Who Are The Palestinains?

1. Israel and Jerusalem have not always belonged to the Jews. The Phoenician Caanites founded and ruled Jerusalem from about 2,500 BC to 1,000 BC when the Jews invaded and conquered the city. So the Jews ruled the city for less than 1,000 years.

Canaanite Phoenician Jerusalem, Urushalim, The City Founded by Shalem, Phoenician God of Dusk

2. The Encyclopedia Britanica pay per view, I certainly am not going to pay money to educate you ignoramuses. But, it won't be any different than Wiki. 99% of Middle East historians will tell you the same thing, that the Palestinians are for the most part converted Christians. No one questions it except Zionutters. Even historians like this Katz guy, who is Jewish, write the same thing:



Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted to Christianity, and later Islam, not Arab in origin

In Palestine the "small" number of Arab invaders who had been imported by the Arabian conquerors were wiped out by disease. Thus the "myth" of the "Palestinian Arab" descending "from the Arab conquerors" appears to be factually incorrect for all but perhaps a few. Supporting Hogarth, Hitti, and Lewis, the Reverend Parkes found that
"During the first century after the Arab conquest the caliph and governors of Syria and The Land [Palestine] ruled almost entirely over Christian and Jewish subjects. Apart from the bedouin [nomads], in the earliest days the only Arabs west of the Jordan (not all of whom were themselves Muslims) were the garnisons... "


"The "vast majority" remaining in Palestine was "native Christians," of "mixed origin ... carelessly known as Christian Arabs."

Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted

But, for any of you that have any brains at all, think about this. Before the Arab "hordes" there were the German "hordes". They conquered most of Europe, and sacked Rome. They ruled much of Italy thereafter. Did the Italians turn into Germans. The Germans (Franks) conquered Gaul (France), did the French turn into Germans. Same with Spain. The Germans (Visigoths) conquered Spain but the Spanish remained Iberian. And finally, an Arab "horde" analogy, Sicily was conquered and ruled by the Arabs from 831 to 1072, the Sicilians did not magically become Arabs.





Now make your mind up about what the people who lived in Palestine were. As you say when the Germanic tribes conquered Italy the Italians did not become Germanic. By the same token when the arab muslims hordes conquered Palestine the people did not become Arabic. So the people stayed Judaic and European while becoming Islamic by force.

So how did the people of Samaria and Judea suddenly become arabs, unless the arab invaders wiped them out.................

"By the same token when the arab muslims hordes conquered Palestine the people did not become Arabic."

No they became Muslim and began speaking Arabic, but they were and continue to be the Byzantine Christians that converted to islam, for the most part.
 
"Chriustians & Muslims before the time of Christ." That has got to be his best one yet. Heh Heh!



MOHOMOD Latici, he can't face the truth that Jews and Christians were in Israel thousands of years before Muslims and Arabs arrived. He keeps saying "Muslims were in Palestine before the time of Christ" when Islam is merely 1400 years old, and Arab animals invaded Israel hundreds of years after Islam arrived.

This kinda fits into the idiotic Muslim claim that Jesus, Moses, and Abraham were Muslims. Maybe they didn't know it. Ha ha ha.

Firstly, since before the time of Christ and prior to 614 AD the area was called Palestina Prima and was a province of the Roman Empire (either Western or Eastern/Byzantine).

In 614 the Persian Sassanid Empire (which was not Muslim at the time) with their Jewish allies conquered Palestina Prima from the Romans (Byzantines) they massacred most of the Christians and for a brief period it had a Jewish Governor.

The Romans retook Palestina Prima in 629 AD and the Jews were either killed, fled or converted to Christianity.

The Muslim never conquered Israel. They conquered the Roman Province of Palestina Prima for the first time in 637 when it was ruled by, and populated by Christians.

After the Muslim conquest, most Christians converted to Islam (obvious tax advantage). That is why the Muslims of Palestine today are, for the most part. the offspring of the same people that were once the Christians of Palestine. The Christian Palestinians are those that did not convert, for the most part.


Of course, the Christian Crusaders reconquered Palestine and ruled it as the Latin Kingdom from 1099 to 1187. Jews were less welcome in the Latin Kingdom than Muslims since they had helped the Muslims defend Jerusalem against the Crusaders. But, that's another part of history.




Timeline of Jerusalem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kingdom of Jerusalem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kingdom of Jerusalem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/QUOTE]
Useless response and even more useless links that have nothing to do with the discussion.

So to recap, you're fulla shit again, you haven't been able to prove "there were Muslims in Palestine since the time of Christ", just spouting more bullshit Islamist propaganda and wishful thinking that "most Christians and Jews converted" without a shred of proof for that either.

Therefore, like a good convert you simply repeat the Islamist talking points about Israel and Jerusalem, which are simply garbage.

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"He keeps saying "Muslims were in Palestine before the time of Christ"

No, you have a reading comprehension problem. As all or most historians agree on, the Palestinians of today are the offspring of the Christians of Palestine that lived in Palestine to the end of Byzantine (Christian) rule in Palestine. and many or most of those Christians converted to Islam during Muslim rule.
 
No, the Pals have been beaten and should move onto small reservations out of sight. Just like your Indians did after you massacred them.
When do they get their casinos?

Also, you do realize reservations are Native American sovereign territory and the US government has no jurisdiction there? So for your comparison to work, Israel needs to get the fuck off the Palestinian's "reservation" and let the Pals govern themselves, like "Indians" do here in the good ole US of A.
 
Poor MOHOMOD Latici, he can't face the truth that Jews and Christians were in Israel thousands of years before Muslims and Arabs arrived. He keeps saying "Muslims were in Palestine before the time of Christ" when Islam is merely 1400 years old, and Arab animals invaded Israel hundreds of years after Islam arrived.

This kinda fits into the idiotic Muslim claim that Jesus, Moses, and Abraham were Muslims. Maybe they didn't know it. Ha ha ha.

Firstly, since before the time of Christ and prior to 614 AD the area was called Palestina Prima and was a province of the Roman Empire (either Western or Eastern/Byzantine).

In 614 the Persian Sassanid Empire (which was not Muslim at the time) with their Jewish allies conquered Palestina Prima from the Romans (Byzantines) they massacred most of the Christians and for a brief period it had a Jewish Governor.

The Romans retook Palestina Prima in 629 AD and the Jews were either killed, fled or converted to Christianity.

The Muslim never conquered Israel. They conquered the Roman Province of Palestina Prima for the first time in 637 when it was ruled by, and populated by Christians.

After the Muslim conquest, most Christians converted to Islam (obvious tax advantage). That is why the Muslims of Palestine today are, for the most part. the offspring of the same people that were once the Christians of Palestine. The Christian Palestinians are those that did not convert, for the most part.


Of course, the Christian Crusaders reconquered Palestine and ruled it as the Latin Kingdom from 1099 to 1187. Jews were less welcome in the Latin Kingdom than Muslims since they had helped the Muslims defend Jerusalem against the Crusaders. But, that's another part of history.




Timeline of Jerusalem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kingdom of Jerusalem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kingdom of Jerusalem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Syrian provence was divided into Syria Prima, Syria Salutaris, Phoenice Lebanensis, Palaestina Prima, Palaestina Secunda and eventually also Palaestina Salutaris. None were states, only districts for tax purposes. The names were given by Hadrian after the jewish revolts
 
Just curious. Why do you support the land thieving Palestinian squatters on Israel's land? Is it because it's gone on now for several generations?



No, the Pals have been beaten and should move onto small reservations out of sight. Just like your Indians did after you massacred them.
When do they get their casinos?

Also, you do realize reservations are Native American sovereign territory and the US government has no jurisdiction there? So for your comparison to work, Israel needs to get the fuck off the Palestinian's "reservation" and let the Pals govern themselves, like "Indians" do here in the good ole US of A.
 
Just curious. Why do you support the land thieving Palestinian squatters on Israel's land? Is it because it's gone on now for several generations?



No, the Pals have been beaten and should move onto small reservations out of sight. Just like your Indians did after you massacred them.
When do they get their casinos?

Also, you do realize reservations are Native American sovereign territory and the US government has no jurisdiction there? So for your comparison to work, Israel needs to get the fuck off the Palestinian's "reservation" and let the Pals govern themselves, like "Indians" do here in the good ole US of A.

It wasn't Israel's land. It was Christian land before the Muslims took it.
 
How do ya like that? And here I actually believed it was the land of the Israelites. Hey Monte, did you know that Snoopy shot down the Red Baron?



Just curious. Why do you support the land thieving Palestinian squatters on Israel's land? Is it because it's gone on now for several generations?



When do they get their casinos?

Also, you do realize reservations are Native American sovereign territory and the US government has no jurisdiction there? So for your comparison to work, Israel needs to get the fuck off the Palestinian's "reservation" and let the Pals govern themselves, like "Indians" do here in the good ole US of A.

It wasn't Israel's land. It was Christian land before the Muslims took it.
 
There's that ignorance shining through again. Hamas' calls for the destruction of the Israel to be replaced by and Islamic state is not even in dispute, Vaseline mouth. LOL
That's what you claim.

And your only proof is some archaic document they made 50 years ago.

The so called Hamas charter was written by one man and was not signed by any Hamas leaders.
 
There's that ignorance shining through again. Hamas' calls for the destruction of the Israel to be replaced by and Islamic state is not even in dispute, Vaseline mouth. LOL
That's what you claim.

And your only proof is some archaic document they made 50 years ago.

The so called Hamas charter was written by one man and was not signed by any Hamas leaders.
Ya okay, keep saying that as if anybody is going to believe it. :cuckoo:
 
How do ya like that? And here I actually believed it was the land of the Israelites. Hey Monte, did you know that Snoopy shot down the Red Baron?



Just curious. Why do you support the land thieving Palestinian squatters on Israel's land? Is it because it's gone on now for several generations?

It wasn't Israel's land. It was Christian land before the Muslims took it.
So muslims have the same exact claim to the land as Israel does, they took it by force. Except those pussy arabs couldn't hold it, just like any piece of arab land that we want, we take by force: Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Afghanistan...
 
No, the Pals have been beaten and should move onto small reservations out of sight. Just like your Indians did after you massacred them.
When do they get their casinos?

Also, you do realize reservations are Native American sovereign territory and the US government has no jurisdiction there? So for your comparison to work, Israel needs to get the fuck off the Palestinian's "reservation" and let the Pals govern themselves, like "Indians" do here in the good ole US of A.

No, the Pals on already on their reservations, and if they don't surrender soon, they'll lose even more land until they do surrender, just like the Indians did, who by the way, never got land back, just like the Pals won't get..
 
So muslims have the same exact claim to the land as Israel does, they took it by force.
Wrong!

They're an indigenous population who had been living there for generations.


Except those pussy arabs couldn't hold it, just like any piece of arab land that we want, we take by force: Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Afghanistan...
That has been outlawed since the end of WWII.
 
No, the Pals on already on their reservations,
So are the Israeli's!

They're on the Pals reservations too; in contrast, the US government is not!

and if they don't surrender soon, they'll lose even more land until they do surrender, just like the Indians did, who by the way, never got land back, just like the Pals won't get..
WTF are you talking about?

They're a population under occupation; they're already past the surrendering part, you dumbass!
 
No, the Pals on already on their reservations,
So are the Israeli's!

They're on the Pals reservations too; in contrast, the US government is not!

and if they don't surrender soon, they'll lose even more land until they do surrender, just like the Indians did, who by the way, never got land back, just like the Pals won't get..
WTF are you talking about?

They're a population under occupation; they're already past the surrendering part, you dumbass!

No, because if they had surrendered, they wouldn't be shooting fireworks at Israel or trying to car bomb and bus bomb them... Japan and Germany did very well after they surrendered, and now they are a valued and trusted partner of the US. The Pals should try it. Since they suck at war anyways... Like all arab countries, btw.
 
No, the Pals on already on their reservations,
So are the Israeli's!

They're on the Pals reservations too; in contrast, the US government is not!

and if they don't surrender soon, they'll lose even more land until they do surrender, just like the Indians did, who by the way, never got land back, just like the Pals won't get..
WTF are you talking about?

They're a population under occupation; they're already past the surrendering part, you dumbass!

No, because if they had surrendered, they wouldn't be shooting fireworks at Israel or trying to car bomb and bus bomb them... Japan and Germany did very well after they surrendered, and now they are a valued and trusted partner of the US. The Pals should try it. Since they suck at war anyways... Like all arab countries, btw.

How many people in Japan or Germany were kicked out of their home and replaces by US settlers?
 

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