When The Public is Disarmed, This is What They Get Instead

[Brain357]

Not very many years. Losing a world war is kind of a big deal.

The disarmed are going way more years without guns...

You are insulting our military and suggesting they would kill civilians?

Not in Mexico...twit.....the unarmed people in Northern Mexico are being murdered in their thousands by the police and military who are working for the drug cartels...with rifles that you morons say only the police and military need.....twit.

They can own guns in Mexico. They are not disarmed. Sorry moron.

Wrong asshole......it is in their Constitution but is not allowed by their government...exactly what you morons want here....

They can and do own guns moron. Stop the lies already.

asswipe.....they are not allowed to own guns...the government believes the same dumb crap the anti gunners here believe....

Mexico’s Gun Control Laws: A Model for the United States? by David B. Kopel :: SSRN

V. CONCLUSION

In a nation where the constitution guarantees the right to arms, the laws ought to provide a practical, functional system for law-abiding persons to acquire arms.

In practice, the Mexican system fails to do so.

Law-abiding citizens are often forced to resort to extra-legal means to obtain arms for lawful self-defense.

Meanwhile, the pervasive corruption of Mexican law enforcement, which is substantially worsened by drug prohibition, ensures a ready supply of the most dangerous arms for the most dangerous criminals.

A common misconception is that firearms are illegal in Mexico and that no person may possess them.[3] This belief originates due the general perception that only members of law enforcement, the armed forces, or those in armed security protection are authorized to have them. While it is true that Mexico possesses strict gun laws,[4] where most typesand calibers are reserved to military and law enforcement, the acquisition and ownership of certain firearms and ammunition remains a constitutional right to all Mexican citizens and foreign legal residents;[5] given the requirements and conditions to exercise such right are fulfilled in accordance to the law.[6]

 

[2aguy]

A common misconception is that firearms are illegal in Mexico and that no person may possess them.[3] This belief originates due the general perception that only members of law enforcement, the armed forces, or those in armed security protection are authorized to have them. While it is true that Mexico possesses strict gun laws,[4] where most typesand calibers are reserved to military and law enforcement, the acquisition and ownership of certain firearms and ammunition remains a constitutional right to all Mexican citizens and foreign legal residents;[5] given the requirements and conditions to exercise such right are fulfilled in accordance to the law.[6]

It is in their Constitution twit...but the military owns the only gun store in the country........you are such a lying twit......


Mexico’s Gun Control Laws: A Model for the United States? by David B. Kopel :: SSRN

V. CONCLUSION

In a nation where the constitution guarantees the right to arms, the laws ought to provide a practical, functional system for law-abiding persons to acquire arms.

In practice, the Mexican system fails to do so.

Law-abiding citizens are often forced to resort to extra-legal means to obtain arms for lawful self-defense.

Meanwhile, the pervasive corruption of Mexican law enforcement, which is substantially worsened by drug prohibition, ensures a ready supply of the most dangerous arms for the most dangerous criminals.

 

[Brain357]

A common misconception is that firearms are illegal in Mexico and that no person may possess them.[3] This belief originates due the general perception that only members of law enforcement, the armed forces, or those in armed security protection are authorized to have them. While it is true that Mexico possesses strict gun laws,[4] where most typesand calibers are reserved to military and law enforcement, the acquisition and ownership of certain firearms and ammunition remains a constitutional right to all Mexican citizens and foreign legal residents;[5] given the requirements and conditions to exercise such right are fulfilled in accordance to the law.[6]

It is in their Constitution twit...but the military owns the only gun store in the country........you are such a lying twit......


Mexico’s Gun Control Laws: A Model for the United States? by David B. Kopel :: SSRN

V. CONCLUSION

In a nation where the constitution guarantees the right to arms, the laws ought to provide a practical, functional system for law-abiding persons to acquire arms.

In practice, the Mexican system fails to do so.

Law-abiding citizens are often forced to resort to extra-legal means to obtain arms for lawful self-defense.

Meanwhile, the pervasive corruption of Mexican law enforcement, which is substantially worsened by drug prohibition, ensures a ready supply of the most dangerous arms for the most dangerous criminals.

Private sales are legal. Sorry but they can own guns, stop spreading lies.

 

[JimBowie1958]

They have found a tunnel dug by hand at Ponar.

When you are disarmed by the government, digging your way out of death camps is your final state before they kill you, at least this is the result of such gun grabbing fascism in the 20th century.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/29/science/holocaust-ponar-tunnel-lithuania.html?_r=0

A team of archaeologists and mapmakers say they have uncovered a forgotten tunnel that 80 Jews dug largely by hand as they tried to escape from a Nazi extermination site in Lithuania about 70 years ago.

The Lithuanian site, Ponar, holds mass burial pits and graves where up to 100,000 people were killed and their bodies dumped or burned during the Holocaust.

Using radar and radio waves to scan beneath the ground, the researchers found the tunnel, a 100-foot passageway between five and nine feet below the surface, the team announced on Wednesday.

A previous attempt made by a different team in 2004 to find the underground structure had only located its mouth, which was subsequently left unmarked. The new finding traces the tunnel from entrance to exit and provides evidence to support survivor accounts of the harrowing effort to escape the holding pit.

Yes disarmed people all over Denmark are trying to dig out. Same with Japan and Germany and Australia. Such aweful places.

--------------------------------------------------- thing is that these liberals never think ahead . Germany was a nice high minded place with a well developed society BEFORE the 'nazis' took over and then SUDDENLY the 'nazis' controlled life and death Jim Bowie .

Actually they had just lost a world war.

---------------------------------------------- yeah , but that was years earlier . My example still applies . A disarmed people are easy to make mincemeat of Brian . See 'pol pot' in cmbodia or cannibal 'idid amin' in Uganda . [think that it was Uganda]

Not very many years. Losing a world war is kind of a big deal.

The disarmed are going way more years without guns...

You are insulting our military and suggesting they would kill civilians?

Lol, idiot, some of them have ALREADY killed civilians; collateral damage, and most of the terrorists are not in a regular military force hence are civilians.

You're a typical self-proclaimed 'brain'; more full of irony than descriptive.

 

[Rustic]

They have found a tunnel dug by hand at Ponar.

When you are disarmed by the government, digging your way out of death camps is your final state before they kill you, at least this is the result of such gun grabbing fascism in the 20th century.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/29/science/holocaust-ponar-tunnel-lithuania.html?_r=0

A team of archaeologists and mapmakers say they have uncovered a forgotten tunnel that 80 Jews dug largely by hand as they tried to escape from a Nazi extermination site in Lithuania about 70 years ago.

The Lithuanian site, Ponar, holds mass burial pits and graves where up to 100,000 people were killed and their bodies dumped or burned during the Holocaust.

Using radar and radio waves to scan beneath the ground, the researchers found the tunnel, a 100-foot passageway between five and nine feet below the surface, the team announced on Wednesday.

A previous attempt made by a different team in 2004 to find the underground structure had only located its mouth, which was subsequently left unmarked. The new finding traces the tunnel from entrance to exit and provides evidence to support survivor accounts of the harrowing effort to escape the holding pit.

Yes disarmed people all over Denmark are trying to dig out. Same with Japan and Germany and Australia. Such aweful places.

--------------------------------------------------- thing is that these liberals never think ahead . Germany was a nice high minded place with a well developed society BEFORE the 'nazis' took over and then SUDDENLY the 'nazis' controlled life and death Jim Bowie .

Actually they had just lost a world war.

---------------------------------------------- yeah , but that was years earlier . My example still applies . A disarmed people are easy to make mincemeat of Brian . See 'pol pot' in cmbodia or cannibal 'idid amin' in Uganda . [think that it was Uganda]

Not very many years. Losing a world war is kind of a big deal.

The disarmed are going way more years without guns...

You are insulting our military and suggesting they would kill civilians?

Military folk will always back the Second Amendment over the federal government... Dip shit

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"When The Public is Disarmed, This is What They Get Instead"

This fails as a straw man fallacy.

No one is advocating the public be ‘disarmed.’

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

see stalin in the ussr , see idi amin in Uganda . The history of the world is full of legal governments murdering their people Brian .

Let’s start with the first claimed example, that of the Soviet Union. Anyone who claims that an armed group of civilians could have stopped Stalin clearly has never opened a history book. First of all, the only reason the Bolsheviks were able to come to power in the first place was that they had access to guns. Armed civilians wouldn’t have solved the problem; they were the cause of it. Stalin, Lenin and the Bolsheviks had a minority of votes and were only able to seize power in a military coup. Second of all, armed citizens did try to stop them; it was called the Russian Civil War and lasted between 1917 and 1922. So to claim that armed civilians could have stopped the Bolsheviks is to be ignorant of the fact that they tried and failed to do so.

But in your mind it would have been better if they hadnt been armed?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

---------------------------------------------- yeah , but that was years earlier . My example still applies . A disarmed people are easy to make mincemeat of Brian . See 'pol pot' in cmbodia or cannibal 'idid amin' in Uganda . [think that it was Uganda]

Not very many years. Losing a world war is kind of a big deal.

The disarmed are going way more years without guns...

You are insulting our military and suggesting they would kill civilians?

Not in Mexico...twit.....the unarmed people in Northern Mexico are being murdered in their thousands by the police and military who are working for the drug cartels...with rifles that you morons say only the police and military need.....twit.

They can own guns in Mexico. They are not disarmed. Sorry moron.

Wrong asshole......it is in their Constitution but is not allowed by their government...exactly what you morons want here....

They can and do own guns moron. Stop the lies already.

So brainless....do they line up at the one gun store in mexico to buy all these guns? Thats right brainless...there is only one gun store in mexico.
And the odds of you getting a license to carry a firearm are around zero.
So yes,guns are restricted to the point that the average citizen has no chance of owning one legally.....sounds a lot like Barry's plans for America.

 

[Brain357]

see stalin in the ussr , see idi amin in Uganda . The history of the world is full of legal governments murdering their people Brian .

Let’s start with the first claimed example, that of the Soviet Union. Anyone who claims that an armed group of civilians could have stopped Stalin clearly has never opened a history book. First of all, the only reason the Bolsheviks were able to come to power in the first place was that they had access to guns. Armed civilians wouldn’t have solved the problem; they were the cause of it. Stalin, Lenin and the Bolsheviks had a minority of votes and were only able to seize power in a military coup. Second of all, armed citizens did try to stop them; it was called the Russian Civil War and lasted between 1917 and 1922. So to claim that armed civilians could have stopped the Bolsheviks is to be ignorant of the fact that they tried and failed to do so.

But in your mind it would have been better if they hadnt been armed?

It just shows how false these claims about guns stopping tyrants is.

 

[Brain357]

Not very many years. Losing a world war is kind of a big deal.

The disarmed are going way more years without guns...

You are insulting our military and suggesting they would kill civilians?

Not in Mexico...twit.....the unarmed people in Northern Mexico are being murdered in their thousands by the police and military who are working for the drug cartels...with rifles that you morons say only the police and military need.....twit.

They can own guns in Mexico. They are not disarmed. Sorry moron.

Wrong asshole......it is in their Constitution but is not allowed by their government...exactly what you morons want here....

They can and do own guns moron. Stop the lies already.

So brainless....do they line up at the one gun store in mexico to buy all these guns? Thats right brainless...there is only one gun store in mexico.
And the odds of you getting a license to carry a firearm are around zero.
So yes,guns are restricted to the point that the average citizen has no chance of owning one legally.....sounds a lot like Barry's plans for America.

Private sales are legal. If ownership is so restricted why do they own more guns than Israel? Shouldn't Israel be the most concerned?

 

[Brain357]

Yes disarmed people all over Denmark are trying to dig out. Same with Japan and Germany and Australia. Such aweful places.

--------------------------------------------------- thing is that these liberals never think ahead . Germany was a nice high minded place with a well developed society BEFORE the 'nazis' took over and then SUDDENLY the 'nazis' controlled life and death Jim Bowie .

Actually they had just lost a world war.

---------------------------------------------- yeah , but that was years earlier . My example still applies . A disarmed people are easy to make mincemeat of Brian . See 'pol pot' in cmbodia or cannibal 'idid amin' in Uganda . [think that it was Uganda]

Not very many years. Losing a world war is kind of a big deal.

The disarmed are going way more years without guns...

You are insulting our military and suggesting they would kill civilians?

Lol, idiot, some of them have ALREADY killed civilians; collateral damage, and most of the terrorists are not in a regular military force hence are civilians.

You're a typical self-proclaimed 'brain'; more full of irony than descriptive.

Please share examples of the US military killing US civilians.

 

[2aguy]

see stalin in the ussr , see idi amin in Uganda . The history of the world is full of legal governments murdering their people Brian .

Let’s start with the first claimed example, that of the Soviet Union. Anyone who claims that an armed group of civilians could have stopped Stalin clearly has never opened a history book. First of all, the only reason the Bolsheviks were able to come to power in the first place was that they had access to guns. Armed civilians wouldn’t have solved the problem; they were the cause of it. Stalin, Lenin and the Bolsheviks had a minority of votes and were only able to seize power in a military coup. Second of all, armed citizens did try to stop them; it was called the Russian Civil War and lasted between 1917 and 1922. So to claim that armed civilians could have stopped the Bolsheviks is to be ignorant of the fact that they tried and failed to do so.

But in your mind it would have been better if they hadnt been armed?

It just shows how false these claims about guns stopping tyrants is.

Moron....we just told you that only the police and military have the rifles you morons say only the police and miltary should have...and that they use them to murder innocent, unarmed Mexican citizens..........what a troll you are...

 

[2aguy]

--------------------------------------------------- thing is that these liberals never think ahead . Germany was a nice high minded place with a well developed society BEFORE the 'nazis' took over and then SUDDENLY the 'nazis' controlled life and death Jim Bowie .

Actually they had just lost a world war.

---------------------------------------------- yeah , but that was years earlier . My example still applies . A disarmed people are easy to make mincemeat of Brian . See 'pol pot' in cmbodia or cannibal 'idid amin' in Uganda . [think that it was Uganda]

Not very many years. Losing a world war is kind of a big deal.

The disarmed are going way more years without guns...

You are insulting our military and suggesting they would kill civilians?

Lol, idiot, some of them have ALREADY killed civilians; collateral damage, and most of the terrorists are not in a regular military force hence are civilians.

You're a typical self-proclaimed 'brain'; more full of irony than descriptive.

Please share examples of the US military killing US civilians.

Wounded knee, Mai Lai.......and I actually support the U.S. mIlitary.........Waco.....but that was the police..the other group you want to have weapons....

 

[2aguy]

"When The Public is Disarmed, This is What They Get Instead"

This fails as a straw man fallacy.

No one is advocating the public be ‘disarmed.’

And this is your delusion......

 

[Brain357]

see stalin in the ussr , see idi amin in Uganda . The history of the world is full of legal governments murdering their people Brian .

Let’s start with the first claimed example, that of the Soviet Union. Anyone who claims that an armed group of civilians could have stopped Stalin clearly has never opened a history book. First of all, the only reason the Bolsheviks were able to come to power in the first place was that they had access to guns. Armed civilians wouldn’t have solved the problem; they were the cause of it. Stalin, Lenin and the Bolsheviks had a minority of votes and were only able to seize power in a military coup. Second of all, armed citizens did try to stop them; it was called the Russian Civil War and lasted between 1917 and 1922. So to claim that armed civilians could have stopped the Bolsheviks is to be ignorant of the fact that they tried and failed to do so.

But in your mind it would have been better if they hadnt been armed?

It just shows how false these claims about guns stopping tyrants is.

Moron....we just told you that only the police and military have the rifles you morons say only the police and miltary should have...and that they use them to murder innocent, unarmed Mexican citizens..........what a troll you are...

And I proved they can own guns. Stop spreading lies.

 

[Brain357]

Actually they had just lost a world war.

---------------------------------------------- yeah , but that was years earlier . My example still applies . A disarmed people are easy to make mincemeat of Brian . See 'pol pot' in cmbodia or cannibal 'idid amin' in Uganda . [think that it was Uganda]

Not very many years. Losing a world war is kind of a big deal.

The disarmed are going way more years without guns...

You are insulting our military and suggesting they would kill civilians?

Lol, idiot, some of them have ALREADY killed civilians; collateral damage, and most of the terrorists are not in a regular military force hence are civilians.

You're a typical self-proclaimed 'brain'; more full of irony than descriptive.

Please share examples of the US military killing US civilians.

Wounded knee, Mai Lai.......and I actually support the U.S. mIlitary.........Waco.....but that was the police..the other group you want to have weapons....

At wounded knee they were not US citizens. Waco was police and criminals.

 

[Claudette]

They have found a tunnel dug by hand at Ponar.

When you are disarmed by the government, digging your way out of death camps is your final state before they kill you, at least this is the result of such gun grabbing fascism in the 20th century.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/29/science/holocaust-ponar-tunnel-lithuania.html?_r=0

A team of archaeologists and mapmakers say they have uncovered a forgotten tunnel that 80 Jews dug largely by hand as they tried to escape from a Nazi extermination site in Lithuania about 70 years ago.

The Lithuanian site, Ponar, holds mass burial pits and graves where up to 100,000 people were killed and their bodies dumped or burned during the Holocaust.

Using radar and radio waves to scan beneath the ground, the researchers found the tunnel, a 100-foot passageway between five and nine feet below the surface, the team announced on Wednesday.

A previous attempt made by a different team in 2004 to find the underground structure had only located its mouth, which was subsequently left unmarked. The new finding traces the tunnel from entrance to exit and provides evidence to support survivor accounts of the harrowing effort to escape the holding pit.

That's easy.

You get Paris and San Bernardino and of course another holocaust or two. Not to mention murder up the ass. Oh and lets throw in a few rapes and robberies.

 

[Wry Catcher]

They have found a tunnel dug by hand at Ponar.

When you are disarmed by the government, digging your way out of death camps is your final state before they kill you, at least this is the result of such gun grabbing fascism in the 20th century.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/29/science/holocaust-ponar-tunnel-lithuania.html?_r=0

A team of archaeologists and mapmakers say they have uncovered a forgotten tunnel that 80 Jews dug largely by hand as they tried to escape from a Nazi extermination site in Lithuania about 70 years ago.

The Lithuanian site, Ponar, holds mass burial pits and graves where up to 100,000 people were killed and their bodies dumped or burned during the Holocaust.

Using radar and radio waves to scan beneath the ground, the researchers found the tunnel, a 100-foot passageway between five and nine feet below the surface, the team announced on Wednesday.

A previous attempt made by a different team in 2004 to find the underground structure had only located its mouth, which was subsequently left unmarked. The new finding traces the tunnel from entrance to exit and provides evidence to support survivor accounts of the harrowing effort to escape the holding pit.

Who, besides you and others similar to you, are seeking to disarm the public?

You and I are on the opposite sides in the debate, you can find no post I've made which even suggests I support such an extreme action.

Your side wants more guns, and more guns in the hands of more people, and only after a person commits an atrocious act, are they to be relieved of their gun.

 

[Rustic]

More firearms in lawful hands... Less crime

 

[Wry Catcher]

More firearms in lawful hands... Less crime

I'm not certain but you seem to me to be not very bright, obsessed with guns and rowing with one oar in the water. It's no wonder someone like you (I very much hope there are not many like you this side of ISIS) is opposed to background checks.