Where are the jobs, Mr. President?

[bedowin62]

Name a jobs bill the right didn't filibuster. Then carry on..........

Until then, this is not an actual thread..

'jobs bills" by Dems dont create jobs idiot

if they did then the Stimulus jobs would still exist; and you wouldnt be asking Repubs where are jobs that you already claim to have created..
and obamacare was promoted with the idiot president and pelosi braggin how many jobs it would create. now the same morons are actually trying to say how cool it is to be "free" (unemployed) because of obamacare

and where are the 3 MILLION "green" jobs obama promised?
he DID get the money; which DISAPPEARED as soon as his crony supporters got it; and no jobs ever came

idiots and hypocrites

 

[edthecynic]

Oh yeah? Really RW? Then why is unemployment higher under Obama than it ever was under Bush?

The fact that you believe more jobs have been created under Obama is comical. When Bush was in office, unemployment was already low so there weren't that many jobs that could be created. When Obama stepped in and blew up the U.S. (and world) economy costing 13 million jobs, it's not really that impressive if 4 million are "created". He still has the biggest net loss in U.S. history (sans the great depression - which not coincidentally was overseen by another ignorant Dumbocrat).

Bush was given an unemployment rate of 4.2% and left office at 8.1%

Obama has lowered his rate from 8.1% to 6.7%

Any other questions?

Obama numbers are so fudged. How many people have left the work force all together who is not counted in the unemployment rate. Under Obama there are more people who have given up looking for employment.. But think what you want Labor force participation is at lowest point since 1978, says Texas Sen. Ted Cruz | PolitiFact

Less than the number Bush used to "fudge" his UE rate with. 10 million left the labor force during the Bush Regime WITHOUT Boomers retiring!

From your link:

Still, many economists attribute at least a portion of the drop to an unsurprising reason: the retirement of baby boomers, which does not exactly qualify as an American horror story.


But we’ll note at least part of the trend has been years in the making and appears strongly tied to the inevitable aging of the baby boomer population. In other words, it’s not all Obama’s fault, and it’s not going to change the minute he leaves office.

 

[Harry Dresden]

The only thing pubs will allow is phony debt crises that cut growth 1 per cent each time, MORONS.

you forgot "pubdupes" Frankie....

Never...see MORONS. THE story of our time, Pub brainwashing...a disgrace...read the book.

i read the book titled "Those Brainwashed In Our Time"......your name was there Frankie....

 

[Wry Catcher]

What a drama queen you are, and also wrong.

So where are the jobs then PMH? The fact that you can't answer that question and instead have to attack the messenger says it all....

they are here in California.....


Map Title: Unemployment rates by county, not seasonally adjusted
Map Type: California county Map
Month/Year: December/2013

County December
2013
Alameda County 6.3
Alpine County 8.4
Amador County 9.0
Butte County 9.1
Calaveras County 9.4
Colusa County 20.5
Contra Costa County 6.4
Del Norte County 10.7
El Dorado County 7.2
Fresno County 12.5
Glenn County 11.3
Humboldt County 7.5
Imperial County 22.5
Inyo County 7.1
Kern County 10.7
Kings County 12.8
Lake County 12.1
Lassen County 10.1
Los Angeles County 8.8
Madera County 10.7
Marin County 4.2
Mariposa County 8.9
Mendocino County 7.4
Merced County 14.2
Modoc County 10.6
Mono County 7.2
Monterey County 11.0
Napa County 5.9
Nevada County 6.7
Orange County 5.2
Placer County 6.5
Plumas County 11.8
Riverside County 9.1
Sacramento County 7.7
San Benito County 10.4
San Bernardino County 8.7
San Diego County 6.4
San Francisco County 4.8
San Joaquin County 12.1
San Luis Obispo County 5.6
San Mateo County 4.6
Santa Barbara County 6.2
Santa Clara County 5.7
Santa Cruz County 9.2
Shasta County 9.8
Sierra County 10.8
Siskiyou County 12.5
Solano County 7.3
Sonoma County 5.7
Stanislaus County 12.2
Sutter County 14.5
Tehama County 10.4
Trinity County 11.1
Tulare County 13.4
Tuolumne County 8.5
Ventura County 6.9
Yolo County 9.5
Yuba County 12.2

Without context these numbers mean little. Most (all) of the very rural counties have high unemployment and very low populations. Many with high unemployment include large areas of wilderness and farming, regions which did not receive a large influx of money from The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.

Notice the rate of the nine Bay Area Counties (SF, San Mateo, Marin, Napa, Sonoma, Solano, Contra Costa, Alameda and Santa Clara) all but Solano are below the national average. Building is on going in much of the Bay Area as well as road and bridge projects, BART is expanding into San Jose, and Silicon Valley and SOMA/China Basin (near AT&T Park) is booming.

 

[bedowin62]

what is the right "context" for PROGRESSIVE FAILURE??

OH i forgot; it's somebody elses fault

 

[Wry Catcher]

what is the right "context" for PROGRESSIVE FAILURE??

OH i forgot; it's somebody elses fault

Damn, you're really stupid. Why do you post? Do you need attention or actually believe you have something intelligent to offer (which would make you ridiculous as well as stupid).

 

[Wry Catcher]

actually, yes he does - in a roundabout way. It is the job of the president to insure that the private sector can operate and grow within a capitalist system. Obama has done everything he can to insure the death of the private sector.

bullshit: If you have proof post it or be know as a liar!

we have endured 5 years of obama and during that time - there has never been job growth of a substantial nature. Corporations are hoarding their cash like misers with the intent of waiting this fool out - and hoping that the next president allows job growth.

this may be true, but why? What would/could a romney or palin do to grow jobs?

obama is constantly talking about raising the "minimum wage" and "overtime pay" but to what ends? To stifle job growth; to make damn sure that employers do no more hiring.

to help the working men and women of our country! That's why!

this president is the most anti-job president in the history of the united states. Period. End of story.

bullshit, that comment is probative evidence you're ignorant.

Yeah, this economy is just rolling along nicely, isn't it dickhead. That's all the "proof" that I need you bootlicker.

My God! Folks like you will need extensive therapy after the 2014 elections.....

"dickhead", "bootlicker". I see you've got the vulgar ad hominem act down, now try to provide something of substance, or continue to prove my comment that you're full of shit and an ignoramus is spot on.

 

[Wry Catcher]

In re Post 104

Without context these numbers mean little. Most (all) of the very rural counties have high unemployment and very low populations. Many with high unemployment include large areas of wilderness and farming, regions which did not receive a large influx of money from The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.

Notice the rate of the nine Bay Area Counties (SF, San Mateo, Marin, Napa, Sonoma, Solano, Contra Costa, Alameda and Santa Clara) all but Solano are below the national average. Building is on going in much of the Bay Area as well as road and bridge projects, BART is expanding into San Jose, and Silicon Valley and SOMA/China Basin (near AT&T Park) is booming.

 

[Harry Dresden]

So where are the jobs then PMH? The fact that you can't answer that question and instead have to attack the messenger says it all....

they are here in California.....


Map Title: Unemployment rates by county, not seasonally adjusted
Map Type: California county Map
Month/Year: December/2013

County December
2013
Alameda County 6.3
Alpine County 8.4
Amador County 9.0
Butte County 9.1
Calaveras County 9.4
Colusa County 20.5
Contra Costa County 6.4
Del Norte County 10.7
El Dorado County 7.2
Fresno County 12.5
Glenn County 11.3
Humboldt County 7.5
Imperial County 22.5
Inyo County 7.1
Kern County 10.7
Kings County 12.8
Lake County 12.1
Lassen County 10.1
Los Angeles County 8.8
Madera County 10.7
Marin County 4.2
Mariposa County 8.9
Mendocino County 7.4
Merced County 14.2
Modoc County 10.6
Mono County 7.2
Monterey County 11.0
Napa County 5.9
Nevada County 6.7
Orange County 5.2
Placer County 6.5
Plumas County 11.8
Riverside County 9.1
Sacramento County 7.7
San Benito County 10.4
San Bernardino County 8.7
San Diego County 6.4
San Francisco County 4.8
San Joaquin County 12.1
San Luis Obispo County 5.6
San Mateo County 4.6
Santa Barbara County 6.2
Santa Clara County 5.7
Santa Cruz County 9.2
Shasta County 9.8
Sierra County 10.8
Siskiyou County 12.5
Solano County 7.3
Sonoma County 5.7
Stanislaus County 12.2
Sutter County 14.5
Tehama County 10.4
Trinity County 11.1
Tulare County 13.4
Tuolumne County 8.5
Ventura County 6.9
Yolo County 9.5
Yuba County 12.2

Without context these numbers mean little. Most (all) of the very rural counties have high unemployment and very low populations. Many with high unemployment include large areas of wilderness and farming, regions which did not receive a large influx of money from The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.

Notice the rate of the nine Bay Area Counties (SF, San Mateo, Marin, Napa, Sonoma, Solano, Contra Costa, Alameda and Santa Clara) all but Solano are below the national average. Building is on going in much of the Bay Area as well as road and bridge projects, BART is expanding into San Jose, and Silicon Valley and SOMA/China Basin (near AT&T Park) is booming.

so than Ca looks good because all the richer Counties got all the money and are carrying the State.....so those 30 Counties that are way above the national and State Avg,are they not part of this State?.....lots of our farmers are not farming Wry.....they feed the Country.....and yea were i live in OC there is construction going on all over out here too....but then there are a lot of wealthy people here.....so basically....the Rich get it all and the poorer get the shaft...again....

 

[Harry Dresden]

In re Post 104

Without context these numbers mean little. Most (all) of the very rural counties have high unemployment and very low populations. Many with high unemployment include large areas of wilderness and farming, regions which did not receive a large influx of money from The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.

Notice the rate of the nine Bay Area Counties (SF, San Mateo, Marin, Napa, Sonoma, Solano, Contra Costa, Alameda and Santa Clara) all but Solano are below the national average. Building is on going in much of the Bay Area as well as road and bridge projects, BART is expanding into San Jose, and Silicon Valley and SOMA/China Basin (near AT&T Park) is booming.

if you mean by context Wry my source.....i got it from here....

Map: LA

you will just have to find the state on the state lists

 

[BDBoop]

Why ask him? Ask the Republicans who can't muster anything other than an ACA repeal vote to save their lives.

While you're at it, ask them why they keep doing everything they can to make sure the rich are provided for and protected.

 

[DiamondDave]

Bush was given an unemployment rate of 4.2% and left office at 8.1%

Obama has lowered his rate from 8.1% to 6.7%

Any other questions?

By not counting more and more workers.. by giving more and more of those not working government disability... the labor force participation rate is the lowest in 40+ years... the jobs that are allegedly 'gained' are less than the ones leaving the workforce... sounds like a loss to me and any other person who thinks logically

The labor participation rate will continue to decline over the next two decades

yet jobs lost to retirement outnumber those created or replacing them... as stated, negative employment... with more vacating jobs and less in the working age, employment numbers should be MUCH better.. it is not because of the governmental policies and things such as allowing more and more people to claim disability who are not disabled

 

[DiamondDave]

Despite getting 100% of his policies implemented (whether by a Nancy Pelosi Congress or by unconstitutionally bypassing Congress with his "pen") over 5 years, all we have to show for Obama's marxist policies is record unemployment.

Where are the jobs, Mr. President? Progressive policies have destroyed America

Government Sector growing by leaps and bounds...THAT is where the jobs are...WE are being bilked as the private sector is being willfully destroyed by the District of Criminals. I wonder what the jobless rate IS in the District Of Criminals?

You really are one dumb fuck, aren't you?

Government/public sector jobs WENT UP during the REAGAN/BUSH years.

And DOWN during the OBAMA years.

No they did not.. state and local governmental jobs went down.. federal increased.. that is under Obama control

 

[Meister]

Why did the Teabagger Party organize in 2009 instead of when Bush was spying on Americans and killing and torturing and wasting trillions of taxpayers' dollars? Why was every Teabagger silent until a black man was in the White House?

Why is that?

Bush is one of the reasons the Tea Party WAS organized. Many conservatives, including myself, were sickened by the huge, Bush power grab and vast expansion of government. Bush was a huge spender (though his spending doesn't even come close to the amount Obama has spent) and he did absolutely nothing to truly seal our southern border. He's a globalist first and a citizen of the American "region" second.

BUSH'S MASSIVE GOVERNMENT POWER GRAB HAPPENED IN LATE 2001. When was the USAPATRIOT Act signed? No one in Congress read it. It went straight through with FULL REPUBLICAN SUPPORT. The Teabagger Party took EIGHT YEARS to become fed up with Bush's reckless spending and TORTURE? Are you trying to be serious?

Face it. The Teabagger Party is the stupid, racist, right-wing fringe of the right-wing Republican Party, and it was created by the Republican Party to stifle the presidency of Barack Obama, a black Democrat who Republicans fear because Bush made such a god-damned mess of everything.

KNB you're an idiot. You don't have good arguments so you just keep moving the goal posts. Then it comes down that you need to bring out the race card when you have nothing else. It's not the color of Obama's skin because he is half white and half black, it DOES come down to his liberal policies such as Cap and Trade, Obummercare, immigration, war on women, war on minorities, etc.
You wingnut liberals have morphed what racism is and should be ashamed for doing it.

 

[Meister]

Why ask him? Ask the Republicans who can't muster anything other than an ACA repeal vote to save their lives.

While you're at it, ask them why they keep doing everything they can to make sure the rich are provided for and protected.

Things that do get mustered other than the repeal bills end up in the same place as all the bills do.....on the idiot reid's shelve never to see the light of day. Then you fall into Obama's trance that somehow if the rich weren't so rich that you would have more money. That is just a foolish naive concept.

 

[P@triot]

Name a jobs bill the right didn't filibuster. Then carry on..........

Until then, this is not an actual thread..

Obama has received all of the bills he requested to "fix" the economy. 100% of them.

He asked for the first stimulus spending, he got:

The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (2009).

When that failed, he asked for a second round of stimulus and got:

The Omnibus Trade Act (2010)

He asked for finance reform, he got:

The Dodd-Frank WallStreet Reform and Consumer Protection Act (2011)
The Credit Card Accountability Responsibility and Disclosure Act (2011)
The Homebuyer Assistance and Improvement Act (2011)
And a bunch more that I don't even have time to add.

He asked for Obamacare, and got:

The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (2010). .

Every part of his "plan" has been passed and implemented and has been a spectacular failure. He promised if we passed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (2009) that unemployment would NOT reach 8%. Instead, it climbed to 10% after passing it and has never been below 8%.

In the three years since Obamacare passed, healthcare costs have gone UP despite his promises that it would make costs go down.

We used to all have free checking, but since passing the The Dodd-Frank WallStreet Reform and Consumer Protection Act (2011), banks are now charging yearly fees for checking accounts. Of course, the sad irony of this is that Obama said he was helping "the little guy". Well, the wealthy can afford checking fees. It's the "little guy" living paycheck to paycheck that can't afford those extra fees. Obama has done nothing but crush the middle and lower class with awful marxist economic policies.

Alpha Natural Resources Closing 8 Coal Mines, Cutting 1,200 Jobs
(Killing jobs with his policies)

BREAKING: Libyan Officials Claim US Was Warned 3 DAYS BEFORE Deadly Benghazi Consulate Attack
(Killing American's)

CRS report: number of able-bodied adults on food stamps doubled after Obama suspended work requirement
(Allowing able-bodied people to live off of hard working American tax payers)

8,786,049: Yet Another Record for Americans Collecting Disability
(Fraud & Corruption in the administration - there is no way 18,108 Americans suddenly became disabled in ONE month)

So now that I've proven you are either completely ignorant of reality or a liar, what do you have [MENTION=47936]AntiParty[/MENTION]?

 

[P@triot]

Ask the coal and oil industry what? How Obama has restrained their record profits?

Why didn't the Teabagger Party ever protest Bush for bailouts, domestic spying, deficit spending, increasing the debt, etc. etc. etc.? Why was it only when a black Democrat was elected that the Teabagger Party decided that "enough is enough"?

Why is that?

Why do you go off topic with our original discussion? Why is that?

But to answer you about the tea party....they didn't organize until 2009. true story

Why did the Teabagger Party organize in 2009 instead of when Bush was spying on Americans and killing and torturing and wasting trillions of taxpayers' dollars? Why was every Teabagger silent until a black man was in the White House?

Why is that?

Because Bush wasn't taxing them to death. TEA stands for Taxed Enough Already.

You continue to illustrate your lack of knowledge

 

[P@triot]

Despite getting 100% of his policies implemented (whether by a Nancy Pelosi Congress or by unconstitutionally bypassing Congress with his "pen") over 5 years, all we have to show for Obama's marxist policies is record unemployment.

Where are the jobs, Mr. President? Progressive policies have destroyed America

Where are the jobs? That's a good question. It'd be a better question if it wasn't from a far right opinion resource which goes on the attack constantly? When people use the HuffPost, does your stomach turn?
Anyway, I thought we had a group known as the jobs creators and the government should just get smaller anyways, doggone it!

Considering I've actually posted links to the Huffington Post myself, I can honestly say no - it does not "turn my stomach" when people cite them.

Any other questions?

 

[P@triot]

Bush was given an unemployment rate of 4.2% and left office at 8.1%

Obama has lowered his rate from 8.1% to 6.7%

Any other questions?

Bwahahahahahah!!!!

The day Bush left office unemployment was at 7.8%. It has never been below 8% during the Obama regime of terror (lowering it because people have given up and permanently left the job market because Obama has promised them permanent unemployment does not count chief. Any other lies you want to attempt??? Please note all of the accurate statistics below which outline where they were the day Obama was inaugurated:

But you DID count it for Bush's UE rate!!!!! 10 million dropped out of the labor force during the Bush Regime that YOU did not count as unemployed, and they were not Boomers retiring like under Obama.

Ed, where do you get that I "did" anything? Bush is your guy. Not ours. Bush was a hard core liberal who spent recklessly, grew government, bailed out the private sector, and pissed on the U.S. Constitution. In other words, step-by-step the exact same radical left-wing policies that Obama has given us (Obama just gives it to us in larger doses since he's in a rush to collapse America before the end of his final term).

I've slammed Bush relentlessly for being the liberal he is and you're inability to see he is the ultimate liberal god who you would worship had he had a little "d" next to his name is proof of what an absolutely blind partisan hack you are.

 

[edthecynic]

Government Sector growing by leaps and bounds...THAT is where the jobs are...WE are being bilked as the private sector is being willfully destroyed by the District of Criminals. I wonder what the jobless rate IS in the District Of Criminals?

You really are one dumb fuck, aren't you?

Government/public sector jobs WENT UP during the REAGAN/BUSH years.

And DOWN during the OBAMA years.

No they did not.. state and local governmental jobs went down.. federal increased.. that is under Obama control

I nailed you on this lie in another thread a while ago, and all you have done is slink off and repeat the lie here.

As I pointed out to you there were 2,795,000 fed employees when Obama took office and 2,717,000 now. You then backtracked from your lie by saying it was not a big reduction. The fact remains that a reduction is not an "increase" and claiming fed workers increased is a lie.