. I'm smarter and I'll crush you on any subject.

Lol. If you say so!

I’ll give you credit for at least having an answer. Unlike Poli who can only cut n paste memes or link to nonsense articles.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Trump's vision of America is something to be extremely proud of?

Very

An evolving fascist state? Absolutely not. As Churchill would say, "Never. Even laying on the ground choking on our own blood. Never."

Nope the fascists are the lefties that protest and harass you for getting a burger. Learn the terms before just throwing them out there.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Trump's vision of America is something to be extremely proud of?

Very

An evolving fascist state? Absolutely not. As Churchill would say, "Never. Even laying on the ground choking on our own blood. Never."

Nope the fascists are the lefties that protest and harass you for getting a burger. Learn the terms before just throwing them out there.

You have described yourself and the far right. You will never be allowed to misuse terms. The alt right will never be allowed to take over this country. If with Trump as pres, the alt right are still corraled on their own rez.

 

[PoliticalChic]

So what do you like about America Poli?

Conservatives like you hate like 80% of the people in the county .

You hate the physical make up of the US with your anti environmental ways.

You constantly complain about the government.

What DO you like?

1) We saved the word from tyranny three times:

2) We’re first at spreading freedom and democracy and there is no second:

3) We do more to prevent war and create world stability than anyone else:

4) We aren’t using our vast power for conquest:

5) Our economy, technological advantage and soft power are unsurpassed in human history:
John Hawkins - 5 Reasons America Is The Greatest Nation in History

 

[Tehon]

So what do you like about America Poli?

Conservatives like you hate like 80% of the people in the county .

You hate the physical make up of the US with your anti environmental ways.

You constantly complain about the government.

What DO you like?

We don't hate anyone, except for criminals. And we are better for the environment that lefties, who love to litter and leave trash everywhere. Rightes take care of their shit.
and the government is way too big, but none of this determines our love for our country.
One that brought people of all backgrounds together and one that allows people to do what they want in a way no other country has.
We have the greatest military ever
We have the greatest economy ever
We have the greatest economic system ever
That's why when we hear lefties talking about a new normal or you cant go higher than 2% growth or any of that pessimistic bullshit, we correct them.
There is not a better country ever nor a better civilization ever.

AH that’s right . You love big business . I forgot . “ I pledge allegiance to the multinational corporations...”

what a talking point.
No where did I say that, but what's funny is you think big business is the opposite of big government.......that's hilarious.

Hey, you are the one who replies “the economy” when asked what you love about America.

Yeah, I do, our economy is unlike any other, it's the closest thing to pure capitalism there is. It's breathtakingly awesome.
Timmy you tried to call me out, I shit on you. I'm smarter and I'll crush you on any subject.

Not even in the top ten.

Index of Economic Freedom - Wikipedia

 

[PoliticalChic]

Trump's vision of America is something to be extremely proud of?

Very

An evolving fascist state? Absolutely not. As Churchill would say, "Never. Even laying on the ground choking on our own blood. Never."

Nope the fascists are the lefties that protest and harass you for getting a burger. Learn the terms before just throwing them out there.

1. Just as one would expect attacks on free speech, the first amendment, from Fascists.....it represents just one more characteristic they share with Democrats/Liberals.....

And, speaking of Fascists, Franklin Roosevelt loved Mussolini and his sort of Fascism.
In fact, he imposed it on America, calling it the New Deal.

2. " As an economic system, fascism is socialism with a capitalist veneer. ... In its day (the 1920s and 1930s), fascism was seen as the happy medium between boom-and-bust-prone liberal capitalism, with its alleged class conflict, wasteful competition, and profit-oriented egoism, and revolutionary Marxism, with its violent and socially divisive persecution of the bourgeoisie. Fascism substituted the particularity of nationalism and racialism—“blood and soil”—for the internationalism of both classical liberalism and Marxism.....

.... Mussolini praised the New Deal as “boldly . . . interventionist in the field of economics,” and Roosevelt complimented Mussolini for his “honest purpose of restoring Italy” and acknowledged that he kept “in fairly close touch with that admirable Italian gentleman.”

Also, Hugh Johnson, head of the National Recovery Administration, was known to carry a copy of Raffaello Viglione’s pro-Mussolini book, The Corporate State, with him, presented a copy to Labor Secretary Frances Perkins, and, on retirement, paid tribute to the Italian dictator." Fascism – Econlib

 

[PoliticalChic]

We don't hate anyone, except for criminals. And we are better for the environment that lefties, who love to litter and leave trash everywhere. Rightes take care of their shit.
and the government is way too big, but none of this determines our love for our country.
One that brought people of all backgrounds together and one that allows people to do what they want in a way no other country has.
We have the greatest military ever
We have the greatest economy ever
We have the greatest economic system ever
That's why when we hear lefties talking about a new normal or you cant go higher than 2% growth or any of that pessimistic bullshit, we correct them.
There is not a better country ever nor a better civilization ever.

AH that’s right . You love big business . I forgot . “ I pledge allegiance to the multinational corporations...”

what a talking point.
No where did I say that, but what's funny is you think big business is the opposite of big government.......that's hilarious.

Hey, you are the one who replies “the economy” when asked what you love about America.

Yeah, I do, our economy is unlike any other, it's the closest thing to pure capitalism there is. It's breathtakingly awesome.
Timmy you tried to call me out, I shit on you. I'm smarter and I'll crush you on any subject.

Not even in the top ten.

Index of Economic Freedom - Wikipedia

Put your Dinaro where you put your dinner....

....I'll help ya' pack.

 

[PoliticalChic]

10. The quintessential American, Henry David Thoreau, was an icon in terms of what is central to the view of conservatives, real Americans, folks who are extremely proud of our nation.

In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states: “ There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”



a.“The view of the individual as the repository of natural rights was not accepted by any governments in 1776. In fact, all rejected it and used violence to suppress it [exactly as Democrats do to this day]. To the minds of those in government in the mid-18th century, the king was divine …

The idea that each human being possesses inherent natural rights by virtue of one's humanity is not just an academic argument. It has real-life consequences, which Jefferson recognized. Those consequences are implicated when government seeks to curtail rights …”
Judge Andrew Napolitano: The values underlying Independence Day




11.Every one of these political doctrines is based on the primacy of the collective, the Germanic idea, expressed by Hegel:

"...the State 'has the supreme right against the individual, whose supreme duty is to be a member of the State... for the right of the world spirit is above all special privileges.'" Author/historian William Shirer, quoting Georg Hegel in his The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (1959, page 144)


Nazis, Fascists, Progressives, Liberals, Socialists, and Communists.


And these just happen to be the folks who aren’t extremely proud of this nation.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Trump's vision of America is something to be extremely proud of?

Very

An evolving fascist state? Absolutely not. As Churchill would say, "Never. Even laying on the ground choking on our own blood. Never."

Nope the fascists are the lefties that protest and harass you for getting a burger. Learn the terms before just throwing them out there.

You have described yourself and the far right. You will never be allowed to misuse terms. The alt right will never be allowed to take over this country. If with Trump as pres, the alt right are still corraled on their own rez.

Jake you don't ever offer anything. you don't know what a fascist is, you use it like you do neo con and alt right. you see them in talking points and just use the term, not even knowing what it means.

 

[PoliticalChic]

 

[JakeStarkey]

OK, that is funny.

 

[Wry Catcher]

…and what they fight against.

America.



1.We live in the finest nation in the history of the world.

Yet….just before America’s birthday, we see this headline:

“In U.S., Record-Low 47% Extremely Proud to Be Americans … a low point in U.S. patriotism. For the first time in Gallup's 18-year history asking U.S. adults how proud they are to be Americans, fewer than a majority say they are "extremely proud." In U.S., Record-Low 47% Extremely Proud to Be Americans


Certainly no surprise, the group largely responsible for that deplorable showing is the same one that favors socialism over capitalism, and open borders over American sovereignty….Democrats.

a.The most striking partisan differences come in reactions to the word "socialism." Just 15% of Republicans react positively to "socialism" while 77% react negatively. By more than two-to-one (64% to 26%), independents also have a negative impression of "socialism."

However, Democrats are evenly divided -- 44% have a positive reaction to "socialism" while 43% react negatively
Socialism Not So Negative Capitalism Not So Positive Pew Research Center

“Socialism” Not So Negative, “Capitalism” Not So Positive



b.“…32% of Democrats -- down from 43% in 2017 and 56% in 2013 -- are extremely proud. The decline preceded the election of Donald Trump but has accelerated in the past year. Seventy-four percent of Republicans are extremely proud,…”



2.Aside from the obvious….the efficacy of government schooling….

….the deeper explanation is that the Leftists….Democrats/Liberals….see government as ‘the country,’ while those of us who have a firmer grasp on the concept of what ‘my country’ means recognize how truly unique…and great….it is.

‘This country’ is the values inherent in the Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution, an historically different idea of what a country should be whether it meets those expectations 100% or not. All men created equal, and granted inalienable rights by their Creator…unique proposition in all of history.



All men created equal, and granted inalienable rights by their Creator…a unique proposition in all of history.


That’s what we on the Right are extremely proud of.

Someone on here made a great point earlier about sudden lack of patriotism in the face of issues or laws or cultures with which we disagree. While we are all guilty of this to some degree, I think it's very important to recognize the difference between patriotic relativism as required when clear and present and identifiable threats arise to the foundations our nation was founded on; to our families, our religious beliefs and our traditional American way of life. Even the founders crafted into the Bill of Rights a suggested action and justification for dealing with internal tyranny and decay of fundamental right and wrong . . .

From the Preamble

"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

…and what they fight against.

America.



1.We live in the finest nation in the history of the world.

Yet….just before America’s birthday, we see this headline:

“In U.S., Record-Low 47% Extremely Proud to Be Americans … a low point in U.S. patriotism. For the first time in Gallup's 18-year history asking U.S. adults how proud they are to be Americans, fewer than a majority say they are "extremely proud." In U.S., Record-Low 47% Extremely Proud to Be Americans


Certainly no surprise, the group largely responsible for that deplorable showing is the same one that favors socialism over capitalism, and open borders over American sovereignty….Democrats.

a.The most striking partisan differences come in reactions to the word "socialism." Just 15% of Republicans react positively to "socialism" while 77% react negatively. By more than two-to-one (64% to 26%), independents also have a negative impression of "socialism."

However, Democrats are evenly divided -- 44% have a positive reaction to "socialism" while 43% react negatively
Socialism Not So Negative Capitalism Not So Positive Pew Research Center

“Socialism” Not So Negative, “Capitalism” Not So Positive



b.“…32% of Democrats -- down from 43% in 2017 and 56% in 2013 -- are extremely proud. The decline preceded the election of Donald Trump but has accelerated in the past year. Seventy-four percent of Republicans are extremely proud,…”



2.Aside from the obvious….the efficacy of government schooling….

….the deeper explanation is that the Leftists….Democrats/Liberals….see government as ‘the country,’ while those of us who have a firmer grasp on the concept of what ‘my country’ means recognize how truly unique…and great….it is.

‘This country’ is the values inherent in the Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution, an historically different idea of what a country should be whether it meets those expectations 100% or not. All men created equal, and granted inalienable rights by their Creator…unique proposition in all of history.



All men created equal, and granted inalienable rights by their Creator…a unique proposition in all of history.


That’s what we on the Right are extremely proud of.

Someone on here made a great point earlier about sudden lack of patriotism in the face of issues or laws or cultures with which we disagree. While we are all guilty of this to some degree, I think it's very important to recognize the difference between patriotic relativism as required when clear and present and identifiable threats arise to the foundations our nation was founded on; to our families, our religious beliefs and our traditional American way of life. Even the founders crafted into the Bill of Rights a suggested action and justification for dealing with internal tyranny and decay of fundamental right and wrong . . .

From the Preamble

"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

this is a quote taken from the Declaration of Independence, not the Preamble.