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statistically insignificant again. again you're arguing a losing point.Not nearly as dramatically.And then it plunged.and it didn't lower their murder rate.Our homicide rate is three times higher than Canada, and nearly five times higher than Australia.
Australia had a mandatory gun confiscation back in the 90s.
In fact their murder rate went up every year between 1996 and 2001
2001! You see? Your propagandists very carefully framed the picture.
2001. Why do you think the people lying to you don't tell you what's happened to Australia's homicide rate since then?
Hmmmm?
So did our murder rate
Not even close.
In fact our murder rate has been nearly flat for the past 15 years.
Try again.
1970 was the beginning of the conceal and carry laws, and the murder rate went down, thanks for showing us we were correct.Our murder rate is right about where it was in 2000.
stop preaching at us. you're no good at it.Lying only works for so long, folks.
You are being lied to.
The truth will out, and then we will lose our liberties because you could not be honest.
No, the 1970s is when the percentage of Americans who own guns began to drop significantly.1970 was the beginning of the conceal and carry laws, and the murder rate went down, thanks for showing us we were correct.Our murder rate is right about where it was in 2000.
I'm just burying you with facts.stop preaching at us. you're no good at it.Lying only works for so long, folks.
You are being lied to.
The truth will out, and then we will lose our liberties because you could not be honest.
it's also the start of conceal and carry fool. look it up again. wow, don't you know how to do anything correctly?No, the 1970s is when the percentage of Americans who own guns began to drop significantly.1970 was the beginning of the conceal and carry laws, and the murder rate went down, thanks for showing us we were correct.Our murder rate is right about where it was in 2000.
facts that point to my argument being correct, thanks.I'm just burying you with facts.stop preaching at us. you're no good at it.Lying only works for so long, folks.
You are being lied to.
The truth will out, and then we will lose our liberties because you could not be honest.
Sorry about that!
A simple question.
Yesterday 26 people were shot and killed, some of them kids.
Life is going down the drain for lots of people in the US due to guns.
Which would you prefer, to keep your guns or to keep your life?
here more education for ya:No, the 1970s is when the percentage of Americans who own guns began to drop significantly.1970 was the beginning of the conceal and carry laws, and the murder rate went down, thanks for showing us we were correct.Our murder rate is right about where it was in 2000.
Not nearly as dramatically.And then it plunged.and it didn't lower their murder rate.Our homicide rate is three times higher than Canada, and nearly five times higher than Australia.
Australia had a mandatory gun confiscation back in the 90s.
In fact their murder rate went up every year between 1996 and 2001
2001! You see? Your propagandists very carefully framed the picture.
2001. Why do you think the people lying to you don't tell you what's happened to Australia's homicide rate since then?
Hmmmm?
So did our murder rate
Not even close.
In fact our murder rate has been nearly flat for the past 15 years.
Try again.
Our murder rate also went down after the high in the 90'sWhy do you think the people lying to you don't mention what happend after the 2001 spike?The gap between US and Australian gun deaths has widened significantly since the Australian gun grab:
What about the murder rate?
Oh yeah that went up between 1996 and 2001 didn't it?
I thought guns laws lowered the murder rate.
It should have been a GIANT clue they don't tell you what's been happening FOR THE PAST 16 YEARS.
It is ALSO a fact that since Great Britain banned firearms their murder rate with firearms went UP and that their crime with firearms went UP. Further it is a fact that Great Britain has a MUCH higher incident of violent attacks with out firearms then any other European and USA place. Further it is a FACT that terrorists get firearms in Europe when ever they want to include fully automatic weapons even though they are completely banned.I have provided the homicide rate figures for Great Britain, France, and other advanced nations.No they don't in fact Britain is seeing an INCREASE and has been for several years. And they are an ISLAND with complete control over what entersNope. It has never been debunked.and you know that is factually incorrect. been debunked in here again and again. but that is who you are, posting lies.Those advanced nations which have banned guns have a much lower homicide rate than we do.Please tell me how having me give up or forcing me to give up my firearms will prevent anyone from being killed
As a general rule, those states with laxer gun laws have higher homicide rates.
We have to be honest and admit that banning guns would result in a lower homicide rate. But that would require the repeal of the Second Amendment.
So it really is a choice between a higher homicide rate and liberty. It is completely dishonest to deny this.
It is a fact that advanced countries which give up their guns see a drop in the homicide rate in the long term.
It is also a fact that the states which have the loosest gun laws have the highest homicide rates.
As for France it is totally illegal to own possess or use a weapon yet terrorists get fully automatic rifles and hand guns with NO problem and commit murder there. And when they dont feel like getting a rifle? They just rent a truck.
They don't even come close the US homicide rate.
Stop ASSUMING. Stop stating emotionally laden ANECDOTES, and look at the FACTS.
It is a FACT our homicide rate is 530% higher than Great Britain.
It is a FACT our homicide rate is 300% higher than France.
as I said, statistically insignificant.Not nearly as dramatically.And then it plunged.and it didn't lower their murder rate.Our homicide rate is three times higher than Canada, and nearly five times higher than Australia.
Australia had a mandatory gun confiscation back in the 90s.
In fact their murder rate went up every year between 1996 and 2001
2001! You see? Your propagandists very carefully framed the picture.
2001. Why do you think the people lying to you don't tell you what's happened to Australia's homicide rate since then?
Hmmmm?
So did our murder rate
Not even close.
In fact our murder rate has been nearly flat for the past 15 years.
Try again.
There is no real statistcal difference
2000 Australia 1.8 per 100000 2009 1.3 per 100000
2000 US 5.5 per 100000 2009 5per 100000
BOTH countries murder rate dropped by .5 per 100000 over the same time period
Explain that
My god. I'm dealing with complete innumerates.as I said, statistically insignificant.Not nearly as dramatically.And then it plunged.and it didn't lower their murder rate.
In fact their murder rate went up every year between 1996 and 2001
2001! You see? Your propagandists very carefully framed the picture.
2001. Why do you think the people lying to you don't tell you what's happened to Australia's homicide rate since then?
Hmmmm?
So did our murder rate
Not even close.
In fact our murder rate has been nearly flat for the past 15 years.
Try again.
There is no real statistcal difference
2000 Australia 1.8 per 100000 2009 1.3 per 100000
2000 US 5.5 per 100000 2009 5per 100000
BOTH countries murder rate dropped by .5 per 100000 over the same time period
Explain that
You are the idiot your 'facts" do not support your claims.My god. I'm dealing with complete innumerates.as I said, statistically insignificant.Not nearly as dramatically.And then it plunged.
2001! You see? Your propagandists very carefully framed the picture.
2001. Why do you think the people lying to you don't tell you what's happened to Australia's homicide rate since then?
Hmmmm?
So did our murder rate
Not even close.
In fact our murder rate has been nearly flat for the past 15 years.
Try again.
There is no real statistcal difference
2000 Australia 1.8 per 100000 2009 1.3 per 100000
2000 US 5.5 per 100000 2009 5per 100000
BOTH countries murder rate dropped by .5 per 100000 over the same time period
Explain that
My god. I'm dealing with complete innumerates.as I said, statistically insignificant.Not nearly as dramatically.And then it plunged.
2001! You see? Your propagandists very carefully framed the picture.
2001. Why do you think the people lying to you don't tell you what's happened to Australia's homicide rate since then?
Hmmmm?
So did our murder rate
Not even close.
In fact our murder rate has been nearly flat for the past 15 years.
Try again.
There is no real statistcal difference
2000 Australia 1.8 per 100000 2009 1.3 per 100000
2000 US 5.5 per 100000 2009 5per 100000
BOTH countries murder rate dropped by .5 per 100000 over the same time period
Explain that
Protecting my and my wife’s life. That’s why guns are a tool for just thatA simple question.
Yesterday 26 people were shot and killed, some of them kids.
Life is going down the drain for lots of people in the US due to guns.
Which would you prefer, to keep your guns or to keep your life?
-Geaux
But you're MORE LIKELY to get killed with a gun.
My god. I'm dealing with complete innumerates.as I said, statistically insignificant.Not nearly as dramatically.So did our murder rate
Not even close.
In fact our murder rate has been nearly flat for the past 15 years.
Try again.
There is no real statistcal difference
2000 Australia 1.8 per 100000 2009 1.3 per 100000
2000 US 5.5 per 100000 2009 5per 100000
BOTH countries murder rate dropped by .5 per 100000 over the same time period
Explain that
You cannot with any certainty say that Australia's gun laws are the single variable responsible for their declining murder rate.
Many other countries that have enacted similar laws have seen their murder rates rise AFTER passing of their gun laws just as Australia's did
Our murder rate declined similarly over the same period without confiscation of guns
It is simplistic to the point of mental retardation to deny that there are more variables than the one you say there is
