Who else has made the claim that, "the press [media] is the enemy of the people"?

[SandSquid]

Supporters of Jussie Smollett were quick to post to social media in the beginning. Now it's his doubters. - CNN

In fact they even call out the people who quickly ran to his defense without the whole story.

But when they call out those who came up with fake stories about how immigrants and drugs come through the ungaurded borders when the facts from the DEA and DHS oppose that, they become the enemy? Yeah right.

 

[Esmeralda]

So you think that purposefully disingenuous reporting and the favoring of opinion over facts is good for "the people"?

You're as bad as he is.

So we have completely unbiased news in this country?

Not necessarily, but calling the free press the enemy of the people is what a dictator does. It is a free press. It is up to the individual to use his or her own critical thinking skills in order to decide what is truth and what isn't. When a dictator disallows a free press, he institutes a state press that only tells the story from his point of view, as is done in Russia, where reporters who criticize Putin are assassinated. Is that what you want? Only Trump's version of reality? Move to Russia or North Korea if that is the kind of controlled press you want.

The press isn't free, in fact the press is a slave to television ratings and click numbers on the web

News outlets want to make the people who buy ads happy and really don't care about the news or the truth.

And I do think that biased news sources are harmful to the public

They are free to say what they want: they are not controlled by the government. You don't understand the nature of a free press. If any journalist allows him/herself to be influenced by someone else, he is free to do so. Period. A free press means it is not controlled by government. Duh.

 

[SandSquid]

...so Trump is just personally flawed but means well, while there is a huge secret conspiracy among all the different media outlets to screw The People.

Is that about right?

BINGO!

Follow up question - why is so much of what is peddled on the right hinges on conspiracy theory premise that never pans out?

Conspiracy theories?
Like the Kavanaugh debacle in the press, or the Covington Catholic kids being smeared by the press?
I laugh at your ignorance whether willfully or unintentional


The media is disportionately leans left and shows the bias.
THAT is not a conspiracy theory.

Last night I was looking for the Smollett news on CNN and MSNBC, didn't see it.
They were too busy going after Trump and the wall.
But, when Smollett first came out with the beatdown a few weeks ago,
They were all over it like flies on honey.
That is not a conspiracy theory.

A lie travels half way around the world before the truth gets his boots on.

Now go back to your tweets

And literally the top topic when I type in CNN.com is "Police say Smollett Exploited pain of racism". and 8 other articles on it.

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So... your conspiracy theory is MSNBC and CNN aren't covering Smollett.. And checking them right now, between the two, 18 articles on it made their top page!



Come on man, quit the fake news conspiracy theories and get yourself back to reality. How can you look at that and say you can't find it?


This is why when Trumpettes make these claims people come back on them with facts. And that's why they are the "enemy of the people"? For fact checking your lies? Come on man.

Sorry, I should have said that I was looking on the television. Andy, they may have been on the television, just not on primetime when I was looking.

So you are making the claim that both CNN and MSNBC's primetime coverage didn't cover the Smollett case too now? Are you sure you want to stick with that claim?

 

[Esmeralda]

So you think that purposefully disingenuous reporting and the favoring of opinion over facts is good for "the people"?

You're as bad as he is.

So we have completely unbiased news in this country?

Not necessarily, but calling the free press the enemy of the people is what a dictator does. It is a free press. It is up to the individual to use his or her own critical thinking skills in order to decide what is truth and what isn't. When a dictator disallows a free press, he institutes a state press that only tells the story from his point of view, as is done in Russia, where reporters who criticize Putin are assassinated. Is that what you want? Only Trump's version of reality? Move to Russia or North Korea if that is the kind of controlled press you want.

No, what a dictator does is actively suppress any free press, and replaces it with government versions of said press.

Any dictator that just mouths off about a hostile press and doesn't do anything about it is a piss poor dictator.

What we want is a press that isn't comprised of Democratic party lap dogs, apologists, and fellow travellers.

Drumph is a wannabe dictator: fortunately, so far, in America he cannot become one and suppress the press. The Democratic party has no control over the press. If you think so, you're an idiot.

 

[martybegan]

So you think that purposefully disingenuous reporting and the favoring of opinion over facts is good for "the people"?

You're as bad as he is.

So we have completely unbiased news in this country?

Not necessarily, but calling the free press the enemy of the people is what a dictator does. It is a free press. It is up to the individual to use his or her own critical thinking skills in order to decide what is truth and what isn't. When a dictator disallows a free press, he institutes a state press that only tells the story from his point of view, as is done in Russia, where reporters who criticize Putin are assassinated. Is that what you want? Only Trump's version of reality? Move to Russia or North Korea if that is the kind of controlled press you want.

No, what a dictator does is actively suppress any free press, and replaces it with government versions of said press.

Any dictator that just mouths off about a hostile press and doesn't do anything about it is a piss poor dictator.

What we want is a press that isn't comprised of Democratic party lap dogs, apologists, and fellow travellers.

Drumph is a wannabe dictator: fortunately, so far, in America he cannot become one and suppress the press. The Democratic party has no control over the press. If you think so, you're an idiot.

Only in your progressive addled head. It's the construct you create to keep up your "two minute hate".

The Dem's don't have to control the press, the Dem's ARE the press. Why resort to control when you have willing shills working with you?

 

[Meister]

BINGO!

Follow up question - why is so much of what is peddled on the right hinges on conspiracy theory premise that never pans out?

Conspiracy theories?
Like the Kavanaugh debacle in the press, or the Covington Catholic kids being smeared by the press?
I laugh at your ignorance whether willfully or unintentional


The media is disportionately leans left and shows the bias.
THAT is not a conspiracy theory.

Last night I was looking for the Smollett news on CNN and MSNBC, didn't see it.
They were too busy going after Trump and the wall.
But, when Smollett first came out with the beatdown a few weeks ago,
They were all over it like flies on honey.
That is not a conspiracy theory.

A lie travels half way around the world before the truth gets his boots on.

Now go back to your tweets

And literally the top topic when I type in CNN.com is "Police say Smollett Exploited pain of racism". and 8 other articles on it.

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So... your conspiracy theory is MSNBC and CNN aren't covering Smollett.. And checking them right now, between the two, 18 articles on it made their top page!



Come on man, quit the fake news conspiracy theories and get yourself back to reality. How can you look at that and say you can't find it?


This is why when Trumpettes make these claims people come back on them with facts. And that's why they are the "enemy of the people"? For fact checking your lies? Come on man.

Sorry, I should have said that I was looking on the television. And, they may have been on the television, just not on primetime when I was looking.

So you are making the claim that both CNN and MSNBC's primetime coverage didn't cover the Smollett case too now? Are you sure you want to stick with that claim?

I think you need to go back and read what I posted, I did qualify my answer. Learn to read

 

[Meister]

So you think that purposefully disingenuous reporting and the favoring of opinion over facts is good for "the people"?

You're as bad as he is.

So we have completely unbiased news in this country?

Not necessarily, but calling the free press the enemy of the people is what a dictator does. It is a free press. It is up to the individual to use his or her own critical thinking skills in order to decide what is truth and what isn't. When a dictator disallows a free press, he institutes a state press that only tells the story from his point of view, as is done in Russia, where reporters who criticize Putin are assassinated. Is that what you want? Only Trump's version of reality? Move to Russia or North Korea if that is the kind of controlled press you want.

No, what a dictator does is actively suppress any free press, and replaces it with government versions of said press.

Any dictator that just mouths off about a hostile press and doesn't do anything about it is a piss poor dictator.

What we want is a press that isn't comprised of Democratic party lap dogs, apologists, and fellow travellers.

Drumph is a wannabe dictator: fortunately, so far, in America he cannot become one and suppress the press. The Democratic party has no control over the press. If you think so, you're an idiot.

Why would the democrats need to control the press, the press is complicit with the democrats.

 

[SandSquid]

...so Trump is just personally flawed but means well, while there is a huge secret conspiracy among all the different media outlets to screw The People.

Is that about right?

BINGO!

Follow up question - why is so much of what is peddled on the right hinges on conspiracy theory premise that never pans out?

Conspiracy theories?
Like the Kavanaugh debacle in the press, or the Covington Catholic kids being smeared by the press?
I laugh at your ignorance whether willfully or unintentional


The media is disportionately leans left and shows the bias.
THAT is not a conspiracy theory.

Last night I was looking for the Smollett news on CNN and MSNBC, didn't see it.
They were too busy going after Trump and the wall.
But, when Smollett first came out with the beatdown a few weeks ago,
They were all over it like flies on honey.
That is not a conspiracy theory.

A lie travels half way around the world before the truth gets his boots on.

Now go back to your tweets

And literally the top topic when I type in CNN.com is "Police say Smollett Exploited pain of racism". and 8 other articles on it.

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So... your conspiracy theory is MSNBC and CNN aren't covering Smollett.. And checking them right now, between the two, 18 articles on it made their top page!



Come on man, quit the fake news conspiracy theories and get yourself back to reality. How can you look at that and say you can't find it?


This is why when Trumpettes make these claims people come back on them with facts. And that's why they are the "enemy of the people"? For fact checking your lies? Come on man.

Sorry, I should have said that I was looking on the television. Andy, they may have been on the television, just not on primetime when I was looking.

So..... Just making it up out of thin air to support your story?

THAT is the issue. FACTS take a sideline to telling a good story that people wish was true. And they (this includes Trump) would rather pass on lies than facts and hope they aren't fact checked. And those who do fact check them get thrown in the "enemy of the people" group.

 

[Esmeralda]

You're as bad as he is.

So we have completely unbiased news in this country?

Not necessarily, but calling the free press the enemy of the people is what a dictator does. It is a free press. It is up to the individual to use his or her own critical thinking skills in order to decide what is truth and what isn't. When a dictator disallows a free press, he institutes a state press that only tells the story from his point of view, as is done in Russia, where reporters who criticize Putin are assassinated. Is that what you want? Only Trump's version of reality? Move to Russia or North Korea if that is the kind of controlled press you want.

No, what a dictator does is actively suppress any free press, and replaces it with government versions of said press.

Any dictator that just mouths off about a hostile press and doesn't do anything about it is a piss poor dictator.

What we want is a press that isn't comprised of Democratic party lap dogs, apologists, and fellow travellers.

Drumph is a wannabe dictator: fortunately, so far, in America he cannot become one and suppress the press. The Democratic party has no control over the press. If you think so, you're an idiot.

Only in your progressive addled head. It's the construct you create to keep up your "two minute hate".

The Dem's don't have to control the press, the Dem's ARE the press. Why resort to control when you have willing shills working with you?

That is absolutely idiot. You have some kind of mental illness. Over the top paranoia that skews your ability to see reality. Get help.

 

[Esmeralda]

You're as bad as he is.

So we have completely unbiased news in this country?

Not necessarily, but calling the free press the enemy of the people is what a dictator does. It is a free press. It is up to the individual to use his or her own critical thinking skills in order to decide what is truth and what isn't. When a dictator disallows a free press, he institutes a state press that only tells the story from his point of view, as is done in Russia, where reporters who criticize Putin are assassinated. Is that what you want? Only Trump's version of reality? Move to Russia or North Korea if that is the kind of controlled press you want.

No, what a dictator does is actively suppress any free press, and replaces it with government versions of said press.

Any dictator that just mouths off about a hostile press and doesn't do anything about it is a piss poor dictator.

What we want is a press that isn't comprised of Democratic party lap dogs, apologists, and fellow travellers.

Drumph is a wannabe dictator: fortunately, so far, in America he cannot become one and suppress the press. The Democratic party has no control over the press. If you think so, you're an idiot.

Why would the democrats need to control the press, the press is complicit with the democrats.

You are believing all the crap your RW nut cases tell you. They are skewing your reality. Get help.

 

[TNHarley]

Millions of Americans
They ARE an enemy of the people. Just like your statism and licking the shoes of our elites

Trumptardism is contagious it seems.

You seriously imagine that people in the media wake up and think to themselves - hmm, how can I screw The People today?

IDK about that. Hmmm what does explain their bullshit?

Well if your standard of "enemy of the people" is just spreading inacurate or biased information, then you MUST agree that Trump is a HUGE enemy of the people.

I think trump is more stupid and ignorant than trying to cause division like the media.

...so Trump is just personally flawed but means well, while there is a huge secret conspiracy among all the different media outlets to screw The People.

Is that about right?

I dont think its a conspiracy between the media.

 

[BlindBoo]

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A frighteningly similar compound that those two evil fellows are drinking, is essential in the manufacturing of Atomic Bombs too! Saddam stockpiled millions of pound of it too. He was trying to make a bomb!


Di-hydrogen-oxide.

Well, besides our "beloved" demagogue-in-chief, other notable world leaders have uttered the same exact sentiment. Among them we have had:

Stalin
Mao
Nixon
Duerte
Chavez

Reality is a bitch......

/—-/ Obozo said our Construction was fundamentally flawed. Who else ever said that?

Students of the Civil War?

 

[Lesh]

Let's be clear. The press reported the facts as they stood in the Smollett case.

Law Enforcement was proceeding on the assumption that his claims had merit until investigation proved otherwise and THAT is what the press reported.

Claiming that is an example of them being the "enemy of the people" is wrong and exceptionally dangerous to our Democracy

 

[Lesh]

Discourse in Danger: Attacks on Free Expression in Putin’s Russia

And that doesn't even touch on the number of journalists who have been jailed...those killed in "random street attacks"..

Nor does it touch on Putin cronies being given ownership (in silent partnership with Putin himself) of the press organizations in Russia.

That's the model you folks are heading for

 

[Meister]

So we have completely unbiased news in this country?

Not necessarily, but calling the free press the enemy of the people is what a dictator does. It is a free press. It is up to the individual to use his or her own critical thinking skills in order to decide what is truth and what isn't. When a dictator disallows a free press, he institutes a state press that only tells the story from his point of view, as is done in Russia, where reporters who criticize Putin are assassinated. Is that what you want? Only Trump's version of reality? Move to Russia or North Korea if that is the kind of controlled press you want.

No, what a dictator does is actively suppress any free press, and replaces it with government versions of said press.

Any dictator that just mouths off about a hostile press and doesn't do anything about it is a piss poor dictator.

What we want is a press that isn't comprised of Democratic party lap dogs, apologists, and fellow travellers.

Drumph is a wannabe dictator: fortunately, so far, in America he cannot become one and suppress the press. The Democratic party has no control over the press. If you think so, you're an idiot.

Why would the democrats need to control the press, the press is complicit with the democrats.

You are believing all the crap your RW nut cases tell you. They are skewing your reality. Get help.

Seriously? There has been studies done to prove the point. You want to arbitrarily deny it, feel free, I'm not here to change your mind.
The Media Bubble Is Real — And Worse Than You Think
Conservatives Are Right. The News Media is Very Liberal
Media bias continues: 90% of Trump coverage in last three months has been negative: Study

Here’s how 20 major media outlets rank on Groseclose and Milyo’s slant scale, with 100 representing the most liberal and zero the most conservative:

ABC Good Morning America 56.1
ABC World News Tonight 61.0
CBS Early Show 66.6
CBS Evening News 73.7
CNN NewsNight with Aaron Brown 56.0
Drudge Report 60.4
Fox News Spec. Rept. w/ Brit Hume 39.7
Los Angeles Times 70.0
NBC Nightly News 61.6
NBC Today Show 64.0
New York Times 73.7
Newshour with Jim Lehrer 55.8
Newsweek 66.3
NPR Morning Edition 66.3
Time Magazine 65.4

U.S. News and World Report 65.8
USA Today 63.4
Wall Street Journal 85.1
Washington Post 66.6
Washington Times 35.4
How Biased Is Your Media? (Ep. 62) - Freakonomics

Looks more like you are the one that is blinded

 

[martybegan]

So we have completely unbiased news in this country?

Not necessarily, but calling the free press the enemy of the people is what a dictator does. It is a free press. It is up to the individual to use his or her own critical thinking skills in order to decide what is truth and what isn't. When a dictator disallows a free press, he institutes a state press that only tells the story from his point of view, as is done in Russia, where reporters who criticize Putin are assassinated. Is that what you want? Only Trump's version of reality? Move to Russia or North Korea if that is the kind of controlled press you want.

No, what a dictator does is actively suppress any free press, and replaces it with government versions of said press.

Any dictator that just mouths off about a hostile press and doesn't do anything about it is a piss poor dictator.

What we want is a press that isn't comprised of Democratic party lap dogs, apologists, and fellow travellers.

Drumph is a wannabe dictator: fortunately, so far, in America he cannot become one and suppress the press. The Democratic party has no control over the press. If you think so, you're an idiot.

Only in your progressive addled head. It's the construct you create to keep up your "two minute hate".

The Dem's don't have to control the press, the Dem's ARE the press. Why resort to control when you have willing shills working with you?

That is absolutely idiot. You have some kind of mental illness. Over the top paranoia that skews your ability to see reality. Get help.

Yes, because ranting about Trump being a embryonic dictator isn't paranoid....

and the word is "idiotic"

 

[Meister]

BINGO!

Follow up question - why is so much of what is peddled on the right hinges on conspiracy theory premise that never pans out?

Conspiracy theories?
Like the Kavanaugh debacle in the press, or the Covington Catholic kids being smeared by the press?
I laugh at your ignorance whether willfully or unintentional


The media is disportionately leans left and shows the bias.
THAT is not a conspiracy theory.

Last night I was looking for the Smollett news on CNN and MSNBC, didn't see it.
They were too busy going after Trump and the wall.
But, when Smollett first came out with the beatdown a few weeks ago,
They were all over it like flies on honey.
That is not a conspiracy theory.

A lie travels half way around the world before the truth gets his boots on.

Now go back to your tweets

And literally the top topic when I type in CNN.com is "Police say Smollett Exploited pain of racism". and 8 other articles on it.

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So... your conspiracy theory is MSNBC and CNN aren't covering Smollett.. And checking them right now, between the two, 18 articles on it made their top page!



Come on man, quit the fake news conspiracy theories and get yourself back to reality. How can you look at that and say you can't find it?


This is why when Trumpettes make these claims people come back on them with facts. And that's why they are the "enemy of the people"? For fact checking your lies? Come on man.

Sorry, I should have said that I was looking on the television. Andy, they may have been on the television, just not on primetime when I was looking.

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So..... Just making it up out of thin air to support your story?

THAT is the issue. FACTS take a sideline to telling a good story that people wish was true. And they (this includes Trump) would rather pass on lies than facts and hope they aren't fact checked. And those who do fact check them get thrown in the "enemy of the people" group.

You still have a comprehension problem with what I said.
What time was that program on?

 

[Meister]

BINGO!

Follow up question - why is so much of what is peddled on the right hinges on conspiracy theory premise that never pans out?

Conspiracy theories?
Like the Kavanaugh debacle in the press, or the Covington Catholic kids being smeared by the press?
I laugh at your ignorance whether willfully or unintentional


The media is disportionately leans left and shows the bias.
THAT is not a conspiracy theory.

Last night I was looking for the Smollett news on CNN and MSNBC, didn't see it.
They were too busy going after Trump and the wall.
But, when Smollett first came out with the beatdown a few weeks ago,
They were all over it like flies on honey.
That is not a conspiracy theory.

A lie travels half way around the world before the truth gets his boots on.

Now go back to your tweets

And literally the top topic when I type in CNN.com is "Police say Smollett Exploited pain of racism". and 8 other articles on it.

View attachment 247031
View attachment 247033



So... your conspiracy theory is MSNBC and CNN aren't covering Smollett.. And checking them right now, between the two, 18 articles on it made their top page!



Come on man, quit the fake news conspiracy theories and get yourself back to reality. How can you look at that and say you can't find it?


This is why when Trumpettes make these claims people come back on them with facts. And that's why they are the "enemy of the people"? For fact checking your lies? Come on man.

Sorry, I should have said that I was looking on the television. Andy, they may have been on the television, just not on primetime when I was looking.

View attachment 247035

So..... Just making it up out of thin air to support your story?

THAT is the issue. FACTS take a sideline to telling a good story that people wish was true. And they (this includes Trump) would rather pass on lies than facts and hope they aren't fact checked. And those who do fact check them get thrown in the "enemy of the people" group.

Hmmmm, Lemon is on 10PM week nights. Sorry, I was looking at the 6pm hour. So it wasn't primetime at all,
but at 10pm at night. Got it.

 

[Stephen Brandon]

They're the best friend of corporations, the military industrial complex, every lying unelected intelligence officer, and by the way, when has anyone on CNN ever said a word about getting money out of politics? They're the enemy of the people alright, for these reasons and more. Not because Donald J says so.

 

[Lesh]

Not necessarily, but calling the free press the enemy of the people is what a dictator does. It is a free press. It is up to the individual to use his or her own critical thinking skills in order to decide what is truth and what isn't. When a dictator disallows a free press, he institutes a state press that only tells the story from his point of view, as is done in Russia, where reporters who criticize Putin are assassinated. Is that what you want? Only Trump's version of reality? Move to Russia or North Korea if that is the kind of controlled press you want.

No, what a dictator does is actively suppress any free press, and replaces it with government versions of said press.

Any dictator that just mouths off about a hostile press and doesn't do anything about it is a piss poor dictator.

What we want is a press that isn't comprised of Democratic party lap dogs, apologists, and fellow travellers.

Drumph is a wannabe dictator: fortunately, so far, in America he cannot become one and suppress the press. The Democratic party has no control over the press. If you think so, you're an idiot.

Why would the democrats need to control the press, the press is complicit with the democrats.

You are believing all the crap your RW nut cases tell you. They are skewing your reality. Get help.

Seriously? There has been studies done to prove the point. You want to arbitrarily deny it, feel free, I'm not here to change your mind.
The Media Bubble Is Real — And Worse Than You Think
Conservatives Are Right. The News Media is Very Liberal
Media bias continues: 90% of Trump coverage in last three months has been negative: Study

Here’s how 20 major media outlets rank on Groseclose and Milyo’s slant scale, with 100 representing the most liberal and zero the most conservative:

ABC Good Morning America 56.1
ABC World News Tonight 61.0
CBS Early Show 66.6
CBS Evening News 73.7
CNN NewsNight with Aaron Brown 56.0
Drudge Report 60.4
Fox News Spec. Rept. w/ Brit Hume 39.7
Los Angeles Times 70.0
NBC Nightly News 61.6
NBC Today Show 64.0
New York Times 73.7
Newshour with Jim Lehrer 55.8
Newsweek 66.3
NPR Morning Edition 66.3
Time Magazine 65.4

U.S. News and World Report 65.8
USA Today 63.4
Wall Street Journal 85.1
Washington Post 66.6
Washington Times 35.4
How Biased Is Your Media? (Ep. 62) - Freakonomics

Looks more like you are the one that is blinded

Freakonomics is hardly "scientific research". It's pop nonsense.

And besides that...you're trying to claim that if the press biased in a liberal direction ( I would argue that it is biased in a CORPORATIST direction) that it is "the enemy of the people"?

That's a HUGE and dangerous and illogical leap my friend.