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I could dig up all kinds of articles about more democrat candidates who's run for and some who's won special congressional races. You can look at the rhetoric coming from many candidates and the outlets that support them.I guess we disagree with what is considered "hard left." In my book, there's not much harder left than a warm embrace of socialism. So while you're right that the democratic party establishment screwed Bernie to push Hillary into the candidacy, they're reaction to losing has been "oh i guess we weren't left enough."The party is and has been moving further left, as evidenced exactly by Bernie. He's an "independent" because his positions were always considered too far to the left for the democrat party. Now, he and his ideas are pretty mainstream democrat, and if you ask just about anyone who voted democrat if he or Hillary was a better candidate, they'd say Bernie. Tom Perez and Keith Ellison as leaders of the DNC are pretty hard left, Ellison moreso.I think they're pretty spot-on with how Ocasio-Cortez is the direction that the democrats are going. She may not be a de-facto leader but she is in terms of her policies and her thought process. Just look at how popular Bernie was/is.
The rest is obvious. It's The Daily Wire. It's a conservative news source. I'm a Ben Shapiro fan but his site is needlessly biased in the way you pointed out.
Bernie's never been a Democrat, so as I said that all remains to be seen. His campaign did show that there are definitely factions of more and less conservative, but where the giant squid of the party goes with that is future unknown.
I'm really not familiar with the Daily Wire or Ben Shapiro. I just judged it on the content I saw.
Any people who subscribe to an even slightly traditional view of what the parties are have been left behind. Republicans have lined up behind Trump(ism) cause he actually won while democrats have moved rather hard left in the last couple of years but it was happening under Obama as well. That's just reality. I'd like to see those that have been cast out by their respective parties recognize the virtue of promoting everyone's individual rights and get behind the Libertarian party.
Insofar as one exists....
Bernie doesn't "evidence" anything. To the degree he finds support among Democrats, it suggests that that contingent would like it to move that way, but you'll also recall that the machine of that part rejected that movement and rigged its selection to favor the old established center-right candidate, so where some sector of its members wish the party to move, and where it actually does move, are two different things, at least thus far.
As anyone who's familiar with world politics knows, we don't have a 'hard left' party. We do, but not any influential ones, just as we don't effectively have a Libertarian party. To the extent these assessments can be generalized we have an entrenched Duopoly that sits with one foot on the right and the other foot on the center-right, and an Electrical College that ensures it stays that way and nobody else gets in. That pretty much guarantees variant swings to either side are kept to a minimum and we get and endless string of mediocrity.
Bernie doesn't fit either foot of that two-poled pillar, which is why he's not affiliated with either, so he took the closest one and tried to drag it out to the side. While his supporters were all for it, the party establishment wasn't, so it didn't happen.
Matter of fact the same thing happened to the Republican Party in 1912, a year with many intriguing parallels.
By the way there's no such thing as a "democrat party". There is however a Democratic Party. The idea that it's 'hard left' is laughable. If you're standing in Philadelphia you can say that Pittsburgh is to your west. You cannot however declare Pittsburgh is "THE West" since there's so much more west beyond it.
The Bernie and Hillary saga was only less than two years ago, so that 'reaction' hasn't even played out yet. Far as I know we have no idea who they'll be running next round, and I doubt they do either.
The DNC is now run by people who are more embracing of socialism and more and more open socialists are winning nominations and congressional seats under the blue banner. More and more rhetoric coming from democrats and socialists are aligning quite neatly. To claim that the democratic party is center-right is a flat wrong. A good example is how there's not a single national democrat who's pro-life anymore: they've all been purged from the party. That's just one of many examples.
How exactly did Alexandra Ocasio-Cortéz --- who by my math is still one (1) person --- get transmogrified into the plural? How indeed did a wannabe candidate who hasn't even been in an election yet get morphed into the entire "the left"? Which is where I started on this fallacious bullshit title....
Seems to me when you have to blow up your points like some kind of inner tube ready for a stream, you didn't have much of a point to start with. We've got a single candidate pluralized and expanded into the entire "the left". We've got projections of who a political party nominated in the future. That sort of bloated hyperexaggeration is not exactly solid ground to build on.
Hell, look at what Schumer and Hillary said about illegal immigration not too long ago. They both said that we can't have people coming here illegally. That the american people need to know we're focused on them and not "illegal aliens." And that we shouldn't normalize illegal immigration by calling them "undocumented workers", we should call them what they are: illegal aliens. I'm paraphrasing here but it's certainly out there. Now: they're for a mostly open border policy, wouldn't dare call someone an illegal alien and wouldn't even fund border security in exchange for a DACA renewal when the opportunity arose. I mentioned how democrats have completely purged all their anti-abortion members.