TemplarKormac
Political Atheist
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I couldn't help but remember back in 2004 during the thick of the Iraq War, how our men and women fought hard and paid for every inch of ground they took with their life's blood. Today, 10 years later, in Ramadi and Fallujah, places where the fighting was the fiercest and where the most of our troops died, the terrorist group Al Qaeda, that Obama claimed had been "decimated" and put "on the run" has retaken those places with little resistance. Their flags now fly over those cities once again. In Robert Gates' new book Duty, he recalls how Obama's decisions regarding the war were purely political. He recalls a particular disdain for the military in general which exuded from the President. This all leads me to ask, what were we fighting for? Was Obama pulling out of Iraq purely indeed motivated by politics? Did he care that one day that such a pullout would create a power vacuum there? Did he realize he was relinquishing all that our troops fought for back to the enemy?
What were we fighting for? What on Earth were we doing there, if not to win? It's saddening to know that our president thinks so little of our men and women, to end a war prematurely and give up everything they fought hard and died for, simply to put himself in a better political position to trounce his rivals. Why did he have military advisers if he was simply going to ignore them as he did Mr. Gates? I fail to understand how a man can have simply no commitment to the efforts his men and women in uniform are putting in overseas. I'm a Libertarian, and I don't take too kindly to foreign intervention in the first place. But I was also taught as a boy, "If you start a fight son, you finish it."
What were we fighting for? Nothing it seems, nothing but the political gains of one man. My Father fought in the first Iraq war, and I can tell you the he is none too happy to see what he fought for, risked life and limb for--- gone; taken back by the enemy. What were we really fighting for? You tell me.
LINO Libertarian in name only. Come on Templar, you know tou are just a Neo-Con calling yourself a libertarian because it's the easiest way to take no responsibility for anything that happens.
Real libertarians would despise the Tea Party, which you stated you are a member of. The Tea Party sold out long ago to corporate intrests and the Republican machine.
The fact is that Liberals warned that Republicans were not going to be able to impose democracy on another country.
And Liberals were correct, once again.
The fact is that Liberals warned that Republicans were not going to be able to impose democracy on another country.
And Liberals were correct, once again.
The fact is that Liberals warned that Republicans were not going to be able to impose democracy on another country.
And Liberals were correct, once again.
Like all those liberals who voted for the war, and continually voted to fund it?
Yes, you are correct. True Libertarians also warned against it.The fact is that Liberals warned that Republicans were not going to be able to impose democracy on another country.
And Liberals were correct, once again.
I am sure you meant to say "liberals" and Libertarians were correct, once again.
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I agree few liberals passed the profiles in courage moment .... BUT once the troops are in the field, you don't cut off their bullets ... or call them baby killers. Or protest in London.
The fact is that Liberals warned that Republicans were not going to be able to impose democracy on another country.
And Liberals were correct, once again.
Like all those liberals who voted for the war, and continually voted to fund it?
Liberals didn't vote for the Iraq War.
Now say something stupid, like "Hillary voted for it".![]()
I agree few liberals passed the profiles in courage moment .... BUT once the troops are in the field, you don't cut off their bullets ... or call them baby killers. Or protest in London.
Explain the bolded, please. Is it just typed awkwardly?
Yes, you are correct. True Libertarians also warned against it.The fact is that Liberals warned that Republicans were not going to be able to impose democracy on another country.
And Liberals were correct, once again.
I am sure you meant to say "liberals" and Libertarians were correct, once again.
.
The fact is that Liberals warned that Republicans were not going to be able to impose democracy on another country.
And Liberals were correct, once again.
Like all those liberals who voted for the war, and continually voted to fund it?
Liberals didn't vote for the Iraq War.
Now say something stupid, like "Hillary voted for it".![]()
The zero sum ratio clearly reveals any further involvement in Iraq will lead only to further loss.
The eventual outcome is leaning to Iraq allied to Iran and opposed to our interests in the ME.
Oh, my mistake. I thought the Democratic Party was supposed to be the liberal party.
There were 126 Democrats in the House liberal enough to vote against it. Only 21 in the Senate.
Oh, my mistake. I thought the Democratic Party was supposed to be the liberal party.
There were 126 Democrats in the House liberal enough to vote against it. Only 21 in the Senate.
Proving that plenty of self-identified liberals did vote for the Iraq war.