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I'm going to pretend that you didn't just cut out the vast majority of my response, choosing not to respond to it. Usually when someone does that, it gives me the feeling that they're not actually interested in honest discussion.I'm curious, why do all the mass murderers in America seem to have a history of it? Regardless of what was used to kill?Mentally ill people are less likely to commit violent crimes, acting like they are a problem is actually incredibly ignorant, especially since the data is freely available to you. There's really no excuse.
Because mental illness is completely arbitrary, as I've been explaining to Billy. Being depressed is a mental illness, not wanting to follow the directions of an "authority figure" is considered a mental illness, etc. Besides that, when anything is covered in the state-run media, it's to push the agenda of the Government, so in many cases it'll either be a false flag, or misinformation will be attached. A good example is the recent Walmart shooting, where the guy apparently changed clothes before being caught, and managed to shoot 30 people, with a 30 round gun, with no spare ammo on him.
But there is no such thing as an assault rifle that you are referencing.
Riveting, you've told me the same thing three times. You really should read a person's post instead of repeating yourself over and over.Disorders are defined as pervasive, long term, and create distress in those afflicted and/or those around them. You can define “normal” however you want beyond that I guess.Once again, that's completely arbitrary. Any behavior can cause distress in those around a person, or the person themselves. Since there's no basis for normal, as normal doesn't exist, anyone can pick out a pattern of behavior and attach a label for it. A good example is a person laughing when they're nervous; Since a person can get nervous at any time, people around them can find the behavior disturbing, especially when it happens at inappropriate times. Someone can arbitrarily decide that this is a mental disorder.ODD is based on a pattern of pervasive behavior that causes long term distress for the person and causes distress in the people around them. No one is suggesting that a kid simply throwing a tantrum has ODD. It’s measured by how often it happens and what sort of problems it creates.That's incredibly arbitrary, and Oppositional Defiant Disorder is a perfect example of that. There's no actual basis for normal behavior, since every single individual is different. All that needs to be done is to pick out behavior loosely considered strange, then attach a label to it.Mental disorders are defined by being pervasive and a pattern in behavior. If the behavior causes chronic distress to the afflicted or to those around him or her long term, it is considered a disorder. That is how mental disorders are defined.
Besides, the mentally ill are only being used as scape goats, they're LESS likely to hurt anyone, and MORE likely to be victims, actually most likely to hurt themselves rather than anyone else.
Regardless of how many times you repeat to me what you've been told, that's STILL completely arbitrary and can be said for any behavior, I even gave you a goddamn example. I swear, if you keep ignoring my posts and repeating yourself, I'll just start screenshotting my messages and reposting them.Nobody likes how you just talk at people instead of to them, it defeats the purpose of talking on a message board. Go start a damn blog or something.
No they are guns, you are against gun ownership, it’s one pull trigger just like hand guns. But longer and harder to carry ..90% of gun deaths are done BY HAND GUNS.But there is no such thing as an assault rifle that you are referencing.
No there isn't. My soldier dad just educated me on the subject.
So, what would you rather call them? Machine guns?
I didn't know I was going to cause this much chaos with just two words.
No they are guns, you are against gun ownership
I see. So nevermind the posts I made agreeing with you?I’m done with your POSTS they make no senseNo they are guns, you are against gun ownership
Read the post above this one.
The problem isn't the guns, it's the people. The sanctity of human life has been devalued by leftists.
Hardly anyone has an "assault rifle".
Owning an assault rifle requires a Class III license.
The problem isn't the guns, it's the people. The sanctity of human life has been devalued by leftists.
Hardly anyone has an "assault rifle".
Owning an assault rifle requires a Class III license.
So, what does the law classify as an assault rifle? I, and primarily Jitss would like to know. Seemingly there is no such thing as an "assault rifle".
Yet other economically advanced countries demonstrate the solution everyday. 'No solution'!My conclusion:
There is no solution. Neither side wants one.
The problem isn't the guns, it's the people. The sanctity of human life has been devalued by leftists.
Hardly anyone has an "assault rifle".
Owning an assault rifle requires a Class III license.
So, what does the law classify as an assault rifle? I, and primarily Jitss would like to know. Seemingly there is no such thing as an "assault rifle".
A select-fire rifle capable of full-auto fire.
Reopening Mental Hospitals would go a long way. Other countries operate Sanitariums.
The problem isn't the guns, it's the people. The sanctity of human life has been devalued by leftists.
Hardly anyone has an "assault rifle".
Owning an assault rifle requires a Class III license.
So, what does the law classify as an assault rifle? I, and primarily Jitss would like to know. Seemingly there is no such thing as an "assault rifle".
A select-fire rifle capable of full-auto fire.
Reopening Mental Hospitals would go a long way. Other countries operate Sanitariums.
That's what my father says. He knows, he owns an AR-15. He's a a gun aficionado. He's been around weaponry long enough to tell the difference.
Curious about one thing though. What good would the mental hospitals be if we don't strengthen our mental health system?
Would we not be hitting at the root of this problem by revamping our mental health system?
Forgive me, I have transgressed on your sensibilities.OKTexas Like I said, there seems to be no clear cut solution to this problem. Even with preferred elected officials in our government we still cannot get the solutions we want to pass, nor are there any willing to enforce existing law.
So, what are we left with? An impasse that nobody is willing to breach.
I'm comfortable with the law we have, enforcement is the key. Unfortunately the trend now days seems to be softening punishment instead of holding criminals responsible.
First don't include me in that ubiquitous "we", but what would you like to see passed, be specific.we still cannot get the solutions we want to pass
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What I want passed are laws pertaining to mental health (see post #2). If there are loopholes that exist in our gun laws, close them. But alas, that will be met with resistance too. Essentially, our government is powerless to do anything. Either for lack of want for enforcing existing law, or for amending them to account for mental illness.
Is it wrong of me to want this all done without infringing on the constitutional rights of others? Or am I being naive?
First, I suggest strengthening laws involving people diagnosed with DSM-IV disorders which include anger management. People like me. I am noticing a trend in which the shooter was triggered by a negative life event or by reckless political rhetoric. Political rhetoric can spark uncontrollable anger in some, leading to what happened in El Paso.
In Odessa, the killer was fired from his job just hours before his rampage.
Do you not see the correlation? An inability to control negative thoughts and emotions. Mental illness.
My solution isn't perfect, I know. But we need to start somewhere. Start with mental health.
First, I suggest strengthening laws involving people diagnosed with DSM-IV disorders which include anger management. People like me. I am noticing a trend in which the shooter was triggered by a negative life event or by reckless political rhetoric. Political rhetoric can spark uncontrollable anger in some, leading to what happened in El Paso.
In Odessa, the killer was fired from his job just hours before his rampage.
Do you not see the correlation? An inability to control negative thoughts and emotions. Mental illness.
My solution isn't perfect, I know. But we need to start somewhere. Start with mental health.
A mea culpa of sorts:
Although the Odessa killer failed a background check due to his mental health, he obtained an illegally crafted firearm from an illegal private seller.
I am retracting the comment that he "exploited a loophole". He flat out ignored our existing gun laws.
So, what good are more laws going to do? Can anyone tell me before I pass out at my desk?
Less than 1% of all murders20 mass killing in the last 21 months. Around one a month is pretty regular, wouldn't you say?"Regular slaughter" you say?
US mass shootings, 1982-2019: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation
If you could ride in on your magic sheep and wave your magic wand and end all mass shootings , it wouldn't even put a dent in the murder rate
