Who would you rather as president managing the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?" (poll)

[Redfish]

Neither.

then who?

Don’t care. It doesn’t matter. It will be one of the two assholes.

I asked who you would prefer if you could choose. Who would you like to see in the whitehouse next year? Give me a name or STFU

Me. Now you STFU.

LOL, when pigs fly, so you have no one you would want as president? typical, bitch about everything but offer no alternatives.

I’d like to see what Ron Paul would have done. He would have kept everything open and let the free market decide.

works for me. or Rand

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

Biden would offer comic relief calling it:
the contravirus
corona19
and forgetting what he was talking about

saying he wants every american to have a respirator

 

[SmokeALib]

WHO ARE THE TDS MENTAL CASES WHO VOTED FOR SLEEPY JOE?

Who are the ignorant, uninformed cases who voted for the feckless grifter, Trump?

You hillary panty-sniffers crack me up!

You uninformed, ignorant, conned people crack me up.

Don't be so hard on yourself leftist.

 

[Bobob]

biden wouldn't blow off warnings from the pentagon briefing regarding the US was ripe for a pandemic, when the transition was in action between the outgoing & incoming administration were taking place.

biden wouldn't allow his NSA to dismantle the pandemic response team, that the obama administration put in place.

biden wouldn't blow off the warning from the intel community that something was brewing like a possible uncontrollable virus outbreak (via cables from china that they were monitoring).

biden wouldn't fire the science expert overlooking labs that was embedded within china to warn that it was happening.

biden wouldn't 'prefer ' that american citizens stay on a floating petri dish because he 'liked the numbers [of infected] where they were '

when the virus broke out of china - biden would have accepted the gene sequence & resulting WHO recommended test kits to start testing right away instead of insisting the CDC kits be used instead which ended up defective & put us weeks behind from where we could have been.

& biden wouldn't ship an overwhelming amount of our tax payer stockpiled PPE to them, resulting in a severe shortage, taking months to sign & enact the DPA, when it was too late; whining & outright lying that ' the obama administration left the cub boards bare '.

....no one dismantled the pandemic team--we stopped WASTING $$$ on it to other countries..get your facts straight

Trump dismantled the pandemic team, saying that he was a businessman and didn't like people standing around.
Of course, he denied it and said that he knew nothing about it and then blamed someone in his administration. How gullible his minions are, yes?

He also called the virus a "hoax" and said we'd have "zero cases" very shortly.

He said that the virus is democrat's "new hoax", get your facts straight.
His "happy talk" was just to stay calm and avoid a panic, like for paper products and disinfectants, while the government focused it's response to the virus.

In the former, he was lying. Clearly after 14,000 people have died, it's not a hoax as he made it out to be.

In the latter, he failed miserably. The shortages are a result of his trade war policies and the supply chain replenishment has a lot to do with his roll out of testing kits.... its happening very slowly.

You use words with no proof.
1. Trump's response to COVID beat the "doomsday projections" every time. Initially there would be 2.2m dead Americans, then 100,000 to 200,000 and now its down to about 60,000 by August. So the democrats' criticisms of Trump are in-fact a "hoax". Biden said that Trump's travel ban was "xenophobic" and he would not have place it (leading to thousands more dead Americans) and now he supports it. That is incompetence from "always wrong" Joe.

2. WTF are you talking about?? There are no shortages due to trade war policies. If there were any shortages it was due to the globalists moving so many US factories to China and India.

U.S. Job Loss to China Swells to 3.7 Million - Alliance for American Manufacturing

First two years of Trump presidency saw 700,000 jobs lost.

www.americanmanufacturing.org

3. The US testing "LAW" requires tests by the CDC or as approved by the FDA. The US is leapfrogging the world in rapid test development, currently doing 160,000 tests per day, soon to be in the millions of tests per day.

Totals for the US

Daily totals for all metrics collected from January 2020 to the present.

covidtracking.com

4. See how I use credible links to dispel your bullshit?

Early predictions are usually off. I recall on 9/11 predictions of 25,000 dead were floated around.
He said the cases would be close to zero. Currently we have 400,000+ cases.
Here is the quote:
"And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done,"
He missed by 400,000....at least 400,000.

The trade war did cause the shortages. Manufacturers of paper goods import the raw materials to make them here. When the prices went up due to the taxes your blob imposed, they made less. The finished goods from China and other places also saw taxes imposed. When the prices went up due to your blob's taxes, they imported less.

1. The 2.2m US dead wasn't an early "prediction", it was based on the global average of 4.4% as U2Edge keeps posting as fact. Trump's early "happy talk" was just trying to avert a "panic", which never happened, thankfully.
2. There is no tariff on paper raw materials. Got any more bullshit?

Tariffs on Canadian Paper Products Dumped

In a dramatic turnaround, the U.S. International Trade Commission has reversed a Trump administration decision to impose heavy tariffs on paper products imported into the U.S from Canada.

www.publishersweekly.com

You should read your source...retard

Here is what you wrote, falsely blaming Trump tariffs on raw paper materials for "shortages" and increased prices.
"The trade war did cause the shortages. Manufacturers of paper goods import the raw materials to make them here. When the prices went up due to the taxes your blob imposed, they made less. The finished goods from China and other places also saw taxes imposed. When the prices went up due to your blob's taxes, they imported less."

Here is copy from my link proving that there are no tariffs on raw materials, and that there are no "shortages", of raw paper materials, the market for printed material is just slowing. Probably due to folks reading more online, duh.
"Baehr and others had told Congress that the overall decline in groundwood paper sales is the result of other market forces, such as the decline in the newspaper business and slowing-to-flat sales of print books, and not due to paper imported from Canada. "

So stop your whining and bullshitting about Trump.

From your source:
“The administration first levied the tariffs in January...”

wow--great idea--let China fk us over--you're a genius

These particular tariffs were on imports from Canada. Not being able to find toilet paper is not fun. You...being full of shit...probably knows better than anyone

China fks us over with their cheap labor/etc--and send people here for work--you MUST be a dumbass

You are the dumbass by not recognizing that China is a player in world economics. Trump didn't help matters with his
buffoonery and insulting behavior with regard to our trading partners and they have migrated into China's lap.
A famous American once said---"Let China rest, for when she awakens, the whole world will tremble". 5th grade
history.

 

[sealybobo]

Neither.

then who?

Don’t care. It doesn’t matter. It will be one of the two assholes.

I asked who you would prefer if you could choose. Who would you like to see in the whitehouse next year? Give me a name or STFU

Me. Now you STFU.

LOL, when pigs fly, so you have no one you would want as president? typical, bitch about everything but offer no alternatives.

I’d like to see what Ron Paul would have done. He would have kept everything open and let the free market decide.

works for me. or Rand

I think we are overpopulated and this is mother nature’s way of thinning the herd. If you are worried wear a mask and practice social distancing but when you got to go to the market or mall you should be able to. Enter at your own risk.

on may 1 shit needs to be back up and running. Damn the deaths.

 

[j-mac]

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

I always knew this site had more cons than libs. That's all this poll is showing us. Just confirming what I already knew. And it's ridiculous to say Trump has handled this well. Clearly by the discussions we've all been having these past months, he is showing his lack of leadership.

At the start of this those on the left, along with the NT crowd, all mocked him for closing travel from China's infected areas, even trying to label him racist for doing so...That experts agree, was probably the single best thing he could have done....

And even after such, Trump has been managing this better than many I can think of....Just remember the past administration waiting a full 8 months to declare in a similar circumstance, allowing a thousand people to die, including children.....

 

[gipper]

Neither.

then who?

Don’t care. It doesn’t matter. It will be one of the two assholes.

I asked who you would prefer if you could choose. Who would you like to see in the whitehouse next year? Give me a name or STFU

Me. Now you STFU.

LOL, when pigs fly, so you have no one you would want as president? typical, bitch about everything but offer no alternatives.

You asked I answered. I can’t help it if you’re dumb.

 

[Bobob]

biden wouldn't blow off warnings from the pentagon briefing regarding the US was ripe for a pandemic, when the transition was in action between the outgoing & incoming administration were taking place.

biden wouldn't allow his NSA to dismantle the pandemic response team, that the obama administration put in place.

biden wouldn't blow off the warning from the intel community that something was brewing like a possible uncontrollable virus outbreak (via cables from china that they were monitoring).

biden wouldn't fire the science expert overlooking labs that was embedded within china to warn that it was happening.

biden wouldn't 'prefer ' that american citizens stay on a floating petri dish because he 'liked the numbers [of infected] where they were '

when the virus broke out of china - biden would have accepted the gene sequence & resulting WHO recommended test kits to start testing right away instead of insisting the CDC kits be used instead which ended up defective & put us weeks behind from where we could have been.

& biden wouldn't ship an overwhelming amount of our tax payer stockpiled PPE to them, resulting in a severe shortage, taking months to sign & enact the DPA, when it was too late; whining & outright lying that ' the obama administration left the cub boards bare '.

....no one dismantled the pandemic team--we stopped WASTING $$$ on it to other countries..get your facts straight

Trump dismantled the pandemic team, saying that he was a businessman and didn't like people standing around.
Of course, he denied it and said that he knew nothing about it and then blamed someone in his administration. How gullible his minions are, yes?

He also called the virus a "hoax" and said we'd have "zero cases" very shortly.

He said that the virus is democrat's "new hoax", get your facts straight.
His "happy talk" was just to stay calm and avoid a panic, like for paper products and disinfectants, while the government focused it's response to the virus.

In the former, he was lying. Clearly after 14,000 people have died, it's not a hoax as he made it out to be.

In the latter, he failed miserably. The shortages are a result of his trade war policies and the supply chain replenishment has a lot to do with his roll out of testing kits.... its happening very slowly.

You use words with no proof.
1. Trump's response to COVID beat the "doomsday projections" every time. Initially there would be 2.2m dead Americans, then 100,000 to 200,000 and now its down to about 60,000 by August. So the democrats' criticisms of Trump are in-fact a "hoax". Biden said that Trump's travel ban was "xenophobic" and he would not have place it (leading to thousands more dead Americans) and now he supports it. That is incompetence from "always wrong" Joe.

2. WTF are you talking about?? There are no shortages due to trade war policies. If there were any shortages it was due to the globalists moving so many US factories to China and India.

U.S. Job Loss to China Swells to 3.7 Million - Alliance for American Manufacturing

First two years of Trump presidency saw 700,000 jobs lost.

www.americanmanufacturing.org

3. The US testing "LAW" requires tests by the CDC or as approved by the FDA. The US is leapfrogging the world in rapid test development, currently doing 160,000 tests per day, soon to be in the millions of tests per day.

Totals for the US

Daily totals for all metrics collected from January 2020 to the present.

covidtracking.com

4. See how I use credible links to dispel your bullshit?

Early predictions are usually off. I recall on 9/11 predictions of 25,000 dead were floated around.
He said the cases would be close to zero. Currently we have 400,000+ cases.
Here is the quote:
"And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done,"
He missed by 400,000....at least 400,000.

The trade war did cause the shortages. Manufacturers of paper goods import the raw materials to make them here. When the prices went up due to the taxes your blob imposed, they made less. The finished goods from China and other places also saw taxes imposed. When the prices went up due to your blob's taxes, they imported less.

1. The 2.2m US dead wasn't an early "prediction", it was based on the global average of 4.4% as U2Edge keeps posting as fact. Trump's early "happy talk" was just trying to avert a "panic", which never happened, thankfully.
2. There is no tariff on paper raw materials. Got any more bullshit?

Tariffs on Canadian Paper Products Dumped

In a dramatic turnaround, the U.S. International Trade Commission has reversed a Trump administration decision to impose heavy tariffs on paper products imported into the U.S from Canada.

www.publishersweekly.com

You should read your source...retard

Here is what you wrote, falsely blaming Trump tariffs on raw paper materials for "shortages" and increased prices.
"The trade war did cause the shortages. Manufacturers of paper goods import the raw materials to make them here. When the prices went up due to the taxes your blob imposed, they made less. The finished goods from China and other places also saw taxes imposed. When the prices went up due to your blob's taxes, they imported less."

Here is copy from my link proving that there are no tariffs on raw materials, and that there are no "shortages", of raw paper materials, the market for printed material is just slowing. Probably due to folks reading more online, duh.
"Baehr and others had told Congress that the overall decline in groundwood paper sales is the result of other market forces, such as the decline in the newspaper business and slowing-to-flat sales of print books, and not due to paper imported from Canada. "

So stop your whining and bullshitting about Trump.

From your source:
“The administration first levied the tariffs in January...”

wow--great idea--let China fk us over--you're a genius

Tell you what, genius. Why don't you buy everything that is American made to solve your problem? That way, China won't fuck us over. American unions will do that like in the 1970s with a strike every year, forcing American manufacturing to leave our country in droves due to high costs.

 

[Bobob]

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

The poll is all wrong. Bidens job would only to sit in the chair while and eat ice cream while other people fucked everything up.

Exactly what Trump does every day when he isn't fucking everything up.

 

[Bobob]

WHO ARE THE TDS MENTAL CASES WHO VOTED FOR SLEEPY JOE?

Who are the ignorant, uninformed cases who voted for the feckless grifter, Trump?

You hillary panty-sniffers crack me up!

You uninformed, ignorant, conned people crack me up.

Don't be so hard on yourself leftist.

You too.

 

[sealybobo]

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

I always knew this site had more cons than libs. That's all this poll is showing us. Just confirming what I already knew. And it's ridiculous to say Trump has handled this well. Clearly by the discussions we've all been having these past months, he is showing his lack of leadership.

At the start of this those on the left, along with the NT crowd, all mocked him for closing travel from China's infected areas, even trying to label him racist for doing so...That experts agree, was probably the single best thing he could have done....

And even after such, Trump has been managing this better than many I can think of....Just remember the past administration waiting a full 8 months to declare in a similar circumstance, allowing a thousand people to die, including children.....

Say it like trump would. You think he has handled it perfectly. Better than anyone else believe me.

 

[Bobob]

1. Tell me you wan

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

Trump did nothing for 2 months since he knew about the virus in January. He spent those 2 months in denial and accusing the Dems of a "hoax". He appointed 2 inexperienced hacks to head his response to the virus, instead of medical and science professionals. So let's look at it differently, yes? Hint: Obama care was very successful and Trump, jealous of all things Obama,
tried to kill the program rather than fix it. Oh, he promised better, cheaper healthcare to replace it. A feckless grifter.

1. Trump got the CDC and FDA and Task Force up and running in the 1st two months. The CDC was woefully inadequate for the testing capacity needed. So Trump got commercial labs involved.
2. The democrat "hoax" is alive and well, accusing Trump of mismanagement, when Biden wouldn't have implemented the travel ban, which now he approves?! Totally inept Biden, still always wrong.
3. What two "hacks" are you referring to? Pence was a governor used to managing responses to emergencies. His appointment gives the medical team the time to work on the disease, instead of trying to figure how the government works.
4. Obamacare rollout was not successful, it was a disaster, so says CNN.

Rough Obamacare rollout: 4 reasons why

It seems like a long time since Vice President Joe Biden whispered a bit too loudly to President Barack Obama that his imminent signing of the 2010 Affordable Care Act was "a big f---ing deal."

www.cnn.com

1) commercial labs were deliberately shut out of testing for COVID - & exclusively given to the CDC - which ended up giving faulty tests & their lab ended up being CONtaminated - losing us precious time to get ahead of this virus.
How the government delayed coronavirus testing
2) to donny, the (D) 'hoax' was that (D)s were saying this virus was going to explode & yes - closing the border to china was a good idea in hindsight - howeverrrrrrrrrrrrrrr - the chances are very high that the virus
A) was already here,
B) amricans scrambling to get back b4 we closed up shop, & them believing they would not be able to come home - some ended up bringing the virus back with them
C) it has been determined that the first hotspots in the US that broke out in NY - the majority of the victims were from europe - countries that donny didn't shut out until later on
3) pence was governor of indiana when HIV was rampant & his first course of action, was to close down the only planned parenthood in the state - the only facility that tested for HIV - then when his advisors were telling him to set up a needle exchange program - he decided to 'pray' instead - allowing even more people to die b4 he finally relented & the needle exchange program immediately showed results that lowered the infection rate & death toll.
4) obamacare has many faults - but overall people are happy with it - so much so, that scaring people into realizing it can be taken away (it's in the courts right now to dismantle the WHOLE thing) that townhalls were filled with people fighting to keep it & the 2018 election turnout, that flipped the house showed just how much people want to keep it.

1. Wrong. Read the fucking LAW before you post nonsense.
The CDC does all testing unless the FDA approves the outside lab test.

CLIA Law & Regulation

CDC - OPHSS - CSELS - Division of Laboratory Systems (DLS)

www.cdc.gov

https://www.cdc.gov/phlp/docs/APHL_Conference_LEI_Report_508.pdf

2. OK, the China travel ban was a good idea, also agreed that banning travel from the EU sooner would have been better.
3. OK, maybe one "hack" not two, huh? Pence is doing a great job managing the Feds response to COVID.
Trump's war on opioids is saving lives, look at the death rate for the Obama years, 2019 & 2020 should be lower yet. Overdose Death Rates
View attachment 322035
4. Agreed that 2018 was mostly about Obamacare. IMHO healthcare was better before Obamacare. We paid premiums and got good healthcare. Now we pay premiums, AND pay $10,000 deductibles and don't get "healthcare", just what we pay for. That's extortion.

#4 is bullshit. And therefore, the GOP which had both houses of Congress and the WH could not fucking repeal it. The American people did not buy into that bullshit.

But you still do.

Time for some self reflection.

What is bullshit about #4? Calling it bullshit doesn't prove anything. The high deductibles are extortion.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

www.bloomberg.com

The American people still want something better than Obamacare.

Yes. We do. But we don’t want what we had before Obamacare. That is obvious to anyone with a brain.

Trump promised us something much better. But for some reason, he isn’t going to tell us what that is unless we re-elect him in November.

And you believe him. How fucking stupid is that?

1. Tell me you want single-payer "Medicare for All" like Biden is now supporting.
2. Trump can't write a new healthcare law, he needs the House and Senate to do that, I'm not optimistic. I'm hoping the USSC throws Obamacare out and we start over.

Yes. I am in favor of a M4A type system. It’s cost effective and leads to the best health outcomes.

Why is it that you will not demand that Trump reveal the great health care plan that he has promised us?

Why don’t you know that a president can absolutely provide guidance and details to MOC, who then draft bills for introduction and debate?

The man promised us a great health care plan. Where the fuck is it?

1. I do not want "Lois Lerner" in-charge of my access to "government" healthcare.
2. The EU's COVID death totals say that the US healthcare has way better outcomes.
3. Trump doesn't have to reveal anything until Obamacare is repealed, possibly by the USSC shortly

Just confirming. You don’t expect the president to tell you anything about his awesome health care plan until Obamacare is repealed? Is that correct?

No, I don't expect Trump to put up anything while Obamacare is still in-place.
He would have to get the GOP House & Senate in-line and draft it before its rolled-out.

Of course, he could fix Obama Care since it is already in place rather than spend our money in a nasty fight in Congress.
But Trump is hell-bent on destroying all things Obama due to his childish jealousy.

Which doesn’t make sense because trump has just as loyal supporters as Obama had. Obama had the admiration of lefties and moderates and trump is a god to the rwnjs

Trump is a god to the uneducated and uninformed.

 

[eagle1462010]

I just caught up reading the posts I missed.......

and I think this

 

[harmonica]

biden wouldn't blow off warnings from the pentagon briefing regarding the US was ripe for a pandemic, when the transition was in action between the outgoing & incoming administration were taking place.

biden wouldn't allow his NSA to dismantle the pandemic response team, that the obama administration put in place.

biden wouldn't blow off the warning from the intel community that something was brewing like a possible uncontrollable virus outbreak (via cables from china that they were monitoring).

biden wouldn't fire the science expert overlooking labs that was embedded within china to warn that it was happening.

biden wouldn't 'prefer ' that american citizens stay on a floating petri dish because he 'liked the numbers [of infected] where they were '

when the virus broke out of china - biden would have accepted the gene sequence & resulting WHO recommended test kits to start testing right away instead of insisting the CDC kits be used instead which ended up defective & put us weeks behind from where we could have been.

& biden wouldn't ship an overwhelming amount of our tax payer stockpiled PPE to them, resulting in a severe shortage, taking months to sign & enact the DPA, when it was too late; whining & outright lying that ' the obama administration left the cub boards bare '.

....no one dismantled the pandemic team--we stopped WASTING $$$ on it to other countries..get your facts straight

Trump dismantled the pandemic team, saying that he was a businessman and didn't like people standing around.
Of course, he denied it and said that he knew nothing about it and then blamed someone in his administration. How gullible his minions are, yes?

He also called the virus a "hoax" and said we'd have "zero cases" very shortly.

He said that the virus is democrat's "new hoax", get your facts straight.
His "happy talk" was just to stay calm and avoid a panic, like for paper products and disinfectants, while the government focused it's response to the virus.

In the former, he was lying. Clearly after 14,000 people have died, it's not a hoax as he made it out to be.

In the latter, he failed miserably. The shortages are a result of his trade war policies and the supply chain replenishment has a lot to do with his roll out of testing kits.... its happening very slowly.

You use words with no proof.
1. Trump's response to COVID beat the "doomsday projections" every time. Initially there would be 2.2m dead Americans, then 100,000 to 200,000 and now its down to about 60,000 by August. So the democrats' criticisms of Trump are in-fact a "hoax". Biden said that Trump's travel ban was "xenophobic" and he would not have place it (leading to thousands more dead Americans) and now he supports it. That is incompetence from "always wrong" Joe.

2. WTF are you talking about?? There are no shortages due to trade war policies. If there were any shortages it was due to the globalists moving so many US factories to China and India.

U.S. Job Loss to China Swells to 3.7 Million - Alliance for American Manufacturing

First two years of Trump presidency saw 700,000 jobs lost.

www.americanmanufacturing.org

3. The US testing "LAW" requires tests by the CDC or as approved by the FDA. The US is leapfrogging the world in rapid test development, currently doing 160,000 tests per day, soon to be in the millions of tests per day.

Totals for the US

Daily totals for all metrics collected from January 2020 to the present.

covidtracking.com

4. See how I use credible links to dispel your bullshit?

Early predictions are usually off. I recall on 9/11 predictions of 25,000 dead were floated around.
He said the cases would be close to zero. Currently we have 400,000+ cases.
Here is the quote:
"And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done,"
He missed by 400,000....at least 400,000.

The trade war did cause the shortages. Manufacturers of paper goods import the raw materials to make them here. When the prices went up due to the taxes your blob imposed, they made less. The finished goods from China and other places also saw taxes imposed. When the prices went up due to your blob's taxes, they imported less.

1. The 2.2m US dead wasn't an early "prediction", it was based on the global average of 4.4% as U2Edge keeps posting as fact. Trump's early "happy talk" was just trying to avert a "panic", which never happened, thankfully.
2. There is no tariff on paper raw materials. Got any more bullshit?

Tariffs on Canadian Paper Products Dumped

In a dramatic turnaround, the U.S. International Trade Commission has reversed a Trump administration decision to impose heavy tariffs on paper products imported into the U.S from Canada.

www.publishersweekly.com

You should read your source...retard

Here is what you wrote, falsely blaming Trump tariffs on raw paper materials for "shortages" and increased prices.
"The trade war did cause the shortages. Manufacturers of paper goods import the raw materials to make them here. When the prices went up due to the taxes your blob imposed, they made less. The finished goods from China and other places also saw taxes imposed. When the prices went up due to your blob's taxes, they imported less."

Here is copy from my link proving that there are no tariffs on raw materials, and that there are no "shortages", of raw paper materials, the market for printed material is just slowing. Probably due to folks reading more online, duh.
"Baehr and others had told Congress that the overall decline in groundwood paper sales is the result of other market forces, such as the decline in the newspaper business and slowing-to-flat sales of print books, and not due to paper imported from Canada. "

So stop your whining and bullshitting about Trump.

From your source:
“The administration first levied the tariffs in January...”

wow--great idea--let China fk us over--you're a genius

Tell you what, genius. Why don't you buy everything that is American made to solve your problem? That way, China won't fuck us over. American unions will do that like in the 1970s with a strike every year, forcing American manufacturing to leave our country in droves due to high costs.

sure--no matter if the Unions work or not, China is still going to use cheap labor--GENIUS---

 

[sealybobo]

1. Tell me you wan

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

Trump did nothing for 2 months since he knew about the virus in January. He spent those 2 months in denial and accusing the Dems of a "hoax". He appointed 2 inexperienced hacks to head his response to the virus, instead of medical and science professionals. So let's look at it differently, yes? Hint: Obama care was very successful and Trump, jealous of all things Obama,
tried to kill the program rather than fix it. Oh, he promised better, cheaper healthcare to replace it. A feckless grifter.

1. Trump got the CDC and FDA and Task Force up and running in the 1st two months. The CDC was woefully inadequate for the testing capacity needed. So Trump got commercial labs involved.
2. The democrat "hoax" is alive and well, accusing Trump of mismanagement, when Biden wouldn't have implemented the travel ban, which now he approves?! Totally inept Biden, still always wrong.
3. What two "hacks" are you referring to? Pence was a governor used to managing responses to emergencies. His appointment gives the medical team the time to work on the disease, instead of trying to figure how the government works.
4. Obamacare rollout was not successful, it was a disaster, so says CNN.

Rough Obamacare rollout: 4 reasons why

It seems like a long time since Vice President Joe Biden whispered a bit too loudly to President Barack Obama that his imminent signing of the 2010 Affordable Care Act was "a big f---ing deal."

www.cnn.com

1) commercial labs were deliberately shut out of testing for COVID - & exclusively given to the CDC - which ended up giving faulty tests & their lab ended up being CONtaminated - losing us precious time to get ahead of this virus.
How the government delayed coronavirus testing
2) to donny, the (D) 'hoax' was that (D)s were saying this virus was going to explode & yes - closing the border to china was a good idea in hindsight - howeverrrrrrrrrrrrrrr - the chances are very high that the virus
A) was already here,
B) amricans scrambling to get back b4 we closed up shop, & them believing they would not be able to come home - some ended up bringing the virus back with them
C) it has been determined that the first hotspots in the US that broke out in NY - the majority of the victims were from europe - countries that donny didn't shut out until later on
3) pence was governor of indiana when HIV was rampant & his first course of action, was to close down the only planned parenthood in the state - the only facility that tested for HIV - then when his advisors were telling him to set up a needle exchange program - he decided to 'pray' instead - allowing even more people to die b4 he finally relented & the needle exchange program immediately showed results that lowered the infection rate & death toll.
4) obamacare has many faults - but overall people are happy with it - so much so, that scaring people into realizing it can be taken away (it's in the courts right now to dismantle the WHOLE thing) that townhalls were filled with people fighting to keep it & the 2018 election turnout, that flipped the house showed just how much people want to keep it.

1. Wrong. Read the fucking LAW before you post nonsense.
The CDC does all testing unless the FDA approves the outside lab test.

CLIA Law & Regulation

CDC - OPHSS - CSELS - Division of Laboratory Systems (DLS)

www.cdc.gov

https://www.cdc.gov/phlp/docs/APHL_Conference_LEI_Report_508.pdf

2. OK, the China travel ban was a good idea, also agreed that banning travel from the EU sooner would have been better.
3. OK, maybe one "hack" not two, huh? Pence is doing a great job managing the Feds response to COVID.
Trump's war on opioids is saving lives, look at the death rate for the Obama years, 2019 & 2020 should be lower yet. Overdose Death Rates
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4. Agreed that 2018 was mostly about Obamacare. IMHO healthcare was better before Obamacare. We paid premiums and got good healthcare. Now we pay premiums, AND pay $10,000 deductibles and don't get "healthcare", just what we pay for. That's extortion.

#4 is bullshit. And therefore, the GOP which had both houses of Congress and the WH could not fucking repeal it. The American people did not buy into that bullshit.

But you still do.

Time for some self reflection.

What is bullshit about #4? Calling it bullshit doesn't prove anything. The high deductibles are extortion.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

www.bloomberg.com

The American people still want something better than Obamacare.

Yes. We do. But we don’t want what we had before Obamacare. That is obvious to anyone with a brain.

Trump promised us something much better. But for some reason, he isn’t going to tell us what that is unless we re-elect him in November.

And you believe him. How fucking stupid is that?

1. Tell me you want single-payer "Medicare for All" like Biden is now supporting.
2. Trump can't write a new healthcare law, he needs the House and Senate to do that, I'm not optimistic. I'm hoping the USSC throws Obamacare out and we start over.

Yes. I am in favor of a M4A type system. It’s cost effective and leads to the best health outcomes.

Why is it that you will not demand that Trump reveal the great health care plan that he has promised us?

Why don’t you know that a president can absolutely provide guidance and details to MOC, who then draft bills for introduction and debate?

The man promised us a great health care plan. Where the fuck is it?

1. I do not want "Lois Lerner" in-charge of my access to "government" healthcare.
2. The EU's COVID death totals say that the US healthcare has way better outcomes.
3. Trump doesn't have to reveal anything until Obamacare is repealed, possibly by the USSC shortly

Just confirming. You don’t expect the president to tell you anything about his awesome health care plan until Obamacare is repealed? Is that correct?

No, I don't expect Trump to put up anything while Obamacare is still in-place.
He would have to get the GOP House & Senate in-line and draft it before its rolled-out.

Of course, he could fix Obama Care since it is already in place rather than spend our money in a nasty fight in Congress.
But Trump is hell-bent on destroying all things Obama due to his childish jealousy.

Which doesn’t make sense because trump has just as loyal supporters as Obama had. Obama had the admiration of lefties and moderates and trump is a god to the rwnjs

Trump is a god to the uneducated and uninformed.

I know two people on full disability who voted for trump. He has cut those programs. My broke ass drunk neighbor crazy renee was a trumpster. And, the guy across the hall was a huge trump supporter. Weird he blew his brains out on inauguration night. True story. He was a catholic struggling with his homosexuality.

Not that trump hasn’t conned a lot of smart people too but those people voted for bush so you know. Theyd vote for lex luthor if the gop nominated him.

 

[Billy_Bob]

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

Trump did nothing for 2 months since he knew about the virus in January. He spent those 2 months in denial and accusing the Dems of a "hoax". He appointed 2 inexperienced hacks to head his response to the virus, instead of medical and science professionals. So let's look at it differently, yes? Hint: Obama care was very successful and Trump, jealous of all things Obama,
tried to kill the program rather than fix it. Oh, he promised better, cheaper healthcare to replace it. A feckless grifter.

Trump was told by WHO that there was no human to human transmission. By mid January we observed this to be a lie and he acted within ten days. That was with democrats yelling all is well and trying to impeach him.

 

[sealybobo]

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

Trump did nothing for 2 months since he knew about the virus in January. He spent those 2 months in denial and accusing the Dems of a "hoax". He appointed 2 inexperienced hacks to head his response to the virus, instead of medical and science professionals. So let's look at it differently, yes? Hint: Obama care was very successful and Trump, jealous of all things Obama,
tried to kill the program rather than fix it. Oh, he promised better, cheaper healthcare to replace it. A feckless grifter.

Trump was told by WHO that there was no human to human transmission. By mid January we observed this to be a lie and he acted within ten days. That was with democrats yelling all is well and trying to impeach him.

Bad shit happened to the USA because republicans were distracting Bill with monicagate

 

[sealybobo]

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

Here’s another great question. Who would you rather see control the senate Mitch McConnell or anyone else.

 

[Bobob]

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

I always knew this site had more cons than libs. That's all this poll is showing us. Just confirming what I already knew. And it's ridiculous to say Trump has handled this well. Clearly by the discussions we've all been having these past months, he is showing his lack of leadership.

At the start of this those on the left, along with the NT crowd, all mocked him for closing travel from China's infected areas, even trying to label him racist for doing so...That experts agree, was probably the single best thing he could have done....

And even after such, Trump has been managing this better than many I can think of....Just remember the past administration waiting a full 8 months to declare in a similar circumstance, allowing a thousand people to die, including children.....

The circumstances were hardly similar. Trump waited 2 months while Korea et, al began the process. He spent that time accusing the Democrats of a "hoax" and announced that he had the situation under control. The damage was done when Trump did his China thing and he was not mocked by most. He is indeed a racist, and not for that move.
Trump is doing a poor job of managing the crisis. He put 2 inexperienced hacks in charge rather than the medical and scientific community. He erased the pandemic regulations that were in place before he took office. He is a feckless grifter and you have been grifted.

 

[Bobob]

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

Trump did nothing for 2 months since he knew about the virus in January. He spent those 2 months in denial and accusing the Dems of a "hoax". He appointed 2 inexperienced hacks to head his response to the virus, instead of medical and science professionals. So let's look at it differently, yes? Hint: Obama care was very successful and Trump, jealous of all things Obama,
tried to kill the program rather than fix it. Oh, he promised better, cheaper healthcare to replace it. A feckless grifter.

Trump was told by WHO that there was no human to human transmission. By mid January we observed this to be a lie and he acted within ten days. That was with democrats yelling all is well and trying to impeach him.

Bad shit happened to the USA because republicans were distracting Bill with monicagate

Bill should have kept his gun in its holster or found a better place. Kennedy boinked 'em all over the place.