Who are the job creators?

[American Horse]

Supply vs. demand.

If the supply side can create all the product that they want free of taxes and regulations it won't matter if there is no demand. If the middle class have no disposable income, the demand slows down.

Now if the middle class are flourishing and have money to spend, the demand becomes obvious and business and in turn jobs will be created to meet that demand.

The real "job creators" are not the rich, but the people who purchase the products. If they have no money, they make no purchases.

So yes, we should be catering to the job creators. It's just a matter of deciding who truly are the job creators that is the question.

Don't rich people also purchase products?

Sure do, but how many rich people are there versus the middle class?

And to be honest, the rich are more likely to know how to save their money while the middle class is more prone to spend as much as they can.

And when the rich don't spend their money they invest it in ventures they expect/hope to see a gain (an "industry" has the use of that money to grow into new markets/expand), or they can deposit it in a bank which will loan it to business for capital to expand, or to an entrepreneur to develop a new product and open an etirely new operation including all skill levels which will be employed in that operation in all it's levels.

If they buy a jet, they will park it at a local airport and keep a pilot and crew on staff to facilitate it's use. The jet will encourage the growth/expansion of services to meet the needs of an expanding civil aviation activity and other aviation services/airlines will venture into that market for scheduled or contract services.

These employees will need suitable living quarters which will drive a real estate market and residential housing market to expand which will employ the sons and daughters of local folks in the construction of those homes, many in unskilled beginning level constructio jobs, drafting, engineering, labor, etc; jobs that cannot be exported.

 

[FactFinder]

Don't rich people also purchase products?

Sure do, but how many rich people are there versus the middle class?

And to be honest, the rich are more likely to know how to save their money while the middle class is more prone to spend as much as they can.

And when the rich don't spend their money the on invest it in ventures they expect/hope to see a gain (an "industry" has the use of that money to grow into new markets/expand), or the can deposit it in a bank which will loan it to business for capital to expand, or to man entrepreneur to create a new product and open an etirely new operation including all skill levels to be employed in that operation in all it's levels.

If they buy a jet, they will park it at a local airport and keep a pilot and crew on staff to facilitate it's use. The jet will encourage the growth/expansion of services to meet the needs of an expanding civil aviation activity and other aviation services/airlines will venture into that market for scheduled or contract services. These employees will need suitable living quarters which will drive a real estate market and residential housing market which will employ the sons and daughters in the construction of those homes, many in unskilled beginning level construction, drafting, engineering, etc positions.

Yada, yada yada

 

[pete]

Supply vs. demand.

If the supply side can create all the product that they want free of taxes and regulations it won't matter if there is no demand. If the middle class have no disposable income, the demand slows down.

Now if the middle class are flourishing and have money to spend, the demand becomes obvious and business and in turn jobs will be created to meet that demand.

The real "job creators" are not the rich, but the people who purchase the products. If they have no money, they make no purchases.

So yes, we should be catering to the job creators. It's just a matter of deciding who truly are the job creators that is the question.

So where do the middle class workers get the disposable income if they are to spend it?
Seems to me (like supply and demand) you need money to make money and that would be the rich ...
The government cant keep hiring especially without money

 

[FactFinder]

Supply vs. demand.

If the supply side can create all the product that they want free of taxes and regulations it won't matter if there is no demand. If the middle class have no disposable income, the demand slows down.

Now if the middle class are flourishing and have money to spend, the demand becomes obvious and business and in turn jobs will be created to meet that demand.

The real "job creators" are not the rich, but the people who purchase the products. If they have no money, they make no purchases.

So yes, we should be catering to the job creators. It's just a matter of deciding who truly are the job creators that is the question.

So where do the middle class workers get the disposable income if they are to spend it?
Seems to me (like supply and demand) you need money to make money and that would be the rich ...
The government cant keep hiring especially without money

The job creators are entrepenurail visionaries. Not those trying to hold onto their status. They can be identified by those who are defending their staus and refusing to pay a fair share. They are not looking out for anyone's intereset but their own.

 

[American Horse]

Sure do, but how many rich people are there versus the middle class?

And to be honest, the rich are more likely to know how to save their money while the middle class is more prone to spend as much as they can.

And when the rich don't spend their money they may invest it in ventures they expect/hope to see a gain (an "industry" has the use of that money to grow into new markets/expand), or they can deposit it in a bank which will loan it to business for capital to expand, or to an entrepreneur to create a new product and open an etirely new operation including all skill levels to be employed in that operation in all it's levels.

If they buy a jet, they will park it at a local airport and keep a pilot and crew on staff to facilitate it's use. The jet will encourage the growth/expansion of services to meet the needs of an expanding civil aviation activity and other aviation services/airlines will venture into that market for scheduled or contract services.

These employees will need suitable living quarters which will drive a real estate market and residential housing market to expand which will employ the sons and daughters of local folks in the construction of those homes, many in unskilled beginning level constructio jobs, drafting, engineering, labor, etc; jobs that cannot be exported.

Yada, yada yada

So . . . You haven't observed this in your area?

 

[FactFinder]

And when the rich don't spend their money they may invest it in ventures they expect/hope to see a gain (an "industry" has the use of that money to grow into new markets/expand), or they can deposit it in a bank which will loan it to business for capital to expand, or to an entrepreneur to create a new product and open an etirely new operation including all skill levels to be employed in that operation in all it's levels.

If they buy a jet, they will park it at a local airport and keep a pilot and crew on staff to facilitate it's use. The jet will encourage the growth/expansion of services to meet the needs of an expanding civil aviation activity and other aviation services/airlines will venture into that market for scheduled or contract services.

These employees will need suitable living quarters which will drive a real estate market and residential housing market to expand which will employ the sons and daughters of local folks in the construction of those homes, many in unskilled beginning level constructio jobs, drafting, engineering, labor, etc; jobs that cannot be exported.

Yada, yada yada

So . . . You haven't observed this in your area?

Observed it too often. Geez, man let me give you a tip. Will a buck fifty do? I don'tknow man will it do for you?

 

[American Horse]

Yada, yada yada

So . . . You haven't observed this in your area?

Observed it too often. Geez, man let me give you a tip. Will a buck fifty do? I don'tknow man will it do for you?

In our city, one guy who started a business in his garage 45 years ago making surgical stints, started a company, Cook Pharmaceutical, became a billionaire, created 5,000 jobs in our city. He then opened a facility employing 2,000 in Spencer, the county seat in the next county over, and another 1,000 jobs in our small village of Ellettsville.

He bought a corporate jet, and hangers it in our airport which helps support that airport, and its expansion, rebuilt the Indiana French Lick hotel, which was falling down, turning it into a major casino, has contributed millions to I.U. the state university here. He has also given to develop and restore many historical sites in the state, all that employing people.

I was fortunate enough to build two grand homes for two of his employees, and sell them the land to do that on. Just two of those homes employed me and my crew for a year. This has happened many times over, with others in our community. My wife, a realtor, has benefitted tangentially by earning commissions from sales and listings on their real estate many times.

My tip to you is to relocate to a town or a city or state which honors the very wealthy instead of demonizes them. It might work out better for you.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Try asking a Consumer for a Job. Try asking a Consumer for a Raise. Try asking a Consumer for Time off. Good luck with that. Mean while back in the Real World where Employers are Responsible for Job Creation........

Try asking an employer for a job when the consumers aren't spending enough money to justify the employer putting on more people.

Correction:

Try asking an employer for a job when the government taxes consumers who cannot spend enough money to justify the employer putting on more people

We've had a trillion and a half dollars worth of tax cuts and tax cut extensions since the recession began. I think you people have beaten that horse to death enough times.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Try asking a Consumer for a Job. Try asking a Consumer for a Raise. Try asking a Consumer for Time off. Good luck with that. Mean while back in the Real World where Employers are Responsible for Job Creation........

Try asking an employer for a job when the consumers aren't spending enough money to justify the employer putting on more people.

Keep sitting on your cash and it rots.

What cash?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Try asking a Consumer for a Job. Try asking a Consumer for a Raise. Try asking a Consumer for Time off. Good luck with that. Mean while back in the Real World where Employers are Responsible for Job Creation........

Try asking an employer for a job when the consumers aren't spending enough money to justify the employer putting on more people.

Correction:

Try asking an employer for a job when the government taxes consumers who cannot spend enough money to justify the employer putting on more people

Did your wingnut talking point subscription lapse? The latest thing is, the Right wants to RAISE taxes on the half of households that pay ZERO income tax...

...

 

[Foxfyre]

Try asking an employer for a job when the consumers aren't spending enough money to justify the employer putting on more people.

Correction:

Try asking an employer for a job when the government taxes consumers who cannot spend enough money to justify the employer putting on more people

Did your wingnut talking point subscription lapse? The latest thing is, the Right wants to RAISE taxes on the half of households that pay ZERO income tax...

...

Yup. Those who vote for the people who want to tax me more should also bear the consequences of tax policy. It is dangerous for half the wage earners in this country to pay little or no federal income tax but at the same time have the numbers to select the people who will impose federal income taxes on the rest of us. If Congress raises taxes by 1% or 5% or 10% or whatever, ALL of us should share in the consequences of that.

 

[DiamondDave]

In an economy that is 70% consumption, the consumers are the job creators.

I just got done proving that wrong, nitwit.

That is why the idiot just ignored it and just went on spewing shit... it's one thing to be wrong.. it is another to be obtuse like this asshole

 

[bripat9643]

In an economy that is 70% consumption, the consumers are the job creators.

I just got done proving that wrong, nitwit.

That is why the idiot just ignored it and just went on spewing shit... it's one thing to be wrong.. it is another to be obtuse like this asshole

That's why I have a hard time being civil with these morons. It really doesn't matter how devastating your logic and facts are, they will continue to spew their idiocies and bullshit. Ridicule is what they deserve.

 

[NYcarbineer]

In an economy that is 70% consumption, the consumers are the job creators.

I just got done proving that wrong, nitwit.

That is why the idiot just ignored it and just went on spewing shit... it's one thing to be wrong.. it is another to be obtuse like this asshole

Jobs aren't created without demand. Consumers create the demand. Therefore, consumers are the job creators.

 

[RDD_1210]

I just got done proving that wrong, nitwit.

That is why the idiot just ignored it and just went on spewing shit... it's one thing to be wrong.. it is another to be obtuse like this asshole

That's why I have a hard time being civil with these morons. It really doesn't matter how devastating your logic and facts are, they will continue to spew their idiocies and bullshit. Ridicule is what they deserve.

Civil - lol.

Logic - lol.

LOL.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Correction:

Try asking an employer for a job when the government taxes consumers who cannot spend enough money to justify the employer putting on more people

Did your wingnut talking point subscription lapse? The latest thing is, the Right wants to RAISE taxes on the half of households that pay ZERO income tax...

...

Yup. Those who vote for the people who want to tax me more should also bear the consequences of tax policy. It is dangerous for half the wage earners in this country to pay little or no federal income tax but at the same time have the numbers to select the people who will impose federal income taxes on the rest of us. If Congress raises taxes by 1% or 5% or 10% or whatever, ALL of us should share in the consequences of that.

Ah, so we should abandon the principle of one person one vote and establish some sort of elitist oligarchy where only the wealthy vote?

 

[NYcarbineer]

In an economy that is 70% consumption, the consumers are the job creators.

I just got done proving that wrong, nitwit.

You have zero credibility among normal Americans. And, you didn't even post after I made that statement, you fat retard.

 

[percysunshine]

I create a job everytime I post something.

Someone has to administrate this stuff, and the electricity comes from somewhere...

 

[RDD_1210]

In an economy that is 70% consumption, the consumers are the job creators.

I just got done proving that wrong, nitwit.

You have zero credibility among normal Americans. And, you didn't even post after I made that statement, you fat retard.

BriPat is a funny guy. When he tries to make an example it only disproves his own point. So he makes a new example, but the same thing happens. So then he complains that there is no example that he can give because it's all some sort of trick. It never dawns on him that there is no example he can give that proves his point, because perhaps his point is severely flawed.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I will be a job creator if the economy ever turns around. I went from many crews before the crash to just one now. Lucky to still have my doors open honestly. Just invested new advertising with Angieslist and its barely keeping me above water.

I think its amusing to watch those of you who have never run your own business speculate about why those of us that have aren't hiring. And then when we tell you why you just blow it off because it doesn't fit your ideology. Living in an isolated bubble must be nice.