Which should have first priority: The woman, the fertilized egg, or the fetus?

[Cecilie1200]

From the OP:

This is a sincere poll. I would appreciate honest answers. If you're willing, I would also appreciate your reasons. I will not criticize your choice. I would just honestly like to know where USMB posters stand on this issue.

NOTE: I know there are many possible variables, but this poll assumes "typical" circumstances. In other words, this is a superficial poll that assumes "normal/average" circumstances - meaning no rape, incest, health, deformity, financial, or other extenuating issues.

Please note that death would be an "extenuating issue", shitforbrains.

It is if you want more kids from a dead woman....Now continue to split hairs cause you be bored.

Continue to try to deflect away from a topic you can't address 'cause you're chickenshit.

As usual, you signaled defeat just by opening your mouth.

I said the woman whether you like it or not..

I said the utterings of your face anus are useless, and not worthy of liking OR disliking. By all means, if pretending that being told your blathering moron is somehow an acknowledgement of your "incisive wit" keeps you from jumping off a bridge in despair and thus backing up city traffic for people who ACTUALLY matter, then go for it.

Eww,do you kiss God with that mouth? I bet he hates seeing you asking for forgiveness..

You do realize the futility of denying your approval to someone who just informed you that she considers you vapor in human form, right? What am I saying, that would take functional thought.

If God has a problem with me, I'm certain He can tell me Himself and does not need your stupid ass to do His job. While He has used the jawbone of an ass to communicate in the past, that doesn't mean EVERY ass is His spokes-donkey.

 

[Lakhota]

Pregnant women who are turned away from clinics spiral into debt and bankruptcy at high rates, a study finds.

What Happens To Women Who Can’t Get Abortions

All anti-choice zealots should read this.

 

[Crixus]

This is a sincere poll. I would appreciate honest answers. If you're willing, I would also appreciate your reasons. I will not criticize your choice. I would just honestly like to know where USMB posters stand on this issue.

NOTE: I know there are many possible variables, but this poll assumes "typical" circumstances. In other words, this is a superficial poll that assumes "normal/average" circumstances - meaning no rape, incest, health, deformity, financial, or other extenuating issues.

So then a fling? Okay, so old girl hits the club and meets some nice dumb muscle. They decied to fool around and the rubber breaks. They make pill for this. You can buy it OTC at Walmart. If it's further along then abortion should not be an option. Yes, it's the woman's right to choose, but if she chooses that then she needs to pony up the bucks to have it done. There is no such thing as an unexpected pregnancy. It's pretty common knowledge, if you put a penis in a vagina chances are good someone will get knocked up.

 

[Dragonlady]

This is a sincere poll. I would appreciate honest answers. If you're willing, I would also appreciate your reasons. I will not criticize your choice. I would just honestly like to know where USMB posters stand on this issue.

NOTE: I know there are many possible variables, but this poll assumes "typical" circumstances. In other words, this is a superficial poll that assumes "normal/average" circumstances - meaning no rape, incest, health, deformity, financial, or other extenuating issues.

So then a fling? Okay, so old girl hits the club and meets some nice dumb muscle. They decied to fool around and the rubber breaks. They make pill for this. You can buy it OTC at Walmart. If it's further along then abortion should not be an option. Yes, it's the woman's right to choose, but if she chooses that then she needs to pony up the bucks to have it done. There is no such thing as an unexpected pregnancy. It's pretty common knowledge, if you put a penis in a vagina chances are good someone will get knocked up.

Every time you anti-abortion types write your reasons for opposing abortions, you talk about women having casual sex - a fling. Abortion studies show that the majority of women having abortions are married or in a committed relationship. The percentage of promiscuous women having abortions is quite low. Abortion is driven by economics, not lifestyle.

The morning after pill you speak of is only recommended in cases of rape or incest. Those are incredibly harmful chemicals, so don't write about them like they're no big deal.

 

[Lysistrata]

This is a sincere poll. I would appreciate honest answers. If you're willing, I would also appreciate your reasons. I will not criticize your choice. I would just honestly like to know where USMB posters stand on this issue.

NOTE: I know there are many possible variables, but this poll assumes "typical" circumstances. In other words, this is a superficial poll that assumes "normal/average" circumstances - meaning no rape, incest, health, deformity, financial, or other extenuating issues.

So then a fling? Okay, so old girl hits the club and meets some nice dumb muscle. They decied to fool around and the rubber breaks. They make pill for this. You can buy it OTC at Walmart. If it's further along then abortion should not be an option. Yes, it's the woman's right to choose, but if she chooses that then she needs to pony up the bucks to have it done. There is no such thing as an unexpected pregnancy. It's pretty common knowledge, if you put a penis in a vagina chances are good someone will get knocked up.

Every time you anti-abortion types write your reasons for opposing abortions, you talk about women having casual sex - a fling. Abortion studies show that the majority of women having abortions are married or in a committed relationship. The percentage of promiscuous women having abortions is quite low. Abortion is driven by economics, not lifestyle.

The morning after pill you speak of is only recommended in cases of rape or incest. Those are incredibly harmful chemicals, so don't write about them like they're no big deal.

The anti-abortion types seem to think that all unwanted pregnancies stem from closing-time casual sex, which seems to indicate that this is the only type of sex they are familiar with. Abortion is usually driven by economics, the failure of the two parents to agree to cooperate to raise an infant to maturity or abandonment by the male partner, medical problems, and the like.

The emphasis that the anti-abortion types place on casual sex, as opposed to people having sex in marriage or in relationships indicates that the source of their opinions is hostility to the fact that people actually have sex than any concern for "the unborn child" in this gun-totin', "let them eat cake," "stop them at the border," "I hate everybody who isn't like me" world.

 

[2aguy]

Pregnant women who are turned away from clinics spiral into debt and bankruptcy at high rates, a study finds.

What Happens To Women Who Can’t Get Abortions

All anti-choice zealots should read this.

It is called adoption......or merely putting the baby at the box at the Fire Dept. Killing is not an option.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

New pjw on topic ..pretty much

Little long

 

[there4eyeM]

Those opposed to abortion must support education. Teach people about choice and what responsibility means. Convince that abortion must be a last resort and rare.
Repression of women through legislation is not tolerable and will not be accepted. Those days are over.

 

[Redfish]

Pregnant women who are turned away from clinics spiral into debt and bankruptcy at high rates, a study finds.

What Happens To Women Who Can’t Get Abortions

All anti-choice zealots should read this.

That may be true, but each of us is responsible for our actions. If pregnancy would cause debt and bankruptcy, don't screw. Its not complicated. But if you screw, don't ask the taxpayers to fund your mistakes.

 

[Redfish]

Those opposed to abortion must support education. Teach people about choice and what responsibility means. Convince that abortion must be a last resort and rare.
Repression of women through legislation is not tolerable and will not be accepted. Those days are over.

Human biology and reproduction are taught in all schools today. How much more education do you think is necessary?

How is it repression to believe that each person is responsible for his or her actions?

I think I get it, you libs think that the sex drive in women is so strong that they cannot control themselves and that the government must take responsibility for their urges.

 

[Redfish]

This is a sincere poll. I would appreciate honest answers. If you're willing, I would also appreciate your reasons. I will not criticize your choice. I would just honestly like to know where USMB posters stand on this issue.

NOTE: I know there are many possible variables, but this poll assumes "typical" circumstances. In other words, this is a superficial poll that assumes "normal/average" circumstances - meaning no rape, incest, health, deformity, financial, or other extenuating issues.

So then a fling? Okay, so old girl hits the club and meets some nice dumb muscle. They decied to fool around and the rubber breaks. They make pill for this. You can buy it OTC at Walmart. If it's further along then abortion should not be an option. Yes, it's the woman's right to choose, but if she chooses that then she needs to pony up the bucks to have it done. There is no such thing as an unexpected pregnancy. It's pretty common knowledge, if you put a penis in a vagina chances are good someone will get knocked up.

Every time you anti-abortion types write your reasons for opposing abortions, you talk about women having casual sex - a fling. Abortion studies show that the majority of women having abortions are married or in a committed relationship. The percentage of promiscuous women having abortions is quite low. Abortion is driven by economics, not lifestyle.

The morning after pill you speak of is only recommended in cases of rape or incest. Those are incredibly harmful chemicals, so don't write about them like they're no big deal.

The anti-abortion types seem to think that all unwanted pregnancies stem from closing-time casual sex, which seems to indicate that this is the only type of sex they are familiar with. Abortion is usually driven by economics, the failure of the two parents to agree to cooperate to raise an infant to maturity or abandonment by the male partner, medical problems, and the like.

The emphasis that the anti-abortion types place on casual sex, as opposed to people having sex in marriage or in relationships indicates that the source of their opinions is hostility to the fact that people actually have sex than any concern for "the unborn child" in this gun-totin', "let them eat cake," "stop them at the border," "I hate everybody who isn't like me" world.

you are very confused

 

[Lysistrata]

Pregnant women who are turned away from clinics spiral into debt and bankruptcy at high rates, a study finds.

What Happens To Women Who Can’t Get Abortions
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All anti-choice zealots should read this.

It is called adoption......or merely putting the baby at the box at the Fire Dept. Killing is not an option.

An abortion is not "killing." No one should be forced to go through pregnancy and childbirth just to satisfy your particular religious desires when they don't share them.

 

[there4eyeM]

The woman has first priority.
That is not confusing.
Generalizations concerning people whom one knows nothing about are quite futile. Judging out of reflex from limited views and understanding does not improve discourse.
Certainly, adults should take responsibility for their actions.
It would help if those in high positions set a positive example instead of what we see currently.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Pregnant women who are turned away from clinics spiral into debt and bankruptcy at high rates, a study finds.

What Happens To Women Who Can’t Get Abortions

All anti-choice zealots should read this.

Yes, we're totally going to be convinced that babies should die because of money, because everyone is a sociopath like you.

 

[there4eyeM]

Pregnant women who are turned away from clinics spiral into debt and bankruptcy at high rates, a study finds.

What Happens To Women Who Can’t Get Abortions

All anti-choice zealots should read this.

Yes, we're totally going to be convinced that babies should die because of money, because everyone is a sociopath like you.

Is that a comment on the lack of affordable health care in the U.S.?

 

[Blues Man]

Pregnant women who are turned away from clinics spiral into debt and bankruptcy at high rates, a study finds.

What Happens To Women Who Can’t Get Abortions

All anti-choice zealots should read this.

Why do you not mention the fact that women who can't get an abortion can give the child up for adoption?

Women are not necessarily forced into financial ruin because of an unwanted pregnancy

 

[Redfish]

Pregnant women who are turned away from clinics spiral into debt and bankruptcy at high rates, a study finds.

What Happens To Women Who Can’t Get Abortions
n
All anti-choice zealots should read this.

It is called adoption......or merely putting the baby at the box at the Fire Dept. Killing is not an option.

An abortion is not "killing." No one should be forced to go through pregnancy and childbirth just to satisfy your particular religious desires when they don't share them.

the unborn child is ALIVE, after the abortion the unborn chilld is DEAD. So tell us how it was not killed by the abortion.

 

[Blues Man]

I'll ask this again since my earlier post has been ignored

If we are going to be rational about the subject of abortion ( I know that's a big ask) then there has to be a consideration of the fact that at some point during gestation where the fetus is no longer a fetus but a viable baby.

It's the difference between a potential human being and an actual human being

 

[Lysistrata]

Those opposed to abortion must support education. Teach people about choice and what responsibility means. Convince that abortion must be a last resort and rare.
Repression of women through legislation is not tolerable and will not be accepted. Those days are over.

Human biology and reproduction are taught in all schools today. How much more education do you think is necessary?

How is it repression to believe that each person is responsible for his or her actions?

I think I get it, you libs think that the sex drive in women is so strong that they cannot control themselves and that the government must take responsibility for their urges.

So you husbands, boyfriends, and guys in bars are willing to go without, regardless of your relationship. That's a good one. Why do men have sex when they don't want a child? Do confess that every time you have had sex, you were ready for 18 years of being a hands-on parent.

It's ridiculous how you lot can yell about abortion while screaming that you need high-powered weaponry, that you hate everyone who doesn't look like you, and that you refuse to aid those in need, including the little children. Your "devotion to life" is so fraudulent and transparent.

 

[Redfish]

The woman has first priority.
That is not confusing.
Generalizations concerning people whom one knows nothing about are quite futile. Judging out of reflex from limited views and understanding does not improve discourse.
Certainly, adults should take responsibility for their actions.
It would help if those in high positions set a positive example instead of what we see currently.

why should the taxpayers take responsibility for any person's irresponsible acts?

that's really the issue here. you libs want the government to absolve you of all responsibility for anything that you do.