Who is the NFL MVP this year?

[Couchpotato]

Brett Favre Was a turnover machine and won MVP 3 times. This is a QBs league, and Josh Allen has been the best QB. There’s also a decent shot of the bills getting the second seed. So let’s see what happens

38/13, 39/13, 35/16. Those were his TD to int ratios his MVP years.

 

[Couchpotato]

Brett Favre Was a turnover machine and won MVP 3 times. This is a QBs league, and Josh Allen has been the best QB. There’s also a decent shot of the bills getting the second seed. So let’s see what happens

The Bills will be lucky to win their division. 2 seed. LOL.

 

[Darkwind]

CMC has 11 touchdowns this year. Josh Allen has 11 rushing touchdowns 27 passing touchdowns

He has 20, Allen does not.

 

[Darkwind]

Brock Purdy or Christian McCaffrey

There are one questionable pass for an INT Monday night and three tipballs for INTs. SF had a bad game, to be sure. But the still outplayed the Ravens significantly.

It's hard to overcome five ints and win.

SF is still the elite team in the NFL, and it's Purdy or McCaffrey for MVP.


Ravens Niners
241 PASS YDS 308
102 RUSH YDS 121
343 TOTAL YDS 429

 

[Couchpotato]

Brock Purdy or Christian McCaffrey

There are one questionable pass for an INT Monday night and three tipballs for INTs. SF had a bad game, to be sure. But the still outplayed the Ravens significantly.

It's hard to overcome five ints and win.

SF is still the elite team in the NFL, and it's Purdy or McCaffrey for MVP.


Ravens Niners
241 PASS YDS 308
102 RUSH YDS 121
343 TOTAL YDS 429

Purdy has no shot unless a number of other people shit the bed. His candidacy was questionable at best prior to that game. He’s not even the MVP of his own team. Hes probably not even 3rd or 4th best p,Ayer on the 9rs.

 

[Couchpotato]

Darkwind

If you had to lose one guy on the following list and replace them with NFL average player who are you picking

CMC. Best RB in the league
Williams Top 3 LT in the league
Bosa. DPOY last season
Deebo. Best rb/wr combo guy
Fred Warner Best MLB in the league.
Brock Purdy.

 

[Rocko]

He has 20, Allen does not.

He has 21 combined rushing and catching touchdowns. Josh Allen has 40 combined throwing and rushing touchdowns

 

[leftwinger]

It almost has to be Lamar Jackson or I will eat my hat.

 

[Couchpotato]

He has 21 combined rushing and catching touchdowns. Josh Allen has 40 combined throwing and rushing touchdowns

And 20 turnovers.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

If we are talking defensive player of the year I might suggest T.J. Watt.

Miles Garrett should be unanimous for DPOY

 

[Rocko]

And 20 turnovers.

Him being a pick machine is overstated. He has one more interception than Mahomes, and nobody talks about Mahomes being turnover prone. Last year he also had one more than Mahomes.

 

[dblack]

Him being a pick machine is overstated. He has one more interception than Mahomes, and nobody talks about Mahomes being turnover prone. Last year he also had one more than Mahomes.

A lot of Mahomes' miscues were ignored because he always managed to do what was necessary to get the win. Last year. This year, not so much.

 

[Couchpotato]

Him being a pick machine is overstated. He has one more interception than Mahomes, and nobody talks about Mahomes being turnover prone. Last year he also had one more than Mahomes.

They also arent talking about him as the MVP either. Joshy turns the ball over a lot and the Bills are trending in the wrong direction. Allen is good very very good but he aint the MVP.

 

[Rocko]

They also arent talking about him as the MVP either. Joshy turns the ball over a lot and the Bills are trending in the wrong direction. Allen is good very very good but he aint the MVP.

Guys like Dan Orlovsky and Richard Sherman are supporting Allen for MVP, so we’ll see what happens. If we’re playing for the division in the last game of the year and we win with Josh Allen playing great, it’ll be hard to vote for someone else.

 

[Couchpotato]

Miles Garrett should be unanimous for DPOY

You’re crazy. Watt is currently playing better. They already stole one from Watt and gave it to Darnold a few years ago. Watt might get to 20 sacks. He‘ll be only the second person to record 20 or more sacks twice in their career. If he does it both dudes will be named Watt.

Watt has
More sacks, more tackles almost twice as many, more fumble recoveries, more fumble recoveries for TD, more int, more passes defended the same forced fumbles. In what world would Garrett be the unanimous DPOY given those facts?

 

[Couchpotato]

Guys like Dan Orlovsky and Richard Sherman are supporting Allen for MVP, so we’ll see what happens. If we’re playing for the division in the last game of the year and we win with Josh Allen playing great, it’ll be hard to vote for someone else.

Harder than to vote for the guy who played great all year and wrapped up his division title in week 16?

You better hope they don’t lose to Zappe and the hapless Pats again

 

[toobfreak]

Miles Garrett should be unanimous for DPOY

He's up there too but I think Watt has the edge on him.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

You’re crazy. Watt is currently playing better. They already stole one from Watt and gave it to Darnold a few years ago. Watt might get to 20 sacks. He‘ll be only the second person to record 20 or more sacks twice in their career. If he does it both dudes will be named Watt.

Watt has
More sacks, more tackles almost twice as many, more fumble recoveries, more fumble recoveries for TD, more int, more passes defended the same forced fumbles. In what world would Garrett be the unanimous DPOY given those facts?

Pass Rush Win rate = how often a pass-rusher is able to beat his block within 2.5 seconds
Myles Garrett 30% (2nd)
TJ Watt 23% (5th)

Double Team Rate
Myles Garrett 31% (2nd)
TJ Watt 15% (15th)

Points Saved = How much a player contributes to stopping the run total via:

• # of players in "the box"
• Blown blocks forced
• Broken tackles allowed
• Forced Turnovers

Myles Garrett: 7.29 points saved (8th)
TJ Watt: 7.07 points saved (9th)

Should Myles Garrett be NFL Defensive Player of the Year? Here’s what the numbers say

Myles Garrett is gaining support in his bid to be the NFL's Defensive Player of the Year. Do the numbers back up Garrett's case?

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To Summarize, Myles Garrett has 13 sacks and 4 Forced Fumbles (Compared to Watts 16 sacks and 3 Forced Fumbles) as he is being able to beat his opponent more often while being double teamed twice as often, and being able to stop the run better and save his team more points.

In regards to Watt vs. Garrett.. it's Garrett 100%

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Josh Allen is not the MVP. His team is barely over .500 and while he’s the reason they win most of the time hes also the reason they lose every time. You can’t throw that many picks some of which are just stupid as shit, and win the MVP.


Lamar Jackson is the MVP. Tyreek if he gets 2k yds should be in the running as should CMC.

Allen has 20 turnovers. He’s not the MVP.

From NFL.com

Ravens D allowing 15.2 PPG (1st)
Bills D allowing 18.1 PPG (4th)

Ravens PPG 27.8 (4th)
Bills PPG 26.9 (6th)

Pass Yards
Allen 3778 (6th)
Jackson 3357 (15th)

TD Passes
Allen 27 (3rd)
Jackson 19 (15th)

QBR
Allen 71.6 (2nd)
Jackson 63.0 (8th)

Rushing/TD
Allen 413yds, 13 TD
Jackson 786 yds, 5 TD


It seems like Allen is better at throwing for more yards, throwing for more TD's, running for more TD's, and is a better rated QB on a team that has a worse defense than Jackson.

Allen is clearly more valuable to his team, and is a more effective QB than Jackson.

 

[leftwinger]

Mr. Friscus

From NFL.com

Ravens D allowing 15.2 PPG (1st)
Bills D allowing 18.1 PPG (4th)

Ravens PPG 27.8 (4th)
Bills PPG 26.9 (6th)

Pass Yards
Allen 3778 (6th)
Jackson 3357 (15th)

TD Passes
Allen 27 (3rd)
Jackson 19 (15th)

QBR
Allen 71.6 (2nd)
Jackson 63.0 (8th)

Rushing/TD
Allen 413yds, 13 TD
Jackson 786 yds, 5 TD


It seems like Allen is better at throwing for more yards, throwing for more TD's, running for more TD's, and is a better rated QB on a team that has a worse defense than Jackson.

Allen is clearly more valuable to his team, and is a more effective QB than Jackson.

Buffalo has bad meaningful losses. Balt has no bad losses or less bad losses and 2 big wins just recently. Buffalo has DAL at home recently only? That matters.