White House Confirms It's Purging Disloyal Employees 'From the Bowels of the Federal Government

[Nostra]

Lol...why the fuck would anyone want a president that only wants yes men around him?

Who said anything about yes men?

Isn’t that what the Trump purge is all about. It is getting rid of those that don’t tow the Trump line without question. The Trump administration wants sycophants not truth tellers. Loyalist above all else is the prime qualification for a position with Trump.

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No..look at who Trump has appointed as director of personnel. A 29 year old whose name is Johnny McEntee whose sole job is to weed out those not suitably loyal to Trump.

What this kid, Johnny McEntee, really is is Trump’s equivalent of a Soviet commissar. He is in charge of political education and loyalty to the leader. Those not sufficiently loyal will be purged.

But hey live in your world of denial.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...0e6c56-54c1-11ea-b119-4faabac6674f_story.html

People confuse loyalty to the office of the president with loyalty to the person himself.

Yes you are very confused.

 

[JLW]

What is a Trumpist? Some who supports anything and everything Trump does, even it it's unethical. To sum it up - a Trumpist is someone who refers to lying as mere "literary license" when it comes out of Trump's mouth. Someone who suffers from Trump Derangement Syndrome.

We put up with the exact same thing for 8 years under Obama.

No they did not. Please post to an article where a Obama purged the intelligence community or hired an assistant whose sole job was to weed out those disloyal to Obama.

Eric Holder? LOL

Would Obama have cured the coronavirus?

Eric Holder????

Try again.

Obama would have handled this coronavirus crisis like he handled the Ebola crisis. With competence.

You mean he would appoint a lawyer to handle it again? lol idiot.

You’re a boob. This is the way you handle a health crisis.

The Obama Administration's Ebola Response

I posted a link for you because you are obviously too damn lazy to do any research. Now take your fat finger and press the link. You will learn something.

 

[eagle1462010]

How Bureaucracy Wars Against Americans' Control Of Their Government

Thwarting the Executive
Those who have sought to subvert and sideline the president within administrative institutions have more than crossed a red line. They are violating the consent of the governed. They are serving as a de facto check-and-balance without any such authority. They are eviscerating the last vestiges of constitutional government.

To describe such efforts as an attempted coup would be apt under Marini’s framework: Trump represented a potential regime change––closer to what the Founders envisioned––and the regime in power is doing everything it can to thwart him.

It is not the Deep State’s job to police a president because it disagrees with or is threatened by his policies. That power falls to the Congress as representatives of the people, and ultimately to the people themselves. The attempt to “Resist” by those tasked with ensuring our national security and conducting foreign affairs (areas in which the executive branch has significant latitude) represents an administrative state-driven constitutional crisis.

Governed Without Consent
The practical effect of the advent of the administrative state by progressives in the early 20th century, expanded under presidents Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Lyndon Baines Johnson, has been not only an ever-bigger government, but a government divorced from the people it exists to represent. We are increasingly governed without our consent. What of the branches of government that exist to represent us, and protect our rights?

As Marini puts it, Congress, “became, primarily, an administrative oversight body.” He continues, “To the extent that Congress is still tempted to make laws, it does so primarily on behalf of the expansion of the administrative state.” In other words, the legislative branch willfully gave up its primary power, to legislate, potentially unlawfully delegating power to federal agencies or punting it to the courts. Talk about a dereliction of duty.

 

[Bush92]

Trump...as usual...conflates loyalty to the country (or the office of the president) with loyalty to him, personally. Perhaps that should be fealty.

Can't recall this sort of things happening before. I wonder if this means combing Facebook and private lives?


White House Confirms It's Purging Disloyal Employees 'From the Bowels of the Federal Government'

The White House this week confirmed it is combing through federal agencies to identify employees not sufficiently loyal to President Trump to facilitate their ouster, sparking concerns the administration could run afoul of long-established civil service laws.

The administration is examining employees throughout the government to find anyone taking action officials decide represents an effort to undermine Trump, White House spokesman Hogan Gidley said on Fox News Monday. Gidley did not specifically mention career employees, who are statutorily protected against political retaliation, but did note the “millions” of individuals agencies employ. By contrast, there are only about 4,000 political appointees in government.

“It’s not a secret that we want people in positions that work with this president, not against him, and too often we have people in this government—I mean the federal government is massive, with millions of people—and there are a lot people out there taking action against this president and when we find them we will take appropriate action,” Gidley said.

His comments followed reports in Axios that the administration maintains “deep state” hit lists of employees to fire and the president has tasked the head of the Presidential Personnel Office, Johnny McEntee, to purge “bad people” who are not loyal to him. The latter report mentioned only political appointees, who serve at the pleasure of the president and can be dismissed at will, but Gidley’s comments this week appeared to go further.

“Time and time again we see in the media reports from people in the bowels of the federal government working against this president,” he said.

Gidley added that unelected federal workers were pushing “their own selfish political agenda” rather than advancing and executing Trump’s.

The latest comments do not mark the first time the Trump administration has stretched the limits of what is allowable under civil service protections. The number of federal employees proving their agencies took prohibited personnel practices against them reached an all-time high in Trump’s first year in office, according to the Office of Special Counsel. The State Department’s inspector general released two reports this year finding that the department illegally engaged in the political targeting of career employees. Federal law prohibits agencies from discriminating against any employee on the basis of political affiliation, or for any federal official to “coerce any applicant or employee to engage in political activity, or to retaliate against such individuals based on partisan politics.”

That has been the trend throughout history with most Presidents of the United States. If you have a vision for the the Repubic then naturally you want loyalist to your vision and people with confidence in you, within government to carry this out. Your whole initial thesis is off track and misguided by your partisan beliefs. When Trump is elected for another four years I can predict you will blame the voters because they are just not as intelligent and smart as intellectual liberals.

 

[Natural Citizen]

What is defined as "undermining" Trump? Who defines it? Is a attending a climate change rally in your private life "undermining" Trump?

Interestingly, this is the precise kind of information Congress has left wide open for the intelligence agencies to arbitrarily add onto that biometric national ID at any time they wish that everyone was hoots and giggles about last night.

But I digress.

 

[JGalt]

Once again.....

Truman orders loyalty checks of federal employees

"In response to public fears and Congressional investigations into communism in the United States, President Harry S. Truman issues an executive decree establishing a sweeping loyalty investigation of federal employees..."

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/truman-orders-loyalty-checks-of-federal-employees

So it's been a long long time. That was a very disturbing thing as well BUT - it wasn't loyalty to TRUMAN, was it?

Trump is demanding loyalty to him.

Truman's loyalty check order was mainly to root out communists. But an employee who is not loyal to the President is a security risk.

President Eisenhower changed Truman's order to include other security risks:

"Previously, the criteria used to define a security risk were largely political, that is, affiliation with suspect organizations or a clear demonstration of disloyalty. Executive Order 10450 added more general estimations of character, stability, and reliability. Its language was broad: "Any criminal, infamous, dishonest, immoral, or notoriously disgraceful conduct, habitual use of intoxicants to excess, drug addiction, or sexual perversion." At the same time, the executive order's provisions contained advice on evaluating character problems, as in its provision that the medical valuation of a psychological problem should show "due regard to the transient or continuing effect of the illness."

Executive Order 10450 - Wikipedia

 

[Olde Europe]

Replacing Comey, in the middle of an investigation like that - was dicey and at best looked very bad.

I actually didn't realize, until fairly recently, that attorneys were also appointed, like diplomats, and a host of others - so I don't have an issue with those.

Every interference into the workings of the judicial system is dicey. While nominally the executive can hire and fire attorneys general (appointees) at will, there are customary limits integrity doesn't permit to cross - see, for instance.

 

[Nostra]

Government employees need to be loyal to the USA, not loyal to an orange buffoon.

Hey fuckwit, if you are part of the Executive Branch working to actively undermine the President and you get fired, you have no reason to cry.

If you want to undermine Trump, leave your position and go campaign for Commie Bernie and the Dimsocialist party.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You STILL haven't answered his question. You're better and smarter than that, Coyote.

What is a Trumpist? Some who supports anything and everything Trump does, even it it's unethical. To sum it up - a Trumpist is someone who refers to lying as mere "literary license" when it comes out of Trump's mouth. Someone who suffers from Trump Derangement Syndrome.

We put up with the exact same thing for 8 years under Obama.

No they did not. Please post to an article where a Obama purged the intelligence community or hired an assistant whose sole job was to weed out those disloyal to Obama.

Eric Holder? LOL

Would Obama have cured the coronavirus?

Eric Holder????

Try again.

Obama would have handled this coronavirus crisis like he handled the Ebola crisis. With competence.

Exactly how. The two situations are distinctly disparate.

 

[anynameyouwish]

Why the fuck would anyone want people on the team who are working against and undermining you?

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"Why the fuck would anyone want people on the team who are working against and undermining you?"


no one.

but if people lose their jobs NOT BECAUSE they are "undermining" him but, rather, simply because they are FOLLOWING the constitution and the law......then we h ave a problem.


the fact that it doesn't bother you that a mere president has the audacity to demand loyalty to HIM and NOT to
1. the people
2. the country
3. the law
4. the constitution

proves you are NOT a "real" American.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

We live in a sad time

Yeah, how dare Trump purge people actively undermining him and his agenda.

The nerve!

Grow the fuck up, asshat.

love the maturity level of the Trumpists!

Loyalty tests and political purges....not surprising you support them.

I ask again. What is a “Trumpist”? Someone who disagrees with you? The WH has had nonstop leaks and distractions. Barr is not a “yes man” he is still there. How do you explain that?

tRumpling tRumpkin tRumpbot tRumper tRumptard.....

You get the picture I'm sure.

Yes, that persons who state those statements are deranged Leftists.

 

[JGalt]

Government employees need to be loyal to the USA, not loyal to an orange buffoon.

Why not? Harry Truman did it.

Truman orders loyalty checks of federal employees

"In response to public fears and Congressional investigations into communism in the United States, President Harry S. Truman issues an executive decree establishing a sweeping loyalty investigation of federal employees..."

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/truman-orders-loyalty-checks-of-federal-employees

Lol..Truman was concerned about loyalty to Country; Trump is concerned about loyalty to himself and only himself.

See the difference.

Loyalty to Trump also infers loyalty to Trump's boss, Putin.

Oh stop it already. Do you have any idea how childish and ignorant you sound when you spout stupidity like that?

If you actually believe that, you need some sort of psychological counseling.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

We put up with the exact same thing for 8 years under Obama.

No they did not. Please post to an article where a Obama purged the intelligence community or hired an assistant whose sole job was to weed out those disloyal to Obama.

Eric Holder? LOL

Would Obama have cured the coronavirus?

Eric Holder????

Try again.

Obama would have handled this crisis like he did with Obama. With competence,

Well except for the fact that Holder ignored the Congress and even after being censured did not turn over what was ordered. As I recall you all tried to Impeach Trump for demanding a day in Court.

As I recall, that was not why he was impeached. Let's try to be accurate.

He was impeached for winning the 2016 election and being the fave to win the 2020 election.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Why the fuck would anyone want people on the team who are working against and undermining you?

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Lol...why the fuck would anyone want a president that only wants yes men around him?

Who said anything about yes men?

Trump's definition of disloyal is anyone that dares to disagree with him.

 

[Nostra]

We put up with the exact same thing for 8 years under Obama.

No they did not. Please post to an article where a Obama purged the intelligence community or hired an assistant whose sole job was to weed out those disloyal to Obama.

Eric Holder? LOL

Would Obama have cured the coronavirus?

Eric Holder????

Try again.

Obama would have handled this coronavirus crisis like he handled the Ebola crisis. With competence.

You mean he would appoint a lawyer to handle it again? lol idiot.

You’re a boob. This is the way you handle a health crisis.

The Obama Administration's Ebola Response

I posted a link for you because you are obviously too damn lazy to do any research. Now take your fat finger and press the link. You will learn something.

Are you equating a virus that requires the exchange of bodily fluids with something that can be spread by a sneeze?

Which do you think would be easier to contain, idiot?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

No they did not. Please post to an article where a Obama purged the intelligence community or hired an assistant whose sole job was to weed out those disloyal to Obama.

Eric Holder? LOL

Would Obama have cured the coronavirus?

Eric Holder????

Try again.

Obama would have handled this coronavirus crisis like he handled the Ebola crisis. With competence.

You mean he would appoint a lawyer to handle it again? lol idiot.

You’re a boob. This is the way you handle a health crisis.

The Obama Administration's Ebola Response

I posted a link for you because you are obviously too damn lazy to do any research. Now take your fat finger and press the link. You will learn something.

Are you equating a virus that requires the exchange of bodily fluids with something that can be spread by a sneeze?

Which do you think would be easier to contain, idiot?

Exactly. As I explained to John, Jesus himself could not calm the masses. This is basically the Spanish Flu part 2. We are more advanced now so hopefully we find a vaccine soon.

 

[Nostra]

We put up with the exact same thing for 8 years under Obama.

No they did not. Please post to an article where a Obama purged the intelligence community or hired an assistant whose sole job was to weed out those disloyal to Obama.

Eric Holder? LOL

Would Obama have cured the coronavirus?

Eric Holder????

Try again.

Obama would have handled this crisis like he did with Obama. With competence,

Well except for the fact that Holder ignored the Congress and even after being censured did not turn over what was ordered. As I recall you all tried to Impeach Trump for demanding a day in Court.

As I recall, that was not why he was impeached. Let's try to be accurate.

Correct. Trump was impeached because your butthurt handlers never accepted the results of the 2016 election.

Glad we could finally agree on something.

 

[JLW]

No they did not. Please post to an article where a Obama purged the intelligence community or hired an assistant whose sole job was to weed out those disloyal to Obama.

Eric Holder? LOL

Would Obama have cured the coronavirus?

Eric Holder????

Try again.

Obama would have handled this coronavirus crisis like he handled the Ebola crisis. With competence.

You mean he would appoint a lawyer to handle it again? lol idiot.

You’re a boob. This is the way you handle a health crisis.

The Obama Administration's Ebola Response

I posted a link for you because you are obviously too damn lazy to do any research. Now take your fat finger and press the link. You will learn something.

Are you equating a virus that requires the exchange of bodily fluids with something that can be spread by a sneeze?

Which do you think would be easier to contain, idiot?

I am comparing the responses moron.

 

[SAYIT]

Trump...as usual...conflates loyalty to the country (or the office of the president) with loyalty to him, personally. Perhaps that should be fealty.
Can't recall this sort of things happening before. I wonder if this means combing Facebook and private lives?

White House Confirms It's Purging Disloyal Employees 'From the Bowels of the Federal Government'

I can't recall so bloated a WashDC swamp nor one so filled with self-serving traitors seeking book deals. It desperately needs to be drained.

 

[Nostra]

We put up with the exact same thing for 8 years under Obama.

No they did not. Please post to an article where Obama purged the intelligence community or hired an assistant whose sole job was to weed out those disloyal to Obama.

Not intel.......but here's something for you.
Obama to replace U.S. Attorneys

President Barack Obama plans to replace a "batch" of U.S. Attorneys in the next few weeks and more prosecutors thereafter, according to Attorney General Eric Holder.

"I expect that we’ll have an announcement in the next couple of weeks with regard to our first batch of U.S attorneys," Holder said Thursday during a House Judiciary Committee hearing which stretched out over most of the day due to breaks for members' votes. "One of the things that we didn’t want to do was to disrupt the continuity of the offices and pull people out of positions where we thought there might be a danger that that might have on the continuity--the effectiveness of the offices.But...elections matter--it is our intention to have the U.S. Attorneys that are selected by President Obama in place as quickly as they can."

However, by using terms like "elections matter," Holder seems to be signaling that Obama plans to install new leadership in most offices.

And these are appointed by the president - right?

Ya he is wrong on that one any appointed position is free for the President to remove any time for no reason or any reason at all. But as I recall you all whined about AG's and Comey.

Replacing Comey, in the middle of an investigation like that - was dicey and at best looked very bad.

I actually didn't realize, until fairly recently, that attorneys were also appointed, like diplomats, and a host of others - so I don't have an issue with those.

As it turns out, Trump was 100% correct in firing the corrupt, perjuring fuckwit Comey.