Who Built the Egyptian Pyramids?

Mythologies and legends and history do not have to be close geographically
in order to have apparent common roots and OVERLAP---they are the product
of Human minds and perceptions
True, but that's case by case. When we have two mythologies originating close in time and space that share many esoteric details, that is a good indicator of common roots and overlap.
fine, show the evidence.
 
Mythologies and legends and history do not have to be close geographically
in order to have apparent common roots and OVERLAP---they are the product
of Human minds and perceptions
True, but that's case by case. When we have two mythologies originating close in time and space that share many esoteric details, that is a good indicator of common roots and overlap.
for further insight-----read Erich Fromm Erik Erikson Freud "on dreams" The symbols
and the themes that the HUMAN mind CONSTRUES whether from myth or actual history
are not endless. As I have stated----even psychotic delusions, across the board, culturally and
geographically------share details.

Folktales and morality tales are not considered delusions...much less psychotic delusions.

Would you also say Aesop's Fables were psychotic delusions?
 
Mythologies and legends and history do not have to be close geographically
in order to have apparent common roots and OVERLAP---they are the product
of Human minds and perceptions
True, but that's case by case. When we have two mythologies originating close in time and space that share many esoteric details, that is a good indicator of common roots and overlap.
fine, show the evidence.


The pyramids could not have been constructed by Jewish slaves, as no archaeological remains that can be directly linked to the Jewish people have been found in Egypt that date back to 4,500 years ago, when the Giza pyramids were built, archaeological research has revealed. Additionally the story told in the Hebrew Bible about Jews being slaves in Egypt refers to a city named "Ramesses." A city named pi-Ramesses was founded during the 19th dynasty (about 1295-1186 B.C.) and was named after Ramesses II, who ruled 1279–1213 BC. This city was constructed after the era of pyramid construction had ended in Egypt.

"We have no clue, not even a single word, about early Israelites in Egypt: neither in monumental inscriptions on walls of temples, nor in tomb inscriptions, nor in papyri," wrote archaeologists Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman in their book "The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of its Sacred Texts" (The Free Press, 2001).
 
Mythologies and legends and history do not have to be close geographically
in order to have apparent common roots and OVERLAP---they are the product
of Human minds and perceptions
True, but that's case by case. When we have two mythologies originating close in time and space that share many esoteric details, that is a good indicator of common roots and overlap.
fine, show the evidence.


The pyramids could not have been constructed by Jewish slaves, as no archaeological remains that can be directly linked to the Jewish people have been found in Egypt that date back to 4,500 years ago, when the Giza pyramids were built, archaeological research has revealed. Additionally the story told in the Hebrew Bible about Jews being slaves in Egypt refers to a city named "Ramesses." A city named pi-Ramesses was founded during the 19th dynasty (about 1295-1186 B.C.) and was named after Ramesses II, who ruled 1279–1213 BC. This city was constructed after the era of pyramid construction had ended in Egypt.

"We have no clue, not even a single word, about early Israelites in Egypt: neither in monumental inscriptions on walls of temples, nor in tomb inscriptions, nor in papyri," wrote archaeologists Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman in their book "The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of its Sacred Texts" (The Free Press, 2001).

Why instead of answering the question to backup your outlandish claims,
you keep deflecting to something no one here actually said, time and time again?

Another Touret's episode?
 
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Mythologies and legends and history do not have to be close geographically
in order to have apparent common roots and OVERLAP---they are the product
of Human minds and perceptions
True, but that's case by case. When we have two mythologies originating close in time and space that share many esoteric details, that is a good indicator of common roots and overlap.
for further insight-----read Erich Fromm Erik Erikson Freud "on dreams" The symbols
and the themes that the HUMAN mind CONSTRUES whether from myth or actual history
are not endless. As I have stated----even psychotic delusions, across the board, culturally and
geographically------share details.

Folktales and morality tales are not considered delusions...much less psychotic delusions.

Would you also say Aesop's Fables were psychotic delusions?

Why not? Look beyond your typical connotation with the words 'psychotic delusions'. '
It doesn't necessarily mean a negative part of human development.

Take some time and learn about collective archetypes.
It's a fascinating subject:

 
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Mythologies and legends and history do not have to be close geographically
in order to have apparent common roots and OVERLAP---they are the product
of Human minds and perceptions
True, but that's case by case. When we have two mythologies originating close in time and space that share many esoteric details, that is a good indicator of common roots and overlap.
fine, show the evidence.


The pyramids could not have been constructed by Jewish slaves, as no archaeological remains that can be directly linked to the Jewish people have been found in Egypt that date back to 4,500 years ago, when the Giza pyramids were built, archaeological research has revealed. Additionally the story told in the Hebrew Bible about Jews being slaves in Egypt refers to a city named "Ramesses." A city named pi-Ramesses was founded during the 19th dynasty (about 1295-1186 B.C.) and was named after Ramesses II, who ruled 1279–1213 BC. This city was constructed after the era of pyramid construction had ended in Egypt.

"We have no clue, not even a single word, about early Israelites in Egypt: neither in monumental inscriptions on walls of temples, nor in tomb inscriptions, nor in papyri," wrote archaeologists Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman in their book "The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of its Sacred Texts" (The Free Press, 2001).

Why instead of answering the question to backup your outlandish claims,
you keep deflecting to something no one here actually said, time and time again?

Another Touret's episode?

I have to defer to Israel Finklestein.. a brilliant arcaheologist and to what prominent Rabbis have to say... NOT what is said here by other members of this forum.
 
To sum up surada's wide variety of "opinions" on every topic:

1. Jews don't deserve the credit

2. Let's blame the Jews

Pick randomly,
repeat in every thread.

Don't be stupid.. unless you are competing for victim status.. That's a Trump strategy.

This thread is about the pyramids and who built them not about YOU.


surada's cretincy - Round Three

"Don't be stupid, this thread is about...(pick randomly)... not about YOU"

And in the same breath: "The myth about Jews..."

:stupid:

Seriously, what would you do without us?
I love jewish mythology-----like THE DYBBUK and I am
actually convinced that the very interestiing 1001 arabian nites----
was actually authored by a jew-----for the very best and CREATIVE
jewish mythology---consult your local Imam

Wouldn't be surprised,
as if there was any wonder as to who wrote the main parts in Quran,
consult Your local Mori as to the exact family line and highest form of literary Arabic.

Our Arabs are still complaining the Arabic taught in schools is of too literary degree,
my Rabbi knows it fluently, Rambam wrote in that form,
most Jewish works in Arabic are like that...

...a miracle of course.
 
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To sum up surada's wide variety of "opinions" on every topic:

1. Jews don't deserve the credit

2. Let's blame the Jews

Pick randomly,
repeat in every thread.

Don't be stupid.. unless you are competing for victim status.. That's a Trump strategy.

This thread is about the pyramids and who built them not about YOU.


surada's cretincy - Round Three

"Don't be stupid, this thread is about...(pick randomly)... not about YOU"

And in the same breath: "The myth about Jews..."

:stupid:

Seriously, what would you do without us?
I love jewish mythology-----like THE DYBBUK and I am
actually convinced that the very interestiing 1001 arabian nites----
was actually authored by a jew-----for the very best and CREATIVE
jewish mythology---consult your local Imam

Wouldn't be surprised,
as if there was any wonder as to who wrote the main parts in Quran,
consult Your local Mori as to the exact family line and highest form of literary Arabic.

Our Arabs are still complaining the Arabic taught in schools is of too literary degree,
my Rabbi knows it fluently, Rambam wrote in that form,
most Jewish works in Arabic are like that...

...a miracle of course.
I wish-----my Mori has very limited arabic----mostly something he yells out the
car window IN HEAVY TRAFFIC.
 
Mythologies and legends and history do not have to be close geographically
in order to have apparent common roots and OVERLAP---they are the product
of Human minds and perceptions
True, but that's case by case. When we have two mythologies originating close in time and space that share many esoteric details, that is a good indicator of common roots and overlap.
fine, show the evidence.


The pyramids could not have been constructed by Jewish slaves, as no archaeological remains that can be directly linked to the Jewish people have been found in Egypt that date back to 4,500 years ago, when the Giza pyramids were built, archaeological research has revealed. Additionally the story told in the Hebrew Bible about Jews being slaves in Egypt refers to a city named "Ramesses." A city named pi-Ramesses was founded during the 19th dynasty (about 1295-1186 B.C.) and was named after Ramesses II, who ruled 1279–1213 BC. This city was constructed after the era of pyramid construction had ended in Egypt.

"We have no clue, not even a single word, about early Israelites in Egypt: neither in monumental inscriptions on walls of temples, nor in tomb inscriptions, nor in papyri," wrote archaeologists Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman in their book "The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of its Sacred Texts" (The Free Press, 2001).

Why instead of answering the question to backup your outlandish claims,
you keep deflecting to something no one here actually said, time and time again?

Another Touret's episode?

I have to defer to Israel Finklestein.. a brilliant arcaheologist and to what prominent Rabbis have to say... NOT what is said here by other members of this forum.

oh FINKLESTEIN----that EUROPEAN REFUGEE !!!!!! he specializes in an iconoclastic
view which so many of those EUROPEAN REFUGEES see as intellectualism. He probably
has "litvak" blood
 
Mythologies and legends and history do not have to be close geographically
in order to have apparent common roots and OVERLAP---they are the product
of Human minds and perceptions
True, but that's case by case. When we have two mythologies originating close in time and space that share many esoteric details, that is a good indicator of common roots and overlap.
fine, show the evidence.


The pyramids could not have been constructed by Jewish slaves, as no archaeological remains that can be directly linked to the Jewish people have been found in Egypt that date back to 4,500 years ago, when the Giza pyramids were built, archaeological research has revealed. Additionally the story told in the Hebrew Bible about Jews being slaves in Egypt refers to a city named "Ramesses." A city named pi-Ramesses was founded during the 19th dynasty (about 1295-1186 B.C.) and was named after Ramesses II, who ruled 1279–1213 BC. This city was constructed after the era of pyramid construction had ended in Egypt.

"We have no clue, not even a single word, about early Israelites in Egypt: neither in monumental inscriptions on walls of temples, nor in tomb inscriptions, nor in papyri," wrote archaeologists Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman in their book "The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of its Sacred Texts" (The Free Press, 2001).

Why instead of answering the question to backup your outlandish claims,
you keep deflecting to something no one here actually said, time and time again?

Another Touret's episode?

I have to defer to Israel Finklestein.. a brilliant arcaheologist and to what prominent Rabbis have to say... NOT what is said here by other members of this forum.

oh FINKLESTEIN----that EUROPEAN REFUGEE !!!!!! he specializes in an iconoclastic
view which so many of those EUROPEAN REFUGEES see as intellectualism. He probably
has "litvak" blood

Finkelstein brilliant.. and honest. Archaeology is NOT political and shouldn't be. That's how Yigal Yadim ruined his work at Massada.
 
Mythologies and legends and history do not have to be close geographically
in order to have apparent common roots and OVERLAP---they are the product
of Human minds and perceptions
True, but that's case by case. When we have two mythologies originating close in time and space that share many esoteric details, that is a good indicator of common roots and overlap.
fine, show the evidence.


The pyramids could not have been constructed by Jewish slaves, as no archaeological remains that can be directly linked to the Jewish people have been found in Egypt that date back to 4,500 years ago, when the Giza pyramids were built, archaeological research has revealed. Additionally the story told in the Hebrew Bible about Jews being slaves in Egypt refers to a city named "Ramesses." A city named pi-Ramesses was founded during the 19th dynasty (about 1295-1186 B.C.) and was named after Ramesses II, who ruled 1279–1213 BC. This city was constructed after the era of pyramid construction had ended in Egypt.

"We have no clue, not even a single word, about early Israelites in Egypt: neither in monumental inscriptions on walls of temples, nor in tomb inscriptions, nor in papyri," wrote archaeologists Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman in their book "The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of its Sacred Texts" (The Free Press, 2001).

Why instead of answering the question to backup your outlandish claims,
you keep deflecting to something no one here actually said, time and time again?

Another Touret's episode?
leave him/her/it alone----- its posts, simply, support the biblical and midrashic account
which never attributed the Giza pyramids to jews. Its problem in logic is that IT inserted
a false claim-------something like JEWS CLAIM TO HAVE BUILT THE PYRAMIDS AT
GIZA.
 
Mythologies and legends and history do not have to be close geographically
in order to have apparent common roots and OVERLAP---they are the product
of Human minds and perceptions
True, but that's case by case. When we have two mythologies originating close in time and space that share many esoteric details, that is a good indicator of common roots and overlap.
fine, show the evidence.


The pyramids could not have been constructed by Jewish slaves, as no archaeological remains that can be directly linked to the Jewish people have been found in Egypt that date back to 4,500 years ago, when the Giza pyramids were built, archaeological research has revealed. Additionally the story told in the Hebrew Bible about Jews being slaves in Egypt refers to a city named "Ramesses." A city named pi-Ramesses was founded during the 19th dynasty (about 1295-1186 B.C.) and was named after Ramesses II, who ruled 1279–1213 BC. This city was constructed after the era of pyramid construction had ended in Egypt.

"We have no clue, not even a single word, about early Israelites in Egypt: neither in monumental inscriptions on walls of temples, nor in tomb inscriptions, nor in papyri," wrote archaeologists Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman in their book "The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of its Sacred Texts" (The Free Press, 2001).

Why instead of answering the question to backup your outlandish claims,
you keep deflecting to something no one here actually said, time and time again?

Another Touret's episode?

I have to defer to Israel Finklestein.. a brilliant arcaheologist and to what prominent Rabbis have to say... NOT what is said here by other members of this forum.

But instead you pick and choose headlines from works you didn't read,
and make outlandish claims and leaps of logic than none of the authors do.

Why, because you can't address or discuss anything anyone says,
but that single strawman...you just know nothing beside that.

Still wonder why Greece produces more books
than all the Arab world, yearly combined?
 
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Mythologies and legends and history do not have to be close geographically
in order to have apparent common roots and OVERLAP---they are the product
of Human minds and perceptions
True, but that's case by case. When we have two mythologies originating close in time and space that share many esoteric details, that is a good indicator of common roots and overlap.
fine, show the evidence.


The pyramids could not have been constructed by Jewish slaves, as no archaeological remains that can be directly linked to the Jewish people have been found in Egypt that date back to 4,500 years ago, when the Giza pyramids were built, archaeological research has revealed. Additionally the story told in the Hebrew Bible about Jews being slaves in Egypt refers to a city named "Ramesses." A city named pi-Ramesses was founded during the 19th dynasty (about 1295-1186 B.C.) and was named after Ramesses II, who ruled 1279–1213 BC. This city was constructed after the era of pyramid construction had ended in Egypt.

"We have no clue, not even a single word, about early Israelites in Egypt: neither in monumental inscriptions on walls of temples, nor in tomb inscriptions, nor in papyri," wrote archaeologists Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman in their book "The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of its Sacred Texts" (The Free Press, 2001).

Why instead of answering the question to backup your outlandish claims,
you keep deflecting to something no one here actually said, time and time again?

Another Touret's episode?

I have to defer to Israel Finklestein.. a brilliant arcaheologist and to what prominent Rabbis have to say... NOT what is said here by other members of this forum.

oh FINKLESTEIN----that EUROPEAN REFUGEE !!!!!! he specializes in an iconoclastic
view which so many of those EUROPEAN REFUGEES see as intellectualism. He probably
has "litvak" blood

Finkelstein brilliant.. and honest. Archaeology is NOT political and shouldn't be. That's how Yigal Yadim ruined his work at Massada.
~~~~~~~~ wishful thinking again ^^^^ it fascinates me how "some people"
love Josephus but ONLY when they can cherry pick him
 
Mythologies and legends and history do not have to be close geographically
in order to have apparent common roots and OVERLAP---they are the product
of Human minds and perceptions
True, but that's case by case. When we have two mythologies originating close in time and space that share many esoteric details, that is a good indicator of common roots and overlap.
fine, show the evidence.


The pyramids could not have been constructed by Jewish slaves, as no archaeological remains that can be directly linked to the Jewish people have been found in Egypt that date back to 4,500 years ago, when the Giza pyramids were built, archaeological research has revealed. Additionally the story told in the Hebrew Bible about Jews being slaves in Egypt refers to a city named "Ramesses." A city named pi-Ramesses was founded during the 19th dynasty (about 1295-1186 B.C.) and was named after Ramesses II, who ruled 1279–1213 BC. This city was constructed after the era of pyramid construction had ended in Egypt.

"We have no clue, not even a single word, about early Israelites in Egypt: neither in monumental inscriptions on walls of temples, nor in tomb inscriptions, nor in papyri," wrote archaeologists Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman in their book "The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of its Sacred Texts" (The Free Press, 2001).

Why instead of answering the question to backup your outlandish claims,
you keep deflecting to something no one here actually said, time and time again?

Another Touret's episode?

I have to defer to Israel Finklestein.. a brilliant arcaheologist and to what prominent Rabbis have to say... NOT what is said here by other members of this forum.

oh FINKLESTEIN----that EUROPEAN REFUGEE !!!!!! he specializes in an iconoclastic
view which so many of those EUROPEAN REFUGEES see as intellectualism. He probably
has "litvak" blood

Finkelstein brilliant.. and honest. Archaeology is NOT political and shouldn't be. That's how Yigal Yadim ruined his work at Massada.
~~~~~~~~ wishful thinking again ^^^^ it fascinates me how "some people"
love Josephus but ONLY when they can cherry pick him

LOLOL.. I didn't say anything about Josephus.
 
Mythologies and legends and history do not have to be close geographically
in order to have apparent common roots and OVERLAP---they are the product
of Human minds and perceptions
True, but that's case by case. When we have two mythologies originating close in time and space that share many esoteric details, that is a good indicator of common roots and overlap.
fine, show the evidence.


The pyramids could not have been constructed by Jewish slaves, as no archaeological remains that can be directly linked to the Jewish people have been found in Egypt that date back to 4,500 years ago, when the Giza pyramids were built, archaeological research has revealed. Additionally the story told in the Hebrew Bible about Jews being slaves in Egypt refers to a city named "Ramesses." A city named pi-Ramesses was founded during the 19th dynasty (about 1295-1186 B.C.) and was named after Ramesses II, who ruled 1279–1213 BC. This city was constructed after the era of pyramid construction had ended in Egypt.

"We have no clue, not even a single word, about early Israelites in Egypt: neither in monumental inscriptions on walls of temples, nor in tomb inscriptions, nor in papyri," wrote archaeologists Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman in their book "The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of its Sacred Texts" (The Free Press, 2001).

Why instead of answering the question to backup your outlandish claims,
you keep deflecting to something no one here actually said, time and time again?

Another Touret's episode?

I have to defer to Israel Finklestein.. a brilliant arcaheologist and to what prominent Rabbis have to say... NOT what is said here by other members of this forum.

oh FINKLESTEIN----that EUROPEAN REFUGEE !!!!!! he specializes in an iconoclastic
view which so many of those EUROPEAN REFUGEES see as intellectualism. He probably
has "litvak" blood

Finkelstein brilliant.. and honest. Archaeology is NOT political and shouldn't be. That's how Yigal Yadim ruined his work at Massada.
~~~~~~~~ wishful thinking again ^^^^ it fascinates me how "some people"
love Josephus but ONLY when they can cherry pick him

LOLOL.. I didn't say anything about Josephus.
I wasn't referring to you.
 

There is NO evidence that the Hebrews were ever in Egypt.

Live Science
Who built the Egyptian pyramids?
Owen Jarus 3 hrs ago


Egypt's pyramids are an archaeological marvel, rising high above the desert sands and visible for miles on end. Building these pyramids was undoubtedly a mammoth task, so who were the individuals that pulled it off?

a man riding a horse in a desert with Great Pyramid of Giza in the background: A Bedouin on a camel by the Pyramids of Khafre and Menkaure at the Giza Necropolis in Egypt.© Provided by Live Science A Bedouin on a camel by the Pyramids of Khafre and Menkaure at the Giza Necropolis in Egypt.
There are many theories about who built Egypt's pyramids, including large teams of enslaved Jewish people and wilder ideas, such as inhabitants of the 'lost' city of Atlantis or even aliens.

None of these theories, however, have evidence to back them up.

The pyramids could not have been constructed by Jewish slaves, as no archaeological remains that can be directly linked to the Jewish people have been found in Egypt that date back to 4,500 years ago, when the Giza pyramids were built, archaeological research has revealed. Additionally the story told in the Hebrew Bible about Jews being slaves in Egypt refers to a city named "Ramesses." A city named pi-Ramesses was founded during the 19th dynasty (about 1295-1186 B.C.) and was named after Ramesses II, who ruled 1279–1213 BC. This city was constructed after the era of pyramid construction had ended in Egypt.

"We have no clue, not even a single word, about early Israelites in Egypt: neither in monumental inscriptions on walls of temples, nor in tomb inscriptions, nor in papyri," wrote archaeologists Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman in their book "The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of its Sacred Texts" (The Free Press, 2001).

What's more, no archaeological evidence has ever been found for the lost city of Atlantis in any time period, and many scholars believe that the story is fictional. As for aliens, well, that idea is out of this world.

In fact, all the evidence shows that the ancient Egyptians built the pyramids, Egyptologists say. But how the pyramid builders lived, how they were compensated and how they were treated is a mystery that researchers are still investigating.

The pyramids and their builders
Egypt has more than 100 ancient pyramids, but its most famous include the first step pyramid, built during the reign of the pharaoh Djoser (about 2630-2611 B.C.), and the first true pyramid — one that has smooth sides — built under the rule of pharaoh Snefru (about 2575-2551 B.C.), Mark Lehner wrote in his book, "The Complete Pyramids: Solving the Ancient Mysteries" (Thames & Hudson, 2008). The Great Pyramid was constructed at Giza during the reign of pharaoh Khufu (about 2551-2528 B.C.), and two of his successors, Khafre (about 2520-2494 B.C.) and Menkaure (about 2490-2472 B.C.), also had pyramids built at Giza.

Pharaohs gradually stopped building pyramids during the New Kingdom (1550-1070 B.C.), choosing instead to be buried in the Valley of the Kings, which is located about 300 miles (483 km) south of Giza, Lehner noted in his book. Over the past few decades, archaeologists have found new pieces of evidence that provide clues as to who the pyramid builders were and how they lived.

Surviving written records, including papyri discovered in 2013 at Wadi al-Jarf on Egypt's Red Sea coast, indicate that large groups of workers — sometimes translated as "gangs" — helped bring material to Giza. The papyri found at Wadi al-Jarf tell of a group of 200 men headed by an inspector named Merer. The group of workers transported limestone by boat along the Nile River a distance of about 11 miles (18 kilometers) from Tura to the Great Pyramid, where the stone was used to build the outer casing of the monument.

In the past, Egyptologists had theorized that the pyramid builders were largely made up of seasonal agricultural workers who had reached a point in the year in which there was little agricultural work to be done. However, it remains to be seen whether this is actually true. The papyri detailing the pyramid's histories are still in the process of being deciphered and analyzed, but the results indicate that the gang led by Merer did far more than help with pyramid construction.

continued
They had help from aliens. There's no way humans could have done that. We'd have trouble doing that today, nevermind trying to float the stones down the Nile on papyrus boats 5000 years ago.
 

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