White supremacist still using blacks have a lower IQ rhetoric?

[Correll]

if it's environment the problem can be fixed by income redistribution and social nanny state programs


if IQ is the issues then it's unfixable which is a disaster

all this can be eliminated by not categorizing by race, by do-gooders and civil rights groups that want the money and attention sent their way

never mind white supremacists, the NAACP demands white teachers close the achievement gap

1. We've been trying income redistribution and social nanny state programs for decades with little if any effect. Why? Because IMO, we cannot, for political reasons address the biggest cause of poverty and various environmental issues, ie illegitimacy.

2. If a significant portion of the gap is genetic, it does not have to be a disaster. But we can stop having a witch hunt everytime blacks are unrepresented in a intellectually demanding job/field. Why should it be a disaster?

3. We are NOT going to stop categorizing by race. You might as well go wish on a falling star for the problem to go away. THat has a better chance of success than asking for liberals to stop categorizing by race.

 

[ClosedCaption]

if it's environment the problem can be fixed by income redistribution and social nanny state programs


if IQ is the issues then it's unfixable which is a disaster

all this can be eliminated by not categorizing by race, by do-gooders and civil rights groups that want the money and attention sent their way

never mind white supremacists, the NAACP demands white teachers close the achievement gap

1. We've been trying income redistribution and social nanny state programs for decades with little if any effect. Why? Because IMO, we cannot, for political reasons address the biggest cause of poverty and various environmental issues, ie illegitimacy.

Not decades for a Century...Or does social programs and income redistribution (i.e. taxes) not count when it was white only

2. If a significant portion of the gap is genetic, it does not have to be a disaster. But we can stop having a witch hunt everytime blacks are unrepresented in a intellectually demanding job/field. Why should it be a disaster?

3. We are NOT going to stop categorizing by race. You might as well go wish on a falling star for the problem to go away. THat has a better chance of success than asking for liberals to stop categorizing by race.

Even in areas where it was white only they still didnt like each other based on where they were from, what kinda white person they are (Italian, Irish, Euro) etc etc. So they should cut the crap.

 

[Correll]

if it's environment the problem can be fixed by income redistribution and social nanny state programs


if IQ is the issues then it's unfixable which is a disaster

all this can be eliminated by not categorizing by race, by do-gooders and civil rights groups that want the money and attention sent their way

never mind white supremacists, the NAACP demands white teachers close the achievement gap

1. We've been trying income redistribution and social nanny state programs for decades with little if any effect. Why? Because IMO, we cannot, for political reasons address the biggest cause of poverty and various environmental issues, ie illegitimacy.

Not decades for a Century...Or does social programs and income redistribution (i.e. taxes) not count when it was white only

2. If a significant portion of the gap is genetic, it does not have to be a disaster. But we can stop having a witch hunt everytime blacks are unrepresented in a intellectually demanding job/field. Why should it be a disaster?

3. We are NOT going to stop categorizing by race. You might as well go wish on a falling star for the problem to go away. THat has a better chance of success than asking for liberals to stop categorizing by race.

Even in areas where it was white only they still didnt like each other based on where they were from, what kinda white person they are (Italian, Irish, Euro) etc etc. So they should cut the crap.

1. In the context of the OP, and the Thread title and the ongoing discussion, I was focused on the LACK of impact the racial targeted programs (since the 60s) have had on closing the gap. I thought that was pretty obvious, and certainly was not trying to get in some type of lame dig at blacks.

Soooooo, that being said, do you agree/disagree that these programs have failed to close the gap?

2. 2. If a significant portion of the gap is genetic, it does not have to be a disaster. But we can stop having a witch hunt evertime blacks are unrepresented in a intellectually demanding job/field. Why should it be a disaster?

3. Well, we have. SO good for US. Do you not agree that you libs are going to keep categorizing by race? You do think it is necessary in order to track the effect of racism, don't you?

 

[ClosedCaption]

if it's environment the problem can be fixed by income redistribution and social nanny state programs


if IQ is the issues then it's unfixable which is a disaster

all this can be eliminated by not categorizing by race, by do-gooders and civil rights groups that want the money and attention sent their way

never mind white supremacists, the NAACP demands white teachers close the achievement gap

1. We've been trying income redistribution and social nanny state programs for decades with little if any effect. Why? Because IMO, we cannot, for political reasons address the biggest cause of poverty and various environmental issues, ie illegitimacy.

Not decades for a Century...Or does social programs and income redistribution (i.e. taxes) not count when it was white only

2. If a significant portion of the gap is genetic, it does not have to be a disaster. But we can stop having a witch hunt everytime blacks are unrepresented in a intellectually demanding job/field. Why should it be a disaster?

3. We are NOT going to stop categorizing by race. You might as well go wish on a falling star for the problem to go away. THat has a better chance of success than asking for liberals to stop categorizing by race.

Even in areas where it was white only they still didnt like each other based on where they were from, what kinda white person they are (Italian, Irish, Euro) etc etc. So they should cut the crap.

1. In the context of the OP, and the Thread title and the ongoing discussion, I was focused on the LACK of impact the racial targeted programs (since the 60s) have had on closing the gap. I thought that was pretty obvious, and certainly was not trying to get in some type of lame dig at blacks.

Soooooo, that being said, do you agree/disagree that these programs have failed to close the gap?

Hell no, the gap took almost 400 years to create. Its like weight lost....If it took you 40 years to get the way you are you cant expect to change it in 6 months.

2. 2. If a significant portion of the gap is genetic, it does not have to be a disaster. But we can stop having a witch hunt evertime blacks are unrepresented in a intellectually demanding job/field. Why should it be a disaster?

Sorry I dont know what you're saying here

3. Well, we have. SO good for US. Do you not agree that you libs are going to keep categorizing by race? You do think it is necessary in order to track the effect of racism, don't you?

Libs? I just told you that before liberal, conservative, America etc...People have ALWAYS catorgorized by race, differences, local etc. Why you keep saying its a liberal thing is beyond understanding. Yes, things and people having categorizes is necessary. Just try calling a Korean person Chinese...or calling a White person Sicilian lol.

Or is it only wrong when its different colors? Because that would be convenient

 

[Capstone]

Is there any way to quantify the effects of a couple hundred years of social injustice, including a lengthy period of goal-focused breeding on the parts of slave-owners?! Yes, they treated their fellow human beings as livestock and bred them accordingly...for certain desired attributes. They wanted strong backs, not particularly strong minds. That embarrassing chapter in American history was followed up by another century of segregation, during which educational resources and opportunities for blacks were significantly stunted as compared to nearly all other ethnicities in the United States.

And now, after fewer than three generations with a woefully inadequate affirmative action program in effect, we have a group of ignorant whites bitching and moaning based on "a gap" which all the evidence suggests has everything to do with environment and nothing to do with race.

 

[Asclepias]

All IQ means is how much of what you are told can you remember. .

What are you talking about? IQ tests are basically a series of logic puzzles. Memorization has nothing to do with the test. Also, it isn't a myth. Just because white supremacists use it to make black people look bad, doesn't mean it isn't true. Not all facts in life are pleasant. It isn't something people should be talking about all the time because youre just going to needlessly upset people, but you cant pretend like its a myth either.

Like most retards the OP mentions, you have a severely impaired intellect.

 

[Asclepias]

IQ test are basically assimilation tests. I have already proven that on another thread on this forum.

 

[Friends]

The people who say that IQ differences do not matter are people for whom they do not matter. A university can admit blacks and Hispanics with lower IQ's than the whites and Orientals it admits. When those blacks and Hispanics drop out or flunk out the university still keeps the tuition money.

Most government agencies practice affirmative action because they are not in competition with rival agencies. However, the U.S military is in direct competition with the militaries of other countries. That is why the U.S. military has practiced intelligence testing since the First World War.

In 1984 George Orwell wrote, "In philosophy, or religion, or ethics, or politics, two and two might make five, but when one was designing a gun or an aeroplane they had to make four."

Increasingly corporations are using intelligence testing in making employment decisions. There is growing competition for those in the upper five percent of the range, and less use for people in the bottom half.

Corporations know that IQ matters. If they do not hire the most intelligent job applicants, their competitors will.

 

[Asclepias]

The people who say that IQ differences do not matter are people for whom they do not matter. A university can admit blacks and Hispanics with lower IQ's than the whites and Orientals it admits. When those blacks and Hispanics drop out or flunk out the university still keeps the tuition money.

Most government agencies practice affirmative action because they are not in competition with rival agencies. However, the U.S military is in direct competition with the militaries of other countries. That is why the U.S. military has practiced intelligence testing since the First World War.

In 1984 George Orwell wrote, "In philosophy, or religion, or ethics, or politics, two and two might make five, but when one was designing a gun or an aeroplane they had to make four."

Increasingly corporations are using intelligence testing in making employment decisions. There is growing competition for those in the upper five percent of the range, and less use for people in the bottom half.

Corporations know that IQ matters. If they do not hire the most intelligent job applicants, their competitors will.

What corporations use IQ tests? Do you have a link?

 

[Friends]

Is there any way to quantify the effects of a couple hundred years of social injustice, including a lengthy period of goal-focused breeding on the parts of slave-owners?! Yes, they treated their fellow human beings as livestock and bred them accordingly...for certain desired attributes. They wanted strong backs, not particularly strong minds. That embarrassing chapter in American history was followed up by another century of segregation, during which educational resources and opportunities for blacks were significantly stunted as compared to nearly all other ethnicities in the United States.

And now, after fewer than three generations with a woefully inadequate affirmative action program in effect, we have a group of ignorant whites bitching and moaning based on "a gap" which all the evidence suggests has everything to do with environment and nothing to do with race.

If slavery and racial discrimination are responsible for the low IQ's of American Negroes, why do American Negroes have higher averages than African Negroes? The average IQ of American Negroes is 85. The average IQ of African Negroes is 70.

 

[Friends]

The people who say that IQ differences do not matter are people for whom they do not matter. A university can admit blacks and Hispanics with lower IQ's than the whites and Orientals it admits. When those blacks and Hispanics drop out or flunk out the university still keeps the tuition money.

Most government agencies practice affirmative action because they are not in competition with rival agencies. However, the U.S military is in direct competition with the militaries of other countries. That is why the U.S. military has practiced intelligence testing since the First World War.

In 1984 George Orwell wrote, "In philosophy, or religion, or ethics, or politics, two and two might make five, but when one was designing a gun or an aeroplane they had to make four."

Increasingly corporations are using intelligence testing in making employment decisions. There is growing competition for those in the upper five percent of the range, and less use for people in the bottom half.

Corporations know that IQ matters. If they do not hire the most intelligent job applicants, their competitors will.

What corporations use IQ tests? Do you have a link?

To get my last two jobs I had to pass three mental aptitude tests.

With Microsoft IQ testing is oral, and part of the interviewing process.

 

[Asclepias]

Is there any way to quantify the effects of a couple hundred years of social injustice, including a lengthy period of goal-focused breeding on the parts of slave-owners?! Yes, they treated their fellow human beings as livestock and bred them accordingly...for certain desired attributes. They wanted strong backs, not particularly strong minds. That embarrassing chapter in American history was followed up by another century of segregation, during which educational resources and opportunities for blacks were significantly stunted as compared to nearly all other ethnicities in the United States.

And now, after fewer than three generations with a woefully inadequate affirmative action program in effect, we have a group of ignorant whites bitching and moaning based on "a gap" which all the evidence suggests has everything to do with environment and nothing to do with race.

If slavery and racial discrimination are responsible for the low IQ's of American Negroes, why do American Negroes have higher averages than African Negroes? The average IQ of American Negroes is 85. The average IQ of African Negroes is 70.

IQ is BS pure and simple. Its assimilation. Africans come over here and do better in college than any race of people.

 

[Stephanie]

omg. the world is now going to end

 

[Asclepias]

The people who say that IQ differences do not matter are people for whom they do not matter. A university can admit blacks and Hispanics with lower IQ's than the whites and Orientals it admits. When those blacks and Hispanics drop out or flunk out the university still keeps the tuition money.

Most government agencies practice affirmative action because they are not in competition with rival agencies. However, the U.S military is in direct competition with the militaries of other countries. That is why the U.S. military has practiced intelligence testing since the First World War.

In 1984 George Orwell wrote, "In philosophy, or religion, or ethics, or politics, two and two might make five, but when one was designing a gun or an aeroplane they had to make four."

Increasingly corporations are using intelligence testing in making employment decisions. There is growing competition for those in the upper five percent of the range, and less use for people in the bottom half.

Corporations know that IQ matters. If they do not hire the most intelligent job applicants, their competitors will.

What corporations use IQ tests? Do you have a link?

To get my last two jobs I had to pass three mental aptitude tests.

With Microsoft IQ testing is oral, and part of the interviewing process.

Mental aptitude tests dont test intellect. The "aptitude" part should have tipped you off. I need a link for your Microsoft claim. Theres no way thats true.

 

[Godboy]

Is there any way to quantify the effects of a couple hundred years of social injustice, including a lengthy period of goal-focused breeding on the parts of slave-owners?! Yes, they treated their fellow human beings as livestock and bred them accordingly...for certain desired attributes. They wanted strong backs, not particularly strong minds. That embarrassing chapter in American history was followed up by another century of segregation, during which educational resources and opportunities for blacks were significantly stunted as compared to nearly all other ethnicities in the United States.

And now, after fewer than three generations with a woefully inadequate affirmative action program in effect, we have a group of ignorant whites bitching and moaning based on "a gap" which all the evidence suggests has everything to do with environment and nothing to do with race.

If slavery and racial discrimination are responsible for the low IQ's of American Negroes, why do American Negroes have higher averages than African Negroes? The average IQ of American Negroes is 85. The average IQ of African Negroes is 70.

IQ is BS pure and simple. Its assimilation. Africans come over here and do better in college than any race of people.

No they don't.

 

[Asclepias]

Is there any way to quantify the effects of a couple hundred years of social injustice, including a lengthy period of goal-focused breeding on the parts of slave-owners?! Yes, they treated their fellow human beings as livestock and bred them accordingly...for certain desired attributes. They wanted strong backs, not particularly strong minds. That embarrassing chapter in American history was followed up by another century of segregation, during which educational resources and opportunities for blacks were significantly stunted as compared to nearly all other ethnicities in the United States.

And now, after fewer than three generations with a woefully inadequate affirmative action program in effect, we have a group of ignorant whites bitching and moaning based on "a gap" which all the evidence suggests has everything to do with environment and nothing to do with race.

If slavery and racial discrimination are responsible for the low IQ's of American Negroes, why do American Negroes have higher averages than African Negroes? The average IQ of American Negroes is 85. The average IQ of African Negroes is 70.

IQ is BS pure and simple. Its assimilation. Africans come over here and do better in college than any race of people.

No they don't.

Sure they do cave monkey.

Census Foreign-born Africans Most Educated Immigrants in the U.S. at Tadias Magazine

 

[IanC]

Is there any way to quantify the effects of a couple hundred years of social injustice, including a lengthy period of goal-focused breeding on the parts of slave-owners?! Yes, they treated their fellow human beings as livestock and bred them accordingly...for certain desired attributes. They wanted strong backs, not particularly strong minds. That embarrassing chapter in American history was followed up by another century of segregation, during which educational resources and opportunities for blacks were significantly stunted as compared to nearly all other ethnicities in the United States.

And now, after fewer than three generations with a woefully inadequate affirmative action program in effect, we have a group of ignorant whites bitching and moaning based on "a gap" which all the evidence suggests has everything to do with environment and nothing to do with race.

If slavery and racial discrimination are responsible for the low IQ's of American Negroes, why do American Negroes have higher averages than African Negroes? The average IQ of American Negroes is 85. The average IQ of African Negroes is 70.

A few reasons. There is white admixture in American Blacks. Nutrition is better in first world nations. And western civilization gives more opportunity to practice the thinking skills being measured by IQ tests.

 

[IanC]

Is there any way to quantify the effects of a couple hundred years of social injustice, including a lengthy period of goal-focused breeding on the parts of slave-owners?! Yes, they treated their fellow human beings as livestock and bred them accordingly...for certain desired attributes. They wanted strong backs, not particularly strong minds. That embarrassing chapter in American history was followed up by another century of segregation, during which educational resources and opportunities for blacks were significantly stunted as compared to nearly all other ethnicities in the United States.

And now, after fewer than three generations with a woefully inadequate affirmative action program in effect, we have a group of ignorant whites bitching and moaning based on "a gap" which all the evidence suggests has everything to do with environment and nothing to do with race.

If slavery and racial discrimination are responsible for the low IQ's of American Negroes, why do American Negroes have higher averages than African Negroes? The average IQ of American Negroes is 85. The average IQ of African Negroes is 70.

IQ is BS pure and simple. Its assimilation. Africans come over here and do better in college than any race of people.

No they don't.

Sure they do cave monkey.

Census Foreign-born Africans Most Educated Immigrants in the U.S. at Tadias Magazine

That is a restriction of range issue. It is unfortunate that the African brain drain is happening. Africa needs them at home.

 

[Asclepias]

Is there any way to quantify the effects of a couple hundred years of social injustice, including a lengthy period of goal-focused breeding on the parts of slave-owners?! Yes, they treated their fellow human beings as livestock and bred them accordingly...for certain desired attributes. They wanted strong backs, not particularly strong minds. That embarrassing chapter in American history was followed up by another century of segregation, during which educational resources and opportunities for blacks were significantly stunted as compared to nearly all other ethnicities in the United States.

And now, after fewer than three generations with a woefully inadequate affirmative action program in effect, we have a group of ignorant whites bitching and moaning based on "a gap" which all the evidence suggests has everything to do with environment and nothing to do with race.

If slavery and racial discrimination are responsible for the low IQ's of American Negroes, why do American Negroes have higher averages than African Negroes? The average IQ of American Negroes is 85. The average IQ of African Negroes is 70.

A few reasons. There is white admixture in American Blacks. Nutrition is better in first world nations. And western civilization gives more opportunity to practice the thinking skills being measured by IQ tests.

White admixture has nothing to do with it. Its assimilation. We are privy to whites way of thinking so of course we have a better chance at getting the question "right" according to whites point of view.

 

[Asclepias]

Is there any way to quantify the effects of a couple hundred years of social injustice, including a lengthy period of goal-focused breeding on the parts of slave-owners?! Yes, they treated their fellow human beings as livestock and bred them accordingly...for certain desired attributes. They wanted strong backs, not particularly strong minds. That embarrassing chapter in American history was followed up by another century of segregation, during which educational resources and opportunities for blacks were significantly stunted as compared to nearly all other ethnicities in the United States.

And now, after fewer than three generations with a woefully inadequate affirmative action program in effect, we have a group of ignorant whites bitching and moaning based on "a gap" which all the evidence suggests has everything to do with environment and nothing to do with race.

If slavery and racial discrimination are responsible for the low IQ's of American Negroes, why do American Negroes have higher averages than African Negroes? The average IQ of American Negroes is 85. The average IQ of African Negroes is 70.

IQ is BS pure and simple. Its assimilation. Africans come over here and do better in college than any race of people.

No they don't.

Sure they do cave monkey.

Census Foreign-born Africans Most Educated Immigrants in the U.S. at Tadias Magazine

That is a restriction of range issue. It is unfortunate that the African brain drain is happening. Africa needs them at home.

Doest really matter what kind of issue it is. The monkey goodboy still doesnt know his asshole from his mouth.