Who would you rather as president managing the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?" (poll)

[kyzr]

We went from 2 million projected deaths to 60,000.

Trump is doing fine. Pelosi is the dumb whore who went to Chinatown and told everybody to visit in a really stupid political stunt.

unfuckingbelievable; only a deplorable would think that 60K dead is a win for donny.

60k dead is a win for Donny, look at the EU for comparison, the EU has 3x the US deaths

The "experts" predicted 2,200,000 US deaths at the start of the pandemic based on global rates:

'Terrifying' New Research Warns 2.2 Million Could Die From Coronavirus in US Without Drastic Action

"Only now is the White House coming out of denial and heading straight into saying it could not have been foreseen."

www.commondreams.org

Then the US did so well that the "experts" revised their predictions downward to between 100,00 and 200,000 US deaths

100,000–200,000 COVID-19 Deaths. Where Does That Estimate Come From?

Infectious disease modelers are projecting COVID-19 death toll.

www.managedhealthcareexecutive.com

The "experts" latest predictions are for about 60,000 US deaths, so I'd say that the Trump/Pence team is doing just fine, that's a win.

Fauci Says U.S. Coronavirus Deaths May Be 'More Like 60,000'; Antibody Tests On Way

The predicted death toll has fallen, Dr. Anthony Fauci says, because of Americans' embrace of physical separation and other restrictions.

www.npr.org

ummmm.... no. most were unnecessary deaths. the vast majority could have been prevented if donny didn't ignore the warnings, waived the regs early on, signed & enforced the DPA early on, AND signed off on a NATION WIDE shelter in place directive. if he didn't finally do what was needed, the numbers would be as high as the SCIENTISTS modeled. they are still gonna rise due to the selfish dumbfuck hayseed states that refused to be inconvenienced for a few weeks & stay the fuck home.

1. Unnecessary deaths? Got a link proving that? Even the crazy "hoax" democrats aren't claiming that?!
2. Donny can waive regs, but NOT LAWS. Read the fucking LAW. I gave you the link

simply not having the PPE or ventilators or even fucking SWABS for the tests is a fail on donny's part. bigley. that's the first thing in line to saving lives. they knew this was coming & shut the experts out of meetings specifically held regarding COVID 19 held in a SCIF at the HHS.

that's another thing di-rectly attributed to deaths occurring needlessly.

I see words but no link or proof.
Words are meaningless without proof.
They're doing 150,000 tests a day. The CDC started out doing 300. That's a win. The capacity is increasing in leaps and bounds, so democrats have no room to talk after the disaster, train-wreck, embarrassment, known as the Obamacare rollout happened, when the web site didn't work. His crowning achievement?!. You can try to pick nits against Trump, but everyone sees how a government is supposed to function, especially after 8-years of BO & Biden.

whatever happened to:
"Over a million tests have been distributed," Pence said, and "before the end of this week, another 4 million tests will be distributed." ?

or donny saying “Anybody that wants a test [for the coronavirus] can get a test.”

NONE of that has even been close to happening; guess they fucking lied.

that is a FAIL on donny's part. a bigley FAIL.

anyhoo, about them thar links? i never claim a thing without credible links to back it up:

Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot
By Melissa HealyStaff Writer
April 7, 2020
12:39 PM
The United States has roughly 173,000 ventilators scattered across the country, according to the Center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins University. It may sound like a lot, but there could be 31 times as many patients who need one, experts from Harvard Medical School predict.
Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot


Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Audrey Conklin
Fox BusinessApril 7, 2020
The United States' shortage of novel coronavirus test kits is the result of rapidly increasing demand met with a weak national supply chain and disruptive federal regulations.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of the Inspector General interviewed 323 hospitals across 46 States in March and issued a report Monday that found most U.S. hospitals are experiencing testing shortages and extended wait times for test results.

A shortage of COVID-19 test kits is similarly a direct result of rapidly growing demand for COVID-19 kits and a "shortage of physical components" needed to make the tests, The New Yorker reported on March 24.

The physical components in question include virtual transport media, which are used to safely transport a specimen taken from a patient to a lab; extraction kits, which isolate viral RNA from biological samples; reagents, which are substances or compounds added to a sample to determine whether it contains COVID-19; and test swabs, according to The New Yorker.
Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources
Politics
March 11, 2020 / 4:29 PM / a month ago

Aram Roston, Marisa Taylor
7 Min Read


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion, according to four Trump administration officials.

The officials said that dozens of classified discussions about such topics as the scope of infections, quarantines and travel restrictions have been held since mid-January in a high-security meeting room at the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), a key player in the fight against the coronavirus.
Staffers without security clearances, including government experts, were excluded from the interagency meetings, which included video conference calls, the sources said.

“We had some very critical people who did not have security clearances who could not go,” one official said. “These should not be classified meetings. It was unnecessary.”
Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources

you're welcome.

1. They are doing 100,000 to 150,000 tests per day, that adds up to over 1m in a few days. Additional capacity is being added as it becomes available, such as the 15-minute test and the 5-minute test. Anyone can get a test as long as they have a doctor's order. US Historical Data

2. Ventilators are adequate. They are being moved from cool spots to hot spots, they are also being mass produced by GM & Tesla & Ford.
"The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) estimates that the concurrent need for ventilators in the United States will peak at about 17,000 on April 14, though the actual number could fall anywhere within a range of about 8,000 to 35,500. It’s estimated that we have about 170,000 ventilators in the country..."

3. Test kit shortage? Not true, its not March 4th???. Try to stay current. They are doing about 150,000 tests per day, and that will be ramping up as more equipment comes online. The new 15-minute and 5-minute tests will be game-changers when widely available, as well as the new "anti-body" tests. US Historical Data

4. Trump is having daily pressers with any questions the MSM wants to ask. If the WH has classified meetings, that is their prerogative.

5. You're welcome again, see how well the Federal Government can be run with competent managers.

Trump is reactive we needed proactive.

WTF are you smokin? We need Trump, period. Your democrap talking points aren't working. Maybe you need to focus more on Joe Biden than Trump? No one is going to vote for Sleazy Breezy Joe.

You sure? Because in 2016 more people voted for Hillary than Trump. And that was before Trump proved to be incompetent.

Trump cut funding to the departments that deal with infectious diseases. That alone exposes him and all Republicans for not understanding the importance of government. Now we see what happens when Republicans cut important government positions.

No, those positions weren't important, until a virus came. So Trump gambled and lost. He's FIRED.

1. Yes I'm sure, I'm voting for Trump over Biden. I'm also sure that Trump hasn't lost any voters from 2016. You haven't been bragging on old Joe? How come??
2. "Incompetent" was rolling out Obamacare and have the web site not work. "Incompetent" was giving Iran $1.7b in cash via plane and another $150b in sanctions relief to develop their nuke and ICBM programs as well aas fund their terror networks.
3. Trump did not cut funding or dissolve its pandemic response team. Stop lying, but then again, that's all the democrats have, lies. Lies about the Mueller INvestigation, lies about Russian Collusion, lies about Ukraine and the sham impeachment.

No, the White House Didn’t ‘Dissolve’ Its Pandemic Response Office | RealClearPolitics

President Trump gets his share of criticism some warranted, much not. But recently the presidents critics have chosen curious ground to question his...

www.realclearpolitics.com

Yes he did cut funding and cut out positions that were specifically created to deal with pandemics. Why are you denying? And you can't even provide a link explaining that Trump did not cut funding? Simply you Trump supporters just say it's not true and that's that? Fucking brainwashed liars. But at least you admit nothing even common sense and facts won't change your small brain.

• The Trump administration has also spent the past several years dismantling the very government programs responsible for combatting a global health crisis.

Trump spent the past 2 years slashing the government agencies responsible for handling the coronavirus outbreak

The Trump administration has spent the past several years gutting the government programs responsible for combatting a global health crisis.

www.businessinsider.com

In 2018, for instance, the CDC cut 80% of its efforts to prevent global disease outbreaks because it was running out of money. Ultimately, the department went from working in 49 countries to just 10.

Here are some other actions the Trump administration undertook to dismantle government-spending programs related to fighting the spread of global diseases, according to Foreign Policy:

• Shutting down the entire global-health-security unit of the National Security Council.
• Eliminating the US government's $30 million Complex Crises Fund.
• Reducing national health spending by $15 billion.
• Consistently attacking Mark Green, the director of the US Agency for International Development.

Trump did NOT cut funding. Congress fully funded those agencies. So says politifact:

Did Donald Trump fire pandemic officials, defund CDC?

During a CNN town hall before the South Carolina primary, Mike Bloomberg — a former New York City mayor and Democratic p

www.politifact.com

Half true!!! LOL. Did you read the thing?

Half true because two guys left and weren't replaced, they weren't fired, period.

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

You are wasting everyone's time....biden will not be the nominee

Ok, tell us how it plays out. Biden has or will have more than the 1,991 votes needed to win on the 1st ballot.
So Biden would either need to die or quit the race not to be the nominee.

 

[ColonelAngus]

We went from 2 million projected deaths to 60,000.

Trump is doing fine. Pelosi is the dumb whore who went to Chinatown and told everybody to visit in a really stupid political stunt.

unfuckingbelievable; only a deplorable would think that 60K dead is a win for donny.

60k dead is a win for Donny, look at the EU for comparison, the EU has 3x the US deaths

The "experts" predicted 2,200,000 US deaths at the start of the pandemic based on global rates:

'Terrifying' New Research Warns 2.2 Million Could Die From Coronavirus in US Without Drastic Action

"Only now is the White House coming out of denial and heading straight into saying it could not have been foreseen."

www.commondreams.org

Then the US did so well that the "experts" revised their predictions downward to between 100,00 and 200,000 US deaths

100,000–200,000 COVID-19 Deaths. Where Does That Estimate Come From?

Infectious disease modelers are projecting COVID-19 death toll.

www.managedhealthcareexecutive.com

The "experts" latest predictions are for about 60,000 US deaths, so I'd say that the Trump/Pence team is doing just fine, that's a win.

Fauci Says U.S. Coronavirus Deaths May Be 'More Like 60,000'; Antibody Tests On Way

The predicted death toll has fallen, Dr. Anthony Fauci says, because of Americans' embrace of physical separation and other restrictions.

www.npr.org

ummmm.... no. most were unnecessary deaths. the vast majority could have been prevented if donny didn't ignore the warnings, waived the regs early on, signed & enforced the DPA early on, AND signed off on a NATION WIDE shelter in place directive. if he didn't finally do what was needed, the numbers would be as high as the SCIENTISTS modeled. they are still gonna rise due to the selfish dumbfuck hayseed states that refused to be inconvenienced for a few weeks & stay the fuck home.

1. Unnecessary deaths? Got a link proving that? Even the crazy "hoax" democrats aren't claiming that?!
2. Donny can waive regs, but NOT LAWS. Read the fucking LAW. I gave you the link

simply not having the PPE or ventilators or even fucking SWABS for the tests is a fail on donny's part. bigley. that's the first thing in line to saving lives. they knew this was coming & shut the experts out of meetings specifically held regarding COVID 19 held in a SCIF at the HHS.

that's another thing di-rectly attributed to deaths occurring needlessly.

I see words but no link or proof.
Words are meaningless without proof.
They're doing 150,000 tests a day. The CDC started out doing 300. That's a win. The capacity is increasing in leaps and bounds, so democrats have no room to talk after the disaster, train-wreck, embarrassment, known as the Obamacare rollout happened, when the web site didn't work. His crowning achievement?!. You can try to pick nits against Trump, but everyone sees how a government is supposed to function, especially after 8-years of BO & Biden.

whatever happened to:
"Over a million tests have been distributed," Pence said, and "before the end of this week, another 4 million tests will be distributed." ?

or donny saying “Anybody that wants a test [for the coronavirus] can get a test.”

NONE of that has even been close to happening; guess they fucking lied.

that is a FAIL on donny's part. a bigley FAIL.

anyhoo, about them thar links? i never claim a thing without credible links to back it up:

Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot
By Melissa HealyStaff Writer
April 7, 2020
12:39 PM
The United States has roughly 173,000 ventilators scattered across the country, according to the Center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins University. It may sound like a lot, but there could be 31 times as many patients who need one, experts from Harvard Medical School predict.
Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot


Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Audrey Conklin
Fox BusinessApril 7, 2020
The United States' shortage of novel coronavirus test kits is the result of rapidly increasing demand met with a weak national supply chain and disruptive federal regulations.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of the Inspector General interviewed 323 hospitals across 46 States in March and issued a report Monday that found most U.S. hospitals are experiencing testing shortages and extended wait times for test results.

A shortage of COVID-19 test kits is similarly a direct result of rapidly growing demand for COVID-19 kits and a "shortage of physical components" needed to make the tests, The New Yorker reported on March 24.

The physical components in question include virtual transport media, which are used to safely transport a specimen taken from a patient to a lab; extraction kits, which isolate viral RNA from biological samples; reagents, which are substances or compounds added to a sample to determine whether it contains COVID-19; and test swabs, according to The New Yorker.
Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources
Politics
March 11, 2020 / 4:29 PM / a month ago

Aram Roston, Marisa Taylor
7 Min Read


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion, according to four Trump administration officials.

The officials said that dozens of classified discussions about such topics as the scope of infections, quarantines and travel restrictions have been held since mid-January in a high-security meeting room at the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), a key player in the fight against the coronavirus.
Staffers without security clearances, including government experts, were excluded from the interagency meetings, which included video conference calls, the sources said.

“We had some very critical people who did not have security clearances who could not go,” one official said. “These should not be classified meetings. It was unnecessary.”
Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources

you're welcome.

1. They are doing 100,000 to 150,000 tests per day, that adds up to over 1m in a few days. Additional capacity is being added as it becomes available, such as the 15-minute test and the 5-minute test. Anyone can get a test as long as they have a doctor's order. US Historical Data

2. Ventilators are adequate. They are being moved from cool spots to hot spots, they are also being mass produced by GM & Tesla & Ford.
"The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) estimates that the concurrent need for ventilators in the United States will peak at about 17,000 on April 14, though the actual number could fall anywhere within a range of about 8,000 to 35,500. It’s estimated that we have about 170,000 ventilators in the country..."

3. Test kit shortage? Not true, its not March 4th???. Try to stay current. They are doing about 150,000 tests per day, and that will be ramping up as more equipment comes online. The new 15-minute and 5-minute tests will be game-changers when widely available, as well as the new "anti-body" tests. US Historical Data

4. Trump is having daily pressers with any questions the MSM wants to ask. If the WH has classified meetings, that is their prerogative.

5. You're welcome again, see how well the Federal Government can be run with competent managers.

Trump is reactive we needed proactive.

WTF are you smokin? We need Trump, period. Your democrap talking points aren't working. Maybe you need to focus more on Joe Biden than Trump? No one is going to vote for Sleazy Breezy Joe.

You sure? Because in 2016 more people voted for Hillary than Trump. And that was before Trump proved to be incompetent.

Trump cut funding to the departments that deal with infectious diseases. That alone exposes him and all Republicans for not understanding the importance of government. Now we see what happens when Republicans cut important government positions.

No, those positions weren't important, until a virus came. So Trump gambled and lost. He's FIRED.

1. Yes I'm sure, I'm voting for Trump over Biden. I'm also sure that Trump hasn't lost any voters from 2016. You haven't been bragging on old Joe? How come??
2. "Incompetent" was rolling out Obamacare and have the web site not work. "Incompetent" was giving Iran $1.7b in cash via plane and another $150b in sanctions relief to develop their nuke and ICBM programs as well aas fund their terror networks.
3. Trump did not cut funding or dissolve its pandemic response team. Stop lying, but then again, that's all the democrats have, lies. Lies about the Mueller INvestigation, lies about Russian Collusion, lies about Ukraine and the sham impeachment.

No, the White House Didn’t ‘Dissolve’ Its Pandemic Response Office | RealClearPolitics

President Trump gets his share of criticism some warranted, much not. But recently the presidents critics have chosen curious ground to question his...

www.realclearpolitics.com

Yes he did cut funding and cut out positions that were specifically created to deal with pandemics. Why are you denying? And you can't even provide a link explaining that Trump did not cut funding? Simply you Trump supporters just say it's not true and that's that? Fucking brainwashed liars. But at least you admit nothing even common sense and facts won't change your small brain.

• The Trump administration has also spent the past several years dismantling the very government programs responsible for combatting a global health crisis.

Trump spent the past 2 years slashing the government agencies responsible for handling the coronavirus outbreak

The Trump administration has spent the past several years gutting the government programs responsible for combatting a global health crisis.

www.businessinsider.com

In 2018, for instance, the CDC cut 80% of its efforts to prevent global disease outbreaks because it was running out of money. Ultimately, the department went from working in 49 countries to just 10.

Here are some other actions the Trump administration undertook to dismantle government-spending programs related to fighting the spread of global diseases, according to Foreign Policy:

• Shutting down the entire global-health-security unit of the National Security Council.
• Eliminating the US government's $30 million Complex Crises Fund.
• Reducing national health spending by $15 billion.
• Consistently attacking Mark Green, the director of the US Agency for International Development.

Trump did NOT cut funding. Congress fully funded those agencies. So says politifact:

Did Donald Trump fire pandemic officials, defund CDC?

During a CNN town hall before the South Carolina primary, Mike Bloomberg — a former New York City mayor and Democratic p

www.politifact.com

Seriously, new poll to you Republicans. Who would you vote for? Lex Luthor or Hillary Clinton? Biden or Lex? Lex or Obama?

Lex is a fictional character, the Dimms you listed are all war criminals.

 

[mudwhistle]

Neither.

Yeah....let's have Tom Hanks handle it.

 

[gipper]

Neither.

then who?

Don’t care. It doesn’t matter. It will be one of the two assholes.

I asked who you would prefer if you could choose. Who would you like to see in the whitehouse next year? Give me a name or STFU

Me. Now you STFU.

LOL, when pigs fly, so you have no one you would want as president? typical, bitch about everything but offer no alternatives.

You asked I answered. I can’t help it if you’re dumb.

so you think you should be president? exactly how do you plan to make the happen?

your posts are so ridiculous that they don't really merit a response, I won;t waste any more time with your idiocy.

Thank you, dupe.

 

[sealybobo]

We went from 2 million projected deaths to 60,000.

Trump is doing fine. Pelosi is the dumb whore who went to Chinatown and told everybody to visit in a really stupid political stunt.

unfuckingbelievable; only a deplorable would think that 60K dead is a win for donny.

60k dead is a win for Donny, look at the EU for comparison, the EU has 3x the US deaths

The "experts" predicted 2,200,000 US deaths at the start of the pandemic based on global rates:

'Terrifying' New Research Warns 2.2 Million Could Die From Coronavirus in US Without Drastic Action

"Only now is the White House coming out of denial and heading straight into saying it could not have been foreseen."

www.commondreams.org

Then the US did so well that the "experts" revised their predictions downward to between 100,00 and 200,000 US deaths

100,000–200,000 COVID-19 Deaths. Where Does That Estimate Come From?

Infectious disease modelers are projecting COVID-19 death toll.

www.managedhealthcareexecutive.com

The "experts" latest predictions are for about 60,000 US deaths, so I'd say that the Trump/Pence team is doing just fine, that's a win.

Fauci Says U.S. Coronavirus Deaths May Be 'More Like 60,000'; Antibody Tests On Way

The predicted death toll has fallen, Dr. Anthony Fauci says, because of Americans' embrace of physical separation and other restrictions.

www.npr.org

ummmm.... no. most were unnecessary deaths. the vast majority could have been prevented if donny didn't ignore the warnings, waived the regs early on, signed & enforced the DPA early on, AND signed off on a NATION WIDE shelter in place directive. if he didn't finally do what was needed, the numbers would be as high as the SCIENTISTS modeled. they are still gonna rise due to the selfish dumbfuck hayseed states that refused to be inconvenienced for a few weeks & stay the fuck home.

1. Unnecessary deaths? Got a link proving that? Even the crazy "hoax" democrats aren't claiming that?!
2. Donny can waive regs, but NOT LAWS. Read the fucking LAW. I gave you the link

simply not having the PPE or ventilators or even fucking SWABS for the tests is a fail on donny's part. bigley. that's the first thing in line to saving lives. they knew this was coming & shut the experts out of meetings specifically held regarding COVID 19 held in a SCIF at the HHS.

that's another thing di-rectly attributed to deaths occurring needlessly.

I see words but no link or proof.
Words are meaningless without proof.
They're doing 150,000 tests a day. The CDC started out doing 300. That's a win. The capacity is increasing in leaps and bounds, so democrats have no room to talk after the disaster, train-wreck, embarrassment, known as the Obamacare rollout happened, when the web site didn't work. His crowning achievement?!. You can try to pick nits against Trump, but everyone sees how a government is supposed to function, especially after 8-years of BO & Biden.

whatever happened to:
"Over a million tests have been distributed," Pence said, and "before the end of this week, another 4 million tests will be distributed." ?

or donny saying “Anybody that wants a test [for the coronavirus] can get a test.”

NONE of that has even been close to happening; guess they fucking lied.

that is a FAIL on donny's part. a bigley FAIL.

anyhoo, about them thar links? i never claim a thing without credible links to back it up:

Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot
By Melissa HealyStaff Writer
April 7, 2020
12:39 PM
The United States has roughly 173,000 ventilators scattered across the country, according to the Center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins University. It may sound like a lot, but there could be 31 times as many patients who need one, experts from Harvard Medical School predict.
Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot


Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Audrey Conklin
Fox BusinessApril 7, 2020
The United States' shortage of novel coronavirus test kits is the result of rapidly increasing demand met with a weak national supply chain and disruptive federal regulations.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of the Inspector General interviewed 323 hospitals across 46 States in March and issued a report Monday that found most U.S. hospitals are experiencing testing shortages and extended wait times for test results.

A shortage of COVID-19 test kits is similarly a direct result of rapidly growing demand for COVID-19 kits and a "shortage of physical components" needed to make the tests, The New Yorker reported on March 24.

The physical components in question include virtual transport media, which are used to safely transport a specimen taken from a patient to a lab; extraction kits, which isolate viral RNA from biological samples; reagents, which are substances or compounds added to a sample to determine whether it contains COVID-19; and test swabs, according to The New Yorker.
Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources
Politics
March 11, 2020 / 4:29 PM / a month ago

Aram Roston, Marisa Taylor
7 Min Read


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion, according to four Trump administration officials.

The officials said that dozens of classified discussions about such topics as the scope of infections, quarantines and travel restrictions have been held since mid-January in a high-security meeting room at the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), a key player in the fight against the coronavirus.
Staffers without security clearances, including government experts, were excluded from the interagency meetings, which included video conference calls, the sources said.

“We had some very critical people who did not have security clearances who could not go,” one official said. “These should not be classified meetings. It was unnecessary.”
Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources

you're welcome.

1. They are doing 100,000 to 150,000 tests per day, that adds up to over 1m in a few days. Additional capacity is being added as it becomes available, such as the 15-minute test and the 5-minute test. Anyone can get a test as long as they have a doctor's order. US Historical Data

2. Ventilators are adequate. They are being moved from cool spots to hot spots, they are also being mass produced by GM & Tesla & Ford.
"The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) estimates that the concurrent need for ventilators in the United States will peak at about 17,000 on April 14, though the actual number could fall anywhere within a range of about 8,000 to 35,500. It’s estimated that we have about 170,000 ventilators in the country..."

3. Test kit shortage? Not true, its not March 4th???. Try to stay current. They are doing about 150,000 tests per day, and that will be ramping up as more equipment comes online. The new 15-minute and 5-minute tests will be game-changers when widely available, as well as the new "anti-body" tests. US Historical Data

4. Trump is having daily pressers with any questions the MSM wants to ask. If the WH has classified meetings, that is their prerogative.

5. You're welcome again, see how well the Federal Government can be run with competent managers.

Trump is reactive we needed proactive.

WTF are you smokin? We need Trump, period. Your democrap talking points aren't working. Maybe you need to focus more on Joe Biden than Trump? No one is going to vote for Sleazy Breezy Joe.

You sure? Because in 2016 more people voted for Hillary than Trump. And that was before Trump proved to be incompetent.

Trump cut funding to the departments that deal with infectious diseases. That alone exposes him and all Republicans for not understanding the importance of government. Now we see what happens when Republicans cut important government positions.

No, those positions weren't important, until a virus came. So Trump gambled and lost. He's FIRED.

1. Yes I'm sure, I'm voting for Trump over Biden. I'm also sure that Trump hasn't lost any voters from 2016. You haven't been bragging on old Joe? How come??
2. "Incompetent" was rolling out Obamacare and have the web site not work. "Incompetent" was giving Iran $1.7b in cash via plane and another $150b in sanctions relief to develop their nuke and ICBM programs as well aas fund their terror networks.
3. Trump did not cut funding or dissolve its pandemic response team. Stop lying, but then again, that's all the democrats have, lies. Lies about the Mueller INvestigation, lies about Russian Collusion, lies about Ukraine and the sham impeachment.

No, the White House Didn’t ‘Dissolve’ Its Pandemic Response Office | RealClearPolitics

President Trump gets his share of criticism some warranted, much not. But recently the presidents critics have chosen curious ground to question his...

www.realclearpolitics.com

Yes he did cut funding and cut out positions that were specifically created to deal with pandemics. Why are you denying? And you can't even provide a link explaining that Trump did not cut funding? Simply you Trump supporters just say it's not true and that's that? Fucking brainwashed liars. But at least you admit nothing even common sense and facts won't change your small brain.

• The Trump administration has also spent the past several years dismantling the very government programs responsible for combatting a global health crisis.

Trump spent the past 2 years slashing the government agencies responsible for handling the coronavirus outbreak

The Trump administration has spent the past several years gutting the government programs responsible for combatting a global health crisis.

www.businessinsider.com

In 2018, for instance, the CDC cut 80% of its efforts to prevent global disease outbreaks because it was running out of money. Ultimately, the department went from working in 49 countries to just 10.

Here are some other actions the Trump administration undertook to dismantle government-spending programs related to fighting the spread of global diseases, according to Foreign Policy:

• Shutting down the entire global-health-security unit of the National Security Council.
• Eliminating the US government's $30 million Complex Crises Fund.
• Reducing national health spending by $15 billion.
• Consistently attacking Mark Green, the director of the US Agency for International Development.

Trump did NOT cut funding. Congress fully funded those agencies. So says politifact:

Did Donald Trump fire pandemic officials, defund CDC?

During a CNN town hall before the South Carolina primary, Mike Bloomberg — a former New York City mayor and Democratic p

www.politifact.com

Seriously, new poll to you Republicans. Who would you vote for? Lex Luthor or Hillary Clinton? Biden or Lex? Lex or Obama?

Lex is a fictional character, the Dimms you listed are all war criminals.

That's fiction. What you just said. Bush is actually a war criminal though.

 

[ColonelAngus]

We went from 2 million projected deaths to 60,000.

Trump is doing fine. Pelosi is the dumb whore who went to Chinatown and told everybody to visit in a really stupid political stunt.

unfuckingbelievable; only a deplorable would think that 60K dead is a win for donny.

60k dead is a win for Donny, look at the EU for comparison, the EU has 3x the US deaths

The "experts" predicted 2,200,000 US deaths at the start of the pandemic based on global rates:

'Terrifying' New Research Warns 2.2 Million Could Die From Coronavirus in US Without Drastic Action

"Only now is the White House coming out of denial and heading straight into saying it could not have been foreseen."

www.commondreams.org

Then the US did so well that the "experts" revised their predictions downward to between 100,00 and 200,000 US deaths

100,000–200,000 COVID-19 Deaths. Where Does That Estimate Come From?

Infectious disease modelers are projecting COVID-19 death toll.

www.managedhealthcareexecutive.com

The "experts" latest predictions are for about 60,000 US deaths, so I'd say that the Trump/Pence team is doing just fine, that's a win.

Fauci Says U.S. Coronavirus Deaths May Be 'More Like 60,000'; Antibody Tests On Way

The predicted death toll has fallen, Dr. Anthony Fauci says, because of Americans' embrace of physical separation and other restrictions.

www.npr.org

ummmm.... no. most were unnecessary deaths. the vast majority could have been prevented if donny didn't ignore the warnings, waived the regs early on, signed & enforced the DPA early on, AND signed off on a NATION WIDE shelter in place directive. if he didn't finally do what was needed, the numbers would be as high as the SCIENTISTS modeled. they are still gonna rise due to the selfish dumbfuck hayseed states that refused to be inconvenienced for a few weeks & stay the fuck home.

1. Unnecessary deaths? Got a link proving that? Even the crazy "hoax" democrats aren't claiming that?!
2. Donny can waive regs, but NOT LAWS. Read the fucking LAW. I gave you the link

simply not having the PPE or ventilators or even fucking SWABS for the tests is a fail on donny's part. bigley. that's the first thing in line to saving lives. they knew this was coming & shut the experts out of meetings specifically held regarding COVID 19 held in a SCIF at the HHS.

that's another thing di-rectly attributed to deaths occurring needlessly.

I see words but no link or proof.
Words are meaningless without proof.
They're doing 150,000 tests a day. The CDC started out doing 300. That's a win. The capacity is increasing in leaps and bounds, so democrats have no room to talk after the disaster, train-wreck, embarrassment, known as the Obamacare rollout happened, when the web site didn't work. His crowning achievement?!. You can try to pick nits against Trump, but everyone sees how a government is supposed to function, especially after 8-years of BO & Biden.

whatever happened to:
"Over a million tests have been distributed," Pence said, and "before the end of this week, another 4 million tests will be distributed." ?

or donny saying “Anybody that wants a test [for the coronavirus] can get a test.”

NONE of that has even been close to happening; guess they fucking lied.

that is a FAIL on donny's part. a bigley FAIL.

anyhoo, about them thar links? i never claim a thing without credible links to back it up:

Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot
By Melissa HealyStaff Writer
April 7, 2020
12:39 PM
The United States has roughly 173,000 ventilators scattered across the country, according to the Center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins University. It may sound like a lot, but there could be 31 times as many patients who need one, experts from Harvard Medical School predict.
Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot


Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Audrey Conklin
Fox BusinessApril 7, 2020
The United States' shortage of novel coronavirus test kits is the result of rapidly increasing demand met with a weak national supply chain and disruptive federal regulations.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of the Inspector General interviewed 323 hospitals across 46 States in March and issued a report Monday that found most U.S. hospitals are experiencing testing shortages and extended wait times for test results.

A shortage of COVID-19 test kits is similarly a direct result of rapidly growing demand for COVID-19 kits and a "shortage of physical components" needed to make the tests, The New Yorker reported on March 24.

The physical components in question include virtual transport media, which are used to safely transport a specimen taken from a patient to a lab; extraction kits, which isolate viral RNA from biological samples; reagents, which are substances or compounds added to a sample to determine whether it contains COVID-19; and test swabs, according to The New Yorker.
Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources
Politics
March 11, 2020 / 4:29 PM / a month ago

Aram Roston, Marisa Taylor
7 Min Read


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion, according to four Trump administration officials.

The officials said that dozens of classified discussions about such topics as the scope of infections, quarantines and travel restrictions have been held since mid-January in a high-security meeting room at the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), a key player in the fight against the coronavirus.
Staffers without security clearances, including government experts, were excluded from the interagency meetings, which included video conference calls, the sources said.

“We had some very critical people who did not have security clearances who could not go,” one official said. “These should not be classified meetings. It was unnecessary.”
Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources

you're welcome.

1. They are doing 100,000 to 150,000 tests per day, that adds up to over 1m in a few days. Additional capacity is being added as it becomes available, such as the 15-minute test and the 5-minute test. Anyone can get a test as long as they have a doctor's order. US Historical Data

2. Ventilators are adequate. They are being moved from cool spots to hot spots, they are also being mass produced by GM & Tesla & Ford.
"The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) estimates that the concurrent need for ventilators in the United States will peak at about 17,000 on April 14, though the actual number could fall anywhere within a range of about 8,000 to 35,500. It’s estimated that we have about 170,000 ventilators in the country..."

3. Test kit shortage? Not true, its not March 4th???. Try to stay current. They are doing about 150,000 tests per day, and that will be ramping up as more equipment comes online. The new 15-minute and 5-minute tests will be game-changers when widely available, as well as the new "anti-body" tests. US Historical Data

4. Trump is having daily pressers with any questions the MSM wants to ask. If the WH has classified meetings, that is their prerogative.

5. You're welcome again, see how well the Federal Government can be run with competent managers.

Trump is reactive we needed proactive.

WTF are you smokin? We need Trump, period. Your democrap talking points aren't working. Maybe you need to focus more on Joe Biden than Trump? No one is going to vote for Sleazy Breezy Joe.

You sure? Because in 2016 more people voted for Hillary than Trump. And that was before Trump proved to be incompetent.

Trump cut funding to the departments that deal with infectious diseases. That alone exposes him and all Republicans for not understanding the importance of government. Now we see what happens when Republicans cut important government positions.

No, those positions weren't important, until a virus came. So Trump gambled and lost. He's FIRED.

1. Yes I'm sure, I'm voting for Trump over Biden. I'm also sure that Trump hasn't lost any voters from 2016. You haven't been bragging on old Joe? How come??
2. "Incompetent" was rolling out Obamacare and have the web site not work. "Incompetent" was giving Iran $1.7b in cash via plane and another $150b in sanctions relief to develop their nuke and ICBM programs as well aas fund their terror networks.
3. Trump did not cut funding or dissolve its pandemic response team. Stop lying, but then again, that's all the democrats have, lies. Lies about the Mueller INvestigation, lies about Russian Collusion, lies about Ukraine and the sham impeachment.

No, the White House Didn’t ‘Dissolve’ Its Pandemic Response Office | RealClearPolitics

President Trump gets his share of criticism some warranted, much not. But recently the presidents critics have chosen curious ground to question his...

www.realclearpolitics.com

Yes he did cut funding and cut out positions that were specifically created to deal with pandemics. Why are you denying? And you can't even provide a link explaining that Trump did not cut funding? Simply you Trump supporters just say it's not true and that's that? Fucking brainwashed liars. But at least you admit nothing even common sense and facts won't change your small brain.

• The Trump administration has also spent the past several years dismantling the very government programs responsible for combatting a global health crisis.

Trump spent the past 2 years slashing the government agencies responsible for handling the coronavirus outbreak

The Trump administration has spent the past several years gutting the government programs responsible for combatting a global health crisis.

www.businessinsider.com

In 2018, for instance, the CDC cut 80% of its efforts to prevent global disease outbreaks because it was running out of money. Ultimately, the department went from working in 49 countries to just 10.

Here are some other actions the Trump administration undertook to dismantle government-spending programs related to fighting the spread of global diseases, according to Foreign Policy:

• Shutting down the entire global-health-security unit of the National Security Council.
• Eliminating the US government's $30 million Complex Crises Fund.
• Reducing national health spending by $15 billion.
• Consistently attacking Mark Green, the director of the US Agency for International Development.

Trump did NOT cut funding. Congress fully funded those agencies. So says politifact:

Did Donald Trump fire pandemic officials, defund CDC?

During a CNN town hall before the South Carolina primary, Mike Bloomberg — a former New York City mayor and Democratic p

www.politifact.com

Seriously, new poll to you Republicans. Who would you vote for? Lex Luthor or Hillary Clinton? Biden or Lex? Lex or Obama?

Lex is a fictional character, the Dimms you listed are all war criminals.

That's fiction. What you just said. Bush is actually a war criminal though.

How is Bush but not Obama and Clinton? Please Explain. I say they all are.

 

[Bobob]

We went from 2 million projected deaths to 60,000.

Trump is doing fine. Pelosi is the dumb whore who went to Chinatown and told everybody to visit in a really stupid political stunt.

unfuckingbelievable; only a deplorable would think that 60K dead is a win for donny.

60k dead is a win for Donny, look at the EU for comparison, the EU has 3x the US deaths

The "experts" predicted 2,200,000 US deaths at the start of the pandemic based on global rates:

'Terrifying' New Research Warns 2.2 Million Could Die From Coronavirus in US Without Drastic Action

"Only now is the White House coming out of denial and heading straight into saying it could not have been foreseen."

www.commondreams.org

Then the US did so well that the "experts" revised their predictions downward to between 100,00 and 200,000 US deaths

100,000–200,000 COVID-19 Deaths. Where Does That Estimate Come From?

Infectious disease modelers are projecting COVID-19 death toll.

www.managedhealthcareexecutive.com

The "experts" latest predictions are for about 60,000 US deaths, so I'd say that the Trump/Pence team is doing just fine, that's a win.

Fauci Says U.S. Coronavirus Deaths May Be 'More Like 60,000'; Antibody Tests On Way

The predicted death toll has fallen, Dr. Anthony Fauci says, because of Americans' embrace of physical separation and other restrictions.

www.npr.org

ummmm.... no. most were unnecessary deaths. the vast majority could have been prevented if donny didn't ignore the warnings, waived the regs early on, signed & enforced the DPA early on, AND signed off on a NATION WIDE shelter in place directive. if he didn't finally do what was needed, the numbers would be as high as the SCIENTISTS modeled. they are still gonna rise due to the selfish dumbfuck hayseed states that refused to be inconvenienced for a few weeks & stay the fuck home.

1. Unnecessary deaths? Got a link proving that? Even the crazy "hoax" democrats aren't claiming that?!
2. Donny can waive regs, but NOT LAWS. Read the fucking LAW. I gave you the link

simply not having the PPE or ventilators or even fucking SWABS for the tests is a fail on donny's part. bigley. that's the first thing in line to saving lives. they knew this was coming & shut the experts out of meetings specifically held regarding COVID 19 held in a SCIF at the HHS.

that's another thing di-rectly attributed to deaths occurring needlessly.

I see words but no link or proof.
Words are meaningless without proof.
They're doing 150,000 tests a day. The CDC started out doing 300. That's a win. The capacity is increasing in leaps and bounds, so democrats have no room to talk after the disaster, train-wreck, embarrassment, known as the Obamacare rollout happened, when the web site didn't work. His crowning achievement?!. You can try to pick nits against Trump, but everyone sees how a government is supposed to function, especially after 8-years of BO & Biden.

whatever happened to:
"Over a million tests have been distributed," Pence said, and "before the end of this week, another 4 million tests will be distributed." ?

or donny saying “Anybody that wants a test [for the coronavirus] can get a test.”

NONE of that has even been close to happening; guess they fucking lied.

that is a FAIL on donny's part. a bigley FAIL.

anyhoo, about them thar links? i never claim a thing without credible links to back it up:

Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot
By Melissa HealyStaff Writer
April 7, 2020
12:39 PM
The United States has roughly 173,000 ventilators scattered across the country, according to the Center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins University. It may sound like a lot, but there could be 31 times as many patients who need one, experts from Harvard Medical School predict.
Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot


Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Audrey Conklin
Fox BusinessApril 7, 2020
The United States' shortage of novel coronavirus test kits is the result of rapidly increasing demand met with a weak national supply chain and disruptive federal regulations.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of the Inspector General interviewed 323 hospitals across 46 States in March and issued a report Monday that found most U.S. hospitals are experiencing testing shortages and extended wait times for test results.

A shortage of COVID-19 test kits is similarly a direct result of rapidly growing demand for COVID-19 kits and a "shortage of physical components" needed to make the tests, The New Yorker reported on March 24.

The physical components in question include virtual transport media, which are used to safely transport a specimen taken from a patient to a lab; extraction kits, which isolate viral RNA from biological samples; reagents, which are substances or compounds added to a sample to determine whether it contains COVID-19; and test swabs, according to The New Yorker.
Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources
Politics
March 11, 2020 / 4:29 PM / a month ago

Aram Roston, Marisa Taylor
7 Min Read


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion, according to four Trump administration officials.

The officials said that dozens of classified discussions about such topics as the scope of infections, quarantines and travel restrictions have been held since mid-January in a high-security meeting room at the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), a key player in the fight against the coronavirus.
Staffers without security clearances, including government experts, were excluded from the interagency meetings, which included video conference calls, the sources said.

“We had some very critical people who did not have security clearances who could not go,” one official said. “These should not be classified meetings. It was unnecessary.”
Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources

you're welcome.

1. They are doing 100,000 to 150,000 tests per day, that adds up to over 1m in a few days. Additional capacity is being added as it becomes available, such as the 15-minute test and the 5-minute test. Anyone can get a test as long as they have a doctor's order. US Historical Data

2. Ventilators are adequate. They are being moved from cool spots to hot spots, they are also being mass produced by GM & Tesla & Ford.
"The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) estimates that the concurrent need for ventilators in the United States will peak at about 17,000 on April 14, though the actual number could fall anywhere within a range of about 8,000 to 35,500. It’s estimated that we have about 170,000 ventilators in the country..."

3. Test kit shortage? Not true, its not March 4th???. Try to stay current. They are doing about 150,000 tests per day, and that will be ramping up as more equipment comes online. The new 15-minute and 5-minute tests will be game-changers when widely available, as well as the new "anti-body" tests. US Historical Data

4. Trump is having daily pressers with any questions the MSM wants to ask. If the WH has classified meetings, that is their prerogative.

5. You're welcome again, see how well the Federal Government can be run with competent managers.

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

I always knew this site had more cons than libs. That's all this poll is showing us. Just confirming what I already knew. And it's ridiculous to say Trump has handled this well. Clearly by the discussions we've all been having these past months, he is showing his lack of leadership.

At the start of this those on the left, along with the NT crowd, all mocked him for closing travel from China's infected areas, even trying to label him racist for doing so...That experts agree, was probably the single best thing he could have done....

And even after such, Trump has been managing this better than many I can think of....Just remember the past administration waiting a full 8 months to declare in a similar circumstance, allowing a thousand people to die, including children.....

Snopes has rated that report as FALSE.

 

[sealybobo]

We went from 2 million projected deaths to 60,000.

Trump is doing fine. Pelosi is the dumb whore who went to Chinatown and told everybody to visit in a really stupid political stunt.

unfuckingbelievable; only a deplorable would think that 60K dead is a win for donny.

60k dead is a win for Donny, look at the EU for comparison, the EU has 3x the US deaths

The "experts" predicted 2,200,000 US deaths at the start of the pandemic based on global rates:

'Terrifying' New Research Warns 2.2 Million Could Die From Coronavirus in US Without Drastic Action

"Only now is the White House coming out of denial and heading straight into saying it could not have been foreseen."

www.commondreams.org

Then the US did so well that the "experts" revised their predictions downward to between 100,00 and 200,000 US deaths

100,000–200,000 COVID-19 Deaths. Where Does That Estimate Come From?

Infectious disease modelers are projecting COVID-19 death toll.

www.managedhealthcareexecutive.com

The "experts" latest predictions are for about 60,000 US deaths, so I'd say that the Trump/Pence team is doing just fine, that's a win.

Fauci Says U.S. Coronavirus Deaths May Be 'More Like 60,000'; Antibody Tests On Way

The predicted death toll has fallen, Dr. Anthony Fauci says, because of Americans' embrace of physical separation and other restrictions.

www.npr.org

ummmm.... no. most were unnecessary deaths. the vast majority could have been prevented if donny didn't ignore the warnings, waived the regs early on, signed & enforced the DPA early on, AND signed off on a NATION WIDE shelter in place directive. if he didn't finally do what was needed, the numbers would be as high as the SCIENTISTS modeled. they are still gonna rise due to the selfish dumbfuck hayseed states that refused to be inconvenienced for a few weeks & stay the fuck home.

1. Unnecessary deaths? Got a link proving that? Even the crazy "hoax" democrats aren't claiming that?!
2. Donny can waive regs, but NOT LAWS. Read the fucking LAW. I gave you the link

simply not having the PPE or ventilators or even fucking SWABS for the tests is a fail on donny's part. bigley. that's the first thing in line to saving lives. they knew this was coming & shut the experts out of meetings specifically held regarding COVID 19 held in a SCIF at the HHS.

that's another thing di-rectly attributed to deaths occurring needlessly.

I see words but no link or proof.
Words are meaningless without proof.
They're doing 150,000 tests a day. The CDC started out doing 300. That's a win. The capacity is increasing in leaps and bounds, so democrats have no room to talk after the disaster, train-wreck, embarrassment, known as the Obamacare rollout happened, when the web site didn't work. His crowning achievement?!. You can try to pick nits against Trump, but everyone sees how a government is supposed to function, especially after 8-years of BO & Biden.

whatever happened to:
"Over a million tests have been distributed," Pence said, and "before the end of this week, another 4 million tests will be distributed." ?

or donny saying “Anybody that wants a test [for the coronavirus] can get a test.”

NONE of that has even been close to happening; guess they fucking lied.

that is a FAIL on donny's part. a bigley FAIL.

anyhoo, about them thar links? i never claim a thing without credible links to back it up:

Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot
By Melissa HealyStaff Writer
April 7, 2020
12:39 PM
The United States has roughly 173,000 ventilators scattered across the country, according to the Center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins University. It may sound like a lot, but there could be 31 times as many patients who need one, experts from Harvard Medical School predict.
Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot


Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Audrey Conklin
Fox BusinessApril 7, 2020
The United States' shortage of novel coronavirus test kits is the result of rapidly increasing demand met with a weak national supply chain and disruptive federal regulations.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of the Inspector General interviewed 323 hospitals across 46 States in March and issued a report Monday that found most U.S. hospitals are experiencing testing shortages and extended wait times for test results.

A shortage of COVID-19 test kits is similarly a direct result of rapidly growing demand for COVID-19 kits and a "shortage of physical components" needed to make the tests, The New Yorker reported on March 24.

The physical components in question include virtual transport media, which are used to safely transport a specimen taken from a patient to a lab; extraction kits, which isolate viral RNA from biological samples; reagents, which are substances or compounds added to a sample to determine whether it contains COVID-19; and test swabs, according to The New Yorker.
Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources
Politics
March 11, 2020 / 4:29 PM / a month ago

Aram Roston, Marisa Taylor
7 Min Read


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion, according to four Trump administration officials.

The officials said that dozens of classified discussions about such topics as the scope of infections, quarantines and travel restrictions have been held since mid-January in a high-security meeting room at the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), a key player in the fight against the coronavirus.
Staffers without security clearances, including government experts, were excluded from the interagency meetings, which included video conference calls, the sources said.

“We had some very critical people who did not have security clearances who could not go,” one official said. “These should not be classified meetings. It was unnecessary.”
Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources

you're welcome.

1. They are doing 100,000 to 150,000 tests per day, that adds up to over 1m in a few days. Additional capacity is being added as it becomes available, such as the 15-minute test and the 5-minute test. Anyone can get a test as long as they have a doctor's order. US Historical Data

2. Ventilators are adequate. They are being moved from cool spots to hot spots, they are also being mass produced by GM & Tesla & Ford.
"The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) estimates that the concurrent need for ventilators in the United States will peak at about 17,000 on April 14, though the actual number could fall anywhere within a range of about 8,000 to 35,500. It’s estimated that we have about 170,000 ventilators in the country..."

3. Test kit shortage? Not true, its not March 4th???. Try to stay current. They are doing about 150,000 tests per day, and that will be ramping up as more equipment comes online. The new 15-minute and 5-minute tests will be game-changers when widely available, as well as the new "anti-body" tests. US Historical Data

4. Trump is having daily pressers with any questions the MSM wants to ask. If the WH has classified meetings, that is their prerogative.

5. You're welcome again, see how well the Federal Government can be run with competent managers.

Trump is reactive we needed proactive.

WTF are you smokin? We need Trump, period. Your democrap talking points aren't working. Maybe you need to focus more on Joe Biden than Trump? No one is going to vote for Sleazy Breezy Joe.

You sure? Because in 2016 more people voted for Hillary than Trump. And that was before Trump proved to be incompetent.

Trump cut funding to the departments that deal with infectious diseases. That alone exposes him and all Republicans for not understanding the importance of government. Now we see what happens when Republicans cut important government positions.

No, those positions weren't important, until a virus came. So Trump gambled and lost. He's FIRED.

1. Yes I'm sure, I'm voting for Trump over Biden. I'm also sure that Trump hasn't lost any voters from 2016. You haven't been bragging on old Joe? How come??
2. "Incompetent" was rolling out Obamacare and have the web site not work. "Incompetent" was giving Iran $1.7b in cash via plane and another $150b in sanctions relief to develop their nuke and ICBM programs as well aas fund their terror networks.
3. Trump did not cut funding or dissolve its pandemic response team. Stop lying, but then again, that's all the democrats have, lies. Lies about the Mueller INvestigation, lies about Russian Collusion, lies about Ukraine and the sham impeachment.

No, the White House Didn’t ‘Dissolve’ Its Pandemic Response Office | RealClearPolitics

President Trump gets his share of criticism some warranted, much not. But recently the presidents critics have chosen curious ground to question his...

www.realclearpolitics.com

Yes he did cut funding and cut out positions that were specifically created to deal with pandemics. Why are you denying? And you can't even provide a link explaining that Trump did not cut funding? Simply you Trump supporters just say it's not true and that's that? Fucking brainwashed liars. But at least you admit nothing even common sense and facts won't change your small brain.

• The Trump administration has also spent the past several years dismantling the very government programs responsible for combatting a global health crisis.

Trump spent the past 2 years slashing the government agencies responsible for handling the coronavirus outbreak

The Trump administration has spent the past several years gutting the government programs responsible for combatting a global health crisis.

www.businessinsider.com

In 2018, for instance, the CDC cut 80% of its efforts to prevent global disease outbreaks because it was running out of money. Ultimately, the department went from working in 49 countries to just 10.

Here are some other actions the Trump administration undertook to dismantle government-spending programs related to fighting the spread of global diseases, according to Foreign Policy:

• Shutting down the entire global-health-security unit of the National Security Council.
• Eliminating the US government's $30 million Complex Crises Fund.
• Reducing national health spending by $15 billion.
• Consistently attacking Mark Green, the director of the US Agency for International Development.

Trump did NOT cut funding. Congress fully funded those agencies. So says politifact:

Did Donald Trump fire pandemic officials, defund CDC?

During a CNN town hall before the South Carolina primary, Mike Bloomberg — a former New York City mayor and Democratic p

www.politifact.com

Seriously, new poll to you Republicans. Who would you vote for? Lex Luthor or Hillary Clinton? Biden or Lex? Lex or Obama?

Lex is a fictional character, the Dimms you listed are all war criminals.

That's fiction. What you just said. Bush is actually a war criminal though.

How is Bush but not Obama and Clinton? Please Explain. I say they all are.

I know how Bush is war criminal but I'm not aware that Obama and Clinton are. Who convicted them?

In November 2011 the tribunal purportedly exercised universal jurisdiction to try in absentia former US President George W. Bush and former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, convicting both for crimes against peace because of what the tribunal concluded was the unlawful invasion of Iraq.

Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission - Wikipedia

 

[sealybobo]

We went from 2 million projected deaths to 60,000.

Trump is doing fine. Pelosi is the dumb whore who went to Chinatown and told everybody to visit in a really stupid political stunt.

unfuckingbelievable; only a deplorable would think that 60K dead is a win for donny.

60k dead is a win for Donny, look at the EU for comparison, the EU has 3x the US deaths

The "experts" predicted 2,200,000 US deaths at the start of the pandemic based on global rates:

'Terrifying' New Research Warns 2.2 Million Could Die From Coronavirus in US Without Drastic Action

"Only now is the White House coming out of denial and heading straight into saying it could not have been foreseen."

www.commondreams.org

Then the US did so well that the "experts" revised their predictions downward to between 100,00 and 200,000 US deaths

100,000–200,000 COVID-19 Deaths. Where Does That Estimate Come From?

Infectious disease modelers are projecting COVID-19 death toll.

www.managedhealthcareexecutive.com

The "experts" latest predictions are for about 60,000 US deaths, so I'd say that the Trump/Pence team is doing just fine, that's a win.

Fauci Says U.S. Coronavirus Deaths May Be 'More Like 60,000'; Antibody Tests On Way

The predicted death toll has fallen, Dr. Anthony Fauci says, because of Americans' embrace of physical separation and other restrictions.

www.npr.org

ummmm.... no. most were unnecessary deaths. the vast majority could have been prevented if donny didn't ignore the warnings, waived the regs early on, signed & enforced the DPA early on, AND signed off on a NATION WIDE shelter in place directive. if he didn't finally do what was needed, the numbers would be as high as the SCIENTISTS modeled. they are still gonna rise due to the selfish dumbfuck hayseed states that refused to be inconvenienced for a few weeks & stay the fuck home.

1. Unnecessary deaths? Got a link proving that? Even the crazy "hoax" democrats aren't claiming that?!
2. Donny can waive regs, but NOT LAWS. Read the fucking LAW. I gave you the link

simply not having the PPE or ventilators or even fucking SWABS for the tests is a fail on donny's part. bigley. that's the first thing in line to saving lives. they knew this was coming & shut the experts out of meetings specifically held regarding COVID 19 held in a SCIF at the HHS.

that's another thing di-rectly attributed to deaths occurring needlessly.

I see words but no link or proof.
Words are meaningless without proof.
They're doing 150,000 tests a day. The CDC started out doing 300. That's a win. The capacity is increasing in leaps and bounds, so democrats have no room to talk after the disaster, train-wreck, embarrassment, known as the Obamacare rollout happened, when the web site didn't work. His crowning achievement?!. You can try to pick nits against Trump, but everyone sees how a government is supposed to function, especially after 8-years of BO & Biden.

whatever happened to:
"Over a million tests have been distributed," Pence said, and "before the end of this week, another 4 million tests will be distributed." ?

or donny saying “Anybody that wants a test [for the coronavirus] can get a test.”

NONE of that has even been close to happening; guess they fucking lied.

that is a FAIL on donny's part. a bigley FAIL.

anyhoo, about them thar links? i never claim a thing without credible links to back it up:

Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot
By Melissa HealyStaff Writer
April 7, 2020
12:39 PM
The United States has roughly 173,000 ventilators scattered across the country, according to the Center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins University. It may sound like a lot, but there could be 31 times as many patients who need one, experts from Harvard Medical School predict.
Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot


Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Audrey Conklin
Fox BusinessApril 7, 2020
The United States' shortage of novel coronavirus test kits is the result of rapidly increasing demand met with a weak national supply chain and disruptive federal regulations.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of the Inspector General interviewed 323 hospitals across 46 States in March and issued a report Monday that found most U.S. hospitals are experiencing testing shortages and extended wait times for test results.

A shortage of COVID-19 test kits is similarly a direct result of rapidly growing demand for COVID-19 kits and a "shortage of physical components" needed to make the tests, The New Yorker reported on March 24.

The physical components in question include virtual transport media, which are used to safely transport a specimen taken from a patient to a lab; extraction kits, which isolate viral RNA from biological samples; reagents, which are substances or compounds added to a sample to determine whether it contains COVID-19; and test swabs, according to The New Yorker.
Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources
Politics
March 11, 2020 / 4:29 PM / a month ago

Aram Roston, Marisa Taylor
7 Min Read


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion, according to four Trump administration officials.

The officials said that dozens of classified discussions about such topics as the scope of infections, quarantines and travel restrictions have been held since mid-January in a high-security meeting room at the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), a key player in the fight against the coronavirus.
Staffers without security clearances, including government experts, were excluded from the interagency meetings, which included video conference calls, the sources said.

“We had some very critical people who did not have security clearances who could not go,” one official said. “These should not be classified meetings. It was unnecessary.”
Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources

you're welcome.

1. They are doing 100,000 to 150,000 tests per day, that adds up to over 1m in a few days. Additional capacity is being added as it becomes available, such as the 15-minute test and the 5-minute test. Anyone can get a test as long as they have a doctor's order. US Historical Data

2. Ventilators are adequate. They are being moved from cool spots to hot spots, they are also being mass produced by GM & Tesla & Ford.
"The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) estimates that the concurrent need for ventilators in the United States will peak at about 17,000 on April 14, though the actual number could fall anywhere within a range of about 8,000 to 35,500. It’s estimated that we have about 170,000 ventilators in the country..."

3. Test kit shortage? Not true, its not March 4th???. Try to stay current. They are doing about 150,000 tests per day, and that will be ramping up as more equipment comes online. The new 15-minute and 5-minute tests will be game-changers when widely available, as well as the new "anti-body" tests. US Historical Data

4. Trump is having daily pressers with any questions the MSM wants to ask. If the WH has classified meetings, that is their prerogative.

5. You're welcome again, see how well the Federal Government can be run with competent managers.

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

I always knew this site had more cons than libs. That's all this poll is showing us. Just confirming what I already knew. And it's ridiculous to say Trump has handled this well. Clearly by the discussions we've all been having these past months, he is showing his lack of leadership.

At the start of this those on the left, along with the NT crowd, all mocked him for closing travel from China's infected areas, even trying to label him racist for doing so...That experts agree, was probably the single best thing he could have done....

And even after such, Trump has been managing this better than many I can think of....Just remember the past administration waiting a full 8 months to declare in a similar circumstance, allowing a thousand people to die, including children.....

Snopes has rated that report as FALSE.

Of course they'll want to talk about past administrations

Opinion | A Complete List of Trump’s Attempts to Play Down Coronavirus (Published 2020)

He could have taken action. He didn’t.

www.nytimes.com

Fact check: Trump tries to erase the memory of him downplaying the coronavirus

The somber President Donald Trump of Monday's press conference bore little resemblance to the Trump who had relentlessly played down the coronavirus over the previous two months.

www.cnn.com

From January until last week, Trump consistently minimized the risk the coronavirus posed to the country. He claimed to have the virus under "control," that the number of US cases would go "down, not up," that the virus might "disappear" through a "miracle" or something of the sort, that the virus might well vanish by April with the warmer weather, that the media and Democrats were overhyping the situation, and that "this is their new hoax," leaving it unclear whether he was calling the virus itself a hoax. (He later said he was talking about Democrats' coronavirus-related criticism, not the virus.)

Prior to the World Health Organization's official pandemic declaration on March 11, Trump had never told Americans that he viewed the situation as a potential pandemic. When he was asked by CNBC in an interview that aired January 22 if there were worries about a pandemic, he responded, "No. Not at all. And -- we're -- we have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It's going to be just fine."
On March 9, Trump tweeted, "So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!" On March 10, the day before the WHO's pandemic declaration, Trump said, "And we're prepared, and we're doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away."
He added: "It's really working out. And a lot of good things are going to happen."

 

[jasonnfree]

No surprise here. An overwhelmingly far right forum voting for this bucket of piss trump.

 

[Bobob]

No surprise here. An overwhelmingly far right forum voting for this bucket of piss trump.

The forum conveniently far right, but more likely uninformed, uneducated and conned by a professional grifter.

 

[Papageorgio]

Neither.

Nope. You have to pick one. November is coming. Who do you want driving the bus?
(I was going to put more options, like neither, or Cuomo, but they are not on November's ballot)

I'd vote for a third party over those two.

 

[Norman]

No surprise here. An overwhelmingly far right forum voting for this bucket of piss trump.

So which do you guys hate more, the forum or America?

Still doesn't stop you from participating in either.

 

[two_iron]

We went from 2 million projected deaths to 60,000.

Trump is doing fine. Pelosi is the dumb whore who went to Chinatown and told everybody to visit in a really stupid political stunt.

unfuckingbelievable; only a deplorable would think that 60K dead is a win for donny.

60k dead is a win for Donny, look at the EU for comparison, the EU has 3x the US deaths

The "experts" predicted 2,200,000 US deaths at the start of the pandemic based on global rates:

'Terrifying' New Research Warns 2.2 Million Could Die From Coronavirus in US Without Drastic Action

"Only now is the White House coming out of denial and heading straight into saying it could not have been foreseen."

www.commondreams.org

Then the US did so well that the "experts" revised their predictions downward to between 100,00 and 200,000 US deaths

100,000–200,000 COVID-19 Deaths. Where Does That Estimate Come From?

Infectious disease modelers are projecting COVID-19 death toll.

www.managedhealthcareexecutive.com

The "experts" latest predictions are for about 60,000 US deaths, so I'd say that the Trump/Pence team is doing just fine, that's a win.

Fauci Says U.S. Coronavirus Deaths May Be 'More Like 60,000'; Antibody Tests On Way

The predicted death toll has fallen, Dr. Anthony Fauci says, because of Americans' embrace of physical separation and other restrictions.

www.npr.org

ummmm.... no. most were unnecessary deaths. the vast majority could have been prevented if donny didn't ignore the warnings, waived the regs early on, signed & enforced the DPA early on, AND signed off on a NATION WIDE shelter in place directive. if he didn't finally do what was needed, the numbers would be as high as the SCIENTISTS modeled. they are still gonna rise due to the selfish dumbfuck hayseed states that refused to be inconvenienced for a few weeks & stay the fuck home.

1. Unnecessary deaths? Got a link proving that? Even the crazy "hoax" democrats aren't claiming that?!
2. Donny can waive regs, but NOT LAWS. Read the fucking LAW. I gave you the link

simply not having the PPE or ventilators or even fucking SWABS for the tests is a fail on donny's part. bigley. that's the first thing in line to saving lives. they knew this was coming & shut the experts out of meetings specifically held regarding COVID 19 held in a SCIF at the HHS.

that's another thing di-rectly attributed to deaths occurring needlessly.

I see words but no link or proof.
Words are meaningless without proof.
They're doing 150,000 tests a day. The CDC started out doing 300. That's a win. The capacity is increasing in leaps and bounds, so democrats have no room to talk after the disaster, train-wreck, embarrassment, known as the Obamacare rollout happened, when the web site didn't work. His crowning achievement?!. You can try to pick nits against Trump, but everyone sees how a government is supposed to function, especially after 8-years of BO & Biden.

whatever happened to:
"Over a million tests have been distributed," Pence said, and "before the end of this week, another 4 million tests will be distributed." ?

or donny saying “Anybody that wants a test [for the coronavirus] can get a test.”

NONE of that has even been close to happening; guess they fucking lied.

that is a FAIL on donny's part. a bigley FAIL.

anyhoo, about them thar links? i never claim a thing without credible links to back it up:

Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot
By Melissa HealyStaff Writer
April 7, 2020
12:39 PM
The United States has roughly 173,000 ventilators scattered across the country, according to the Center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins University. It may sound like a lot, but there could be 31 times as many patients who need one, experts from Harvard Medical School predict.
Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot


Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Audrey Conklin
Fox BusinessApril 7, 2020
The United States' shortage of novel coronavirus test kits is the result of rapidly increasing demand met with a weak national supply chain and disruptive federal regulations.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of the Inspector General interviewed 323 hospitals across 46 States in March and issued a report Monday that found most U.S. hospitals are experiencing testing shortages and extended wait times for test results.

A shortage of COVID-19 test kits is similarly a direct result of rapidly growing demand for COVID-19 kits and a "shortage of physical components" needed to make the tests, The New Yorker reported on March 24.

The physical components in question include virtual transport media, which are used to safely transport a specimen taken from a patient to a lab; extraction kits, which isolate viral RNA from biological samples; reagents, which are substances or compounds added to a sample to determine whether it contains COVID-19; and test swabs, according to The New Yorker.
Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources
Politics
March 11, 2020 / 4:29 PM / a month ago

Aram Roston, Marisa Taylor
7 Min Read


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion, according to four Trump administration officials.

The officials said that dozens of classified discussions about such topics as the scope of infections, quarantines and travel restrictions have been held since mid-January in a high-security meeting room at the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), a key player in the fight against the coronavirus.
Staffers without security clearances, including government experts, were excluded from the interagency meetings, which included video conference calls, the sources said.

“We had some very critical people who did not have security clearances who could not go,” one official said. “These should not be classified meetings. It was unnecessary.”
Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources

you're welcome.

1. They are doing 100,000 to 150,000 tests per day, that adds up to over 1m in a few days. Additional capacity is being added as it becomes available, such as the 15-minute test and the 5-minute test. Anyone can get a test as long as they have a doctor's order. US Historical Data

2. Ventilators are adequate. They are being moved from cool spots to hot spots, they are also being mass produced by GM & Tesla & Ford.
"The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) estimates that the concurrent need for ventilators in the United States will peak at about 17,000 on April 14, though the actual number could fall anywhere within a range of about 8,000 to 35,500. It’s estimated that we have about 170,000 ventilators in the country..."

3. Test kit shortage? Not true, its not March 4th???. Try to stay current. They are doing about 150,000 tests per day, and that will be ramping up as more equipment comes online. The new 15-minute and 5-minute tests will be game-changers when widely available, as well as the new "anti-body" tests. US Historical Data

4. Trump is having daily pressers with any questions the MSM wants to ask. If the WH has classified meetings, that is their prerogative.

5. You're welcome again, see how well the Federal Government can be run with competent managers.

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

I always knew this site had more cons than libs. That's all this poll is showing us. Just confirming what I already knew. And it's ridiculous to say Trump has handled this well. Clearly by the discussions we've all been having these past months, he is showing his lack of leadership.

At the start of this those on the left, along with the NT crowd, all mocked him for closing travel from China's infected areas, even trying to label him racist for doing so...That experts agree, was probably the single best thing he could have done....

And even after such, Trump has been managing this better than many I can think of....Just remember the past administration waiting a full 8 months to declare in a similar circumstance, allowing a thousand people to die, including children.....

Snopes has rated that report as FALSE.

Jesus Christ on a bike, son. Snopes is owned and run by a couple of inbred shitsticks from mexifornia via canada the land of snowbound sister-fuckers. They're left of Chairman Mao for chrissakes...

Not trying to be mean, but this is what you're worshiping:

I dunno, maybe you look like that too. Carry on.

 

[sealybobo]

We went from 2 million projected deaths to 60,000.

Trump is doing fine. Pelosi is the dumb whore who went to Chinatown and told everybody to visit in a really stupid political stunt.

unfuckingbelievable; only a deplorable would think that 60K dead is a win for donny.

60k dead is a win for Donny, look at the EU for comparison, the EU has 3x the US deaths

The "experts" predicted 2,200,000 US deaths at the start of the pandemic based on global rates:

'Terrifying' New Research Warns 2.2 Million Could Die From Coronavirus in US Without Drastic Action

"Only now is the White House coming out of denial and heading straight into saying it could not have been foreseen."

www.commondreams.org

Then the US did so well that the "experts" revised their predictions downward to between 100,00 and 200,000 US deaths

100,000–200,000 COVID-19 Deaths. Where Does That Estimate Come From?

Infectious disease modelers are projecting COVID-19 death toll.

www.managedhealthcareexecutive.com

The "experts" latest predictions are for about 60,000 US deaths, so I'd say that the Trump/Pence team is doing just fine, that's a win.

Fauci Says U.S. Coronavirus Deaths May Be 'More Like 60,000'; Antibody Tests On Way

The predicted death toll has fallen, Dr. Anthony Fauci says, because of Americans' embrace of physical separation and other restrictions.

www.npr.org

ummmm.... no. most were unnecessary deaths. the vast majority could have been prevented if donny didn't ignore the warnings, waived the regs early on, signed & enforced the DPA early on, AND signed off on a NATION WIDE shelter in place directive. if he didn't finally do what was needed, the numbers would be as high as the SCIENTISTS modeled. they are still gonna rise due to the selfish dumbfuck hayseed states that refused to be inconvenienced for a few weeks & stay the fuck home.

1. Unnecessary deaths? Got a link proving that? Even the crazy "hoax" democrats aren't claiming that?!
2. Donny can waive regs, but NOT LAWS. Read the fucking LAW. I gave you the link

simply not having the PPE or ventilators or even fucking SWABS for the tests is a fail on donny's part. bigley. that's the first thing in line to saving lives. they knew this was coming & shut the experts out of meetings specifically held regarding COVID 19 held in a SCIF at the HHS.

that's another thing di-rectly attributed to deaths occurring needlessly.

I see words but no link or proof.
Words are meaningless without proof.
They're doing 150,000 tests a day. The CDC started out doing 300. That's a win. The capacity is increasing in leaps and bounds, so democrats have no room to talk after the disaster, train-wreck, embarrassment, known as the Obamacare rollout happened, when the web site didn't work. His crowning achievement?!. You can try to pick nits against Trump, but everyone sees how a government is supposed to function, especially after 8-years of BO & Biden.

whatever happened to:
"Over a million tests have been distributed," Pence said, and "before the end of this week, another 4 million tests will be distributed." ?

or donny saying “Anybody that wants a test [for the coronavirus] can get a test.”

NONE of that has even been close to happening; guess they fucking lied.

that is a FAIL on donny's part. a bigley FAIL.

anyhoo, about them thar links? i never claim a thing without credible links to back it up:

Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot
By Melissa HealyStaff Writer
April 7, 2020
12:39 PM
The United States has roughly 173,000 ventilators scattered across the country, according to the Center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins University. It may sound like a lot, but there could be 31 times as many patients who need one, experts from Harvard Medical School predict.
Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot


Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Audrey Conklin
Fox BusinessApril 7, 2020
The United States' shortage of novel coronavirus test kits is the result of rapidly increasing demand met with a weak national supply chain and disruptive federal regulations.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of the Inspector General interviewed 323 hospitals across 46 States in March and issued a report Monday that found most U.S. hospitals are experiencing testing shortages and extended wait times for test results.

A shortage of COVID-19 test kits is similarly a direct result of rapidly growing demand for COVID-19 kits and a "shortage of physical components" needed to make the tests, The New Yorker reported on March 24.

The physical components in question include virtual transport media, which are used to safely transport a specimen taken from a patient to a lab; extraction kits, which isolate viral RNA from biological samples; reagents, which are substances or compounds added to a sample to determine whether it contains COVID-19; and test swabs, according to The New Yorker.
Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources
Politics
March 11, 2020 / 4:29 PM / a month ago

Aram Roston, Marisa Taylor
7 Min Read


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion, according to four Trump administration officials.

The officials said that dozens of classified discussions about such topics as the scope of infections, quarantines and travel restrictions have been held since mid-January in a high-security meeting room at the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), a key player in the fight against the coronavirus.
Staffers without security clearances, including government experts, were excluded from the interagency meetings, which included video conference calls, the sources said.

“We had some very critical people who did not have security clearances who could not go,” one official said. “These should not be classified meetings. It was unnecessary.”
Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources

you're welcome.

1. They are doing 100,000 to 150,000 tests per day, that adds up to over 1m in a few days. Additional capacity is being added as it becomes available, such as the 15-minute test and the 5-minute test. Anyone can get a test as long as they have a doctor's order. US Historical Data

2. Ventilators are adequate. They are being moved from cool spots to hot spots, they are also being mass produced by GM & Tesla & Ford.
"The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) estimates that the concurrent need for ventilators in the United States will peak at about 17,000 on April 14, though the actual number could fall anywhere within a range of about 8,000 to 35,500. It’s estimated that we have about 170,000 ventilators in the country..."

3. Test kit shortage? Not true, its not March 4th???. Try to stay current. They are doing about 150,000 tests per day, and that will be ramping up as more equipment comes online. The new 15-minute and 5-minute tests will be game-changers when widely available, as well as the new "anti-body" tests. US Historical Data

4. Trump is having daily pressers with any questions the MSM wants to ask. If the WH has classified meetings, that is their prerogative.

5. You're welcome again, see how well the Federal Government can be run with competent managers.

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

I always knew this site had more cons than libs. That's all this poll is showing us. Just confirming what I already knew. And it's ridiculous to say Trump has handled this well. Clearly by the discussions we've all been having these past months, he is showing his lack of leadership.

At the start of this those on the left, along with the NT crowd, all mocked him for closing travel from China's infected areas, even trying to label him racist for doing so...That experts agree, was probably the single best thing he could have done....

And even after such, Trump has been managing this better than many I can think of....Just remember the past administration waiting a full 8 months to declare in a similar circumstance, allowing a thousand people to die, including children.....

Snopes has rated that report as FALSE.

Jesus Christ on a bike, son. Snopes is owned and run by a couple of inbred shitsticks from mexifornia via canada the land of snowbound sister-fuckers. They're left of Chairman Mao for chrissakes...

Not trying to be mean, but this is what you're worshiping:

I dunno, maybe you look like that too. Carry on.

Sorry but you righties need to come up with your own snoops then.

we give great details explaining why you’re wrong or lying in politifact and snopes. You need to be able to rebut the information within. You don’t get to just blow off the source. That’s not fair. Just cause fox and rush aren’t saying it don’t mean it’s not true.

and this just proves the mainstream media isn’t as liberal as you think or say

 

[Unkotare]

Did someone actually say “that’s not fair”?

Really?

I thought this was the politics forum, not first grade.

 

[sealybobo]

Did someone actually say “that’s not fair”?

Really?

I thought this was the politics forum, not first grade.

its like evolution v creation. It’s not fair evolution provides so much evidence and all creation provides is a fairytale written by goat herders 2000 years ago

 

[sealybobo]

Did someone actually say “that’s not fair”?

Really?

I thought this was the politics forum, not first grade.

Just google trump too late and see what pops up. If you can please provide me with one article defending trumps response to the virus.

i haven’t seen one yet. Every pro trump defense Ignores the timeline.

 

[gipper]

Neither.

Nope. You have to pick one. November is coming. Who do you want driving the bus?
(I was going to put more options, like neither, or Cuomo, but they are not on November's ballot)

I'd vote for a third party over those two.

What’s the point?

 

[playtime]

We went from 2 million projected deaths to 60,000.

Trump is doing fine. Pelosi is the dumb whore who went to Chinatown and told everybody to visit in a really stupid political stunt.

unfuckingbelievable; only a deplorable would think that 60K dead is a win for donny.

60k dead is a win for Donny, look at the EU for comparison, the EU has 3x the US deaths

The "experts" predicted 2,200,000 US deaths at the start of the pandemic based on global rates:

'Terrifying' New Research Warns 2.2 Million Could Die From Coronavirus in US Without Drastic Action

"Only now is the White House coming out of denial and heading straight into saying it could not have been foreseen."

www.commondreams.org

Then the US did so well that the "experts" revised their predictions downward to between 100,00 and 200,000 US deaths

100,000–200,000 COVID-19 Deaths. Where Does That Estimate Come From?

Infectious disease modelers are projecting COVID-19 death toll.

www.managedhealthcareexecutive.com

The "experts" latest predictions are for about 60,000 US deaths, so I'd say that the Trump/Pence team is doing just fine, that's a win.

Fauci Says U.S. Coronavirus Deaths May Be 'More Like 60,000'; Antibody Tests On Way

The predicted death toll has fallen, Dr. Anthony Fauci says, because of Americans' embrace of physical separation and other restrictions.

www.npr.org

ummmm.... no. most were unnecessary deaths. the vast majority could have been prevented if donny didn't ignore the warnings, waived the regs early on, signed & enforced the DPA early on, AND signed off on a NATION WIDE shelter in place directive. if he didn't finally do what was needed, the numbers would be as high as the SCIENTISTS modeled. they are still gonna rise due to the selfish dumbfuck hayseed states that refused to be inconvenienced for a few weeks & stay the fuck home.

1. Unnecessary deaths? Got a link proving that? Even the crazy "hoax" democrats aren't claiming that?!
2. Donny can waive regs, but NOT LAWS. Read the fucking LAW. I gave you the link

simply not having the PPE or ventilators or even fucking SWABS for the tests is a fail on donny's part. bigley. that's the first thing in line to saving lives. they knew this was coming & shut the experts out of meetings specifically held regarding COVID 19 held in a SCIF at the HHS.

that's another thing di-rectly attributed to deaths occurring needlessly.

I see words but no link or proof.
Words are meaningless without proof.
They're doing 150,000 tests a day. The CDC started out doing 300. That's a win. The capacity is increasing in leaps and bounds, so democrats have no room to talk after the disaster, train-wreck, embarrassment, known as the Obamacare rollout happened, when the web site didn't work. His crowning achievement?!. You can try to pick nits against Trump, but everyone sees how a government is supposed to function, especially after 8-years of BO & Biden.

whatever happened to:
"Over a million tests have been distributed," Pence said, and "before the end of this week, another 4 million tests will be distributed." ?

or donny saying “Anybody that wants a test [for the coronavirus] can get a test.”

NONE of that has even been close to happening; guess they fucking lied.

that is a FAIL on donny's part. a bigley FAIL.

anyhoo, about them thar links? i never claim a thing without credible links to back it up:

Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot
By Melissa HealyStaff Writer
April 7, 2020
12:39 PM
The United States has roughly 173,000 ventilators scattered across the country, according to the Center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins University. It may sound like a lot, but there could be 31 times as many patients who need one, experts from Harvard Medical School predict.
Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot


Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Audrey Conklin
Fox BusinessApril 7, 2020
The United States' shortage of novel coronavirus test kits is the result of rapidly increasing demand met with a weak national supply chain and disruptive federal regulations.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of the Inspector General interviewed 323 hospitals across 46 States in March and issued a report Monday that found most U.S. hospitals are experiencing testing shortages and extended wait times for test results.

A shortage of COVID-19 test kits is similarly a direct result of rapidly growing demand for COVID-19 kits and a "shortage of physical components" needed to make the tests, The New Yorker reported on March 24.

The physical components in question include virtual transport media, which are used to safely transport a specimen taken from a patient to a lab; extraction kits, which isolate viral RNA from biological samples; reagents, which are substances or compounds added to a sample to determine whether it contains COVID-19; and test swabs, according to The New Yorker.
Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources
Politics
March 11, 2020 / 4:29 PM / a month ago

Aram Roston, Marisa Taylor
7 Min Read


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion, according to four Trump administration officials.

The officials said that dozens of classified discussions about such topics as the scope of infections, quarantines and travel restrictions have been held since mid-January in a high-security meeting room at the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), a key player in the fight against the coronavirus.
Staffers without security clearances, including government experts, were excluded from the interagency meetings, which included video conference calls, the sources said.

“We had some very critical people who did not have security clearances who could not go,” one official said. “These should not be classified meetings. It was unnecessary.”
Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources

you're welcome.

1. They are doing 100,000 to 150,000 tests per day, that adds up to over 1m in a few days. Additional capacity is being added as it becomes available, such as the 15-minute test and the 5-minute test. Anyone can get a test as long as they have a doctor's order. US Historical Data

2. Ventilators are adequate. They are being moved from cool spots to hot spots, they are also being mass produced by GM & Tesla & Ford.
"The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) estimates that the concurrent need for ventilators in the United States will peak at about 17,000 on April 14, though the actual number could fall anywhere within a range of about 8,000 to 35,500. It’s estimated that we have about 170,000 ventilators in the country..."

3. Test kit shortage? Not true, its not March 4th???. Try to stay current. They are doing about 150,000 tests per day, and that will be ramping up as more equipment comes online. The new 15-minute and 5-minute tests will be game-changers when widely available, as well as the new "anti-body" tests. US Historical Data

4. Trump is having daily pressers with any questions the MSM wants to ask. If the WH has classified meetings, that is their prerogative.

5. You're welcome again, see how well the Federal Government can be run with competent managers.

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

I always knew this site had more cons than libs. That's all this poll is showing us. Just confirming what I already knew. And it's ridiculous to say Trump has handled this well. Clearly by the discussions we've all been having these past months, he is showing his lack of leadership.

At the start of this those on the left, along with the NT crowd, all mocked him for closing travel from China's infected areas, even trying to label him racist for doing so...That experts agree, was probably the single best thing he could have done....

And even after such, Trump has been managing this better than many I can think of....Just remember the past administration waiting a full 8 months to declare in a similar circumstance, allowing a thousand people to die, including children.....

Snopes has rated that report as FALSE.

Jesus Christ on a bike, son. Snopes is owned and run by a couple of inbred shitsticks from mexifornia via canada the land of snowbound sister-fuckers. They're left of Chairman Mao for chrissakes...

Not trying to be mean, but this is what you're worshiping:

I dunno, maybe you look like that too. Carry on.

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