‘White Privilege’: Libs Erupt as Tebow Gets Second NFL Chance While Kaepernick Remains Sidelined

The real problem with Kaepernick is that he is boring, not that he insists on taking a knee and protesting against our country.

People are just bored with his schtick.

Kaep really needs to do one of two things- double down on his hatred of vets by waving a Cuban Flag and insisting the people stand at attention before games while he sings "La Internationale" to stir people up.

Or alternatively, Kaep could do a face turn and become super-patriotic. Wave a flag, sponsor a team for NASCAR, hobnob with Hank Jr., join the NRA, wear a MAGA hat. People love a "prodigal son " story about someone who saw the error of their ways.
 
Actually, I'm with the Founding Fathers on this one, who stated we should have separation of Church and State, something lost on the fanatics like Tebow
First...you're with one Founding Fathers opinion...in a letter...to a friend.

Second...football ain't the state...it's a game. If you don't like Tim using his platform to amplify his opinion...I'm sure you're anti- Kaepernic using his fame and platform as well...and all the Hollywood celebs...

You oppose all of that...correct?
 
Gee, a guy with character versus a feral animal that encourages murdering cops; what an insult to Democrats. Gestapo Garland just has to do something about this, and soon.
Encourages murdering cops? Got a link to that or are you talking about the crazies who beat up 130 cops at the Trump riot?
Trump riot? You’re an idiot, cnn is proud of you. Biden's America is off to a bad start. Trump 2024, make America great again!
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Liberals don’t dislike Tebow. That’s some right wing super snowflake shit. People pointed out Tebows knee was treated different from Kapernick’s knee. Tebow is a solid guy and as a liberal I’m a fan. He can be wrong about abortion like many others but he does solid charity work and is genuinely a very nice guy. Wear your religion on your sleeve all you want. Doesn’t bother liberals as long as you don’t use the government to push your views. He ain’t in government.
well it was different...Tebow wasn't taking a knee during the national anthem.
Tim Tebow has never been a target of racism, police brutality, etc. either.


Tebow has been brutally attacked for his Christian faith, persecuted by the NFL for wearing bible verses on his face as well as kneeling (which they ok'ed when Kaepernick did it) That's racism.
Give me a break, Tebow has never been a victim of racism.
no it’s religious bigotry...certainly can be just as bad as racism

remember the dems used their klan to attack jews and catholics too
Religious bigotry, give me a break. He was criticized because he stunk as a quarterback and he has never played TE. Tell you what let's see what happens when he gets on the line with those big boys up front.
Nope...it was his faith....https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/2016/july/tim-tebow-blasted-for-praying-for-dying-man-on-plane

Tim Tebow Blasted for Praying for Dying Man on Plane​



In Tebow Debate, a Clash of Faith and Football​




Tim Tebow Rule: The NCAA Bans Eye Black "Messages"​


He was praised as a player...because he was good:

"
Tim Tebow is legitimately a leader of men and at this point of the season, with only four regular-season games remaining, Tebow is the NFL MVP.

The criticism surrounding Tebow is deafening—his mechanics stink, he runs a high school offense, he must learn how to pass the ball better to succeed in the NFL—but Tebow doesn't hear all that noise; he just keeps confidently controlling NFL contests in crunch time."

Is that why he hasn't been in the league since 2012, because he is such a tremendous player. Helluva player.



Tebow has been involved in other projects since leaving the NFL.

In any event, Coach Meyer saw his tryout and was impressed with the Christian gridironer's abilities as well as attitude.

The city of Jacksonville has a large number of Christians, and signing Tebow will be a good move to get interest among this group.

So it was a PR move. Oh



Public Relations is a huge part of professional sports, you know.

Its not nearly enough to be a tremendous athlete, the fans have to give a shit about you too.

Put a whole team together of Born Agains like Tebow and a decent college team would kick their ass.

It’s about talent dummy

Kaepernick's talent level is basically a decent backup QB. He's not good enough to be a starter, but that's what he has insisted on being.

Interesting. Can you quote him saying he would only take a job as a starter?


While Kaepernick hasn't necessarily said he would only accept being a starter, his salary demands make that the only logical outcome. You don't typically pay a backup 9 to 10 million dollars for a single season.

Do you think Alex Smith was worth 16 million?

No question. Number 1 overall pick....lead the Niners to the first NFC Championship game in over a decade, after being traded to KC, for CK, he lead KC to 4 playoffs berths, including winning their first postseason win since 1993, and leading the league in passing rating in the 2017 season, setting up what has become a powerhouse program....and then obviously the horrible even that took place in Washington....which was then capped off last year with an amazing comeback, and beoming the Come Back Player of the Year, and leading Washington to the NFC East title.

So was he worth 16 million last year, also he was replaced by Kap in SF and that team went to the Super Bowl. KC won a Superbowl after he was replaced. I noticed you left that out.

He didn't get paid 16 million just last year.

He was worth every penny he did earn over his career though. A far better QB then Kap...not doubt about that


He was decent, but funny how his teams went to the Superbowl after he was gone.

that was part of a larger contract, and obligations from contracts they took over

not really a surprise, be built great programs because he’s a great qb

A great QB who ain't never win shit.

Well not a Super Bowl, but as a highlighted...he has won other championships.


What,? The Turkey Bowl.
Kind of a modern day Dan Marino...but frankly, came back from nearly getting his leg cut off completely, literally....he actually showed more heart then Dan or frankly, any pro-athlete I've seen.

He has never been.on the level of Dan Marino.
[Quoye]He could have just taken his money, and s

1) I don't think Alex Smith is the type of person to go around bragging about anything. Winners don't brag. I mean, if anything he could also brag about being a 3x Pro-Bowler as well...but why? But remind me, how many Super Bowls, or major bowls has Kal won? and Pro-Bowls?
2) I am not bragging at all...just stating facts.
3) Sure...I like to base mine on evidence though...you don't.

Don't run from the question. Which is bigger a conference championship or a division championship.

What NFL records does Kap hold?

oh a conference for sure....I think Kap has one, in 2012, the year that he came in after Alex got hurt...on Alex's team.

I think Kap has one record for most rushing yards in a game by a qb.

Yep...Kap had one solid year. Alex, has years of top notch playing. After 2012, after Alex left the 49ers...the team fell apart....2014 8-8 season, 2015...he lost his starting position...to Blaine Gabbert!

Hey, but he had one flash in the pan season, on Alex's team

So why did they give Alex the boot?

From SF? He got hurt...that's why Kap came in during the 2012 season. He gave them 7 seasons. They thought he was done....boy were they wrong, he was a pro-bowler in 2013, and the Chiefs were the last unbeaten team in the 2013 NFL season with Smith winning his first nine regular-season starts, gaining 1,919 passing yards with nine touchdowns compared to four interception, he went on to help create the KC team that we know today, bring it from the land of the lost, to one of the best programs in the NFL...SF made a horrible choice with Kap, they ended up canning him in couple seasons.

Yep and then he was cut and KC won the Superbowl. Amazing how that works.

not really. it was his team, his leadership. What’s not amazing is how fast the team fell apart when Kal became the main guy.
]

They fell into the Super Bowl WITHOUT him on the field. Kap was balling, it was a close game. KC won a Superbowl AFTER he was gone, was that his team as well

yea Kap had a great game

One and done kind of guy.

Smith like Marino are just iron men that perform over and over

Smith was on multiple teams that only excelled to the top AFTER he was gone. He is no Dan Marino, not even close.

no he got them to the top snd made them a contender.

i highlighted his record.
i am certainly not suggesting he’s a GOAT, but he was a great QB, far better the Kap.

He was a decent QB, But he wasn't leading anyone to a Superbowl

sure, he lead numerous teams over the years. He didn’t fill in on a team and have one decent losing game in his career

He didn't lead them to a Superbowl.

didn’t they make it to the super bowl in 2012?. who started at an on opening day?

had he been under center in the super bowl they would have won

Based on what exactly?
 
Gee, a guy with character versus a feral animal that encourages murdering cops; what an insult to Democrats. Gestapo Garland just has to do something about this, and soon.
Encourages murdering cops? Got a link to that or are you talking about the crazies who beat up 130 cops at the Trump riot?
Trump riot? You’re an idiot, cnn is proud of you. Biden's America is off to a bad start. Trump 2024, make America great again!
9
Liberals don’t dislike Tebow. That’s some right wing super snowflake shit. People pointed out Tebows knee was treated different from Kapernick’s knee. Tebow is a solid guy and as a liberal I’m a fan. He can be wrong about abortion like many others but he does solid charity work and is genuinely a very nice guy. Wear your religion on your sleeve all you want. Doesn’t bother liberals as long as you don’t use the government to push your views. He ain’t in government.
well it was different...Tebow wasn't taking a knee during the national anthem.
Tim Tebow has never been a target of racism, police brutality, etc. either.


Tebow has been brutally attacked for his Christian faith, persecuted by the NFL for wearing bible verses on his face as well as kneeling (which they ok'ed when Kaepernick did it) That's racism.
Give me a break, Tebow has never been a victim of racism.
no it’s religious bigotry...certainly can be just as bad as racism

remember the dems used their klan to attack jews and catholics too
Religious bigotry, give me a break. He was criticized because he stunk as a quarterback and he has never played TE. Tell you what let's see what happens when he gets on the line with those big boys up front.
Nope...it was his faith....https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/2016/july/tim-tebow-blasted-for-praying-for-dying-man-on-plane

Tim Tebow Blasted for Praying for Dying Man on Plane​



In Tebow Debate, a Clash of Faith and Football​




Tim Tebow Rule: The NCAA Bans Eye Black "Messages"​


He was praised as a player...because he was good:

"
Tim Tebow is legitimately a leader of men and at this point of the season, with only four regular-season games remaining, Tebow is the NFL MVP.

The criticism surrounding Tebow is deafening—his mechanics stink, he runs a high school offense, he must learn how to pass the ball better to succeed in the NFL—but Tebow doesn't hear all that noise; he just keeps confidently controlling NFL contests in crunch time."

Is that why he hasn't been in the league since 2012, because he is such a tremendous player. Helluva player.



Tebow has been involved in other projects since leaving the NFL.

In any event, Coach Meyer saw his tryout and was impressed with the Christian gridironer's abilities as well as attitude.

The city of Jacksonville has a large number of Christians, and signing Tebow will be a good move to get interest among this group.

So it was a PR move. Oh



Public Relations is a huge part of professional sports, you know.

Its not nearly enough to be a tremendous athlete, the fans have to give a shit about you too.

Put a whole team together of Born Agains like Tebow and a decent college team would kick their ass.

It’s about talent dummy

Kaepernick's talent level is basically a decent backup QB. He's not good enough to be a starter, but that's what he has insisted on being.

Interesting. Can you quote him saying he would only take a job as a starter?


While Kaepernick hasn't necessarily said he would only accept being a starter, his salary demands make that the only logical outcome. You don't typically pay a backup 9 to 10 million dollars for a single season.

Do you think Alex Smith was worth 16 million?

No question. Number 1 overall pick....lead the Niners to the first NFC Championship game in over a decade, after being traded to KC, for CK, he lead KC to 4 playoffs berths, including winning their first postseason win since 1993, and leading the league in passing rating in the 2017 season, setting up what has become a powerhouse program....and then obviously the horrible even that took place in Washington....which was then capped off last year with an amazing comeback, and beoming the Come Back Player of the Year, and leading Washington to the NFC East title.

So was he worth 16 million last year, also he was replaced by Kap in SF and that team went to the Super Bowl. KC won a Superbowl after he was replaced. I noticed you left that out.

He didn't get paid 16 million just last year.

He was worth every penny he did earn over his career though. A far better QB then Kap...not doubt about that


He was decent, but funny how his teams went to the Superbowl after he was gone.

that was part of a larger contract, and obligations from contracts they took over

not really a surprise, be built great programs because he’s a great qb

A great QB who ain't never win shit.

Well not a Super Bowl, but as a highlighted...he has won other championships.


What,? The Turkey Bowl.
Kind of a modern day Dan Marino...but frankly, came back from nearly getting his leg cut off completely, literally....he actually showed more heart then Dan or frankly, any pro-athlete I've seen.

He has never been.on the level of Dan Marino.
[Quoye]He could have just taken his money, and s

1) I don't think Alex Smith is the type of person to go around bragging about anything. Winners don't brag. I mean, if anything he could also brag about being a 3x Pro-Bowler as well...but why? But remind me, how many Super Bowls, or major bowls has Kal won? and Pro-Bowls?
2) I am not bragging at all...just stating facts.
3) Sure...I like to base mine on evidence though...you don't.

Don't run from the question. Which is bigger a conference championship or a division championship.

What NFL records does Kap hold?

oh a conference for sure....I think Kap has one, in 2012, the year that he came in after Alex got hurt...on Alex's team.

I think Kap has one record for most rushing yards in a game by a qb.

Yep...Kap had one solid year. Alex, has years of top notch playing. After 2012, after Alex left the 49ers...the team fell apart....2014 8-8 season, 2015...he lost his starting position...to Blaine Gabbert!

Hey, but he had one flash in the pan season, on Alex's team

So why did they give Alex the boot?

From SF? He got hurt...that's why Kap came in during the 2012 season. He gave them 7 seasons. They thought he was done....boy were they wrong, he was a pro-bowler in 2013, and the Chiefs were the last unbeaten team in the 2013 NFL season with Smith winning his first nine regular-season starts, gaining 1,919 passing yards with nine touchdowns compared to four interception, he went on to help create the KC team that we know today, bring it from the land of the lost, to one of the best programs in the NFL...SF made a horrible choice with Kap, they ended up canning him in couple seasons.

Yep and then he was cut and KC won the Superbowl. Amazing how that works.

not really. it was his team, his leadership. What’s not amazing is how fast the team fell apart when Kal became the main guy.
]

They fell into the Super Bowl WITHOUT him on the field. Kap was balling, it was a close game. KC won a Superbowl AFTER he was gone, was that his team as well

yea Kap had a great game

One and done kind of guy.

Smith like Marino are just iron men that perform over and over

Smith was on multiple teams that only excelled to the top AFTER he was gone. He is no Dan Marino, not even close.

no he got them to the top snd made them a contender.

i highlighted his record.
i am certainly not suggesting he’s a GOAT, but he was a great QB, far better the Kap.

He was a decent QB, But he wasn't leading anyone to a Superbowl

sure, he lead numerous teams over the years. He didn’t fill in on a team and have one decent losing game in his career

He didn't lead them to a Superbowl.

didn’t they make it to the super bowl in 2012?. who started at an on opening day?

had he been under center in the super bowl they would have won

Based on what exactly?

What am I basing my conclusion on? The numerous pieces of evidence I already presented that shows he is a much much better player
 
Gee, a guy with character versus a feral animal that encourages murdering cops; what an insult to Democrats. Gestapo Garland just has to do something about this, and soon.
Encourages murdering cops? Got a link to that or are you talking about the crazies who beat up 130 cops at the Trump riot?
Trump riot? You’re an idiot, cnn is proud of you. Biden's America is off to a bad start. Trump 2024, make America great again!
9
Liberals don’t dislike Tebow. That’s some right wing super snowflake shit. People pointed out Tebows knee was treated different from Kapernick’s knee. Tebow is a solid guy and as a liberal I’m a fan. He can be wrong about abortion like many others but he does solid charity work and is genuinely a very nice guy. Wear your religion on your sleeve all you want. Doesn’t bother liberals as long as you don’t use the government to push your views. He ain’t in government.
well it was different...Tebow wasn't taking a knee during the national anthem.
Tim Tebow has never been a target of racism, police brutality, etc. either.


Tebow has been brutally attacked for his Christian faith, persecuted by the NFL for wearing bible verses on his face as well as kneeling (which they ok'ed when Kaepernick did it) That's racism.
Give me a break, Tebow has never been a victim of racism.
no it’s religious bigotry...certainly can be just as bad as racism

remember the dems used their klan to attack jews and catholics too
Religious bigotry, give me a break. He was criticized because he stunk as a quarterback and he has never played TE. Tell you what let's see what happens when he gets on the line with those big boys up front.
Nope...it was his faith....https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/2016/july/tim-tebow-blasted-for-praying-for-dying-man-on-plane

Tim Tebow Blasted for Praying for Dying Man on Plane​



In Tebow Debate, a Clash of Faith and Football​




Tim Tebow Rule: The NCAA Bans Eye Black "Messages"​


He was praised as a player...because he was good:

"
Tim Tebow is legitimately a leader of men and at this point of the season, with only four regular-season games remaining, Tebow is the NFL MVP.

The criticism surrounding Tebow is deafening—his mechanics stink, he runs a high school offense, he must learn how to pass the ball better to succeed in the NFL—but Tebow doesn't hear all that noise; he just keeps confidently controlling NFL contests in crunch time."

Is that why he hasn't been in the league since 2012, because he is such a tremendous player. Helluva player.



Tebow has been involved in other projects since leaving the NFL.

In any event, Coach Meyer saw his tryout and was impressed with the Christian gridironer's abilities as well as attitude.

The city of Jacksonville has a large number of Christians, and signing Tebow will be a good move to get interest among this group.

So it was a PR move. Oh



Public Relations is a huge part of professional sports, you know.

Its not nearly enough to be a tremendous athlete, the fans have to give a shit about you too.

Put a whole team together of Born Agains like Tebow and a decent college team would kick their ass.

It’s about talent dummy

Kaepernick's talent level is basically a decent backup QB. He's not good enough to be a starter, but that's what he has insisted on being.

Interesting. Can you quote him saying he would only take a job as a starter?


While Kaepernick hasn't necessarily said he would only accept being a starter, his salary demands make that the only logical outcome. You don't typically pay a backup 9 to 10 million dollars for a single season.

Do you think Alex Smith was worth 16 million?

No question. Number 1 overall pick....lead the Niners to the first NFC Championship game in over a decade, after being traded to KC, for CK, he lead KC to 4 playoffs berths, including winning their first postseason win since 1993, and leading the league in passing rating in the 2017 season, setting up what has become a powerhouse program....and then obviously the horrible even that took place in Washington....which was then capped off last year with an amazing comeback, and beoming the Come Back Player of the Year, and leading Washington to the NFC East title.

So was he worth 16 million last year, also he was replaced by Kap in SF and that team went to the Super Bowl. KC won a Superbowl after he was replaced. I noticed you left that out.

He didn't get paid 16 million just last year.

He was worth every penny he did earn over his career though. A far better QB then Kap...not doubt about that


He was decent, but funny how his teams went to the Superbowl after he was gone.

that was part of a larger contract, and obligations from contracts they took over

not really a surprise, be built great programs because he’s a great qb

A great QB who ain't never win shit.

Well not a Super Bowl, but as a highlighted...he has won other championships.


What,? The Turkey Bowl.
Kind of a modern day Dan Marino...but frankly, came back from nearly getting his leg cut off completely, literally....he actually showed more heart then Dan or frankly, any pro-athlete I've seen.

He has never been.on the level of Dan Marino.
[Quoye]He could have just taken his money, and s

1) I don't think Alex Smith is the type of person to go around bragging about anything. Winners don't brag. I mean, if anything he could also brag about being a 3x Pro-Bowler as well...but why? But remind me, how many Super Bowls, or major bowls has Kal won? and Pro-Bowls?
2) I am not bragging at all...just stating facts.
3) Sure...I like to base mine on evidence though...you don't.

Don't run from the question. Which is bigger a conference championship or a division championship.

What NFL records does Kap hold?

oh a conference for sure....I think Kap has one, in 2012, the year that he came in after Alex got hurt...on Alex's team.

I think Kap has one record for most rushing yards in a game by a qb.

Yep...Kap had one solid year. Alex, has years of top notch playing. After 2012, after Alex left the 49ers...the team fell apart....2014 8-8 season, 2015...he lost his starting position...to Blaine Gabbert!

Hey, but he had one flash in the pan season, on Alex's team

So why did they give Alex the boot?

From SF? He got hurt...that's why Kap came in during the 2012 season. He gave them 7 seasons. They thought he was done....boy were they wrong, he was a pro-bowler in 2013, and the Chiefs were the last unbeaten team in the 2013 NFL season with Smith winning his first nine regular-season starts, gaining 1,919 passing yards with nine touchdowns compared to four interception, he went on to help create the KC team that we know today, bring it from the land of the lost, to one of the best programs in the NFL...SF made a horrible choice with Kap, they ended up canning him in couple seasons.

Yep and then he was cut and KC won the Superbowl. Amazing how that works.

not really. it was his team, his leadership. What’s not amazing is how fast the team fell apart when Kal became the main guy.
]

They fell into the Super Bowl WITHOUT him on the field. Kap was balling, it was a close game. KC won a Superbowl AFTER he was gone, was that his team as well

yea Kap had a great game

One and done kind of guy.

Smith like Marino are just iron men that perform over and over

Smith was on multiple teams that only excelled to the top AFTER he was gone. He is no Dan Marino, not even close.

no he got them to the top snd made them a contender.

i highlighted his record.
i am certainly not suggesting he’s a GOAT, but he was a great QB, far better the Kap.

He was a decent QB, But he wasn't leading anyone to a Superbowl

sure, he lead numerous teams over the years. He didn’t fill in on a team and have one decent losing game in his career

He didn't lead them to a Superbowl.

didn’t they make it to the super bowl in 2012?. who started at an on opening day?

had he been under center in the super bowl they would have won

Based on what exactly?

What am I basing my conclusion on? The numerous pieces of evidence I already presented that shows he is a much much better player

You haven't presented anything really, one won a Conference Championship and took the team to the Superbowl, one won a division championship. On the other team couldn't win a Championship, gets cut and a young QB wins the Superbowl and goes to another one.
 
Gee, a guy with character versus a feral animal that encourages murdering cops; what an insult to Democrats. Gestapo Garland just has to do something about this, and soon.
Encourages murdering cops? Got a link to that or are you talking about the crazies who beat up 130 cops at the Trump riot?
Trump riot? You’re an idiot, cnn is proud of you. Biden's America is off to a bad start. Trump 2024, make America great again!
9
Liberals don’t dislike Tebow. That’s some right wing super snowflake shit. People pointed out Tebows knee was treated different from Kapernick’s knee. Tebow is a solid guy and as a liberal I’m a fan. He can be wrong about abortion like many others but he does solid charity work and is genuinely a very nice guy. Wear your religion on your sleeve all you want. Doesn’t bother liberals as long as you don’t use the government to push your views. He ain’t in government.
well it was different...Tebow wasn't taking a knee during the national anthem.
Tim Tebow has never been a target of racism, police brutality, etc. either.


Tebow has been brutally attacked for his Christian faith, persecuted by the NFL for wearing bible verses on his face as well as kneeling (which they ok'ed when Kaepernick did it) That's racism.
Give me a break, Tebow has never been a victim of racism.
no it’s religious bigotry...certainly can be just as bad as racism

remember the dems used their klan to attack jews and catholics too
Religious bigotry, give me a break. He was criticized because he stunk as a quarterback and he has never played TE. Tell you what let's see what happens when he gets on the line with those big boys up front.
Nope...it was his faith....https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/2016/july/tim-tebow-blasted-for-praying-for-dying-man-on-plane

Tim Tebow Blasted for Praying for Dying Man on Plane​



In Tebow Debate, a Clash of Faith and Football​




Tim Tebow Rule: The NCAA Bans Eye Black "Messages"​


He was praised as a player...because he was good:

"
Tim Tebow is legitimately a leader of men and at this point of the season, with only four regular-season games remaining, Tebow is the NFL MVP.

The criticism surrounding Tebow is deafening—his mechanics stink, he runs a high school offense, he must learn how to pass the ball better to succeed in the NFL—but Tebow doesn't hear all that noise; he just keeps confidently controlling NFL contests in crunch time."

Is that why he hasn't been in the league since 2012, because he is such a tremendous player. Helluva player.



Tebow has been involved in other projects since leaving the NFL.

In any event, Coach Meyer saw his tryout and was impressed with the Christian gridironer's abilities as well as attitude.

The city of Jacksonville has a large number of Christians, and signing Tebow will be a good move to get interest among this group.

So it was a PR move. Oh



Public Relations is a huge part of professional sports, you know.

Its not nearly enough to be a tremendous athlete, the fans have to give a shit about you too.

Put a whole team together of Born Agains like Tebow and a decent college team would kick their ass.

It’s about talent dummy

Kaepernick's talent level is basically a decent backup QB. He's not good enough to be a starter, but that's what he has insisted on being.

Interesting. Can you quote him saying he would only take a job as a starter?


While Kaepernick hasn't necessarily said he would only accept being a starter, his salary demands make that the only logical outcome. You don't typically pay a backup 9 to 10 million dollars for a single season.

Do you think Alex Smith was worth 16 million?

No question. Number 1 overall pick....lead the Niners to the first NFC Championship game in over a decade, after being traded to KC, for CK, he lead KC to 4 playoffs berths, including winning their first postseason win since 1993, and leading the league in passing rating in the 2017 season, setting up what has become a powerhouse program....and then obviously the horrible even that took place in Washington....which was then capped off last year with an amazing comeback, and beoming the Come Back Player of the Year, and leading Washington to the NFC East title.

So was he worth 16 million last year, also he was replaced by Kap in SF and that team went to the Super Bowl. KC won a Superbowl after he was replaced. I noticed you left that out.

He didn't get paid 16 million just last year.

He was worth every penny he did earn over his career though. A far better QB then Kap...not doubt about that


He was decent, but funny how his teams went to the Superbowl after he was gone.

that was part of a larger contract, and obligations from contracts they took over

not really a surprise, be built great programs because he’s a great qb

A great QB who ain't never win shit.

Well not a Super Bowl, but as a highlighted...he has won other championships.


What,? The Turkey Bowl.
Kind of a modern day Dan Marino...but frankly, came back from nearly getting his leg cut off completely, literally....he actually showed more heart then Dan or frankly, any pro-athlete I've seen.

He has never been.on the level of Dan Marino.
[Quoye]He could have just taken his money, and s

1) I don't think Alex Smith is the type of person to go around bragging about anything. Winners don't brag. I mean, if anything he could also brag about being a 3x Pro-Bowler as well...but why? But remind me, how many Super Bowls, or major bowls has Kal won? and Pro-Bowls?
2) I am not bragging at all...just stating facts.
3) Sure...I like to base mine on evidence though...you don't.

Don't run from the question. Which is bigger a conference championship or a division championship.

What NFL records does Kap hold?

oh a conference for sure....I think Kap has one, in 2012, the year that he came in after Alex got hurt...on Alex's team.

I think Kap has one record for most rushing yards in a game by a qb.

Yep...Kap had one solid year. Alex, has years of top notch playing. After 2012, after Alex left the 49ers...the team fell apart....2014 8-8 season, 2015...he lost his starting position...to Blaine Gabbert!

Hey, but he had one flash in the pan season, on Alex's team

So why did they give Alex the boot?

From SF? He got hurt...that's why Kap came in during the 2012 season. He gave them 7 seasons. They thought he was done....boy were they wrong, he was a pro-bowler in 2013, and the Chiefs were the last unbeaten team in the 2013 NFL season with Smith winning his first nine regular-season starts, gaining 1,919 passing yards with nine touchdowns compared to four interception, he went on to help create the KC team that we know today, bring it from the land of the lost, to one of the best programs in the NFL...SF made a horrible choice with Kap, they ended up canning him in couple seasons.

Yep and then he was cut and KC won the Superbowl. Amazing how that works.

not really. it was his team, his leadership. What’s not amazing is how fast the team fell apart when Kal became the main guy.
]

They fell into the Super Bowl WITHOUT him on the field. Kap was balling, it was a close game. KC won a Superbowl AFTER he was gone, was that his team as well

yea Kap had a great game

One and done kind of guy.

Smith like Marino are just iron men that perform over and over

Smith was on multiple teams that only excelled to the top AFTER he was gone. He is no Dan Marino, not even close.

no he got them to the top snd made them a contender.

i highlighted his record.
i am certainly not suggesting he’s a GOAT, but he was a great QB, far better the Kap.

He was a decent QB, But he wasn't leading anyone to a Superbowl

sure, he lead numerous teams over the years. He didn’t fill in on a team and have one decent losing game in his career

He didn't lead them to a Superbowl.

didn’t they make it to the super bowl in 2012?. who started at an on opening day?

had he been under center in the super bowl they would have won

Based on what exactly?

What am I basing my conclusion on? The numerous pieces of evidence I already presented that shows he is a much much better player

You haven't presented anything really, one won a Conference Championship and took the team to the Superbowl, one won a division championship. On the other team couldn't win a Championship, gets cut and a young QB wins the Superbowl and goes to another one.

oh so you didn’t read got ya

well that’s a problem
 
Gee, a guy with character versus a feral animal that encourages murdering cops; what an insult to Democrats. Gestapo Garland just has to do something about this, and soon.
Encourages murdering cops? Got a link to that or are you talking about the crazies who beat up 130 cops at the Trump riot?
Trump riot? You’re an idiot, cnn is proud of you. Biden's America is off to a bad start. Trump 2024, make America great again!
9
Liberals don’t dislike Tebow. That’s some right wing super snowflake shit. People pointed out Tebows knee was treated different from Kapernick’s knee. Tebow is a solid guy and as a liberal I’m a fan. He can be wrong about abortion like many others but he does solid charity work and is genuinely a very nice guy. Wear your religion on your sleeve all you want. Doesn’t bother liberals as long as you don’t use the government to push your views. He ain’t in government.
well it was different...Tebow wasn't taking a knee during the national anthem.
Tim Tebow has never been a target of racism, police brutality, etc. either.


Tebow has been brutally attacked for his Christian faith, persecuted by the NFL for wearing bible verses on his face as well as kneeling (which they ok'ed when Kaepernick did it) That's racism.
Give me a break, Tebow has never been a victim of racism.
no it’s religious bigotry...certainly can be just as bad as racism

remember the dems used their klan to attack jews and catholics too
Religious bigotry, give me a break. He was criticized because he stunk as a quarterback and he has never played TE. Tell you what let's see what happens when he gets on the line with those big boys up front.
Nope...it was his faith....https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/2016/july/tim-tebow-blasted-for-praying-for-dying-man-on-plane

Tim Tebow Blasted for Praying for Dying Man on Plane​



In Tebow Debate, a Clash of Faith and Football​




Tim Tebow Rule: The NCAA Bans Eye Black "Messages"​


He was praised as a player...because he was good:

"
Tim Tebow is legitimately a leader of men and at this point of the season, with only four regular-season games remaining, Tebow is the NFL MVP.

The criticism surrounding Tebow is deafening—his mechanics stink, he runs a high school offense, he must learn how to pass the ball better to succeed in the NFL—but Tebow doesn't hear all that noise; he just keeps confidently controlling NFL contests in crunch time."

Is that why he hasn't been in the league since 2012, because he is such a tremendous player. Helluva player.



Tebow has been involved in other projects since leaving the NFL.

In any event, Coach Meyer saw his tryout and was impressed with the Christian gridironer's abilities as well as attitude.

The city of Jacksonville has a large number of Christians, and signing Tebow will be a good move to get interest among this group.

So it was a PR move. Oh



Public Relations is a huge part of professional sports, you know.

Its not nearly enough to be a tremendous athlete, the fans have to give a shit about you too.

Put a whole team together of Born Agains like Tebow and a decent college team would kick their ass.

It’s about talent dummy

Kaepernick's talent level is basically a decent backup QB. He's not good enough to be a starter, but that's what he has insisted on being.

Interesting. Can you quote him saying he would only take a job as a starter?


While Kaepernick hasn't necessarily said he would only accept being a starter, his salary demands make that the only logical outcome. You don't typically pay a backup 9 to 10 million dollars for a single season.

Do you think Alex Smith was worth 16 million?

No question. Number 1 overall pick....lead the Niners to the first NFC Championship game in over a decade, after being traded to KC, for CK, he lead KC to 4 playoffs berths, including winning their first postseason win since 1993, and leading the league in passing rating in the 2017 season, setting up what has become a powerhouse program....and then obviously the horrible even that took place in Washington....which was then capped off last year with an amazing comeback, and beoming the Come Back Player of the Year, and leading Washington to the NFC East title.

So was he worth 16 million last year, also he was replaced by Kap in SF and that team went to the Super Bowl. KC won a Superbowl after he was replaced. I noticed you left that out.

He didn't get paid 16 million just last year.

He was worth every penny he did earn over his career though. A far better QB then Kap...not doubt about that


He was decent, but funny how his teams went to the Superbowl after he was gone.

that was part of a larger contract, and obligations from contracts they took over

not really a surprise, be built great programs because he’s a great qb

A great QB who ain't never win shit.

Well not a Super Bowl, but as a highlighted...he has won other championships.


What,? The Turkey Bowl.
Kind of a modern day Dan Marino...but frankly, came back from nearly getting his leg cut off completely, literally....he actually showed more heart then Dan or frankly, any pro-athlete I've seen.

He has never been.on the level of Dan Marino.
[Quoye]He could have just taken his money, and s

1) I don't think Alex Smith is the type of person to go around bragging about anything. Winners don't brag. I mean, if anything he could also brag about being a 3x Pro-Bowler as well...but why? But remind me, how many Super Bowls, or major bowls has Kal won? and Pro-Bowls?
2) I am not bragging at all...just stating facts.
3) Sure...I like to base mine on evidence though...you don't.

Don't run from the question. Which is bigger a conference championship or a division championship.

What NFL records does Kap hold?

oh a conference for sure....I think Kap has one, in 2012, the year that he came in after Alex got hurt...on Alex's team.

I think Kap has one record for most rushing yards in a game by a qb.

Yep...Kap had one solid year. Alex, has years of top notch playing. After 2012, after Alex left the 49ers...the team fell apart....2014 8-8 season, 2015...he lost his starting position...to Blaine Gabbert!

Hey, but he had one flash in the pan season, on Alex's team

So why did they give Alex the boot?

From SF? He got hurt...that's why Kap came in during the 2012 season. He gave them 7 seasons. They thought he was done....boy were they wrong, he was a pro-bowler in 2013, and the Chiefs were the last unbeaten team in the 2013 NFL season with Smith winning his first nine regular-season starts, gaining 1,919 passing yards with nine touchdowns compared to four interception, he went on to help create the KC team that we know today, bring it from the land of the lost, to one of the best programs in the NFL...SF made a horrible choice with Kap, they ended up canning him in couple seasons.

Yep and then he was cut and KC won the Superbowl. Amazing how that works.

not really. it was his team, his leadership. What’s not amazing is how fast the team fell apart when Kal became the main guy.
]

They fell into the Super Bowl WITHOUT him on the field. Kap was balling, it was a close game. KC won a Superbowl AFTER he was gone, was that his team as well

yea Kap had a great game

One and done kind of guy.

Smith like Marino are just iron men that perform over and over

Smith was on multiple teams that only excelled to the top AFTER he was gone. He is no Dan Marino, not even close.

no he got them to the top snd made them a contender.

i highlighted his record.
i am certainly not suggesting he’s a GOAT, but he was a great QB, far better the Kap.

He was a decent QB, But he wasn't leading anyone to a Superbowl

sure, he lead numerous teams over the years. He didn’t fill in on a team and have one decent losing game in his career

He didn't lead them to a Superbowl.

didn’t they make it to the super bowl in 2012?. who started at an on opening day?

had he been under center in the super bowl they would have won

Based on what exactly?

What am I basing my conclusion on? The numerous pieces of evidence I already presented that shows he is a much much better player

You haven't presented anything really, one won a Conference Championship and took the team to the Superbowl, one won a division championship. On the other team couldn't win a Championship, gets cut and a young QB wins the Superbowl and goes to another one.

Kap didn’t win a Super Bowl either

geez
 
Gee, a guy with character versus a feral animal that encourages murdering cops; what an insult to Democrats. Gestapo Garland just has to do something about this, and soon.
Encourages murdering cops? Got a link to that or are you talking about the crazies who beat up 130 cops at the Trump riot?
Trump riot? You’re an idiot, cnn is proud of you. Biden's America is off to a bad start. Trump 2024, make America great again!
9
Liberals don’t dislike Tebow. That’s some right wing super snowflake shit. People pointed out Tebows knee was treated different from Kapernick’s knee. Tebow is a solid guy and as a liberal I’m a fan. He can be wrong about abortion like many others but he does solid charity work and is genuinely a very nice guy. Wear your religion on your sleeve all you want. Doesn’t bother liberals as long as you don’t use the government to push your views. He ain’t in government.
well it was different...Tebow wasn't taking a knee during the national anthem.
Tim Tebow has never been a target of racism, police brutality, etc. either.


Tebow has been brutally attacked for his Christian faith, persecuted by the NFL for wearing bible verses on his face as well as kneeling (which they ok'ed when Kaepernick did it) That's racism.
Give me a break, Tebow has never been a victim of racism.
no it’s religious bigotry...certainly can be just as bad as racism

remember the dems used their klan to attack jews and catholics too
Religious bigotry, give me a break. He was criticized because he stunk as a quarterback and he has never played TE. Tell you what let's see what happens when he gets on the line with those big boys up front.
Nope...it was his faith....https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/2016/july/tim-tebow-blasted-for-praying-for-dying-man-on-plane

Tim Tebow Blasted for Praying for Dying Man on Plane​



In Tebow Debate, a Clash of Faith and Football​




Tim Tebow Rule: The NCAA Bans Eye Black "Messages"​


He was praised as a player...because he was good:

"
Tim Tebow is legitimately a leader of men and at this point of the season, with only four regular-season games remaining, Tebow is the NFL MVP.

The criticism surrounding Tebow is deafening—his mechanics stink, he runs a high school offense, he must learn how to pass the ball better to succeed in the NFL—but Tebow doesn't hear all that noise; he just keeps confidently controlling NFL contests in crunch time."

Is that why he hasn't been in the league since 2012, because he is such a tremendous player. Helluva player.



Tebow has been involved in other projects since leaving the NFL.

In any event, Coach Meyer saw his tryout and was impressed with the Christian gridironer's abilities as well as attitude.

The city of Jacksonville has a large number of Christians, and signing Tebow will be a good move to get interest among this group.

So it was a PR move. Oh



Public Relations is a huge part of professional sports, you know.

Its not nearly enough to be a tremendous athlete, the fans have to give a shit about you too.

Put a whole team together of Born Agains like Tebow and a decent college team would kick their ass.

It’s about talent dummy

Kaepernick's talent level is basically a decent backup QB. He's not good enough to be a starter, but that's what he has insisted on being.

Interesting. Can you quote him saying he would only take a job as a starter?


While Kaepernick hasn't necessarily said he would only accept being a starter, his salary demands make that the only logical outcome. You don't typically pay a backup 9 to 10 million dollars for a single season.

Do you think Alex Smith was worth 16 million?

No question. Number 1 overall pick....lead the Niners to the first NFC Championship game in over a decade, after being traded to KC, for CK, he lead KC to 4 playoffs berths, including winning their first postseason win since 1993, and leading the league in passing rating in the 2017 season, setting up what has become a powerhouse program....and then obviously the horrible even that took place in Washington....which was then capped off last year with an amazing comeback, and beoming the Come Back Player of the Year, and leading Washington to the NFC East title.

So was he worth 16 million last year, also he was replaced by Kap in SF and that team went to the Super Bowl. KC won a Superbowl after he was replaced. I noticed you left that out.

He didn't get paid 16 million just last year.

He was worth every penny he did earn over his career though. A far better QB then Kap...not doubt about that


He was decent, but funny how his teams went to the Superbowl after he was gone.

that was part of a larger contract, and obligations from contracts they took over

not really a surprise, be built great programs because he’s a great qb

A great QB who ain't never win shit.

Well not a Super Bowl, but as a highlighted...he has won other championships.


What,? The Turkey Bowl.
Kind of a modern day Dan Marino...but frankly, came back from nearly getting his leg cut off completely, literally....he actually showed more heart then Dan or frankly, any pro-athlete I've seen.

He has never been.on the level of Dan Marino.
[Quoye]He could have just taken his money, and s

1) I don't think Alex Smith is the type of person to go around bragging about anything. Winners don't brag. I mean, if anything he could also brag about being a 3x Pro-Bowler as well...but why? But remind me, how many Super Bowls, or major bowls has Kal won? and Pro-Bowls?
2) I am not bragging at all...just stating facts.
3) Sure...I like to base mine on evidence though...you don't.

Don't run from the question. Which is bigger a conference championship or a division championship.

What NFL records does Kap hold?

oh a conference for sure....I think Kap has one, in 2012, the year that he came in after Alex got hurt...on Alex's team.

I think Kap has one record for most rushing yards in a game by a qb.

Yep...Kap had one solid year. Alex, has years of top notch playing. After 2012, after Alex left the 49ers...the team fell apart....2014 8-8 season, 2015...he lost his starting position...to Blaine Gabbert!

Hey, but he had one flash in the pan season, on Alex's team

So why did they give Alex the boot?

From SF? He got hurt...that's why Kap came in during the 2012 season. He gave them 7 seasons. They thought he was done....boy were they wrong, he was a pro-bowler in 2013, and the Chiefs were the last unbeaten team in the 2013 NFL season with Smith winning his first nine regular-season starts, gaining 1,919 passing yards with nine touchdowns compared to four interception, he went on to help create the KC team that we know today, bring it from the land of the lost, to one of the best programs in the NFL...SF made a horrible choice with Kap, they ended up canning him in couple seasons.

Yep and then he was cut and KC won the Superbowl. Amazing how that works.

not really. it was his team, his leadership. What’s not amazing is how fast the team fell apart when Kal became the main guy.
]

They fell into the Super Bowl WITHOUT him on the field. Kap was balling, it was a close game. KC won a Superbowl AFTER he was gone, was that his team as well

yea Kap had a great game

One and done kind of guy.

Smith like Marino are just iron men that perform over and over

Smith was on multiple teams that only excelled to the top AFTER he was gone. He is no Dan Marino, not even close.

no he got them to the top snd made them a contender.

i highlighted his record.
i am certainly not suggesting he’s a GOAT, but he was a great QB, far better the Kap.

He was a decent QB, But he wasn't leading anyone to a Superbowl

sure, he lead numerous teams over the years. He didn’t fill in on a team and have one decent losing game in his career

He didn't lead them to a Superbowl.

didn’t they make it to the super bowl in 2012?. who started at an on opening day?

had he been under center in the super bowl they would have won

Based on what exactly?

What am I basing my conclusion on? The numerous pieces of evidence I already presented that shows he is a much much better player

You haven't presented anything really, one won a Conference Championship and took the team to the Superbowl, one won a division championship. On the other team couldn't win a Championship, gets cut and a young QB wins the Superbowl and goes to another one.

oh so you didn’t read got ya

well that’s a problem

Didn't need to, I have watched them play.
 
Gee, a guy with character versus a feral animal that encourages murdering cops; what an insult to Democrats. Gestapo Garland just has to do something about this, and soon.
Encourages murdering cops? Got a link to that or are you talking about the crazies who beat up 130 cops at the Trump riot?
Trump riot? You’re an idiot, cnn is proud of you. Biden's America is off to a bad start. Trump 2024, make America great again!
9
Liberals don’t dislike Tebow. That’s some right wing super snowflake shit. People pointed out Tebows knee was treated different from Kapernick’s knee. Tebow is a solid guy and as a liberal I’m a fan. He can be wrong about abortion like many others but he does solid charity work and is genuinely a very nice guy. Wear your religion on your sleeve all you want. Doesn’t bother liberals as long as you don’t use the government to push your views. He ain’t in government.
well it was different...Tebow wasn't taking a knee during the national anthem.
Tim Tebow has never been a target of racism, police brutality, etc. either.


Tebow has been brutally attacked for his Christian faith, persecuted by the NFL for wearing bible verses on his face as well as kneeling (which they ok'ed when Kaepernick did it) That's racism.
Give me a break, Tebow has never been a victim of racism.
no it’s religious bigotry...certainly can be just as bad as racism

remember the dems used their klan to attack jews and catholics too
Religious bigotry, give me a break. He was criticized because he stunk as a quarterback and he has never played TE. Tell you what let's see what happens when he gets on the line with those big boys up front.
Nope...it was his faith....https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/2016/july/tim-tebow-blasted-for-praying-for-dying-man-on-plane

Tim Tebow Blasted for Praying for Dying Man on Plane​



In Tebow Debate, a Clash of Faith and Football​




Tim Tebow Rule: The NCAA Bans Eye Black "Messages"​


He was praised as a player...because he was good:

"
Tim Tebow is legitimately a leader of men and at this point of the season, with only four regular-season games remaining, Tebow is the NFL MVP.

The criticism surrounding Tebow is deafening—his mechanics stink, he runs a high school offense, he must learn how to pass the ball better to succeed in the NFL—but Tebow doesn't hear all that noise; he just keeps confidently controlling NFL contests in crunch time."

Is that why he hasn't been in the league since 2012, because he is such a tremendous player. Helluva player.



Tebow has been involved in other projects since leaving the NFL.

In any event, Coach Meyer saw his tryout and was impressed with the Christian gridironer's abilities as well as attitude.

The city of Jacksonville has a large number of Christians, and signing Tebow will be a good move to get interest among this group.

So it was a PR move. Oh



Public Relations is a huge part of professional sports, you know.

Its not nearly enough to be a tremendous athlete, the fans have to give a shit about you too.

Put a whole team together of Born Agains like Tebow and a decent college team would kick their ass.

It’s about talent dummy

Kaepernick's talent level is basically a decent backup QB. He's not good enough to be a starter, but that's what he has insisted on being.

Interesting. Can you quote him saying he would only take a job as a starter?


While Kaepernick hasn't necessarily said he would only accept being a starter, his salary demands make that the only logical outcome. You don't typically pay a backup 9 to 10 million dollars for a single season.

Do you think Alex Smith was worth 16 million?

No question. Number 1 overall pick....lead the Niners to the first NFC Championship game in over a decade, after being traded to KC, for CK, he lead KC to 4 playoffs berths, including winning their first postseason win since 1993, and leading the league in passing rating in the 2017 season, setting up what has become a powerhouse program....and then obviously the horrible even that took place in Washington....which was then capped off last year with an amazing comeback, and beoming the Come Back Player of the Year, and leading Washington to the NFC East title.

So was he worth 16 million last year, also he was replaced by Kap in SF and that team went to the Super Bowl. KC won a Superbowl after he was replaced. I noticed you left that out.

He didn't get paid 16 million just last year.

He was worth every penny he did earn over his career though. A far better QB then Kap...not doubt about that


He was decent, but funny how his teams went to the Superbowl after he was gone.

that was part of a larger contract, and obligations from contracts they took over

not really a surprise, be built great programs because he’s a great qb

A great QB who ain't never win shit.

Well not a Super Bowl, but as a highlighted...he has won other championships.


What,? The Turkey Bowl.
Kind of a modern day Dan Marino...but frankly, came back from nearly getting his leg cut off completely, literally....he actually showed more heart then Dan or frankly, any pro-athlete I've seen.

He has never been.on the level of Dan Marino.
[Quoye]He could have just taken his money, and s

1) I don't think Alex Smith is the type of person to go around bragging about anything. Winners don't brag. I mean, if anything he could also brag about being a 3x Pro-Bowler as well...but why? But remind me, how many Super Bowls, or major bowls has Kal won? and Pro-Bowls?
2) I am not bragging at all...just stating facts.
3) Sure...I like to base mine on evidence though...you don't.

Don't run from the question. Which is bigger a conference championship or a division championship.

What NFL records does Kap hold?

oh a conference for sure....I think Kap has one, in 2012, the year that he came in after Alex got hurt...on Alex's team.

I think Kap has one record for most rushing yards in a game by a qb.

Yep...Kap had one solid year. Alex, has years of top notch playing. After 2012, after Alex left the 49ers...the team fell apart....2014 8-8 season, 2015...he lost his starting position...to Blaine Gabbert!

Hey, but he had one flash in the pan season, on Alex's team

So why did they give Alex the boot?

From SF? He got hurt...that's why Kap came in during the 2012 season. He gave them 7 seasons. They thought he was done....boy were they wrong, he was a pro-bowler in 2013, and the Chiefs were the last unbeaten team in the 2013 NFL season with Smith winning his first nine regular-season starts, gaining 1,919 passing yards with nine touchdowns compared to four interception, he went on to help create the KC team that we know today, bring it from the land of the lost, to one of the best programs in the NFL...SF made a horrible choice with Kap, they ended up canning him in couple seasons.

Yep and then he was cut and KC won the Superbowl. Amazing how that works.

not really. it was his team, his leadership. What’s not amazing is how fast the team fell apart when Kal became the main guy.
]

They fell into the Super Bowl WITHOUT him on the field. Kap was balling, it was a close game. KC won a Superbowl AFTER he was gone, was that his team as well

yea Kap had a great game

One and done kind of guy.

Smith like Marino are just iron men that perform over and over

Smith was on multiple teams that only excelled to the top AFTER he was gone. He is no Dan Marino, not even close.

no he got them to the top snd made them a contender.

i highlighted his record.
i am certainly not suggesting he’s a GOAT, but he was a great QB, far better the Kap.

He was a decent QB, But he wasn't leading anyone to a Superbowl

sure, he lead numerous teams over the years. He didn’t fill in on a team and have one decent losing game in his career

He didn't lead them to a Superbowl.

didn’t they make it to the super bowl in 2012?. who started at an on opening day?

had he been under center in the super bowl they would have won

Based on what exactly?

What am I basing my conclusion on? The numerous pieces of evidence I already presented that shows he is a much much better player

You haven't presented anything really, one won a Conference Championship and took the team to the Superbowl, one won a division championship. On the other team couldn't win a Championship, gets cut and a young QB wins the Superbowl and goes to another one.

Kap didn’t win a Super Bowl either

geez

He has been to one, has Smith?
 
Gee, a guy with character versus a feral animal that encourages murdering cops; what an insult to Democrats. Gestapo Garland just has to do something about this, and soon.
Encourages murdering cops? Got a link to that or are you talking about the crazies who beat up 130 cops at the Trump riot?
Trump riot? You’re an idiot, cnn is proud of you. Biden's America is off to a bad start. Trump 2024, make America great again!
9
Liberals don’t dislike Tebow. That’s some right wing super snowflake shit. People pointed out Tebows knee was treated different from Kapernick’s knee. Tebow is a solid guy and as a liberal I’m a fan. He can be wrong about abortion like many others but he does solid charity work and is genuinely a very nice guy. Wear your religion on your sleeve all you want. Doesn’t bother liberals as long as you don’t use the government to push your views. He ain’t in government.
well it was different...Tebow wasn't taking a knee during the national anthem.
Tim Tebow has never been a target of racism, police brutality, etc. either.


Tebow has been brutally attacked for his Christian faith, persecuted by the NFL for wearing bible verses on his face as well as kneeling (which they ok'ed when Kaepernick did it) That's racism.
Give me a break, Tebow has never been a victim of racism.
no it’s religious bigotry...certainly can be just as bad as racism

remember the dems used their klan to attack jews and catholics too
Religious bigotry, give me a break. He was criticized because he stunk as a quarterback and he has never played TE. Tell you what let's see what happens when he gets on the line with those big boys up front.
Nope...it was his faith....https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/2016/july/tim-tebow-blasted-for-praying-for-dying-man-on-plane

Tim Tebow Blasted for Praying for Dying Man on Plane​



In Tebow Debate, a Clash of Faith and Football​




Tim Tebow Rule: The NCAA Bans Eye Black "Messages"​


He was praised as a player...because he was good:

"
Tim Tebow is legitimately a leader of men and at this point of the season, with only four regular-season games remaining, Tebow is the NFL MVP.

The criticism surrounding Tebow is deafening—his mechanics stink, he runs a high school offense, he must learn how to pass the ball better to succeed in the NFL—but Tebow doesn't hear all that noise; he just keeps confidently controlling NFL contests in crunch time."

Is that why he hasn't been in the league since 2012, because he is such a tremendous player. Helluva player.



Tebow has been involved in other projects since leaving the NFL.

In any event, Coach Meyer saw his tryout and was impressed with the Christian gridironer's abilities as well as attitude.

The city of Jacksonville has a large number of Christians, and signing Tebow will be a good move to get interest among this group.

So it was a PR move. Oh



Public Relations is a huge part of professional sports, you know.

Its not nearly enough to be a tremendous athlete, the fans have to give a shit about you too.

Put a whole team together of Born Agains like Tebow and a decent college team would kick their ass.

It’s about talent dummy

Kaepernick's talent level is basically a decent backup QB. He's not good enough to be a starter, but that's what he has insisted on being.

Interesting. Can you quote him saying he would only take a job as a starter?


While Kaepernick hasn't necessarily said he would only accept being a starter, his salary demands make that the only logical outcome. You don't typically pay a backup 9 to 10 million dollars for a single season.

Do you think Alex Smith was worth 16 million?

No question. Number 1 overall pick....lead the Niners to the first NFC Championship game in over a decade, after being traded to KC, for CK, he lead KC to 4 playoffs berths, including winning their first postseason win since 1993, and leading the league in passing rating in the 2017 season, setting up what has become a powerhouse program....and then obviously the horrible even that took place in Washington....which was then capped off last year with an amazing comeback, and beoming the Come Back Player of the Year, and leading Washington to the NFC East title.

So was he worth 16 million last year, also he was replaced by Kap in SF and that team went to the Super Bowl. KC won a Superbowl after he was replaced. I noticed you left that out.

He didn't get paid 16 million just last year.

He was worth every penny he did earn over his career though. A far better QB then Kap...not doubt about that


He was decent, but funny how his teams went to the Superbowl after he was gone.

that was part of a larger contract, and obligations from contracts they took over

not really a surprise, be built great programs because he’s a great qb

A great QB who ain't never win shit.

Well not a Super Bowl, but as a highlighted...he has won other championships.


What,? The Turkey Bowl.
Kind of a modern day Dan Marino...but frankly, came back from nearly getting his leg cut off completely, literally....he actually showed more heart then Dan or frankly, any pro-athlete I've seen.

He has never been.on the level of Dan Marino.
[Quoye]He could have just taken his money, and s

1) I don't think Alex Smith is the type of person to go around bragging about anything. Winners don't brag. I mean, if anything he could also brag about being a 3x Pro-Bowler as well...but why? But remind me, how many Super Bowls, or major bowls has Kal won? and Pro-Bowls?
2) I am not bragging at all...just stating facts.
3) Sure...I like to base mine on evidence though...you don't.

Don't run from the question. Which is bigger a conference championship or a division championship.

What NFL records does Kap hold?

oh a conference for sure....I think Kap has one, in 2012, the year that he came in after Alex got hurt...on Alex's team.

I think Kap has one record for most rushing yards in a game by a qb.

Yep...Kap had one solid year. Alex, has years of top notch playing. After 2012, after Alex left the 49ers...the team fell apart....2014 8-8 season, 2015...he lost his starting position...to Blaine Gabbert!

Hey, but he had one flash in the pan season, on Alex's team

So why did they give Alex the boot?

From SF? He got hurt...that's why Kap came in during the 2012 season. He gave them 7 seasons. They thought he was done....boy were they wrong, he was a pro-bowler in 2013, and the Chiefs were the last unbeaten team in the 2013 NFL season with Smith winning his first nine regular-season starts, gaining 1,919 passing yards with nine touchdowns compared to four interception, he went on to help create the KC team that we know today, bring it from the land of the lost, to one of the best programs in the NFL...SF made a horrible choice with Kap, they ended up canning him in couple seasons.

Yep and then he was cut and KC won the Superbowl. Amazing how that works.

not really. it was his team, his leadership. What’s not amazing is how fast the team fell apart when Kal became the main guy.
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They fell into the Super Bowl WITHOUT him on the field. Kap was balling, it was a close game. KC won a Superbowl AFTER he was gone, was that his team as well

yea Kap had a great game

One and done kind of guy.

Smith like Marino are just iron men that perform over and over

Smith was on multiple teams that only excelled to the top AFTER he was gone. He is no Dan Marino, not even close.

no he got them to the top snd made them a contender.

i highlighted his record.
i am certainly not suggesting he’s a GOAT, but he was a great QB, far better the Kap.

He was a decent QB, But he wasn't leading anyone to a Superbowl

sure, he lead numerous teams over the years. He didn’t fill in on a team and have one decent losing game in his career

He didn't lead them to a Superbowl.

didn’t they make it to the super bowl in 2012?. who started at an on opening day?

had he been under center in the super bowl they would have won

Based on what exactly?

What am I basing my conclusion on? The numerous pieces of evidence I already presented that shows he is a much much better player

You haven't presented anything really, one won a Conference Championship and took the team to the Superbowl, one won a division championship. On the other team couldn't win a Championship, gets cut and a young QB wins the Superbowl and goes to another one.

Kap didn’t win a Super Bowl either

geez

He has been to one, has Smith?

i’m sure. and played in a number of pro bowls.
 
Gee, a guy with character versus a feral animal that encourages murdering cops; what an insult to Democrats. Gestapo Garland just has to do something about this, and soon.
Encourages murdering cops? Got a link to that or are you talking about the crazies who beat up 130 cops at the Trump riot?
Trump riot? You’re an idiot, cnn is proud of you. Biden's America is off to a bad start. Trump 2024, make America great again!
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Liberals don’t dislike Tebow. That’s some right wing super snowflake shit. People pointed out Tebows knee was treated different from Kapernick’s knee. Tebow is a solid guy and as a liberal I’m a fan. He can be wrong about abortion like many others but he does solid charity work and is genuinely a very nice guy. Wear your religion on your sleeve all you want. Doesn’t bother liberals as long as you don’t use the government to push your views. He ain’t in government.
well it was different...Tebow wasn't taking a knee during the national anthem.
Tim Tebow has never been a target of racism, police brutality, etc. either.


Tebow has been brutally attacked for his Christian faith, persecuted by the NFL for wearing bible verses on his face as well as kneeling (which they ok'ed when Kaepernick did it) That's racism.
Give me a break, Tebow has never been a victim of racism.
no it’s religious bigotry...certainly can be just as bad as racism

remember the dems used their klan to attack jews and catholics too
Religious bigotry, give me a break. He was criticized because he stunk as a quarterback and he has never played TE. Tell you what let's see what happens when he gets on the line with those big boys up front.
Nope...it was his faith....https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/2016/july/tim-tebow-blasted-for-praying-for-dying-man-on-plane

Tim Tebow Blasted for Praying for Dying Man on Plane​



In Tebow Debate, a Clash of Faith and Football​




Tim Tebow Rule: The NCAA Bans Eye Black "Messages"​


He was praised as a player...because he was good:

"
Tim Tebow is legitimately a leader of men and at this point of the season, with only four regular-season games remaining, Tebow is the NFL MVP.

The criticism surrounding Tebow is deafening—his mechanics stink, he runs a high school offense, he must learn how to pass the ball better to succeed in the NFL—but Tebow doesn't hear all that noise; he just keeps confidently controlling NFL contests in crunch time."

Is that why he hasn't been in the league since 2012, because he is such a tremendous player. Helluva player.



Tebow has been involved in other projects since leaving the NFL.

In any event, Coach Meyer saw his tryout and was impressed with the Christian gridironer's abilities as well as attitude.

The city of Jacksonville has a large number of Christians, and signing Tebow will be a good move to get interest among this group.

So it was a PR move. Oh



Public Relations is a huge part of professional sports, you know.

Its not nearly enough to be a tremendous athlete, the fans have to give a shit about you too.

Put a whole team together of Born Agains like Tebow and a decent college team would kick their ass.

It’s about talent dummy

Kaepernick's talent level is basically a decent backup QB. He's not good enough to be a starter, but that's what he has insisted on being.

Interesting. Can you quote him saying he would only take a job as a starter?


While Kaepernick hasn't necessarily said he would only accept being a starter, his salary demands make that the only logical outcome. You don't typically pay a backup 9 to 10 million dollars for a single season.

Do you think Alex Smith was worth 16 million?

No question. Number 1 overall pick....lead the Niners to the first NFC Championship game in over a decade, after being traded to KC, for CK, he lead KC to 4 playoffs berths, including winning their first postseason win since 1993, and leading the league in passing rating in the 2017 season, setting up what has become a powerhouse program....and then obviously the horrible even that took place in Washington....which was then capped off last year with an amazing comeback, and beoming the Come Back Player of the Year, and leading Washington to the NFC East title.

So was he worth 16 million last year, also he was replaced by Kap in SF and that team went to the Super Bowl. KC won a Superbowl after he was replaced. I noticed you left that out.

He didn't get paid 16 million just last year.

He was worth every penny he did earn over his career though. A far better QB then Kap...not doubt about that


He was decent, but funny how his teams went to the Superbowl after he was gone.

that was part of a larger contract, and obligations from contracts they took over

not really a surprise, be built great programs because he’s a great qb

A great QB who ain't never win shit.

Well not a Super Bowl, but as a highlighted...he has won other championships.


What,? The Turkey Bowl.
Kind of a modern day Dan Marino...but frankly, came back from nearly getting his leg cut off completely, literally....he actually showed more heart then Dan or frankly, any pro-athlete I've seen.

He has never been.on the level of Dan Marino.
[Quoye]He could have just taken his money, and s

1) I don't think Alex Smith is the type of person to go around bragging about anything. Winners don't brag. I mean, if anything he could also brag about being a 3x Pro-Bowler as well...but why? But remind me, how many Super Bowls, or major bowls has Kal won? and Pro-Bowls?
2) I am not bragging at all...just stating facts.
3) Sure...I like to base mine on evidence though...you don't.

Don't run from the question. Which is bigger a conference championship or a division championship.

What NFL records does Kap hold?

oh a conference for sure....I think Kap has one, in 2012, the year that he came in after Alex got hurt...on Alex's team.

I think Kap has one record for most rushing yards in a game by a qb.

Yep...Kap had one solid year. Alex, has years of top notch playing. After 2012, after Alex left the 49ers...the team fell apart....2014 8-8 season, 2015...he lost his starting position...to Blaine Gabbert!

Hey, but he had one flash in the pan season, on Alex's team

So why did they give Alex the boot?

From SF? He got hurt...that's why Kap came in during the 2012 season. He gave them 7 seasons. They thought he was done....boy were they wrong, he was a pro-bowler in 2013, and the Chiefs were the last unbeaten team in the 2013 NFL season with Smith winning his first nine regular-season starts, gaining 1,919 passing yards with nine touchdowns compared to four interception, he went on to help create the KC team that we know today, bring it from the land of the lost, to one of the best programs in the NFL...SF made a horrible choice with Kap, they ended up canning him in couple seasons.

Yep and then he was cut and KC won the Superbowl. Amazing how that works.

not really. it was his team, his leadership. What’s not amazing is how fast the team fell apart when Kal became the main guy.
]

They fell into the Super Bowl WITHOUT him on the field. Kap was balling, it was a close game. KC won a Superbowl AFTER he was gone, was that his team as well

yea Kap had a great game

One and done kind of guy.

Smith like Marino are just iron men that perform over and over

Smith was on multiple teams that only excelled to the top AFTER he was gone. He is no Dan Marino, not even close.

no he got them to the top snd made them a contender.

i highlighted his record.
i am certainly not suggesting he’s a GOAT, but he was a great QB, far better the Kap.

He was a decent QB, But he wasn't leading anyone to a Superbowl

sure, he lead numerous teams over the years. He didn’t fill in on a team and have one decent losing game in his career

He didn't lead them to a Superbowl.

didn’t they make it to the super bowl in 2012?. who started at an on opening day?

had he been under center in the super bowl they would have won

Based on what exactly?

What am I basing my conclusion on? The numerous pieces of evidence I already presented that shows he is a much much better player

You haven't presented anything really, one won a Conference Championship and took the team to the Superbowl, one won a division championship. On the other team couldn't win a Championship, gets cut and a young QB wins the Superbowl and goes to another one.

oh so you didn’t read got ya

well that’s a problem

Didn't need to, I have watched them play.

apparently not
 
Gee, a guy with character versus a feral animal that encourages murdering cops; what an insult to Democrats. Gestapo Garland just has to do something about this, and soon.
Encourages murdering cops? Got a link to that or are you talking about the crazies who beat up 130 cops at the Trump riot?
Trump riot? You’re an idiot, cnn is proud of you. Biden's America is off to a bad start. Trump 2024, make America great again!
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Liberals don’t dislike Tebow. That’s some right wing super snowflake shit. People pointed out Tebows knee was treated different from Kapernick’s knee. Tebow is a solid guy and as a liberal I’m a fan. He can be wrong about abortion like many others but he does solid charity work and is genuinely a very nice guy. Wear your religion on your sleeve all you want. Doesn’t bother liberals as long as you don’t use the government to push your views. He ain’t in government.
well it was different...Tebow wasn't taking a knee during the national anthem.
Tim Tebow has never been a target of racism, police brutality, etc. either.


Tebow has been brutally attacked for his Christian faith, persecuted by the NFL for wearing bible verses on his face as well as kneeling (which they ok'ed when Kaepernick did it) That's racism.
Give me a break, Tebow has never been a victim of racism.
no it’s religious bigotry...certainly can be just as bad as racism

remember the dems used their klan to attack jews and catholics too
Religious bigotry, give me a break. He was criticized because he stunk as a quarterback and he has never played TE. Tell you what let's see what happens when he gets on the line with those big boys up front.
Nope...it was his faith....https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/2016/july/tim-tebow-blasted-for-praying-for-dying-man-on-plane

Tim Tebow Blasted for Praying for Dying Man on Plane​



In Tebow Debate, a Clash of Faith and Football​




Tim Tebow Rule: The NCAA Bans Eye Black "Messages"​


He was praised as a player...because he was good:

"
Tim Tebow is legitimately a leader of men and at this point of the season, with only four regular-season games remaining, Tebow is the NFL MVP.

The criticism surrounding Tebow is deafening—his mechanics stink, he runs a high school offense, he must learn how to pass the ball better to succeed in the NFL—but Tebow doesn't hear all that noise; he just keeps confidently controlling NFL contests in crunch time."

Is that why he hasn't been in the league since 2012, because he is such a tremendous player. Helluva player.



Tebow has been involved in other projects since leaving the NFL.

In any event, Coach Meyer saw his tryout and was impressed with the Christian gridironer's abilities as well as attitude.

The city of Jacksonville has a large number of Christians, and signing Tebow will be a good move to get interest among this group.

So it was a PR move. Oh



Public Relations is a huge part of professional sports, you know.

Its not nearly enough to be a tremendous athlete, the fans have to give a shit about you too.

Put a whole team together of Born Agains like Tebow and a decent college team would kick their ass.

It’s about talent dummy

Kaepernick's talent level is basically a decent backup QB. He's not good enough to be a starter, but that's what he has insisted on being.

Interesting. Can you quote him saying he would only take a job as a starter?


While Kaepernick hasn't necessarily said he would only accept being a starter, his salary demands make that the only logical outcome. You don't typically pay a backup 9 to 10 million dollars for a single season.

Do you think Alex Smith was worth 16 million?

No question. Number 1 overall pick....lead the Niners to the first NFC Championship game in over a decade, after being traded to KC, for CK, he lead KC to 4 playoffs berths, including winning their first postseason win since 1993, and leading the league in passing rating in the 2017 season, setting up what has become a powerhouse program....and then obviously the horrible even that took place in Washington....which was then capped off last year with an amazing comeback, and beoming the Come Back Player of the Year, and leading Washington to the NFC East title.

So was he worth 16 million last year, also he was replaced by Kap in SF and that team went to the Super Bowl. KC won a Superbowl after he was replaced. I noticed you left that out.

He didn't get paid 16 million just last year.

He was worth every penny he did earn over his career though. A far better QB then Kap...not doubt about that


He was decent, but funny how his teams went to the Superbowl after he was gone.

that was part of a larger contract, and obligations from contracts they took over

not really a surprise, be built great programs because he’s a great qb

A great QB who ain't never win shit.

Well not a Super Bowl, but as a highlighted...he has won other championships.


What,? The Turkey Bowl.
Kind of a modern day Dan Marino...but frankly, came back from nearly getting his leg cut off completely, literally....he actually showed more heart then Dan or frankly, any pro-athlete I've seen.

He has never been.on the level of Dan Marino.
[Quoye]He could have just taken his money, and s

1) I don't think Alex Smith is the type of person to go around bragging about anything. Winners don't brag. I mean, if anything he could also brag about being a 3x Pro-Bowler as well...but why? But remind me, how many Super Bowls, or major bowls has Kal won? and Pro-Bowls?
2) I am not bragging at all...just stating facts.
3) Sure...I like to base mine on evidence though...you don't.

Don't run from the question. Which is bigger a conference championship or a division championship.

What NFL records does Kap hold?

oh a conference for sure....I think Kap has one, in 2012, the year that he came in after Alex got hurt...on Alex's team.

I think Kap has one record for most rushing yards in a game by a qb.

Yep...Kap had one solid year. Alex, has years of top notch playing. After 2012, after Alex left the 49ers...the team fell apart....2014 8-8 season, 2015...he lost his starting position...to Blaine Gabbert!

Hey, but he had one flash in the pan season, on Alex's team

So why did they give Alex the boot?

From SF? He got hurt...that's why Kap came in during the 2012 season. He gave them 7 seasons. They thought he was done....boy were they wrong, he was a pro-bowler in 2013, and the Chiefs were the last unbeaten team in the 2013 NFL season with Smith winning his first nine regular-season starts, gaining 1,919 passing yards with nine touchdowns compared to four interception, he went on to help create the KC team that we know today, bring it from the land of the lost, to one of the best programs in the NFL...SF made a horrible choice with Kap, they ended up canning him in couple seasons.

Yep and then he was cut and KC won the Superbowl. Amazing how that works.

not really. it was his team, his leadership. What’s not amazing is how fast the team fell apart when Kal became the main guy.
]

They fell into the Super Bowl WITHOUT him on the field. Kap was balling, it was a close game. KC won a Superbowl AFTER he was gone, was that his team as well

yea Kap had a great game

One and done kind of guy.

Smith like Marino are just iron men that perform over and over

Smith was on multiple teams that only excelled to the top AFTER he was gone. He is no Dan Marino, not even close.

no he got them to the top snd made them a contender.

i highlighted his record.
i am certainly not suggesting he’s a GOAT, but he was a great QB, far better the Kap.

He was a decent QB, But he wasn't leading anyone to a Superbowl

sure, he lead numerous teams over the years. He didn’t fill in on a team and have one decent losing game in his career

He didn't lead them to a Superbowl.

didn’t they make it to the super bowl in 2012?. who started at an on opening day?

had he been under center in the super bowl they would have won

Based on what exactly?

There is no relationship between Tebow and Kaepernik. You hate Tebow because he is religious. You want him and Christians exterminated. I get it. Kaepernik is a political and social issue that interfered with a sport and has cost it tens of billions of dollars. The owners are really being nice about this. Because they have to. Either way sports exist for me in a much smaller part of my life. And I want Cable TV reform as to pick our own basic cable TV packages as to eliminate sports channels among others from my service. And there are people getting paid off in D.C. as this is not dealt with.
 
they are not prophets of God not even the pope is that only the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day saints has a prophet. And the current prophet is not on the old mold god rarely instructs them.

But aren't you kind of making my point. The Prophets of Baal were unable to start a fire. The prophet of Yahweh was able to start a fire.

Because the Prophets of Baal lost that contest, they were all murdered for their beliefs in that story. Because God loves you.
 
First...you're with one Founding Fathers opinion...in a letter...to a friend.

Second...football ain't the state...it's a game. If you don't like Tim using his platform to amplify his opinion...I'm sure you're anti- Kaepernic using his fame and platform as well...and all the Hollywood celebs...

You oppose all of that...correct?

I'm mostly opposed to Hollywood Celebrities giving their opinions on stuff, because an Actor only sounds smart when a writer tells him what to say and a director tells him how to say it.

I'm against Great Thunberg's "celebrity". I want to hear the opinion of climate scientists on AGW, not an angry Swedish Retard.

As for Kap. I'm all for him advocating a political position about a specific policy that effects him. If you have cops pulling over black people and murdering them, that's something he SHOULD be legitimately concerned about.

If Tebow's position was, "I'm against abortion and will never have one, because a Filipino doctor suggested I be aborted because my idiot parents went to a third world country while she was pregnant", I'd be "Okay, that's fine."

That he doesn't want anyone else to be able to have an abortion is where I have a big problem with him, because his imaginary sky friend says it's bad.
 
First...you're with one Founding Fathers opinion...in a letter...to a friend.

Second...football ain't the state...it's a game. If you don't like Tim using his platform to amplify his opinion...I'm sure you're anti- Kaepernic using his fame and platform as well...and all the Hollywood celebs...

You oppose all of that...correct?

I'm mostly opposed to Hollywood Celebrities giving their opinions on stuff, because an Actor only sounds smart when a writer tells him what to say and a director tells him how to say it.

I'm against Great Thunberg's "celebrity". I want to hear the opinion of climate scientists on AGW, not an angry Swedish Retard.

As for Kap. I'm all for him advocating a political position about a specific policy that effects him. If you have cops pulling over black people and murdering them, that's something he SHOULD be legitimately concerned about.

If Tebow's position was, "I'm against abortion and will never have one, because a Filipino doctor suggested I be aborted because my idiot parents went to a third world country while she was pregnant", I'd be "Okay, that's fine."

That he doesn't want anyone else to be able to have an abortion is where I have a big problem with him, because his imaginary sky friend says it's bad.
It does not require belief in God to oppose abortion, it takes heart feelings and intelligence.
 
First...you're with one Founding Fathers opinion...in a letter...to a friend.

Second...football ain't the state...it's a game. If you don't like Tim using his platform to amplify his opinion...I'm sure you're anti- Kaepernic using his fame and platform as well...and all the Hollywood celebs...

You oppose all of that...correct?

I'm mostly opposed to Hollywood Celebrities giving their opinions on stuff, because an Actor only sounds smart when a writer tells him what to say and a director tells him how to say it.

I'm against Great Thunberg's "celebrity". I want to hear the opinion of climate scientists on AGW, not an angry Swedish Retard.

As for Kap. I'm all for him advocating a political position about a specific policy that effects him. If you have cops pulling over black people and murdering them, that's something he SHOULD be legitimately concerned about.

If Tebow's position was, "I'm against abortion and will never have one, because a Filipino doctor suggested I be aborted because my idiot parents went to a third world country while she was pregnant", I'd be "Okay, that's fine."

That he doesn't want anyone else to be able to have an abortion is where I have a big problem with him, because his imaginary sky friend says it's bad.
It does not require belief in God to oppose abortion, it takes heart feelings and intelligence.

Sociopaths like Joe are completely baffled by such things as human empathy. No use in trying to explain it to them.
 
It does not require belief in God to oppose abortion, it takes heart feelings and intelligence.

Really?

I don't see the anti-abortion crowd as being "intelligent". They are just a bunch of misogynists who hate women control their own bodies.

Fetuses aren't people. We don't have funerals for tampons.
a fetuse isn’t a tampon

A tampon is a device used to help women through their period and keep them from leaking blood

a fetus is an unborn offspring of a mammal.
 

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