Asclepias
Diamond Member
Why are you trying to exclude race?I think youre missing the point. If white women dont have to fight as hard as Black men and women then its racial.White women dont have to work harder than Black men and women. Youre second in line. Obviously its a race thing.its weird you dont see the grave injustice in what you just said. Why should Blacks have to work harder than whites just to get the same thing whites have? I know whites need help against competition but where is your sense of pride and fairness?
I said REGARLESS of race......meaning ANYONE. Figure this.......women have had to work harder than men to be taken seriously in the workplace, freed prisoners or reformed addicts or any group you want to insert.......has to work harder than who they perceive as the 'privileged' few......in order to overcome the stigma of what held them down in the past (ie...men, crime, drugs, etc)
Women have had plenty to fight for against men and are still fighting it......but we don't give up just because we can't be first
I think you're missing the point.......I've tried twice(?) now to EXCLUDE race, and you keep bringing it back. So.........
If it were still so bad, as pre-civil rights era, how did so many blacks ever make it in politics or business? Or how did Obama ever make President? Not that I like Obama, I don't, but not because he's black, but for what he's done to this country.Or MLK ever be such a public figure to influence such a wide audience? Why??? Because they didn't use those same excuses. It's because they believed in themselves enough to push past those barriers & not let those same barriers hold them back.....like a majority of blacks do. If blacks didn't have the same opportunities as anyone else, they'd still be picking cotton. The same opportunities are there for all, ya'll just need to step up & take them without inciting violence & blame for what was
I never said it was as bad as pre-civil rights. Where did you get that idea? Obama became POTUS because people of color voted for him by a vast majority while white support never eclipsed 40%.
MLK became such a public figure because he had a great speaking voice and he was a passive resister which was more preferable to whites than someone ready to go to war for their rights.
No the same opportunities are not there for Blacks. If that were the case we wouldnt still have discrimination suits and more white imposed hurdles to navigate.