Zone1 When did Judaism emerge?

[Indeependent]

The authors are reputable.. Israel's finest scholars and archaeologists.

What about the ones who disagree?
Do they suck?

 

[Lisa558]

You will have to prove that knowledge

Why do I have to prove it, and Surada doesn’t have to prove what she’s said? I’ve already posted a couple of reputable sources.

 

[Indeependent]

I posted from the History.com site and an educational site, also reputable.

I’m not sure of your point, unless it’s to lessen the claims of Jews. I remember when you came out with an article saying Jews were never slaves in Egypt and didn’t wander in the desert - and you did so on Passover, right after Jews celebrated our redemption by G-d. Sort of a slap in the face.

If I didn’t know, I’d think you’re looking for ways to discredit the Jews.

BINGO!

 

[Lisa558]

What about the ones who disagree?
Do they suck?

They don’t count, doncha know.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Why do I have to prove it, and Surada doesn’t have to prove what she’s said? I’ve already posted a couple of reputable sources.

Because I already know your not as good as independent or me

 

[Lisa558]

Because I already know your not as good as independent or me

Try again in English.

 

[Indeependent]

Because I already know your not as good as independent or me

I have many more years of Torah Observance, which mandates knowledge, under my belt, but Lisa is joining the fray and doing quite well.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Try again in English.

I speak polish and German,

 

[surada]

What about the ones who disagree?
Do they suck?

Read the article.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I have many more years of Torah Observance, which mandates knowledge, under my belt, but Lisa is joining the fray and doing quite well.

I know

 

[Indeependent]

Because I already know your not as good as independent or me

The Jews of the last 2,000 years or so, since the destruction of the 2nd Temple, have been more centralized in terms of Halacha, otherwise, the exile would have created hundreds of groups of genetic Jews with very different practices.

 

[Lisa558]

I have many more years of Torah Observance, which mandates knowledge, under my belt, but Lisa is joining the fray and doing quite well.

I try! My next class starts in two weeks.

 

[Indeependent]

Read the article.

Why? I have friends who are archeologists, and they say these opinions are bullshit.

 

[Blackrook]

There's too many factual errors on this thread to correct them all.

Abraham was not a Jew. He was the first worshipper of Yahweh, but his grandson Jacob was the father of the twelve tribes of Israel. Of these, only the descendants of Judah are Jews.

 

[surada]

The Jews of the last 2,000 years or so, since the destruction of the 2nd Temple, have been more centralized in terms of Halacha, otherwise, the exile would have created hundreds of groups of genetic Jews with very different practices.

The article mentions that.

Hasmonean Dynasty | History, Map, Importance, Revolt, & Facts

Hasmonean dynasty, also spelled Hasmonaean, dynasty of ancient Judaea, descendants of the Maccabee family. The name derived (according to Flavius Josephus, in The Antiquities of the Jews) from the name of their ancestor Hasmoneus (Hasmon), or Asamonaios. In 143 (or 142) bce Simon Maccabeus, son...

www.britannica.com

 

[Wyatt earp]

I try! My next class starts in two weeks.

Why do you need to go to school, when it's common knowledge Lisa?

 

[Lisa558]

I speak polish and German,

Well I only speak English (and a bissel of Yiddish), so if you want me to respond we will have to use the common language of this site.

 

[surada]

Why? I have friends who are archeologists, and they say these opinions are bullshit.

What are you afraid of?

 

[Indeependent]

There's too many factual errors on this thread to correct them all.

Abraham was not a Jew. He was the first worshipper of Yahweh, but his grandson Jacob was the father of the twelve tribes of Israel. Of these, only the descendants of Judah are Jews.

You are not wrong.
Avraham was not a Jew because everyone told him to F* off.
The overwhelming majority of Jews today are from the tribes of Yehudah, Levi and Ephraim.
The others are lost amongst the nations, but that's what they wanted.

 

[Indeependent]

What are you afraid of?

Nothing; I know people on the ground.
What are you afraid of?