When what you're doing doesn't work for fifty years, it's time to try something new

[Billy000]

That's what our fearless leader said last night about our Cuba embargo.

So, does that mean we end the war on poverty now? Welfare hasn't worked in fifty years.

Just because the "war on poverty" was coined it doesn't mean its a war.

Ending welfare will do nothing to end poverty.

Read, please. That is not the premise.

Has welfare ended poverty? Has it worked?

No of course not. Any idiot who says welfare alone will end poverty is a moron. Who said this exactty? Johnson?

 

[bripat9643]

That's our fearless leader said last night about our Cuba embargo.

So, does that mean we end the war on poverty now? Welfare hasn't worked in fifty years.

It's kept the poor from eating the rich. Look at any country that does not feed the hungry, rich people have to live behind walls and travel with heavily armed guards and are still subject to frequent murder and kidnapping. Welfare programs are revolution insurance, why do you not know that?

It's kept the poor from eating the rich.

Were the poor eating the rich before the war on poverty?

It was headed that way in the 1920s and 30s before various social programs and big infrastructure projects were instituted. The socialist party was a real thing, labor unions were becoming more militant every year and bankers had to travel with armed guards. At least during the depression the poor rightly knew who was to blame. These days the poorest Americans are unmercifully scapegoated for everything from the mortgage crisis to the national debt. I guess it's why the plutocrats foolishly feel safe trying to dismantle the safety nets that indirectly keep their heads attached to their bloated bodies.

Your rhetoric is a tired, anachronistic by-product of the disconnected bloviatings of upper-class liberals in $5K tailor-made five-piece suits whose collective idea of suffering typically implies missing an episode of The Colbert Report or Politically Incorrect in a textbook funded by the Department of Education.

There is nothing fun about being poor. But some people, sadly enough, do in fact choose to be that way. And there is nothing you or I or your burnt-out liberal textbooks can do about it.

Assuming you are right about people choosing to be poor do you actually think it is a high enough percentage to warrant dismantling the welfare state and abandoning people to third world style misery?

The welfare state causes poverty. It lures young girls into thinking there's no downside to getting pregnant without having a husband. Hence, we have millions of kids growing up without fathers. A large percentage of these kids end up in the state pen.

That's the fruit of the welfare state.

 

[rdean]

That's what our fearless leader said last night about our Cuba embargo.

So, does that mean we end the war on poverty now? Welfare hasn't worked in fifty years.

Nothing the Republicans have done in the last 50 years has helped the majority of Americans. It's time to disband that traitorous mess and start over.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

That's our fearless leader said last night about our Cuba embargo.

So, does that mean we end the war on poverty now? Welfare hasn't worked in fifty years.

It's kept the poor from eating the rich. Look at any country that does not feed the hungry, rich people have to live behind walls and travel with heavily armed guards and are still subject to frequent murder and kidnapping. Welfare programs are revolution insurance, why do you not know that?

If that's the case why does obie need a tank of a car and a huge compliment of armed guards around him? Because the welfare programs are working so well?

 

[occupied]

Young people like you are too far removed from how things used to be, sometimes I feel like I'm trying to explain ancient Rome to toddlers.

Ahahaha!

What does me being 'young' have to do with it? Life is never meant to maintain the status quo, my friend. You know nothing of poverty because you have never experienced it. I have. I lived in abject poverty until the state took me from my birth parents. Try lecturing someone else, smartass.

You are obviously far too comfortable to know a damned thing about poverty, quit repeating things you have heard people say but cannot adequately explain.

No. I will not. Try learning what poverty is before you lecture anyone else about it. Spare me your indignance.

For someone who is supposed to know poverty you are remarkably naive in your statements on the subject. To have experienced it and still be so hateful and misinformed about poverty makes you seem even more of a dumbass. I was willing to excuse your bad attitude due to a sheltered and coddled life but to have been there and be as blind to human misery as you are is inexcusable.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Obama wants to reward castro for not relenting on torture and oppression.
I expect a pardon for Charles Manson is looming.

 

[TemplarKormac]

For someone who is supposed to know poverty you are remarkably naive in your statements on the subject. To have experienced it and still be so hateful and misinformed about poverty makes you seem even more of a dumbass.

Forgive me, but is there a point to your childishness? How am I hateful? Goodness gracious, you are like a helpless child calling me mean for not letting you get your way. I never once said I hate people who live in poverty. I actually can sympathize. Understand?

I was willing to excuse your bad attitude due to a sheltered and coddled life but to have been there and be as blind to human misery as you are is inexcusable.

Oy vey.

I don't need your approval or disapproval for my attitude. You can shove that scepter up your backside, your majesty.

I'm not blind to human misery, I know misery can be a motivator, to get someone to engineer joy in their life. You on the other hand use your righteous indignance to cause misery. Perhaps you can pass out your address, give all the homeless people somewhere to stay, clothes to wear, and food to eat. You speak of poverty without actually knowing how debilitating it is. You have a warm home, an internet connection, warm food and clothing, so you have no clue at all. None.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

So ending welfare will end poverty in the US?

Or will ending welfare end some of the poverty?

Has it ended poverty?

Remember the premise of this topic.

But if ending welfare ends some of the poverty, isn't that better?

Only jobs and wage growth will end poverty, the plutocrats need to step up or shut up.

Actually, wage growth is merely inflation of the cost of labor, which causes the value of the currency which is exchanged for labor to decrease... so it solves nothing.

What solves poverty is skilled labor consistently producing high quality products and services... exchanged for fair value. Never fails.

 

[MikeK]

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[bendog]

That's what our fearless leader said last night about our Cuba embargo.

So, does that mean we end the war on poverty now? Welfare hasn't worked in fifty years.

Whatchu talkin' about Willard? Welfare's worked very well for Obama.

 

[zeke]

It's kept the poor from eating the rich. Look at any country that does not feed the hungry, rich people have to live behind walls and travel with heavily armed guards and are still subject to frequent murder and kidnapping. Welfare programs are revolution insurance, why do you not know that?

Maybe give out daily cannabis rations to make sure no one gets off the couch? Ever seen a stoner revolt. Unless the Oreos are gone. That can be ugly. But no one gets hurt except the Gummy Bears.

 

[nodoginnafight]

So ending welfare will end poverty in the US?

Or will ending welfare end some of the poverty?

Has it ended poverty?

Remember the premise of this topic.

But if ending welfare ends some of the poverty, isn't that better?

The war on poverty has ended poverty for a heck of a lot of people.

We live in as wealthy and affluent and influential society as this planet has ever seen. Our poor people have a higher standard of living than most of the "middle class" in half the countries on this planet.

Are we providing too much from our tax dollars? Yeah, I think so.
But to try to argue that the war on poverty has not vastly improved the standard of living for our nation's poor is just blind, ignorant or both.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The war on poverty has been a success. We'd be far worse off without it.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Poverty has had a very powerful ally during all those years: republican and conservative politicians who opposed and fought to undermine programs and policies that sought to end poverty – which began in earnest during the Reagan years.

 

[Roadrunner]

That's our fearless leader said last night about our Cuba embargo.

So, does that mean we end the war on poverty now? Welfare hasn't worked in fifty years.

It's kept the poor from eating the rich. Look at any country that does not feed the hungry, rich people have to live behind walls and travel with heavily armed guards and are still subject to frequent murder and kidnapping. Welfare programs are revolution insurance, why do you not know that?

Thing is, the poor want more and more.

Look how fat the poor are.

Are they satisfied?

Hell no, only more numerous and better armed.

 

[shart_attack]

The war on poverty has been a success. We'd be far worse off without it.

Nope.

Not if you were still posting here, we wouldn't.