Who Supports The Official 9/11 Gov’t Cover Stories

[Terral]

Hi DiveCon Man:

can you link to an official source that claims the plane vaporized? and cite the page/link/paragraph that actually says it

The Official Source is the "Brief Of Accident" Report "Adopted 03/07/2006" by the "National Transportation Safety Board" (here) saying that the "Boeing / 757-200" Aircraft was Officially "Destroyed." This bogus NTSB Accident Report coincides with the fake NTSB Flight Data Recorder evidence (here) that places their bogus AA77 'outside' Pentagon airspace at "0932" (9:32 AM) when the FAA Timeline (link) says the "aircraft crashes into west side of Pentagon."

All of the evidence indicates that Jim Ritter (NTSB official) is a LIAR, because his sworn testimony says AA77 was 'outside' Pentagon airspace when the Pentagon was struck at 9:32 AM. The entire National Transportation Safety Board staff is filled with Loyal Bushie LIARS, as if any 100-ton Jetliner can simply be 'destroyed' to excuse the fact that the Gov't is simply NOT in possession of ANY of these 9/11 Jetliners! This is the very place where we obtain expert military testimony from people like Colonel George Nelson a specialist in the military aircraft maintenance department:

Physics911, by Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven, 9/11/2001

Colonel George Nelson:

American Airlines Flight 77

This was reported to be a Boeing 757, registration number N644AA, carrying 64 people, including the flight crew and five hijackers. This aircraft, with a 125-foot wingspan, was reported to have crashed into the Pentagon, leaving an entry hole no more than 65 feet wide.

Following cool-down of the resulting fire, this crash site would have been very easy to collect enough time-change equipment within 15 minutes to positively identify the aircraft registry. There was apparently some aerospace type of equipment found at the site (pic) but no attempt was made to produce serial numbers or to identify the specific parts found. Some of the equipment removed from the building (story) was actually hidden from public view.

Conclusion

The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. The hard evidence would have included hundreds of critical time-change aircraft items, plus security videotapes that were confiscated by the FBI (story) immediately following each tragic episode.

With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 'did not' fly into the Pentagon as alleged (What Really Happened). Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site (google = my thread), it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground (pic = US Geological Survey pic taken 4/20/1994) and certainly 'not' the Boeing 757 as alleged. Regarding the planes that allegedly flew into the WTC towers, it is only just possible that heavy aircraft were involved in each incident, but 'no' evidence has been produced that would add credence to the government’s theoretical version of what actually caused the total destruction of the buildings (my WTC-7 thread), let alone proving the identity of the aircraft. That is the problem with the government’s 911 story. It is time to apply the precautionary principle.

In short: The Gov’t has been LYING from the very beginning on every level from the out-of-control FBI/CIA/NSA, the Department of Defense, the Justice Department, the wargame-playing NORAD generals, the Joint-chiefs, the out-of-control Congress, Dick Cheney, Karl (the mastermind) Rove hiding with Senor Bushie in plain sight reading pet goat stories with elementary school children here in sunny Florida.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm73wOuPL60[/ame]

All of these Gov’t Officials are LYING and they have been LYING from the very beginning ‘and’ they are going to continue LYING straight to your face to the very end. Period.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sulDYYAiCU&NR=1[/ame]

The six USMB cartoon characters agreeing to conspire together 'and' profess believing the Official Cover Stories LIES are standing with 'all liars' (Rev. 21:8) and have earned the same exact fate . . . so help me God . . .

GL,

Terral

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I am suddenly wondering ... do the conspiracy nuts expect a plan crash to look like a meteor strike?

I'm just wondering why someone who has next to no knowledge on the subject has the nerve to offer such opinions..so fluff head do you think the firemen are liars ?

since that Bush dupe is obviously in denial,I guess he does.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGI5BmNd7AE&feature=related

Dive is so much in denial he never watches this video of Minetta saying Cheney gave a stand down order not to shoot down the missile.

 

[DiveCon]

Hi DiveCon Man:

can you link to an official source that claims the plane vaporized? and cite the page/link/paragraph that actually says it

The Official Source is the "Brief Of Accident" Report "Adopted 03/07/2006" by the "National Transportation Safety Board" (here) saying that the "Boeing / 757-200" Aircraft was Officially "Destroyed." This bogus NTSB Accident Report coincides with the fake NTSB Flight Data Recorder evidence (here) that places their bogus AA77 'outside' Pentagon airspace at "0932" (9:32 AM) when the FAA Timeline (link) says the "aircraft crashes into west side of Pentagon."

All of the evidence indicates that Jim Ritter (NTSB official) is a LIAR, because his sworn testimony says AA77 was 'outside' Pentagon airspace when the Pentagon was struck at 9:32 AM. The entire National Transportation Safety Board staff is filled with Loyal Bushie LIARS, as if any 100-ton Jetliner can simply be 'destroyed' to excuse the fact that the Gov't is simply NOT in possession of ANY of these 9/11 Jetliners! This is the very place where we obtain expert military testimony from people like Colonel George Nelson a specialist in the military aircraft maintenance department:

Physics911, by Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven, 9/11/2001

Colonel George Nelson:

American Airlines Flight 77

This was reported to be a Boeing 757, registration number N644AA, carrying 64 people, including the flight crew and five hijackers. This aircraft, with a 125-foot wingspan, was reported to have crashed into the Pentagon, leaving an entry hole no more than 65 feet wide.

Following cool-down of the resulting fire, this crash site would have been very easy to collect enough time-change equipment within 15 minutes to positively identify the aircraft registry. There was apparently some aerospace type of equipment found at the site (pic) but no attempt was made to produce serial numbers or to identify the specific parts found. Some of the equipment removed from the building (story) was actually hidden from public view.

Conclusion

The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. The hard evidence would have included hundreds of critical time-change aircraft items, plus security videotapes that were confiscated by the FBI (story) immediately following each tragic episode.

With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 'did not' fly into the Pentagon as alleged (What Really Happened). Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site (google = my thread), it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground (pic = US Geological Survey pic taken 4/20/1994) and certainly 'not' the Boeing 757 as alleged. Regarding the planes that allegedly flew into the WTC towers, it is only just possible that heavy aircraft were involved in each incident, but 'no' evidence has been produced that would add credence to the government’s theoretical version of what actually caused the total destruction of the buildings (my WTC-7 thread), let alone proving the identity of the aircraft. That is the problem with the government’s 911 story. It is time to apply the precautionary principle.

In short: The Gov’t has been LYING from the very beginning on every level from the out-of-control FBI/CIA/NSA, the Department of Defense, the Justice Department, the wargame-playing NORAD generals, the Joint-chiefs, the out-of-control Congress, Dick Cheney, Karl (the mastermind) Rove hiding with Senor Bushie in plain sight reading pet goat stories with elementary school children here in sunny Florida.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm73wOuPL60[/ame]

All of these Gov’t Officials are LYING and they have been LYING from the very beginning ‘and’ they are going to continue LYING straight to your face to the very end. Period.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sulDYYAiCU&NR=1[/ame]

The six USMB cartoon characters agreeing to conspire together 'and' profess believing the Official Cover Stories LIES are standing with 'all liars' (Rev. 21:8) and have earned the same exact fate . . . so help me God . . .

GL,

Terral

hey, you fail again, not one of those said it "vaporized"

 

[DiveCon]

I am suddenly wondering ... do the conspiracy nuts expect a plan crash to look like a meteor strike?

I'm just wondering why someone who has next to no knowledge on the subject has the nerve to offer such opinions..so fluff head do you think the firemen are liars ?

since that Bush dupe is obviously in denial,I guess he does.

you are such a fucking moron
KK hated bush

 

[DiveCon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGI5BmNd7AE&feature=related

Dive is so much in denial he never watches this video of Minetta saying Cheney gave a stand down order not to shoot down the missile.

since it was proven that he was WRONG
there was NO stand down order given

 

[eots]

diveconspirasist believe these firemen at the scene are liars and morons..and working for the toofers
but NIST professional liars that where not there..USA today psyops agents are truthful...lol

 

[DiveCon]

diveconspirasist believe these firemen at the scene are liars and morons..and working for the toofers
but NIST professional liars that where not there..USA today psyops agents are truthful...lol

which is a complete LIE
i never said any such thing

the first responders hate you assholes

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Not sure what report this is.

I actually have not read much of the government reports.[/QUOTE]

you didnt have to tell me that.I already knew that.a dis in fo agent like you doesnt care about the truth as we both know,you only care about churning out the usual amount of bullshit they pay you to do.as long as they pay you your money your getting paid for,thats all you care about.

 

[eots]

diveconspirasist believe these firemen at the scene are liars and morons..and working for the toofers
but NIST professional liars that where not there..USA today psyops agents are truthful...lol

which is a complete LIE
i never said any such thing

the first responders hate you assholes

link please....[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQyi3jrz1so[/ame]

 

[LA RAM FAN]

H

The evidence indicates that the little empty hole has grass growing on all the slopes/inclines . . .

Little empty hole?
was taken on 4/20/1994. You Gov’t Cover Story Ops talk about the size of the empty ‘hole,’ because of the lack of evidence for any crashed 100-ton Jetliner.

No. The empty hole . . .
. . . is definitely cut into an empty field. I see a man wearing a dark shirt and light-colored pair of pants walking to our left about noontime, but no signs of any crashed 100-ton Jetliner. In fact, we see grass growing on all the inclines/slopes . . .

Try again.

. . . you want to skin this 9/11 cat. Do not come to one of my 9/11 threads like this using nonsense and stupidity by asking silly straw man questions. You are missing about 100 tons of Jetliner evidence, because the Gov’t has been LYING from day one.

Ooh, it appears I have touched a nerve.

Explain these eyewitness accounts.

Perhaps you should take a time out.

The fire raged for 7 hours, not three so fire proofing is not sufficient. Furthermore, diesel fuel tanks were present in all apartments with one large tank at the center, fueling the fire.

Fuel-fed fires along with as much as 25% structural damage from the collapse of WTC1 combined with the fact that WTC7 support columns were unusually stressed through poor design is plenty cause for the tower to collapse.

If even one column fails the rest of the structure will systematically crash due to the unfortunate design of the building.

Bullony! Once again this guy has no clue . . . First of all, WTC-7 was NOT struck by any Jetliner. Secondly, any diesel fuel hydrocarbon fire burns at FAR below the required temperatures . Your hydrocarbon fire ‘maximum gas temperature’ is still more than 1000 degrees too low ‘and’ the massive steel-frame network still transports any heat energy ‘away’ from the heat source to the cooler areas more quickly than any single component can be heated beyond even the ‘fire’ temperature. This guy is pretending that I can place diesel fuel inside a 47-story overbuilt skyscraper, toss in a match, and run away, for the entire structure to implode into a neat little pile.

No, instead it was struck by the collapse of a 110 story building.

Once again you are spewing that melting nonsense.

Steel does not have to melt in order for it to give away.

And if you classify the WTC7 as a "neat" collapse when it clearly took a large chunk of a nearby building, you have serious problems with facts.

Anyone with any doubt about open-air hydrocarbon fires taking down skyscrapers should watch this little short video.

Why do you ignore existing structural damage? This is not a stupid building fire. Two jet liners hit the WTC and the twin towers collapse severely damaged WTC7.

If you refuse to consider that a massive jet liner might do some harm to the structural integrity of building then you are just irrational.

Im sure terral and eots have already taken you to school on this but I got to add on agter seeing this moronic post about your planted evidence as proof at the pentagan and what a joke it is.that small piece of scrap those two men are carrying at that site which is the most famous photo of the airliner the governmet props out as proof of an airliner is not the markings of any known airliner.we know that for a fact because Russ Wittenburg an experienced airliner pilot and one of the best in the world,apparently he was able to borrow it for a while after he was suspecious about it and he made inquires of airliners and not ONE of them could identify that piece as identifying with any large known commerical airliner. that alleged engine in that blue photograph has been proven to be too small of an engine for a jet airliner.LOL.It DOES however fit the size of a small global hawk
that wheel you showed has ALSO been proven to be too small to be the wheel of an airliner. the alleged airliner according to the commission,made a 270 degree turn to slam into the pentagan which there have been videos made eots has shown before of experiences airliner pilots saying THEY could never have made.the wreakage as terral proved in his photos of what an airliner looks like when it crashes,does NOT fit a site of an airliner crash.

You have yet to show the wings,the luggage,the seats,or the bodies or ANYTHING we have asked you to post of the airliner.you have yet to show the video of the airliner coming in.you ignore that the FBI illiegally confiscated film from a gas station and hotel across the street and that there is a video out there thats been shown many times of a newscaster saying-theres NO EVIDENCE of an airliner crashing.something else your not aware of is that the dogs that were on the scene-they were sniffing for bodies and they never reacted the way dogs do when they see dead bodies. thers photos out there which shows the dogs there at the site. oh and its been proven countless times in repressed video footage and witness testimonsy that explosives brought the towers down so I wont even go there.you want to STILL continue making yourself look like an idiot defending the 9/11 COVERUP commission like that retard divecon?

 

[C-101]

planted evidence

You need to prove that this was planted evidence.

Otherwise, you are basing your argument on a false premise.

 

[Terral]

Hi C-101 and 9/11 Inside Job:

planted evidence

You need to prove that this was planted evidence.

Otherwise, you are basing your argument on a false premise.

This sounds funny coming from a guy claiming that this . . .

. . . equals a crashed 100-ton Jetliner. Talk about a false premise. :0)

BTW, there is no such thing as 'planted evidence' for this Pentagon Case, but there is an abundance of misrepresented evidence and evidence that the FBI has hidden behind closed doors to hide their own guilt. The Column Line (CL) 14 Wedge One location was attacked at 9:31:39 AM during the original Raytheon Missile Strike (What Really Happened) and the painted-up DoD flying BOMB (pic) crashed between CL 9 and CL 15 at precisely 9:36:27 AM (lower pic) some 4-minutes and 48-seconds later to scatter all of this Jet debris that you see in the photos:

The fact that we have scattered Jet debris at the Pentagon has NOTHING to do with any 100-ton Jetliner that NEVER crashed anywhere near the Pentagon on 9/11 or any other day.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm_cnFoMHjA[/ame]

GL,

Terral

 

[DiveCon]

terral, you havent debunked anything
LOL
i suppose all that evidence was never there, eh?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

planted evidence

You need to prove that this was planted evidence.

Otherwise, you are basing your argument on a false premise.

Thats the best you can do in your lame comback? You been associating with that moron divecon too much.HIM I would expect a lame comeback like that from.YOU I expected better from.you cant counter ANY of those points I made so thats your lame comeback.Like i said,I would expect that kind of a comeback from the devoted Bush dupes here like Divecon but YOU I expected something better from.Its hysterical that YOU would make this kind of a comment when thats ALL you have based all your arguments on.

Im done watching you ignore our facts that prove you wrong.no sense wasting anymore time with you.

 

[DiveCon]

planted evidence

You need to prove that this was planted evidence.

Otherwise, you are basing your argument on a false premise.

Thats the best you can do in your lame comback? You been associating with that moron divecon too much.HIM I would expect a lame comeback like that from.YOU I expected better from.you cant counter ANY of those points I made so thats your lame comeback.Like i said,I would expect that kind of a comeback from the devoted Bush dupes here like Divecon but YOU I expected something better from.Its hysterical that YOU would make this kind of a comment when thats ALL you have based all your arguments on.

Im done watching you ignore our facts that prove you wrong.no sense wasting anymore time with you.

talking about morons, you are one of the biggest

i have yet to see YOU post a single FACT
you post pics and claim the exact opposite of what the pic actually proves
terral does the same thing
and most of the time all you do is cheerlead for the rest

 

[LA RAM FAN]

since this thread has pretty much died down,I thought i would post something else that has never been posted or discussed about here to my knowledge.If it was a commercial airliner that hit,why are these curious looking people carrying away this blue tarp and hiding something from everybody? what are you Bush dupes going to come up with next for your explanation,that they have naked girls underneath? LOL. click on the sixth link to the bottom titled 911 picture to view the blue tarp I am talking about.





Pentagon 911 Blue
Tarp Photo Uncovered
By Jon Carlson
[email protected]
4-24-6

In March an Aerospace investigator with 15 years experience analyzing Shuttle accidents emailed that he wanted photos of the Pentagon HOLE and the impact engine. His plan was to determine the angle of approach of the aircraft by calculating the distance of the engine from the the engine's impact on the wall and to write an article putting to rest the controversy of the approach angle. MSM claims the aircraft impacted at a 45 degree angle and penetrated 3 rings of the Pentagon. That article NOT being written makes it evident that the MSM Pentagon Hoax is full of holes. Here is a sneak preview on the HOLE investigation:

Press Release 12

Using the dimensions of the typical Pentagon wall limestone block (circled in blue in the first photo), 5 feet long and 2 feet high,

PROSOCO, Inc.

the engine impact gouge (circled in orange) can be calculated at 52 inches wide. Pratt & Whitney lists the Fan tip diameter at 39.9 - 49.2 in. When the engine case thickness is added the 52 inch gouge matches a JT8D engine.

http://www.pratt-whitney.com/prod_comm_jt8d.asp

The JT8D engine is circled in yellow. There are now over 15 photos of the two ton engine in front of the engine impact gouge for corroboration. The NYC street engine from the South Tower crash, a Boeing 737 CFM56 engine NOT from the Flight 175 Boeing 767, which we also were the first to identify had 'only' 10 photos:

High-Ranking Military, Airline Pilots - Flt 175 Did Not Hit WTC





The Pentagon has formulated a new Rule of Evidence for the 9/11 Hoax: If an object is missing or covered over in latter photos, it is CONTRARY EVIDENCE. This later photo shows an attempt to hide the engine impact gouge with a phony brace and a ladder. ALSO the J8TD engine is MISSING:





This photo shows the Sugano Experiment where an aircraft was crashed into a block of concrete:





This photo shows what happened to the wings (highlighted in yellow):





Apparently at the Pentagon the wing outer portions had a similar experience. In this photo notice the part of a white car circled in yellow at the left margin:





Same car after it was burnt. Notice the gash across the hood where the left wing end hit after it bounced off the Pentagon wall:




This photo shows the wing end adjacent to the white car:





Are these Pentagon workers bunching up to hide the wing end from on-lookers?





Compare the people in this photo, especially the guy in suspenders, and the carriers of the tarp covered aircraft part in the next photo:







(Note - Can this small group of men, some middle-aged and paunchy, carry the entire wing end of an A-3 over their shoulders like this? Or, could they be carrying something else entirely...perhaps some debris with human remains or blood all over it? Or some piece of classified material? We may never know the truth. -ed)


The Blue tarp photo was first posted on a military server but NOW even it is gone as the link to it is dead. The Power Hour first brought this photo to light, one of many of their 9/11 Firsts:

911 Picture

We contributed to their superb In Plane Site videos:

Police State 21

After a scarcity of photographic evidence supporting the A3 Skywarrior as the Pentagon aircraft hypothesis, substantial photographic evidence has now tipped the scales in that direction from the Boeing 737 hypothesis. AS THERE IS NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER FOR THE FLIGHT 77 BOEING 757 HYPOTHESIS, the Flight 77 hypothesis is JUST A HOAX. Even the FBI has confirmed that 85 Pentagon videos show no Flight 77 impacting into the Pentagon.

This photo shows the upfolded wings of a A3 Skywarrior, one of which is believed to be under that blue tarp:





We were the first to identify the JT8D fan hub assembly found at the Pentagon. We teamed up with the Karl Schwarz group and they confirmed the identification from their sources. Karl Schwarz pioneered the A3 Skywarrior hypothesis and struck with it through thick and thin. Kudos to Karl. Jack White has more photos and analysis:

911 Studies - Research into 9-11 Photos

As the A3 Skywarrior is a carrier-based bomber resembling a 737 or 757 in flight




It could have taken off from aircraft carrier George Washington anchored off Long Island on 9/11 that is believed to be the base of operations for the South Tower military helicopter and the white jet seen in all 9/11 locations.

USATODAY.com - Navy dispatches ships to New York, Washington

A telemetry expert and a Avionics expert emailed that the South Tower military helicopter and airliner had special remote control antennas attached so that operation involved a substitute aircraft controlled by a military helicopter hoving over the South Tower.

Finally, this photo shows a similar wing end on the right side of the Pentagon crash area:





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[LA RAM FAN]

All these Loyal Bushie Liars/DUPES have is one pathetic answer after another and the sad story remains the same. Here is a picture of the North Tower . . .

. . . where you can see a big fat impact hole with wingtips spanning end to end and the whole 9 yards.

This is a picture of the Pentagon where these cartoon characters want to say a real 100-ton Jetliner crashed going 530 miles per hour. :0)

Then the Loyal Bushie LIARS whine and cry about posting the same pictures over and over again, that prove beyond all doubt that THEY ARE LYING. This is not rocket science 'and' the evidence simply does NOT even begin to match the Official 'Cover Story.' Period.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKhBzAh_eeA"]These Experts All Agree![/ame]

If the Bush/Obama Administrations are going to lie directly into my face, at least have the wherewithal to come up with something that begins to match THE EVIDENCE. This is also not a case of the Gov’t telling little white lies about one aspect of these 9/11 Inside-Job Attacks, because NONE of the evidence matches the Official Cover Stories!
These people run like Forrest Gump to this USMB Conspiracies Forum every day to convince everyone that ‘no conspiracy exists,’ because these United States Of America are being primed for utter destruction ‘and’ that is exactly what We The People deserve. That is the reason that so few of these registered members are willing to stand with 9/11 inside job, eots, Peejay, sylverfoxx and Terral to simply tell ‘the’ 911Truth told by all the ‘evidence.

Terral[/QUOTE]

I know its funny how these devoted Bush dupes whine and cry over and over again about you posting those same pics since they know it proves their government they worship is lying.the truth hurts them.your right,they run to the conspiracy section everyday of their lives to convince us this 9/11 government conspiracy doesnt exist or martial law or ANY government conspiracy.how pathetic.Yeah I wish that those other posters would come back and fight for the truth.I miss the likes of Peejay, sylverfoxx,Lookout,Sealybobo,and Mr Jones.I wish they wouldnt have let the Bush dupes run them off like they did.

 

[C-101]

Thats the best you can do in your lame comback? You been associating with that moron divecon too much.HIM I would expect a lame comeback like that from.YOU I expected better from.you cant counter ANY of those points I made so thats your lame comeback.Like i said,I would expect that kind of a comeback from the devoted Bush dupes here like Divecon but YOU I expected something better from.Its hysterical that YOU would make this kind of a comment when thats ALL you have based all your arguments on.

Im done watching you ignore our facts that prove you wrong.no sense wasting anymore time with you.

In other words you have no proof.

Thanks for the confirmation.

carrying away this blue tarp

That "tarp" is actually a tent, genius.

Look carefully and you will notice that it has supports underneath it.

Also, look at this amazing blue and white "tarp".

 

[eots]

Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former Political-Military Affairs Officer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Also served on the staff of the Director of the National Security Agency. 20-year Air Force career. Member adjunct faculty, Political Science Department, James Madison University. Instructor, University of Maryland University College and American Public University System. Author of African Crisis Response Initiative: Past Present and Future (2000) and Expeditionary Air Operations in Africa: Challenges and Solutions (2001).
Contributor to 9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out 8/23/06: Account of Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, Pentagon employee and eyewitness to the events at the Pentagon on 9/11. "I believe the Commission failed to deeply examine the topic at hand, failed to apply scientific rigor to its assessment of events leading up to and including 9/11, failed to produce a believable and unbiased summary of what happened, failed to fully examine why it happened, and even failed to include a set of unanswered questions for future research. ...

It is as a scientist that I have the most trouble with the official government conspiracy theory, mainly because it does not satisfy the rules of probability or physics. The collapses of the World Trade Center buildings clearly violate the laws of probability and physics. ...

There was a dearth of visible debris on the relatively unmarked [Pentagon] lawn, where I stood only minutes after the impact. Beyond this strange absence of airliner debris, there was no sign of the kind of damage to the Pentagon structure one would expect from the impact of a large airliner. This visible evidence or lack thereof may also have been apparent to the secretary of defense [Donald Rumsfeld], who in an unfortunate slip of the tongue referred to the aircraft that slammed into the Pentagon as a "missile". ...

I saw nothing of significance at the point of impact - no airplane metal or cargo debris was blowing on the lawn in front of the damaged building as smoke billowed from within the Pentagon. ... all of us staring at the Pentagon that morning were indeed looking for such debris, but what we expected to see was not evident.

The same is true with regard to the kind of damage we expected. ... But I did not see this kind of damage. Rather, the facade had a rather small hole, no larger than 20 feet in diameter. Although this facade later collapsed, it remained standing for 30 or 40 minutes, with the roof line remaining relatively straight.

The scene, in short, was not what I would have expected from a strike by a large jetliner. It was, however, exactly what one would expect if a missile had struck the Pentagon. ...

More information is certainly needed regarding the events of 9/11 and the events leading up to that terrible day."


Editor's note: For more information on the impact at the Pentagon, see General Stubblebine, Colonel Nelson, Commander Muga, Lt. Col. Latas, Major Rokke, Capt. Wittenberg, Capt. Davis, Barbara Honegger, April Gallop, Colonel Bunel, and Steve DeChiaro.


Member: Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven Association Statement: "We have found solid scientific grounds on which to question the interpretation put upon the events of September 11, 2001 by the Office of the President of the United States of America and subsequently propagated by the major media of western nations."


Bio: http://militaryweek.com/
Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report