Who Are The Palestinains?

[P F Tinmore]

As I said earlier, he, and his Muslim-Arab buddies, can (and will) refute it until the cows come home...

The difference being that they cannot EFFECTIVELY refute it, in any manner that is in-force and operative within the Real World that the rest of us inhabit...

Hell, even the United Nations cartography department publishes maps showing the borders of Israel...

The ankle-biters who believe otherwise are easily rebutted and contained.

They do, but unlike every other country, the UN has a disclaimer on the bottom of Israel's map.

...

Incorrect.

Go to the United Nations webiste, Cartography Dept, where the map of Israel comes from...

United Nations Cartographic Section Web Site

Click on any of the Country -level maps available there...

You will find that same or similar disclaimer on ANY of them...

For example, the UN's Cartography Dept map of the Czech Republic...

"The boundaries and names shown and the designations used on this map do not imply official endorsement or acceptance by the United Nations."

http://www.un.org/depts/Cartographic/map/profile/czech.pdf

...and on and on and on, UN map after UN map.

Like I said... easily rebutted and contained.

OK, there may be a few other countries in flux, but that does not change the disclaimer on Israel's questionable legitimacy.

 

[MJB12741]

Just cutious. While Israel has made peace with both Egypt & Jordan, who have the Palestinians ever made peace with?

False. Palestine is defined as the West Bank and Gaza. The rest is Israel proper. You cannot refute that.

Oh, yes you can!

Go ahead then refute it with links from reputable sources, you can start with Jordan and Egypt that have treaties with Israel setting out mutually agreed borders

 

[Hossfly]

They do, but unlike every other country, the UN has a disclaimer on the bottom of Israel's map.

...

Incorrect.

Go to the United Nations webiste, Cartography Dept, where the map of Israel comes from...

United Nations Cartographic Section Web Site

Click on any of the Country -level maps available there...

You will find that same or similar disclaimer on ANY of them...

For example, the UN's Cartography Dept map of the Czech Republic...

"The boundaries and names shown and the designations used on this map do not imply official endorsement or acceptance by the United Nations."

http://www.un.org/depts/Cartographic/map/profile/czech.pdf

...and on and on and on, UN map after UN map.

Like I said... easily rebutted and contained.

OK, there may be a few other countries in flux, but that does not change the disclaimer on Israel's questionable legitimacy.

Jebus on a bloody crutch!!! Will you never give up your senseless prattle and braying?

 

[Kondor3]

They do, but unlike every other country, the UN has a disclaimer on the bottom of Israel's map.

...

Incorrect.

Go to the United Nations webiste, Cartography Dept, where the map of Israel comes from...

United Nations Cartographic Section Web Site

Click on any of the Country -level maps available there...

You will find that same or similar disclaimer on ANY of them...

For example, the UN's Cartography Dept map of the Czech Republic...

"The boundaries and names shown and the designations used on this map do not imply official endorsement or acceptance by the United Nations."

http://www.un.org/depts/Cartographic/map/profile/czech.pdf

...and on and on and on, UN map after UN map.

Like I said... easily rebutted and contained.

OK, there may be a few other countries in flux, but that does not change the disclaimer on Israel's questionable legitimacy.

Translation...

"OK, ya got me on that one."

Already understood.

 

[Picaro]

Just cutious. While Israel has made peace with both Egypt & Jordan, who have the Palestinians ever made peace with?

UN NGO's and assorted sociopaths who shovel food, TV sets, money, and support to them for being terrorist gangsters and extortionists?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Just cutious. While Israel has made peace with both Egypt & Jordan, who have the Palestinians ever made peace with?

Oh, yes you can!

Go ahead then refute it with links from reputable sources, you can start with Jordan and Egypt that have treaties with Israel setting out mutually agreed borders

The Palestinians aren't at war with anyone.

 

[Vigilante]

Sick: Fatah Posts Cartoon Mocking Kidnapped Teens as 'Rats'

Facebook page of Palestinian Authority Chief Mahmoud Abbas's party posts cartoon portraying abducted Israeli students as rats.

Disgusting: Cartoon compares kidnapped Israeli boys to rats
Screenshot/Facebook




The official Facebook page Palestinian Authority head Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah party has posted a cartoon comparing the three kidnapped Israeli students to rats.
The post on the "Palestinian National Liberation Movement "Fatah" / Central Page" shows three rats with Stars of David dangling from a fishing rod, accompanied by an Arabic caption in red reading "A Master Stroke"; its implications are unmistakable.

Cartoon posted on Fatah Facebook page Screenshot



The sickening cartoon illustrates the mixed messages sent by the PA; on the one hand, Abbas promised to help Israel find the abducted teens - even as a senior PA official denied his administration would take any responsibility for the kidnappings.

 

[Hossfly]

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[Kondor3]

Just cutious. While Israel has made peace with both Egypt & Jordan, who have the Palestinians ever made peace with?

Go ahead then refute it with links from reputable sources, you can start with Jordan and Egypt that have treaties with Israel setting out mutually agreed borders

The Palestinians aren't at war with anyone.

One day, you say "The war isn't over yet".

Another day, you say "The Palestinians aren't at war with anyone."

Pick one.

And stick with it.

Yer makin' everybody dizzy.

 

[toastman]

Just cutious. While Israel has made peace with both Egypt & Jordan, who have the Palestinians ever made peace with?

The Palestinians aren't at war with anyone.

One day, you say "The war isn't over yet".

Another day, you say "The Palestinians aren't at war with anyone."

Pick one.

And stick with it.

Yer makin' everybody dizzy.

Was literally about to post the same thing..........

 

[MJB12741]

Just goes to prove Palestinians will always be Palestinians.

Sick: Fatah Posts Cartoon Mocking Kidnapped Teens as 'Rats'

Facebook page of Palestinian Authority Chief Mahmoud Abbas's party posts cartoon portraying abducted Israeli students as rats.

Disgusting: Cartoon compares kidnapped Israeli boys to rats
Screenshot/Facebook




The official Facebook page Palestinian Authority head Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah party has posted a cartoon comparing the three kidnapped Israeli students to rats.
The post on the "Palestinian National Liberation Movement "Fatah" / Central Page" shows three rats with Stars of David dangling from a fishing rod, accompanied by an Arabic caption in red reading "A Master Stroke"; its implications are unmistakable.

Cartoon posted on Fatah Facebook page Screenshot



The sickening cartoon illustrates the mixed messages sent by the PA; on the one hand, Abbas promised to help Israel find the abducted teens - even as a senior PA official denied his administration would take any responsibility for the kidnappings.

 

[MJB12741]

The Palestinian hatred for Israel has no end. Their children are indoctrinated into it as part of their Palestinian education.

Just goes to prove Palestinians will always be Palestinians.

Sick: Fatah Posts Cartoon Mocking Kidnapped Teens as 'Rats'

Facebook page of Palestinian Authority Chief Mahmoud Abbas's party posts cartoon portraying abducted Israeli students as rats.

Disgusting: Cartoon compares kidnapped Israeli boys to rats
Screenshot/Facebook




The official Facebook page Palestinian Authority head Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah party has posted a cartoon comparing the three kidnapped Israeli students to rats.
The post on the "Palestinian National Liberation Movement "Fatah" / Central Page" shows three rats with Stars of David dangling from a fishing rod, accompanied by an Arabic caption in red reading "A Master Stroke"; its implications are unmistakable.

Cartoon posted on Fatah Facebook page Screenshot



The sickening cartoon illustrates the mixed messages sent by the PA; on the one hand, Abbas promised to help Israel find the abducted teens - even as a senior PA official denied his administration would take any responsibility for the kidnappings.

 

[Picaro]

As a matter of fact, Jews were among the indigenous Palestinians of antiquity. Were Muslims? Or are they just squatters on Israel's ancient land?

Under the Ottomans they were Syrians, or Egyptian migrants. They considered themselves Syrians, which is what they still are, the few of those that have roots going back a couple of centuries, and those are largely form the hill country, not the plains; it was easier to dodge the Ottoman tax collectors and military drafts in the hills than elsewhere.

 

[MJB12741]

Truly I cannot understand WHY Israel has allowed the Muslim Palestinians to squat on their land for generations.

As a matter of fact, Jews were among the indigenous Palestinians of antiquity. Were Muslims? Or are they just squatters on Israel's ancient land?

Under the Ottomans they were Syrians, or Egyptian migrants. They considered themselves Syrians, which is what they still are, the few of those that have roots going back a couple of centuries, and those are largely form the hill country, not the plains; it was easier to dodge the Ottoman tax collectors and military drafts in the hills than elsewhere.

 

[P F Tinmore]

As a matter of fact, Jews were among the indigenous Palestinians of antiquity. Were Muslims? Or are they just squatters on Israel's ancient land?

Under the Ottomans they were Syrians, or Egyptian migrants. They considered themselves Syrians, which is what they still are, the few of those that have roots going back a couple of centuries, and those are largely form the hill country, not the plains; it was easier to dodge the Ottoman tax collectors and military drafts in the hills than elsewhere.

Of course none of that means anything. The law is simple and clear.

All Turkish citizens who normally resided in the territory that became Palestine are Palestinian citizens.

How long they had lived there doesn't matter. Their religion doesn't matter. Where they came from Doesn't matter. What they called themselves doesn't matter.

This whole discussion is pointless.

 

[MJB12741]

HUH??? Are you now saying there is no such thing as Palestinians?

As a matter of fact, Jews were among the indigenous Palestinians of antiquity. Were Muslims? Or are they just squatters on Israel's ancient land?

Under the Ottomans they were Syrians, or Egyptian migrants. They considered themselves Syrians, which is what they still are, the few of those that have roots going back a couple of centuries, and those are largely form the hill country, not the plains; it was easier to dodge the Ottoman tax collectors and military drafts in the hills than elsewhere.

Of course none of that means anything. The law is simple and clear.

All Turkish citizens who normally resided in the territory that became Palestine are Palestinian citizens.

How long they had lived there doesn't matter. Their religion doesn't matter. Where they came from Doesn't matter. What they called themselves doesn't matter.

This whole discussion is pointless.

 

[toastman]

As a matter of fact, Jews were among the indigenous Palestinians of antiquity. Were Muslims? Or are they just squatters on Israel's ancient land?

Under the Ottomans they were Syrians, or Egyptian migrants. They considered themselves Syrians, which is what they still are, the few of those that have roots going back a couple of centuries, and those are largely form the hill country, not the plains; it was easier to dodge the Ottoman tax collectors and military drafts in the hills than elsewhere.

Of course none of that means anything. The law is simple and clear.

All Turkish citizens who normally resided in the territory that became Palestine are Palestinian citizens.

How long they had lived there doesn't matter. Their religion doesn't matter. Where they came from Doesn't matter. What they called themselves doesn't matter.

This whole discussion is pointless.

What law are you talking about? Don't you mean treaty?


What were they before they were Turkish citizens?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Under the Ottomans they were Syrians, or Egyptian migrants. They considered themselves Syrians, which is what they still are, the few of those that have roots going back a couple of centuries, and those are largely form the hill country, not the plains; it was easier to dodge the Ottoman tax collectors and military drafts in the hills than elsewhere.

Of course none of that means anything. The law is simple and clear.

All Turkish citizens who normally resided in the territory that became Palestine are Palestinian citizens.

How long they had lived there doesn't matter. Their religion doesn't matter. Where they came from Doesn't matter. What they called themselves doesn't matter.

This whole discussion is pointless.

What law are you talking about? Don't you mean treaty?


What were they before they were Turkish citizens?

People.

 

[Phoenall]

Of course none of that means anything. The law is simple and clear.

All Turkish citizens who normally resided in the territory that became Palestine are Palestinian citizens.

How long they had lived there doesn't matter. Their religion doesn't matter. Where they came from Doesn't matter. What they called themselves doesn't matter.

This whole discussion is pointless.

What law are you talking about? Don't you mean treaty?


What were they before they were Turkish citizens?

People.

So the same must apply to the Jews that arrived in Palestine, and they MUST BY INTERNATIONAL LAW be given the chance of self determination. The law does not say under the yoke of Islamic oppression or as muslim slaves.

Yet you constantly deny the Jews these rights while trying to enforce them for arab muslim illegal immigrants who arrived in Palestine after 1921 when that treaty was signed

 

[Picaro]

Of course none of that means anything. The law is simple and clear.[/quote]

Which law was that?

All Turkish citizens who normally resided in the territory that became Palestine are Palestinian citizens.

Then why did they rely on Syrian fighters in their 'revolt' in 1935, and in 1947? Even their 'local' units were made up largely of Syrian guerrillas, and they largely obeyed Syrian calls to flee the areas when the war broke out.

How long they had lived there doesn't matter. Their religion doesn't matter. Where they came from Doesn't matter. What they called themselves doesn't matter.

This whole discussion is pointless.

Ah, so you acknowledge the European Jewish refugees and Jewish refugees expelled and driven out of Arab countries can indeed be considered indigenous Palestinians. I look forward to your denouncing of Jordan and the other Arab countries for declaring 'Jew free zones' as illegal and violations of this 'law' you're referring to, and recognizing the rights of Jews to settle and live anywhere in the original Mandate.