Who knew Jesus was really a palestinian Muslim?

[JoelT1]

You're fighting a strawman. No one is saying that.

JoelT1 claimed that Abraham was from a Hebrew tribe.

But there were no hebrews before Abraham, since he was the father of the hebrews. ....

Hebrew Bible was written 1500+ years before the Koran and Islam. The Hebrew Bible contains 15 chapters on Abraham’s life. The Hebrew Bible says Abraham was a Hebrew. Hebrews were ancestors of the Jews

Furthermore, only Jews are blood descendants of Abraham, through Jacob/Israel.

Muslims are confused and irrelevant.

 

[Sunni Man]

Muslims are confused and irrelevant.

Then why do you make 10 threads a day about them?

Do they frighten you? .....

 

[JoelT1]

You're fighting a strawman. No one is saying that.

JoelT1 claimed that Abraham was from a Hebrew tribe.

But there were no hebrews before Abraham, since he was the father of the hebrews. ....

Oh and by the way, in addition to the defective Koran confusing Abraham’s family, it also doesn’t include Abraham’s wife’s name Sarah and completely omitted Hagar!

So, confused Muslims have no idea about Abraham, Jesus, Moses or any other figures before the Arab caveman Muhammad

 

[rylah]

Furthermore, only Jews are blood descendants of Abraham, through Jacob/Israel.

Muslims are confused and irrelevant.

Not really, the descendants of Ismael are our cousins. Muslims are not "irrelevant".

 

[rylah]

Muslims are confused and irrelevant.

Then why do you make 10 threads a day about them?

Do they frighten you? .....

One who fears Allah does not have to fear men.
One who fears men, does not fear Allah.

 

[JoelT1]

Furthermore, only Jews are blood descendants of Abraham, through Jacob/Israel.

Muslims are confused and irrelevant.

Not really, the descendants of Ismael are our cousins. Muslims are not "irrelevant".

Nowhere do the Bible or even the Koran say Arabs descend from Ishmael. Fact

And about 90% of Muslims are not even Arabs. Fact

Muhammad doesn’t even know Ishmael in this Koran verse

 

[rylah]

Nowhere do the Bible say Arabs descend from Ishmael.

Hmmm...interesting.
I'll need to check that out.

 

[JoelT1]

Nowhere do the Bible say Arabs descend from Ishmael.

Hmmm...interesting.
I'll need to check that out.

Ishmael does not appear in any Arab records or literature prior to the Koran. Arabs, Muslims didn’t have the name Ishmael/Ismail until a few centuries ago.

 

[peach174]

No he is not correct.
Jesus was Jewish, he was not a Monotheisist.

You might want to look up the definition of "monotheism". ....

I know what it means.
It was what Muhammad's family was before he wrote the Qur'an.

 

[JoelT1]

No he is not correct.
Jesus was Jewish, he was not a Monotheisist.

You might want to look up the definition of "monotheism". ....

I know what it means.
It was what Muhammad's family was before he wrote the Qur'an.

Muhammad’s family were pagans. Muhammad was a pagan for most of his life until he stole monotheism from Jews. In fact, Muhammad’s name is pagan in origin. The hajj is pagan rituals Muslims worship a pagan rock

 

[Roudy]

What I want to know is how did Muhammad know he was a descendant of Abraham's forsaken son Ishmael, who came 2000 years before Muhammad...did he send his DNA to ancestry.com?

 

[westwall]

Never mind the historical fact that Jesus was a devout Jew called King of Israel and King of the Jews in the Bible, and lived 600+ years BEFORE Islam, this “scholar” claims Jesus was really a palestinian Muslim Who knew?

Pretty amazing since Jesus walked the Earth hundreds of years before Mohammed founded his religion.

 

[JoelT1]

What I want to know is how did Muhammad know he was a descendant of Abraham's forsaken son Ishmael, who came 2000 years before Muhammad...did he send his DNA to ancestry.com?

Muhammad learned about Ishmael and other biblical figures from Jews and Christians. He did not descend from Ishmael and never claimed to be. This was a Muslim invention to embellish his life

Here, Muhammad didn’t yet know about Ishmael

 

[JoelT1]

Never mind the historical fact that Jesus was a devout Jew called King of Israel and King of the Jews in the Bible, and lived 600+ years BEFORE Islam, this “scholar” claims Jesus was really a palestinian Muslim Who knew?

Pretty amazing since Jesus walked the Earth hundreds of years before Mohammed founded his religion.

Muhammad traveled back in time 600 years and converted Jesus

 

[Roudy]

Never mind the historical fact that Jesus was a devout Jew called King of Israel and King of the Jews in the Bible, and lived 600+ years BEFORE Islam, this “scholar” claims Jesus was really a palestinian Muslim Who knew?

Pretty amazing since Jesus walked the Earth hundreds of years before Mohammed founded his religion.

Muhammad traveled back in time 600 years and converted Jesus

He converted Jesus from 220 to 110 volts? Back to the Future, Saudi Arabia edition?

 

[Roudy]

What I want to know is how did Muhammad know he was a descendant of Abraham's forsaken son Ishmael, who came 2000 years before Muhammad...did he send his DNA to ancestry.com?

Muhammad learned about Ishmael and other biblical figures from Jews and Christians. He did not descend from Ishmael and never claimed to be. This was a Muslim invention to embellish his life

Here, Muhammad didn’t yet know about Ishmael

I heard he sent his DNA to a company called www.Al-Ancestry.com/Allahuakbar

 

[JoelT1]

Never mind the historical fact that Jesus was a devout Jew called King of Israel and King of the Jews in the Bible, and lived 600+ years BEFORE Islam, this “scholar” claims Jesus was really a palestinian Muslim Who knew?

Pretty amazing since Jesus walked the Earth hundreds of years before Mohammed founded his religion.

Never mind the historical fact that Jesus was a devout Jew called King of Israel and King of the Jews in the Bible, and lived 600+ years BEFORE Islam, this “scholar” claims Jesus was really a palestinian Muslim Who knew?

Pretty amazing since Jesus walked the Earth hundreds of years before Mohammed founded his religion.

Never mind the historical fact that Jesus was a devout Jew called King of Israel and King of the Jews in the Bible, and lived 600+ years BEFORE Islam, this “scholar” claims Jesus was really a palestinian Muslim Who knew?

Pretty amazing since Jesus walked the Earth hundreds of years before Mohammed founded his religion.

Muhammad traveled back in time 600 years and converted Jesus

He converted Jesus from 220 to 110 volts? Back to the Future, Saudi Arabia edition?

Jesus learned to speak Arabic from Muhammad

 

[JoelT1]

The Mufti is correct. ....

Mufti is a fking moron. Palestine was a pagan Roman name for ancient Israel. Jesus is called King of Israel in the Bible, Children of Israel appear in the Koran

 

[Roudy]

What I want to know is how did Muhammad know he was a descendant of Abraham's forsaken son Ishmael, who came 2000 years before Muhammad...did he send his DNA to ancestry.com?

Muhammad learned about Ishmael and other biblical figures from Jews and Christians. He did not descend from Ishmael and never claimed to be. This was a Muslim invention to embellish his life

Here, Muhammad didn’t yet know about Ishmael

He learned about Judaism and Ishmael from the ancient Jews of Medina and the women held captive from his invasions and destruction of Jewish cities, eventually marrying two of the Jewish women.

Rayhāna bint Zayd (Arabic: ريحانة بنت زيد‎‎) was a Jewish woman from the Banu Nadir tribe, who is revered by Muslims as one of the Ummahaatu'l-Mu'mineen, or Mothers of the Faithful - the Wives of Muhammad.

Rayhana was originally a member of the Banu Nadir tribe who married a man from the Banu Qurayza. After the Banu Qurayza were defeated by the armies of Muhammad in the Siege of the Banu Qurayza neighborhood, Rayhana was among those enslaved, while the men were executed.

Safiyyah bint Huyayy (Arabic: صفية بنت حيي‎‎, Safiyyah bint Huyayy ) (c. 610 – c. 670) was one of the wives of the Islamic Prophet Muhammad.[1] She was, along with all other wives of Muhammad, titled Umm-ul-Mu'mineen or the "Mother of Believers".[2]

After Muhammad's death, she became involved in the power politics of the early Muslim community, and acquired substantial influence by the time of her death.

 

[JoelT1]

What I want to know is how did Muhammad know he was a descendant of Abraham's forsaken son Ishmael, who came 2000 years before Muhammad...did he send his DNA to ancestry.com?

Muhammad learned about Ishmael and other biblical figures from Jews and Christians. He did not descend from Ishmael and never claimed to be. This was a Muslim invention to embellish his life

Here, Muhammad didn’t yet know about Ishmael

He learned about Judaism and Ishmael from the ancient Jews of Medina and the women held captive from his invasions and destruction of Jewish cities, eventually marrying two of the Jewish women.

Rayhāna bint Zayd (Arabic: ريحانة بنت زيد‎‎) was a Jewish woman from the Banu Nadir tribe, who is revered by Muslims as one of the Ummahaatu'l-Mu'mineen, or Mothers of the Faithful - the Wives of Muhammad.

Rayhana was originally a member of the Banu Nadir tribe who married a man from the Banu Qurayza. After the Banu Qurayza were defeated by the armies of Muhammad in the Siege of the Banu Qurayza neighborhood, Rayhana was among those enslaved, while the men were executed.

Safiyyah bint Huyayy (Arabic: صفية بنت حيي‎‎, Safiyyah bint Huyayy ) (c. 610 – c. 670) was one of the wives of the Islamic Prophet Muhammad.[1] She was, along with all other wives of Muhammad, titled Umm-ul-Mu'mineen or the "Mother of Believers".[2]

After Muhammad's death, she became involved in the power politics of the early Muslim community, and acquired substantial influence by the time of her death.

Arabs even knew Muhammad was just a Bible copying phony, which he was