When what you're doing doesn't work for fifty years, it's time to try something new

So ending welfare will end poverty in the US?

Or will ending welfare end some of the poverty?
 
So ending welfare will end poverty in the US?

Or will ending welfare end some of the poverty?
Has it ended poverty?

Remember the premise of this topic.

But if ending welfare ends some of the poverty, isn't that better?
 
That's our fearless leader said last night about our Cuba embargo.

So, does that mean we end the war on poverty now? Welfare hasn't worked in fifty years.
It's kept the poor from eating the rich. Look at any country that does not feed the hungry, rich people have to live behind walls and travel with heavily armed guards and are still subject to frequent murder and kidnapping. Welfare programs are revolution insurance, why do you not know that?
 
That's our fearless leader said last night about our Cuba embargo.

So, does that mean we end the war on poverty now? Welfare hasn't worked in fifty years.

And how long has the absolutely futile, incredibly wasteful, socially destructive "war on drugs" been going on?
 
That's our fearless leader said last night about our Cuba embargo.

So, does that mean we end the war on poverty now? Welfare hasn't worked in fifty years.
It's kept the poor from eating the rich. Look at any country that does not feed the hungry, rich people have to live behind walls and travel with heavily armed guards and are still subject to frequent murder and kidnapping. Welfare programs are revolution insurance, why do you not know that?
Just asking a question.

Do you want a revolution?
 
That's our fearless leader said last night about our Cuba embargo.

So, does that mean we end the war on poverty now? Welfare hasn't worked in fifty years.

I read the title and was sure it was speaking of Socialism. Which would definitely be a sentiment with which I would agree.
 
That's our fearless leader said last night about our Cuba embargo.

So, does that mean we end the war on poverty now? Welfare hasn't worked in fifty years.

And how long has the absolutely futile, incredibly wasteful, socially destructive "war on drugs" been going on?
So ending welfare will end poverty in the US?

Or will ending welfare end some of the poverty?
Has it ended poverty?

Remember the premise of this topic.

But if ending welfare ends some of the poverty, isn't that better?
Only jobs and wage growth will end poverty, the plutocrats need to step up or shut up.
You agree, then. Welfare will not end poverty.
 
That's our fearless leader said last night about our Cuba embargo.

So, does that mean we end the war on poverty now? Welfare hasn't worked in fifty years.
It's kept the poor from eating the rich. Look at any country that does not feed the hungry, rich people have to live behind walls and travel with heavily armed guards and are still subject to frequent murder and kidnapping. Welfare programs are revolution insurance, why do you not know that?
Just asking a question.

Do you want a revolution?
What kind of revolution and against who?
 
That's our fearless leader said last night about our Cuba embargo.

So, does that mean we end the war on poverty now? Welfare hasn't worked in fifty years.
It's kept the poor from eating the rich. Look at any country that does not feed the hungry, rich people have to live behind walls and travel with heavily armed guards and are still subject to frequent murder and kidnapping. Welfare programs are revolution insurance, why do you not know that?

In that case, we should end welfare.

Look, there's alot of bullshit that happens in this country. There's alot of people who want the government to wipe their ass. There's alot of people who want to suck the cocks of the most powerful and rich individuals in the country. There's alot of people who want to trample on the poor in the name of an ideology, and then there's alot of people who want to use the poor for their own ideological ends. There's a mind boggling amount of corruption as billions of special interest money funds candidates who govern for 4 months and campaign for 20 more. And everyone just takes it. Everyone wants Congress to change, but they don't want to change their own vote. Everyone wants to save Social Security, but nobody wants to pay the extra taxes or take the cut in benefits. Everybody wants, but nobody has the will.

There's alot of bullshit. And the only way it's going to get better is if the people get pissed.
 
That's our fearless leader said last night about our Cuba embargo.

So, does that mean we end the war on poverty now? Welfare hasn't worked in fifty years.

And how long has the absolutely futile, incredibly wasteful, socially destructive "war on drugs" been going on?
So ending welfare will end poverty in the US?

Or will ending welfare end some of the poverty?
Has it ended poverty?

Remember the premise of this topic.

But if ending welfare ends some of the poverty, isn't that better?
Only jobs and wage growth will end poverty, the plutocrats need to step up or shut up.
You agree, then. Welfare will not end poverty.
No it was never meant to end poverty just to mitigate the worst of it. There can be no end of poverty in a capitalist society because there is too much money to be made off of misery.
 
That's our fearless leader said last night about our Cuba embargo.

So, does that mean we end the war on poverty now? Welfare hasn't worked in fifty years.

And how long has the absolutely futile, incredibly wasteful, socially destructive "war on drugs" been going on?
So ending welfare will end poverty in the US?

Or will ending welfare end some of the poverty?
Has it ended poverty?

Remember the premise of this topic.

But if ending welfare ends some of the poverty, isn't that better?
Only jobs and wage growth will end poverty, the plutocrats need to step up or shut up.
You agree, then. Welfare will not end poverty.
No it was never meant to end poverty just to mitigate the worst of it. There can be no end of poverty in a capitalist society because there is too much money to be made off of misery.
Well, guess what. The poverty rate has increased in recent years.
 
That's our fearless leader said last night about our Cuba embargo.

So, does that mean we end the war on poverty now? Welfare hasn't worked in fifty years.
It's kept the poor from eating the rich. Look at any country that does not feed the hungry, rich people have to live behind walls and travel with heavily armed guards and are still subject to frequent murder and kidnapping. Welfare programs are revolution insurance, why do you not know that?

In that case, we should end welfare.

Look, there's alot of bullshit that happens in this country. There's alot of people who want the government to wipe their ass. There's alot of people who want to suck the cocks of the most powerful and rich individuals in the country. There's alot of people who want to trample on the poor in the name of an ideology, and then there's alot of people who want to use the poor for their own ideological ends. There's a mind boggling amount of corruption as billions of special interest money funds candidates who govern for 4 months and campaign for 20 more. And everyone just takes it. Everyone wants Congress to change, but they don't want to change their own vote. Everyone wants to save Social Security, but nobody wants to pay the extra taxes or take the cut in benefits. Everybody wants, but nobody has the will.

There's alot of bullshit. And the only way it's going to get better is if the people get pissed.
They are already pissed, but too many are blaming the victims, this thread is a good example.
 
That's our fearless leader said last night about our Cuba embargo.

So, does that mean we end the war on poverty now? Welfare hasn't worked in fifty years.
It's kept the poor from eating the rich. Look at any country that does not feed the hungry, rich people have to live behind walls and travel with heavily armed guards and are still subject to frequent murder and kidnapping. Welfare programs are revolution insurance, why do you not know that?

In that case, we should end welfare.

Look, there's alot of bullshit that happens in this country. There's alot of people who want the government to wipe their ass. There's alot of people who want to suck the cocks of the most powerful and rich individuals in the country. There's alot of people who want to trample on the poor in the name of an ideology, and then there's alot of people who want to use the poor for their own ideological ends. There's a mind boggling amount of corruption as billions of special interest money funds candidates who govern for 4 months and campaign for 20 more. And everyone just takes it. Everyone wants Congress to change, but they don't want to change their own vote. Everyone wants to save Social Security, but nobody wants to pay the extra taxes or take the cut in benefits. Everybody wants, but nobody has the will.

There's alot of bullshit. And the only way it's going to get better is if the people get pissed.
They are already pissed, but too many are blaming the victims, this thread is a good example.

There's a difference between being whiny, and being pissed. People who are whiny make alot of noise but don't do much. People who are pissed go out and fucking do something. The American people are not pissed. They're just whiny.
 
That's our fearless leader said last night about our Cuba embargo.

So, does that mean we end the war on poverty now? Welfare hasn't worked in fifty years.

And how long has the absolutely futile, incredibly wasteful, socially destructive "war on drugs" been going on?
So ending welfare will end poverty in the US?

Or will ending welfare end some of the poverty?
Has it ended poverty?

Remember the premise of this topic.

But if ending welfare ends some of the poverty, isn't that better?
Only jobs and wage growth will end poverty, the plutocrats need to step up or shut up.
You agree, then. Welfare will not end poverty.
No it was never meant to end poverty just to mitigate the worst of it. There can be no end of poverty in a capitalist society because there is too much money to be made off of misery.
Well, guess what. The poverty rate has increased in recent years.
Yes it's amazing how many people just chose to not work and live off of food stamps isn't it? <sarcasm>
 
That's our fearless leader said last night about our Cuba embargo.

So, does that mean we end the war on poverty now? Welfare hasn't worked in fifty years.
It's kept the poor from eating the rich. Look at any country that does not feed the hungry, rich people have to live behind walls and travel with heavily armed guards and are still subject to frequent murder and kidnapping. Welfare programs are revolution insurance, why do you not know that?

In that case, we should end welfare.

Look, there's alot of bullshit that happens in this country. There's alot of people who want the government to wipe their ass. There's alot of people who want to suck the cocks of the most powerful and rich individuals in the country. There's alot of people who want to trample on the poor in the name of an ideology, and then there's alot of people who want to use the poor for their own ideological ends. There's a mind boggling amount of corruption as billions of special interest money funds candidates who govern for 4 months and campaign for 20 more. And everyone just takes it. Everyone wants Congress to change, but they don't want to change their own vote. Everyone wants to save Social Security, but nobody wants to pay the extra taxes or take the cut in benefits. Everybody wants, but nobody has the will.

There's alot of bullshit. And the only way it's going to get better is if the people get pissed.
They are already pissed, but too many are blaming the victims, this thread is a good example.

There's a difference between being whiny, and being pissed. People who are whiny make alot of noise but don't do much. People who are pissed go out and fucking do something. The American people are not pissed. They're just whiny.
One man's whine is another man's pissed I suppose, last time it was tried all the conservatives banded together and decided that young people should just shut up and take the shit sandwich they inherited from the boomers.
 
That's our fearless leader said last night about our Cuba embargo.

So, does that mean we end the war on poverty now? Welfare hasn't worked in fifty years.

And how long has the absolutely futile, incredibly wasteful, socially destructive "war on drugs" been going on?
Has it ended poverty?

Remember the premise of this topic.

But if ending welfare ends some of the poverty, isn't that better?
Only jobs and wage growth will end poverty, the plutocrats need to step up or shut up.
You agree, then. Welfare will not end poverty.
No it was never meant to end poverty just to mitigate the worst of it. There can be no end of poverty in a capitalist society because there is too much money to be made off of misery.
Well, guess what. The poverty rate has increased in recent years.
Yes it's amazing how many people just chose to not work and live off of food stamps isn't it? <sarcasm>
Another thing about war: it's meant to mitigate the adversary, as the allies did with the Nazis.

"Let's just bomb a couple of their military installations. That oughta suffice." <sarcasm>
 

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