White house to working class Americans pay astromical deductibles- or Else...

Blaming ACA because your insurance company is screwing you is stupid.
You got the stupid part right but you need to look in a mirror to find an accurate target for that insult

ACA is billing you, or is the insurance company billing you?

Insurance company... I already had insurance, had it my entire life. Only now I'm paying 3X as much for a fraction of the coverage I had plus till paying to cover the people that don't have it.

Great work.... fuck the middle class again.
 
Blaming ACA because your insurance company is screwing you is stupid.


We used to have a choice remember?

The choice was to have medical insurance or live off taxpayers when you get sick.

So now us who had insurance are getting fucked. Whats the difference? Now I'm as a taxpayer still funding people who don't have insurance and getting fucked on premiums and coverage.

You people are dumber than a bag of broken doorknobs.

Or Republicans could have put a cost maximum on policies when they had a chance. But that's not their plan.
 
Blaming ACA because your insurance company is screwing you is stupid.


We used to have a choice remember?

The choice was to have medical insurance or live off taxpayers when you get sick.

So now us who had insurance are getting fucked. Whats the difference? Now I'm as a taxpayer still funding people who don't have insurance and getting fucked on premiums and coverage.

You people are dumber than a bag of broken doorknobs.

Or Republicans could have put a cost maximum on policies when they had a chance. But that's not their plan.

Oh yeah, price controls, that's the ticket. Like I said, you need an econ 101 class kid.
 
Not to mention we're now going to be taxed on employer provided insurance. You people are fucking worthless scum.

If an employer pays the cost of an accident or health insurance plan for his/her employees, including an employee's spouse and dependents, the employer's payments are not wages and are not subject to Social Security, Medicare, and FUTA taxes, or federal income tax withholding.May 4, 2016
Employee Benefits - IRS.gov
https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small...self.../employee-benefitsInternal Revenue Service
 
Blaming ACA because your insurance company is screwing you is stupid.


We used to have a choice remember?

The choice was to have medical insurance or live off taxpayers when you get sick.

So now us who had insurance are getting fucked. Whats the difference? Now I'm as a taxpayer still funding people who don't have insurance and getting fucked on premiums and coverage.

You people are dumber than a bag of broken doorknobs.

Or Republicans could have put a cost maximum on policies when they had a chance. But that's not their plan.

Oh yeah, price controls, that's the ticket. Like I said, you need an econ 101 class kid.

It wouldn't have worked?
 
Not to mention we're now going to be taxed on employer provided insurance. You people are fucking worthless scum.

If an employer pays the cost of an accident or health insurance plan for his/her employees, including an employee's spouse and dependents, the employer's payments are not wages and are not subject to Social Security, Medicare, and FUTA taxes, or federal income tax withholding.May 4, 2016
Employee Benefits - IRS.gov
https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small...self.../employee-benefitsInternal Revenue Service

They will be... there is no other reason for having to report the $$ amount of employer paid premiums which is a new requirement under the ACA..
 
Not to mention we're now going to be taxed on employer provided insurance. You people are fucking worthless scum.

If an employer pays the cost of an accident or health insurance plan for his/her employees, including an employee's spouse and dependents, the employer's payments are not wages and are not subject to Social Security, Medicare, and FUTA taxes, or federal income tax withholding.May 4, 2016
Employee Benefits - IRS.gov
https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small...self.../employee-benefitsInternal Revenue Service

They will be... there is no other reason for having to report the $$ amount of employer paid premiums which is a new requirement under the ACA..

The sky is falling!!!!
 
We used to have a choice remember?

The choice was to have medical insurance or live off taxpayers when you get sick.

So now us who had insurance are getting fucked. Whats the difference? Now I'm as a taxpayer still funding people who don't have insurance and getting fucked on premiums and coverage.

You people are dumber than a bag of broken doorknobs.

Or Republicans could have put a cost maximum on policies when they had a chance. But that's not their plan.

Oh yeah, price controls, that's the ticket. Like I said, you need an econ 101 class kid.

It wouldn't have worked?

No... let's say premiums are limited to say $300/month. Guess what? Your OOP will now be $50,000 and lifetime max will be half. You can't mandate an insurance company be liable for unlimited exposure but limit them to minimum income. It is untenable.
 
Not to mention we're now going to be taxed on employer provided insurance. You people are fucking worthless scum.

If an employer pays the cost of an accident or health insurance plan for his/her employees, including an employee's spouse and dependents, the employer's payments are not wages and are not subject to Social Security, Medicare, and FUTA taxes, or federal income tax withholding.May 4, 2016
Employee Benefits - IRS.gov
https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small...self.../employee-benefitsInternal Revenue Service

They will be... there is no other reason for having to report the $$ amount of employer paid premiums which is a new requirement under the ACA..

The sky is falling!!!!

No, you're just ignorant.
 
Blaming ACA because your insurance company is screwing you is stupid.


We used to have a choice remember?

The choice was to have medical insurance or live off taxpayers when you get sick.

So now us who had insurance are getting fucked. Whats the difference? Now I'm as a taxpayer still funding people who don't have insurance and getting fucked on premiums and coverage.

You people are dumber than a bag of broken doorknobs.

Or Republicans could have put a cost maximum on policies when they had a chance. But that's not their plan.

Republicans were completely shut out of the process when Obamacare was passed by a Democrat congress without a single Republican vote.
 
Not to mention we're now going to be taxed on employer provided insurance. You people are fucking worthless scum.

If an employer pays the cost of an accident or health insurance plan for his/her employees, including an employee's spouse and dependents, the employer's payments are not wages and are not subject to Social Security, Medicare, and FUTA taxes, or federal income tax withholding.May 4, 2016
Employee Benefits - IRS.gov
https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small...self.../employee-benefitsInternal Revenue Service

They will be... there is no other reason for having to report the $$ amount of employer paid premiums which is a new requirement under the ACA..

The sky is falling!!!!
Naw, just the ACA
 
Not to mention we're now going to be taxed on employer provided insurance. You people are fucking worthless scum.

If an employer pays the cost of an accident or health insurance plan for his/her employees, including an employee's spouse and dependents, the employer's payments are not wages and are not subject to Social Security, Medicare, and FUTA taxes, or federal income tax withholding.May 4, 2016
Employee Benefits - IRS.gov
https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small...self.../employee-benefitsInternal Revenue Service

They will be... there is no other reason for having to report the $$ amount of employer paid premiums which is a new requirement under the ACA..

The sky is falling!!!!
Naw, just the ACA

The ACA will collapse under it's own weight for sure. It is already happening.
 
The choice was to have medical insurance or live off taxpayers when you get sick.

So now us who had insurance are getting fucked. Whats the difference? Now I'm as a taxpayer still funding people who don't have insurance and getting fucked on premiums and coverage.

You people are dumber than a bag of broken doorknobs.

Or Republicans could have put a cost maximum on policies when they had a chance. But that's not their plan.

Oh yeah, price controls, that's the ticket. Like I said, you need an econ 101 class kid.

It wouldn't have worked?

No... let's say premiums are limited to say $300/month. Guess what? Your OOP will now be $50,000 and lifetime max will be half. You can't mandate an insurance company be liable for unlimited exposure but limit them to minimum income. It is untenable.

I never wrote minimum income, I wrote a maximum amount that can be charged.

Also, since BushCo blindly certified acquisitions, most of the hospitals and Doctors, er, healthcare providers are owned by insurance companies bring their costs to effective levels.
 
Not to mention we're now going to be taxed on employer provided insurance. You people are fucking worthless scum.

If an employer pays the cost of an accident or health insurance plan for his/her employees, including an employee's spouse and dependents, the employer's payments are not wages and are not subject to Social Security, Medicare, and FUTA taxes, or federal income tax withholding.May 4, 2016
Employee Benefits - IRS.gov
https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small...self.../employee-benefitsInternal Revenue Service

They will be... there is no other reason for having to report the $$ amount of employer paid premiums which is a new requirement under the ACA..

The sky is falling!!!!

No, you're just ignorant.

No, I'm smart.
 
So now us who had insurance are getting fucked. Whats the difference? Now I'm as a taxpayer still funding people who don't have insurance and getting fucked on premiums and coverage.

You people are dumber than a bag of broken doorknobs.

Or Republicans could have put a cost maximum on policies when they had a chance. But that's not their plan.

Oh yeah, price controls, that's the ticket. Like I said, you need an econ 101 class kid.

It wouldn't have worked?

No... let's say premiums are limited to say $300/month. Guess what? Your OOP will now be $50,000 and lifetime max will be half. You can't mandate an insurance company be liable for unlimited exposure but limit them to minimum income. It is untenable.

I never wrote minimum income, I wrote a maximum amount that can be charged.

Also, since BushCo blindly certified acquisitions, most of the hospitals and Doctors, er, healthcare providers are owned by insurance companies bring their costs to effective levels.

Whats the difference? Are you really saying you don;t want to limit revenue, just what they can charge? Seriously?
 
Blaming ACA because your insurance company is screwing you is stupid.


We used to have a choice remember?

The choice was to have medical insurance or live off taxpayers when you get sick.

So now us who had insurance are getting fucked. Whats the difference? Now I'm as a taxpayer still funding people who don't have insurance and getting fucked on premiums and coverage.

You people are dumber than a bag of broken doorknobs.

Or Republicans could have put a cost maximum on policies when they had a chance. But that's not their plan.

Republicans were completely shut out of the process when Obamacare was passed by a Democrat congress without a single Republican vote.

The Heritage Foundation wrote ACA, of which Hatch, Grassley, and Gingrich were proponents.

Nixon had his own version of ACA.

What we really need to do is go single payer.
 
Not to mention we're now going to be taxed on employer provided insurance. You people are fucking worthless scum.

If an employer pays the cost of an accident or health insurance plan for his/her employees, including an employee's spouse and dependents, the employer's payments are not wages and are not subject to Social Security, Medicare, and FUTA taxes, or federal income tax withholding.May 4, 2016
Employee Benefits - IRS.gov
https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small...self.../employee-benefitsInternal Revenue Service

They will be... there is no other reason for having to report the $$ amount of employer paid premiums which is a new requirement under the ACA..

The sky is falling!!!!

No, you're just ignorant.

No, I'm smart.

There's a difference.
 

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