White-hating racists get Stormfront booted off the internet ! FIRST AMENMENT IS DEAD

[EverCurious]

We can create an internet 2.0 using a different DNS system. Call it THE free speech zone. It'd be low population for a while, but you know how lefties work, they must always have a cause so eventually there will be nothing allowed to be spoken about on internet 1.0 and the honest folk would start seeking refuge from the fascists [upgrading to 2.0].

How would you do that since you dont own any pathways? You would need to connect via some medium.

The pathway's are not physical so no one "owns" them nor needs to install them per say. Each computer/server (and these days, TV's, phones, security systems, etc.) on the planet technically has it's own unique accessible IP that could theoretically be accessed from anywhere in the world (were it not for IT security systems to prevent it.) However folks tend to not like recalling a string of numbers to find a certain site (computer/server) like say Bing anyway. The current "internet" system was created to help give meaning to the long string of numbers that addresses each computer/server. Lets have an old fashioned telephone analogy to help explain simplistically:

TLDR version - access to the internet is a tiered system, kind of like a phone book. The top tier (run by ICANN and IANA) are like a "global" phone book, individual countries can have a version, cities have a version (those are your domain name registrars or second highest tier), even a single building could have a small phone book (that would be a host or first tier, individual offices would be like the bottom tier) - because regardless of what is printed in the phone book at hand, they're all still connected together and able to call other office buildings, cities, states, and countries. All are connected together and thus able to connect to each other (save IT security software) - to example, if you turned on your remote desktop services and gave me your computers IP number, I could log into your computer and use it as though I were sitting at your desk. IT folks use that function to remotely repair computer issues these days, but that inter-connectivity is the real foundation of networks, which the internet is basically just a global network, that creates the internet we have today.

Ultimately IANA and ICANN are essentially massive global phone books [at the top tier] which manage [gateways] where your "phone call" ends up, they use words [domain names] instead of numbers [IP addresses] to make life easier for users. (Usmessageboard.com instead of their IP address [lowest tier], which is actually routed to godaddy's "local phone book" registry [next tier], that they have submitted to [IANA & ICANN] the "global phone book" [top tier].)

So basically, to make an internet 2.0 you create a new IANA/ICANN - it uses the same "unownable" network interconnectivity as internet 1.0, only the global phone book changes (the gateways basically.) The tech and "infrastructure" of "internet 2.0" exists and is in use all over the world right now. Global banks and big businesses have global private networks that run on the internet at the lower two tiers and require special software to gain access to their seperate internet network, (just one of many - Aryaka Builds a Global Private Network for SD-WAN ), but as it's all software driven rather than "hard wired," internet 2.0 creation at the top tier is practically as simple as installing a software that accesses internet 2.0's new top tier registry and parsing gateways to internet 2.0, in fact you could theoretically parse for both internet 1.0 and internet 2.0 simultaneously.


More in depth:

The Host is one of the only physical parts of the internet, it is a computer or server that physically exists - in my analogy it is akin to an office building.

The IP is another quasi physical part, which is the actual string of numbers of that computer/server, except that probably 90% of the sites we visit are virtual [or VPN "Virtual Private Network"] so they're not individual computers, but rather a specific location on the hosts computer/server - in my analogy we can say that the VPN's are individual offices within the office building.

It gets a bit tricky here; DNS is a bit of a misnomer, you'll hear it called "Domain Name System," "Domain Name Server," "Domain Name Software," and the like but the term is actually a bit of an appropriated catch all phrase for all the various software's that make up the internet as we know it (its part of the "pathways" as you put it) but it's an all-encompassing term more akin to saying "Accounting" which includes different bits like accounts receivable, accounts payable, etc. etc. (DNS is actually just a software program that gives any computer/server plugged into the internet the ability to bring guests onto their computer/server [aka become a host location].)

If we dig deeper into the encompassing term DNS we find things like; NS ("Name Server" or sometimes "Name Space") which is a kind of miniature domain name registration database for each individual hosts computer/server network - this would be like a directory screen within the office building lobby that tells you who is in each individual office. (*Note there are many registers out there; USMB uses GoDaddy, I use Tucows, Stormfront used Network Solutions, for example.)

​

In the grander, and yet more simplistic, scope of my telephone analogy, the DNS is both the telephone line's and the telephone book, and the NS is akin to individual pages in a phone book. Each "page" being an individual server/computer [registered server] and all of them connected to each other through the phone network [aka the internet.] When you type in a domain name [UsMessageBoard.com for example] it basically looks up that "business name" in the "phone book" and automatically inputs the "phone number" [IP address] from the phone book [Internet DNS.]

Just as a city can create an individual phone book for "local" businesses, yet still be able to call other cities and countries, and anyone with the hardware & software can plug into the phone network. The internet is much the same, a new computer/server (using DNS software) can create and register a new NS and send their "phone number list" to the "global phone book" (previously managed by government monitored/restricted IANA [traditionaly Europe] and ICANN [traditionally America] but now free market.)

For an entirely new internet 2.0 one just needs to create a new database equivalent to IANA [Europe] & ICANN [America] (which is essentially akin to making a new "global" phone book.) No new cables need to be run to do it, it's just a change of whom the specific number sets get routed through. The "pathway" is not a physical thing that one company, or even a few companies, can own because it consists of millions, perhaps trillions, of individual computers/servers connected together through thousands or millions of networks - which these days can even connect through the air (wireless) so there's not really anything to have ownership of, even considering any physical cabling that may or may not be in use.

Could also create a 2.0 through ISPs [internet service providers] they are the only real "owners" of any tangible physical connectivity to the internet network but anyone can start an ISP and any customers can pay them for access - the ISPs are akin to the old school operator who plugs their individual network of "phones" [their internet user customers] into the global telephone system at large [the internet.] Thus, instructing (or creating) an ISP to connect up to a different "internet network top tier registry" (internet 2.0's global phone book) is as nearly easy as printing out a new phone book (create a new top tier registry database) because the phone numbers (IP addresses) all exist and are accessible regardless of where the operator (ISP) plugs into the telephone system (internet).

 

[Asclepias]

You idiots who think blacks are mentally equal to whites need to explain why

1. Blacks come in last in all standardized tests. Asians do fine on all the tests so it's not due to cultural bias in the tests..

2. Africa is by far the poorest and most backward continent on the planet. All of black africa is now controlled by blacks and has been for decades so it's not due to racism.

3. No black has ever won a Science Nobel Prize unless you count one in 1979 for the semi-science of economics. They have won many nobels in non-brain fields like Peace and also in Literature so it is not due to racism.

4. Out of 1552 chess grandmasters in the world, only THREE are black.

You're one sick motherfucker. I'm white and I want to kick your inbred fucking ass. Die bitch.

Can't dispute his points so you revert to name calling and threats.

Disputing that retards points is like arguing with a senile monkey. No wonder everyone laughs at you.

 

[Asclepias]

A privately owned website provider has decided they don't want to be associated with the trash that populated stormfront. The members of that group still have freedom of speech. But the 1st amendment does not guarantee access to someone else's property.

There is something I love about that argument. It cannot stand scrutiny.

If the First Amendment does not guarantee access to someone else's property, tell me how a gay couple has the right to force a private business to make a cake for a gay wedding.

Where, may I ask are the baker's rights?

When it's convenient, some people argue that whites have no rights. But, when the other side of the coin is presented, whites are somehow locked out on the SAME grounds the whites used when they tried to protect themselves. Funny how that works.

If the First Amendment does not guarantee access to someone else's property, tell me how a gay couple has the right to force a private business to make a cake for a gay wedding.

Tell me WITF cake has anything to do with the 1st amd. You just conflated and convoluted a simple point into nonsense.

The First Amendment protects against there being a state religion. Forcing someone in the private sector to violate their religious conscience violates the so - called "separation of church and state" the left babbles on about.

The business isnt owned by the church you retard. When you open a business its in the public domain.

It is a PRIVATE business. Let me give you an example:

A private business can tell you not to enter the premises with a firearm. It doesn't matter that the Second Amendment guarantees you the Right to keep and bear Arms; it don't matter if you have a carry permit. The business is PRIVATE PROPERTY.

The laws your side keeps referencing are predicated upon public policy, designed to force people to think a certain way, even if it means denying them their Rights.

No stupid. Its a publicly accessible business. It has nothing to do with someones religion since its in the public domain. If you want to discriminate you either open a private club or you abide by the PA laws set forth. You retards need to go back to school. Aren't you embarrassed that youre the only one that doesnt realize you have no clue what you are talking about?

 

[Asclepias]

We can create an internet 2.0 using a different DNS system. Call it THE free speech zone. It'd be low population for a while, but you know how lefties work, they must always have a cause so eventually there will be nothing allowed to be spoken about on internet 1.0 and the honest folk would start seeking refuge from the fascists [upgrading to 2.0].

How would you do that since you dont own any pathways? You would need to connect via some medium.

The pathway's are not physical so no one "owns" them nor needs to install them per say. Each computer/server (and these days, TV's, phones, security systems, etc.) on the planet technically has it's own unique accessible IP that could theoretically be accessed from anywhere in the world (were it not for IT security systems to prevent it.) However folks tend to not like recalling a string of numbers to find a certain site (computer/server) like say Bing anyway. The current "internet" system was created to help give meaning to the long string of numbers that addresses each computer/server. Lets have an old fashioned telephone analogy to help explain simplistically:

TLDR version - access to the internet is a tiered system, kind of like a phone book. The top tier (run by ICANN and IANA) are like a "global" phone book, individual countries can have a version, cities have a version (those are your domain name registrars or second highest tier), even a single building could have a small phone book (that would be a host or first tier, individual offices would be like the bottom tier) - because regardless of what is printed in the phone book at hand, they're all still connected together and able to call other office buildings, cities, states, and countries. All are connected together and thus able to connect to each other (save IT security software) - to example, if you turned on your remote desktop services and gave me your computers IP number, I could log into your computer and use it as though I were sitting at your desk. IT folks use that function to remotely repair computer issues these days, but that inter-connectivity is the real foundation of networks, which the internet is basically just a global network, that creates the internet we have today.

Ultimately IANA and ICANN are essentially massive global phone books [at the top tier] which manage [gateways] where your "phone call" ends up, they use words [domain names] instead of numbers [IP addresses] to make life easier for users. (Usmessageboard.com instead of their IP address [lowest tier], which is actually routed to godaddy's "local phone book" registry [next tier], that they have submitted to [IANA & ICANN] the "global phone book" [top tier].)

So basically, to make an internet 2.0 you create a new IANA/ICANN - it uses the same "unownable" network interconnectivity as internet 1.0, only the global phone book changes (the gateways basically.) The tech and "infrastructure" of "internet 2.0" exists and is in use all over the world right now. Global banks and big businesses have global private networks that run on the internet at the lower two tiers and require special software to gain access to their seperate internet network, (just one of many - Aryaka Builds a Global Private Network for SD-WAN ), but as it's all software driven rather than "hard wired," internet 2.0 creation at the top tier is practically as simple as installing a software that accesses internet 2.0's new top tier registry and parsing gateways to internet 2.0, in fact you could theoretically parse for both internet 1.0 and internet 2.0 simultaneously.


More in depth:

The Host is one of the only physical parts of the internet, it is a computer or server that physically exists - in my analogy it is akin to an office building.

The IP is another quasi physical part, which is the actual string of numbers of that computer/server, except that probably 90% of the sites we visit are virtual [or VPN "Virtual Private Network"] so they're not individual computers, but rather a specific location on the hosts computer/server - in my analogy we can say that the VPN's are individual offices within the office building.

It gets a bit tricky here; DNS is a bit of a misnomer, you'll hear it called "Domain Name System," "Domain Name Server," "Domain Name Software," and the like but the term is actually a bit of an appropriated catch all phrase for all the various software's that make up the internet as we know it (its part of the "pathways" as you put it) but it's an all-encompassing term more akin to saying "Accounting" which includes different bits like accounts receivable, accounts payable, etc. etc. (DNS is actually just a software program that gives any computer/server plugged into the internet the ability to bring guests onto their computer/server [aka become a host location].)

If we dig deeper into the encompassing term DNS we find things like; NS ("Name Server" or sometimes "Name Space") which is a kind of miniature domain name registration database for each individual hosts computer/server network - this would be like a directory screen within the office building lobby that tells you who is in each individual office. (*Note there are many registers out there; USMB uses GoDaddy, I use Tucows, Stormfront used Network Solutions, for example.)

​

In the grander, and yet more simplistic, scope of my telephone analogy, the DNS is both the telephone line's and the telephone book, and the NS is akin to individual pages in a phone book. Each "page" being an individual server/computer [registered server] and all of them connected to each other through the phone network [aka the internet.] When you type in a domain name [UsMessageBoard.com for example] it basically looks up that "business name" in the "phone book" and automatically inputs the "phone number" [IP address] from the phone book [Internet DNS.]

Just as a city can create an individual phone book for "local" businesses, yet still be able to call other cities and countries, and anyone with the hardware & software can plug into the phone network. The internet is much the same, a new computer/server (using DNS software) can create and register a new NS and send their "phone number list" to the "global phone book" (previously managed by government monitored/restricted IANA [traditionaly Europe] and ICANN [traditionally America] but now free market.)

For an entirely new internet 2.0 one just needs to create a new database equivalent to IANA [Europe] & ICANN [America] (which is essentially akin to making a new "global" phone book.) No new cables need to be run to do it, it's just a change of whom the specific number sets get routed through. The "pathway" is not a physical thing that one company, or even a few companies, can own because it consists of millions, perhaps trillions, of individual computers/servers connected together through thousands or millions of networks - which these days can even connect through the air (wireless) so there's not really anything to have ownership of, even considering any physical cabling that may or may not be in use.

Could also create a 2.0 through ISPs [internet service providers] they are the only real "owners" of any tangible physical connectivity to the internet network but anyone can start an ISP and any customers can pay them for access - the ISPs are akin to the old school operator who plugs their individual network of "phones" [their internet user customers] into the global telephone system at large [the internet.] Thus, instructing (or creating) an ISP to connect up to a different "internet network top tier registry" (internet 2.0's global phone book) is as nearly easy as printing out a new phone book (create a new top tier registry database) because the phone numbers (IP addresses) all exist and are accessible regardless of where the operator (ISP) plugs into the telephone system (internet).

Your brain must be addled. The pathways are physical. Dont embarrass yourself. I do this for a living. Do you really believe that the ip packets that are transmitted around the world dont travel on a physical medium? What are you going do? Have everyone on your internet use bluetooth? You do realize that has a limitation of only 40ft right? Youre going to need an awful lot or repeaters.

That little cable that connects to your modem? Its physical. You own it. Same thing with the cabling from that little connection in the wall to the outside of your home. However after that pathway changes depending on your access. Same with the ownership. The internet is made up of physical connections. It wouldnt even exist without the physical aspects because there would be nothing to send the electrical impulse on.

How DS1 and DS3 Bandwidth Are Related

 

[WinterBorn]

So why do we allow websites that openly advocate for affirmative action, the govt mandated persecution of white men and the biggest hate crime in america.

Stormfront, internet’s longest-running white supremacist site, goes offline

aug 26 2017 Stormfront, one of the internet’s oldest and most popular white supremacist sites, has been booted off its web address of more than two decades amid a crackdown against hate sites.

The address Stormfront.org went dark on Friday, and publicly available information current lists its domain status as “under hold,” a category reserved for websites under legal dispute or slated for deletion, the USA Today network first reported.

The Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, a D.C.-based nonprofit group, said it was behind the effort and had successfully booted the website from its domain of 22 years by raising its concerns with Stormfront’s registrar, Network Solutions LLC, and its parent company, Web.com.

“Their website is a vehicle used to promote racially-motivated violence and hate,” Kristen Clarke, the committee’s executive director, said in a statement. “Following our efforts, Network Solutions has pulled the site. We are working across the country to combat the spread of hate crimes.”

It's a disaster, those (^*%#@#&&^$#';s have invaded the USMB with their hate and filth and their evil ideology.

Yeah scumbag white people... we should kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out. (Sarcasm intended) Idiocy, plain idiocy.

Are they bashing white people? Or are they speaking out against the violent evil that is the white nationalist movement? Those are two very different things.

I think a lot of white activists exist because they were the victims of some social injustice being done in the name of multiculturalism. Since society does not allow responsible white activists to exist, you have people like Stormfront. Then, without them, the whites have virtually no representation.

Someone should step forward and take the media heat and push forward for the preservation, protection and advancement of white people, but not at the expense of the rights of others.

So if the activists have been the victims of social injustice being done because of their skin color, it is ok? Sounds like approval of BLM.

 

[WinterBorn]

No one denied them the right to believe.

No one was denied any rights.

No one was forced to give up any rights.

If you choose to defend discrimination, that is your choice. But the laws against discrimination do not violate the US Constitution.

Totally nucking futs! If you believe that doing a certain action is wrong, then it's wrong. Forcing people to do that which they find morally reprehensible is wrong. What in the Hell is so hard about understanding that?

So the bakers find baking a cake "morally reprehensible". Because no one even invited them to the actual wedding. The two lesbians marrying did not make them gay.

You don't have the fucking right to judge what others find morally reprehensible. You don't have any God given Right to impose your standards on other people. IF laws are constructed to force you to do that which you find objectionable, you should be able to abstain.

The gay people can go to virtually any place that bakes cakes and buy what they want. It's not that big of a deal. If it were me, I'd burn that damn bakery to the ground before I'd violate the dictates of my conscience. And, if that were done, maybe I could go on welfare, my employees on unemployment and the government could raise YOUR taxes to make up the difference.

Now, do you understand?

Oh I got it long ago. You hate gay people. No biggie.

Funny, you demand that no one be able to judge what people find morally reprehensible. And you demand that the world accept your view that the bakers were right. I find their actions morally reprehensible.

Absolute lunacy. I don't allow people to smoke in my home, but my mother was a lifelong smoker - just never in my home. I sure as Hell didn't "hate" her. So, you fail yet again. I don't have any personal issue with gays.

No, of course you don't have any problems with gays. You would just burn your business to the ground (costing you tens of thousands of dollars of dollars and the actual business) before you would sell them a wedding cake. Why would anyone think you have a problem with gays.

And the analogy of your Mom smoking is not even close to what I said.

 

[WinterBorn]

I love that you went from arguing an actual point to accusations of trolling or questioning what they get out of posting (especially since you are doing the same thing).

I'm merely responding to a continuation of troll posts. Nothing more and certainly nothing less.

The points have been made - asked and answered. Ignoring what I've posted doesn't bolster any claims by those on your side. If your argument fails, it fails. And it failed. Those pushing your side's talking points have NO case. There is nothing more to be said.

Pointing out that the situations and laws are different when talking StormCunt and the bakery is not trolling. It is factual.

WTF??? All of this has been covered umpteen times. You've cited your mickey mouse laws. I moved beyond that. I don't have to obey unconstitutional acts. And I won't. Don't like it? Sin Loi Victor Charlie.

YOu are welcome to claim that they are unconstitutional. There has been no ruling to that effect.

I don't need a court to tell me right from wrong. If they acknowledge my Rights, that's fine. If it takes resistance, so be it. But, if I were the baker, I'd be asking the government and the gay couple how far they wanted to take this.

Do the gays want to jack up everybody's taxes to keep someone else from obeying the dictates of their conscience? Do they want to put others out of work just because they don't want to go a mile down the road to another baker?

This is nonsense. I get that some Christians cherry-pick the scriptures to justify a dislike of gays. But the two lesbians in question have been gay all their lives. Gay marriage did not r homosexuality. They simply want to marry. Conscience? There are laws against discrimination. If they don't want to obey them, they will pay a fine.

 

[WinterBorn]

Why are the nut jobs at those white supremacy or nationalist groups so paranoid and insecure? They all seem to be obsessed with fear about when their daughters, sisters, moms and girl friends will stick a black dick into one or both of their orifices.

Nut jobs??? You talk trash like that in public? If you did in this neighborhood, the nice men in white suits would help you into the van.

Says the guy who claims he would burn a business to the ground rather than sell a cake to a gay couple. Now THAT would get you put away.

 

[WinterBorn]

You idiots who think blacks are mentally equal to whites need to explain why

1. Blacks come in last in all standardized tests. Asians do fine on all the tests so it's not due to cultural bias in the tests..

2. Africa is by far the poorest and most backward continent on the planet. All of black africa is now controlled by blacks and has been for decades so it's not due to racism.

3. No black has ever won a Science Nobel Prize unless you count one in 1979 for the semi-science of economics. They have won many nobels in non-brain fields like Peace and also in Literature so it is not due to racism.

4. Out of 1552 chess grandmasters in the world, only THREE are black.

You're one sick motherfucker. I'm white and I want to kick your inbred fucking ass. Die bitch.

Can't dispute his points so you revert to name calling and threats.

Unless his points show that all blacks are inferior to all whites, his point is moot. (not to mention the other factors involved)

And I personally know a dozen or more blacks that are smarter and more accomplished than most whites. And the whites I have met who believe the white nationalist bullshit? They aren't even close.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

If you can force a bakery to bake a faggot cake then you should also force a webhosting site to host a white supremacist web site. Or are you a hypocrite?

Liberals say the two cases are entirely different since child molesting faggots are good people but white nationalists trying to end the racism of affirmative action are bad people.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Unless his points show that all blacks are inferior to all whites, his point is moot. (not to mention the other factors involved)

HAHAHA. You're so dumb you don't even know what an average is. No one is saying all blacks are inferior to all whites. But the average black is definitely inferior to the average white. Of course intelligence is spread out over a wide range so naturally there will some smart blacks and some dumb whites just like there are some women taller than some men. THINK, you miserable white-hater.

 

[WinterBorn]

If you can force a bakery to bake a faggot cake then you should also force a webhosting site to host a white supremacist web site. Or are you a hypocrite?

Liberals say the two cases are entirely different since child molesting faggots are good people but white nationalists trying to end the racism of affirmative action are bad people.

No. Rational people see the difference between a long standing anti-discrimination law and the basic clause in a legal contract.

 

[WinterBorn]

Unless his points show that all blacks are inferior to all whites, his point is moot. (not to mention the other factors involved)

HAHAHA. You're so dumb you don't even know what an average is. No one is saying all blacks are inferior to all whites. But the average black is definitely inferior to the average white. Of course intelligence is spread out over a wide range so naturally there will some smart blacks and some dumb whites just like there are some women taller than some men. THINK, you miserable white-hater.

I think all the time. That is why I understand that it is the individual, not the entire race, that counts. Your post above says as much.

 

[Wry Catcher]

So why do we allow websites that openly advocate for affirmative action, the govt mandated persecution of white men and the biggest hate crime in america.

It's a disaster, those (^*%#@#&&^$#';s have invaded the USMB with their hate and filth and their evil ideology.

Yeah scumbag white people... we should kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out. (Sarcasm intended) Idiocy, plain idiocy.

Are they bashing white people? Or are they speaking out against the violent evil that is the white nationalist movement? Those are two very different things.

I think a lot of white activists exist because they were the victims of some social injustice being done in the name of multiculturalism. Since society does not allow responsible white activists to exist, you have people like Stormfront. Then, without them, the whites have virtually no representation.

Someone should step forward and take the media heat and push forward for the preservation, protection and advancement of white people, but not at the expense of the rights of others.

So if the activists have been the victims of social injustice being done because of their skin color, it is ok? Sounds like approval of BLM.

You object to BLM but fail to explain why.

My guess is you lump together the few who assassinated police officers, with the many who protest peacefully. No rational person who observed the killing of unarmed black men by police officers, believe the officers acted our of fear for their life. I observed the videos and having written use of force policy, saw violation of the use of lethal force.

 

[WinterBorn]

It's a disaster, those (^*%#@#&&^$#';s have invaded the USMB with their hate and filth and their evil ideology.

Yeah scumbag white people... we should kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out. (Sarcasm intended) Idiocy, plain idiocy.

Are they bashing white people? Or are they speaking out against the violent evil that is the white nationalist movement? Those are two very different things.

I think a lot of white activists exist because they were the victims of some social injustice being done in the name of multiculturalism. Since society does not allow responsible white activists to exist, you have people like Stormfront. Then, without them, the whites have virtually no representation.

Someone should step forward and take the media heat and push forward for the preservation, protection and advancement of white people, but not at the expense of the rights of others.

So if the activists have been the victims of social injustice being done because of their skin color, it is ok? Sounds like approval of BLM.

You object to BLM but fail to explain why.

My guess is you lump together the few who assassinated police officers, with the many who protest peacefully. No rational person who observed the killing of unarmed black men by police officers, believe the officers acted our of fear for their life. I observed the videos and having written use of force policy, saw violation of the use of lethal force.

I have not said anything about how I feel about the BLM.

 

[Faun]

I'm merely responding to a continuation of troll posts. Nothing more and certainly nothing less.

The points have been made - asked and answered. Ignoring what I've posted doesn't bolster any claims by those on your side. If your argument fails, it fails. And it failed. Those pushing your side's talking points have NO case. There is nothing more to be said.

Pointing out that the situations and laws are different when talking StormCunt and the bakery is not trolling. It is factual.

WTF??? All of this has been covered umpteen times. You've cited your mickey mouse laws. I moved beyond that. I don't have to obey unconstitutional acts. And I won't. Don't like it? Sin Loi Victor Charlie.

YOu are welcome to claim that they are unconstitutional. There has been no ruling to that effect.

And in fact, the baker has lost at every turn in our judicial system. They're down to their final chance as the U.S. Supreme Court has chosen to review their case.

And, if a person fails there \, they can employ passive resistance, civil disobedience; they can lobby to get the law changed. He might leave that state and go somewhere more suitable to his way of thinking. There are at least a dozen options.

Civil disobedience does not render a law unconstitutional. It merely protests a constitutional law. All laws are constitutional by default and remain so until ruled unconstitutional by our Judicial branch. The public accommodation laws that prevented the baker from discriminating against a gay couple are constitutional. The baker has so far lost in every court and has only one court remaining.

 

[Faun]

LOL

As if your delusions are real.

You should give it up. The posters here are kicking your ass back into the stone age.

What are you really getting out of this? The only rational explanation is that you are on the right and need to make talking points, so you push posters here as far as you can with easily dismissed drivel. We end up providing you with talking points you can use elsewhere.

It's the most bizarre thing I've ever seen.

I love that you went from arguing an actual point to accusations of trolling or questioning what they get out of posting (especially since you are doing the same thing).

I'm merely responding to a continuation of troll posts. Nothing more and certainly nothing less.

The points have been made - asked and answered. Ignoring what I've posted doesn't bolster any claims by those on your side. If your argument fails, it fails. And it failed. Those pushing your side's talking points have NO case. There is nothing more to be said.

Repeating your baseless opinion that Network Solutions' terms of service is an unconscionable contract is what fails. Your opinion is worthless and you've yet to offer anything whatsoever substantiate to demonstrate your point; which lies prostrate on the floor.

Try citing some case law instead of yourself.

You repeating the same shit over and over won't make it acceptable if a free society within our de jure / lawful constitutional Republic.

I'll keep repeating it until someone proves I'm wrong.

 

[Faun]

And you think this ... because ... ?

it's called reality you smug fuck.

LOL

As if your delusions are real.

You should give it up. The posters here are kicking your ass back into the stone age.

What are you really getting out of this? The only rational explanation is that you are on the right and need to make talking points, so you push posters here as far as you can with easily dismissed drivel. We end up providing you with talking points you can use elsewhere.

It's the most bizarre thing I've ever seen.

That you think I'm a) rightwing; b) getting my ass kicked; or c) should give up, reveals just how deluded you are.

That statement is an indictment exposing your ignorance. I'm not deluded into believing anything. If you're prodding me for an opinion about, I'd say you're a glutton for punishment. You continue to prattle on with the same point over and over and it has been responded to.

It seems to make you mad as Hell that the rest of the world don't walk, lockstep with your beliefs. Reality check: You're not God and you don't understand the difference between power and authority.

And yet, you're the one whining like a little bitch because Stormfront was taken down and the baker lost in court to a homosexual.

What do I have to be mad as hell at? Stormfront is gone (win for Liberals) and bakers who make wedding cakes can't hide behind their religion to discriminate against those they don't like (another win for Liberals).

 

[Faun]

They didn't discriminate against Stormfront. Stormfront violated Network Solutions' term of service.

Your atrocious reading skills negate any and all arguments you've made. It's already been stipulated to everything you've said.

The bottom line is, you've not responded to the points I made in my rebuttal. You can pretend, until Hell freezes over that no rebuttal was made... but it has been made. You can't respond to it because you got the shit kicked out of your weak and prejudicial argument.

The only weak ass argument on this thread is to admit you don't know if it's legal to discriminate against anyone via a contract. NOTHING has been addressed regarding violating a person's Rights via an adhesion contract. Go ahead an ignore the point. You don't understand the law and are too lazy to research it.

It's all good. You threw in the towel and you're the only one (other than one other troll) too dumb to realize it.

My reading skills are just fine. Network Solutions did not discriminate. Your tenacious whining doesn't change that. Pointing out their terms of service amounts to an adhesion contract is meaningless since such contracts are commonplace. You then extend your position of an adhesion contract to cross the crazy bridge to it being an "unconscionable contract" without offering a stitch of evidence other than to point out "adhesion contracts can become an unconscionable contract."

Hysterically, you then spike the ball as though you just scored when there was actually no gain on the play.

To score, you have to first prove the contract was unconscionable.

Denying people their Right to believe something as a prerequisite to doing business with them is unconscionable

No one is denying them their right to believe what they want. They don't have a right to inflict risk upon a company in violation of their terms of service.

Denying people some right they have under law as a prerequisite to doing business with them is unconscionable

That's nothing but your opinion. Proves nothing. Even worse, you're trying to deny Network Solutions their right to protect their own company from the liabilities they face from a customer using their service to promote violence.

Forcing someone to give up any Right under the Constitution as a prerequisite to doing business with them is unconscionable.

No matter how you spin your argument, you lose.

Keep telling yourself that, Spunky. Meanwhile, you have failed miserably to prove that Network Solutions' terms of service amounts to an unconscionable contract and Stormfront remains down.

YOU are the one who has spent this entire thread with the philosophical argument that private businesses cannot discriminate. OMG. Here we go again.

And I stand by that, even if you are too stupid to comprehend that.

Network Solutions did not discriminate.

 

[impuretrash]

What do I have to be mad as hell at? Stormfront is gone (win for Liberals) and bakers who make wedding cakes can't hide behind their religion to discriminate against those they don't like (another win for Liberals).

Censorship and state oppression is not a liberal ideal. Stop perverting words, call yourself something else.