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Blah, blah, blah.
What brilliant point do you think HOlder made, that outweighs the last 50 years of national policy, effort and sacrifice?
a whine is crying because he showed you up with facts real reason is confronting those facts with some other fact not "I wasn't talking to Eric Holder" which is a whinehe made his point and it made you whine...I'm talking to you, not Eric Fucking HOlder. YOu have a point to make, make it.
What's the difference between a "whine" and a real "reason"?
Answer: Whether you agree.
I HAve BeEN TalKing to you.Here's the briefing on the Ferguson report for those that won't read it. Holder outlines some of the problems found.
Let's keep in mind that after this report came out, several of the people involved in this resigned.
Attorney General Eric Holder Ferguson Missouri Video C-SPAN.org
I'm talking to you, not Eric Fucking HOlder. YOu have a point to make, make it.
YoU JUSt chOose noT to heaR it.
Blah, blah, blah.
What brilliant point do you think HOlder made, that outweighs the last 50 years of national policy, effort and sacrifice?
I never said it did.
That's your twisted interpretation.
Were those efforts you speak of 100% effective in your estimation?
Blah blah blah...you claim sacrifice you have no sacrifices you can actually cite...we have this over the last 50 years ...I HAve BeEN TalKing to you.Here's the briefing on the Ferguson report for those that won't read it. Holder outlines some of the problems found.
Let's keep in mind that after this report came out, several of the people involved in this resigned.
Attorney General Eric Holder Ferguson Missouri Video C-SPAN.org
I'm talking to you, not Eric Fucking HOlder. YOu have a point to make, make it.
YoU JUSt chOose noT to heaR it.
Blah, blah, blah.
What brilliant point do you think HOlder made, that outweighs the last 50 years of national policy, effort and sacrifice?
I never said it did.
That's your twisted interpretation.
Were those efforts you speak of 100% effective in your estimation?
Have you read the OP?
That's the topic.
THe OP holds "America" and by that it means White America responsible for "unforgivable crimes" against blacks.
It denies the last 50 years.
If you disagree with that, then you are on my side in this debate.
Blah, blah, blah.
What brilliant point do you think HOlder made, that outweighs the last 50 years of national policy, effort and sacrifice?
Holder's report showed the systematic exploitation of the Black population by a nearly all white power strucvture that was harsh and selective in enforcement and used the poor Black folks as an ATM machine ...taxing through the legal system...it was telling how the rats left the ship after the report
Blah blah blah...you claim sacrifice you have no sacrifices you can actually cite...we have this over the last 50 years ...I HAve BeEN TalKing to you.I'm talking to you, not Eric Fucking HOlder. YOu have a point to make, make it.
YoU JUSt chOose noT to heaR it.
Blah, blah, blah.
What brilliant point do you think HOlder made, that outweighs the last 50 years of national policy, effort and sacrifice?
I never said it did.
That's your twisted interpretation.
Were those efforts you speak of 100% effective in your estimation?
Have you read the OP?
That's the topic.
THe OP holds "America" and by that it means White America responsible for "unforgivable crimes" against blacks.
It denies the last 50 years.
If you disagree with that, then you are on my side in this debate.
The chart above cannot be explained by "Black Criminality" but by a change in the social playing field that was discriminatory against Blacks ...for instance Blacks and whites both smoke marijuana at the same rate in each population but Blacks are 3 times as likely to be charged ...its systematic ...its not DNA that explains nor are there cultural issues that explain the chart...
The chart above cannot be explained by "Black Criminality" but by a change in the social playing field that was discriminatory against Blacks ...for instance Blacks and whites both smoke marijuana at the same rate in each population but Blacks are 3 times as likely to be charged ...its systematic ...its not DNA that explains nor are there cultural issues that explain the chart...
Blah, blah, blah.
What brilliant point do you think HOlder made, that outweighs the last 50 years of national policy, effort and sacrifice?
Holder's report showed the systematic exploitation of the Black population by a nearly all white power strucvture that was harsh and selective in enforcement and used the poor Black folks as an ATM machine ...taxing through the legal system...it was telling how the rats left the ship after the report
Wow. YOu mean a city used tickets and fines as a source of revenue?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've been complaining about the abuse of that system in my own city for years. I personally know whites who have suffered real harm from this abuse.
DO you really care about it, or is it just something to use to slam whitey with?
Has anything been done about it?
Or, has it's use been accomplished, ie whitey was slammed?
Is anything being done about it? Anything being tried?
YOur assumption that the reason I don't agree with you, is because I don't understand the data, is nothing but a classic closed mind. You cannot imagine that a reasonable person would reasonable disagree with you.
I understand the data fine.
YOu are the one that posted that the "majority of those ticketed were black", with no reference to the demographics of the city being majority black OR of the age differences of the two groups.
And anyone who thinks that you can discriminate in favor of blacks without discriminating against whites is the insane one.
We whites have been sacrificing for 50 years to try to help the blacks, and this is the thanks we get?
MOre and more, we are done.
Show me where I said what you quoted. It doesn't exist.
The demographics of Ferguson are in THE REPORT that I have posted repeatedly. If you chose not to read it than you DON'T understand the data. If you had read it you would not be saying what you are.
Opps, sorry that was closedcaption not you.
If you think there is some argument in that report that outweighs the last 50 years of national policy, effort and sacrifice, you go right ahead and make it, buddy.
And anyone who thinks that you can discriminate in favor of blacks without discriminating against whites is the insane one.
We whites have been sacrificing for 50 years to try to help the blacks, and this is the thanks we get?
MOre and more, we are done.
I am not arguing that at all. YOU ARE.
I said efforts have fallen short in some areas and more work is needed.
As far as affirmative action, I suppose a few white guys losing out to a few black guys is worse than this......
View attachment 41118
Logical fallacy of the False Dilemma.
Ending anti-white discrimination does NOT mean going back to the Era of Jim Crow.
How old is that picture? 60 years? More?
We whites have been sacrificing for 50 years to try to help the blacks, and this is the thanks we get?
MOre and more, we are done.
You want more work?
Attacks like the OP, riots, ect.
THey don't encourage more work, they encourage ending the work. And the quicker the better.
Why do you suppose AA was deemed necessary in the first place? Do you think it was maybe because people wouldn't hire blacks and other minorities? You act as if these things never happened.
Blah, blah, blah.
What brilliant point do you think HOlder made, that outweighs the last 50 years of national policy, effort and sacrifice?
Holder's report showed the systematic exploitation of the Black population by a nearly all white power strucvture that was harsh and selective in enforcement and used the poor Black folks as an ATM machine ...taxing through the legal system...it was telling how the rats left the ship after the report
Blah, blah, blah.
What brilliant point do you think HOlder made, that outweighs the last 50 years of national policy, effort and sacrifice?
Holder's report showed the systematic exploitation of the Black population by a nearly all white power strucvture that was harsh and selective in enforcement and used the poor Black folks as an ATM machine ...taxing through the legal system...it was telling how the rats left the ship after the report
Wow. YOu mean a city used tickets and fines as a source of revenue?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've been complaining about the abuse of that system in my own city for years. I personally know whites who have suffered real harm from this abuse.
DO you really care about it, or is it just something to use to slam whitey with?
Has anything been done about it?
Or, has it's use been accomplished, ie whitey was slammed?
Is anything being done about it? Anything being tried?
Wow!
The first step to correcting a problem is identifying the problem. (That's if you choose to see a problem at all).
Let's also be clear that this problem would be invisible if social unrest had not shown a national light on it.
YOur assumption that the reason I don't agree with you, is because I don't understand the data, is nothing but a classic closed mind. You cannot imagine that a reasonable person would reasonable disagree with you.
I understand the data fine.
YOu are the one that posted that the "majority of those ticketed were black", with no reference to the demographics of the city being majority black OR of the age differences of the two groups.
And anyone who thinks that you can discriminate in favor of blacks without discriminating against whites is the insane one.
We whites have been sacrificing for 50 years to try to help the blacks, and this is the thanks we get?
MOre and more, we are done.
Show me where I said what you quoted. It doesn't exist.
The demographics of Ferguson are in THE REPORT that I have posted repeatedly. If you chose not to read it than you DON'T understand the data. If you had read it you would not be saying what you are.
Opps, sorry that was closedcaption not you.
If you think there is some argument in that report that outweighs the last 50 years of national policy, effort and sacrifice, you go right ahead and make it, buddy.
And anyone who thinks that you can discriminate in favor of blacks without discriminating against whites is the insane one.
We whites have been sacrificing for 50 years to try to help the blacks, and this is the thanks we get?
MOre and more, we are done.
I am not arguing that at all. YOU ARE.
I said efforts have fallen short in some areas and more work is needed.
As far as affirmative action, I suppose a few white guys losing out to a few black guys is worse than this......
View attachment 41118
Logical fallacy of the False Dilemma.
Ending anti-white discrimination does NOT mean going back to the Era of Jim Crow.
How old is that picture? 60 years? More?
We whites have been sacrificing for 50 years to try to help the blacks, and this is the thanks we get?
MOre and more, we are done.
You want more work?
Attacks like the OP, riots, ect.
THey don't encourage more work, they encourage ending the work. And the quicker the better.
Why do you suppose AA was deemed necessary in the first place? Do you think it was maybe because people wouldn't hire blacks and other minorities? You act as if these things never happened.
Blah, blah, blah.
What brilliant point do you think HOlder made, that outweighs the last 50 years of national policy, effort and sacrifice?
Holder's report showed the systematic exploitation of the Black population by a nearly all white power strucvture that was harsh and selective in enforcement and used the poor Black folks as an ATM machine ...taxing through the legal system...it was telling how the rats left the ship after the report
This is where Cornell will abandon the "doesnt hold anyone down" bullshit unless he considers getting fined for minor offenses as being uplifting and paying ridiculous fines as being patriotic
Blah, blah, blah.
What brilliant point do you think HOlder made, that outweighs the last 50 years of national policy, effort and sacrifice?
Holder's report showed the systematic exploitation of the Black population by a nearly all white power strucvture that was harsh and selective in enforcement and used the poor Black folks as an ATM machine ...taxing through the legal system...it was telling how the rats left the ship after the report
This is where Cornell will abandon the "doesnt hold anyone down" bullshit unless he considers getting fined for minor offenses as being uplifting and paying ridiculous fines as being patriotic
This is where I will point out that the abuse of fines by local governments does not outweigh that last 50 years of national policy and effort and sacrifice.
YOu do realize that by dismissing all the efforts that have been made, that you are really, really discouraging ANY futher efforts, right?
Blah, blah, blah.
What brilliant point do you think HOlder made, that outweighs the last 50 years of national policy, effort and sacrifice?
Holder's report showed the systematic exploitation of the Black population by a nearly all white power strucvture that was harsh and selective in enforcement and used the poor Black folks as an ATM machine ...taxing through the legal system...it was telling how the rats left the ship after the report
This is where Cornell will abandon the "doesnt hold anyone down" bullshit unless he considers getting fined for minor offenses as being uplifting and paying ridiculous fines as being patriotic
This is where I will point out that the abuse of fines by local governments does not outweigh that last 50 years of national policy and effort and sacrifice.
YOu do realize that by dismissing all the efforts that have been made, that you are really, really discouraging ANY futher efforts, right?
Yeah, but the problem is that no one is arguing that one thing makes the other disappear but you. And the reason why is because its false logic to begin with. No action makes another action disappear. Thats just your way of copping with the information.
"Yeah thats bad but it doesnt take away from the good, does it?"
Ok buddy, I'm not going to argue with you uabout what you believe I believe. I'm here to talk facts
