Who would you rather as president managing the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?" (poll)

[j-mac]

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

I always knew this site had more cons than libs. That's all this poll is showing us. Just confirming what I already knew. And it's ridiculous to say Trump has handled this well. Clearly by the discussions we've all been having these past months, he is showing his lack of leadership.

At the start of this those on the left, along with the NT crowd, all mocked him for closing travel from China's infected areas, even trying to label him racist for doing so...That experts agree, was probably the single best thing he could have done....

And even after such, Trump has been managing this better than many I can think of....Just remember the past administration waiting a full 8 months to declare in a similar circumstance, allowing a thousand people to die, including children.....

The circumstances were hardly similar. Trump waited 2 months while Korea et, al began the process. He spent that time accusing the Democrats of a "hoax" and announced that he had the situation under control. The damage was done when Trump did his China thing and he was not mocked by most. He is indeed a racist, and not for that move.
Trump is doing a poor job of managing the crisis. He put 2 inexperienced hacks in charge rather than the medical and scientific community. He erased the pandemic regulations that were in place before he took office. He is a feckless grifter and you have been grifted.

So many lies in that post, I really don't know if responding would do any good. Clearly you have been told before that this type of lying is laughable....

No lies in that post, champ. Watch Trump in action and you will see one lie after another coming out of the grifter's
asshole.

That's real mature of you....So tell us, what's mommy teaching you during homeschooling? Little I suspect...

 

[j-mac]

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

I always knew this site had more cons than libs. That's all this poll is showing us. Just confirming what I already knew. And it's ridiculous to say Trump has handled this well. Clearly by the discussions we've all been having these past months, he is showing his lack of leadership.

At the start of this those on the left, along with the NT crowd, all mocked him for closing travel from China's infected areas, even trying to label him racist for doing so...That experts agree, was probably the single best thing he could have done....

And even after such, Trump has been managing this better than many I can think of....Just remember the past administration waiting a full 8 months to declare in a similar circumstance, allowing a thousand people to die, including children.....

Say it like trump would. You think he has handled it perfectly. Better than anyone else believe me.

No, I wouldn't go that far, but overall, I think he has done better than any of the democrat/NTer ankle biters out there carping without specifics...

Bet you were a republican during the obama years.

I've been a proud Conservative since Ronald Reagan, whom I voted for twice....I'll bet you've always been a dumbass liberal...

 

[wamose]

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

Trump did nothing for 2 months since he knew about the virus in January. He spent those 2 months in denial and accusing the Dems of a "hoax". He appointed 2 inexperienced hacks to head his response to the virus, instead of medical and science professionals. So let's look at it differently, yes? Hint: Obama care was very successful and Trump, jealous of all things Obama,
tried to kill the program rather than fix it. Oh, he promised better, cheaper healthcare to replace it. A feckless grifter.

Trump was told by WHO that there was no human to human transmission. By mid January we observed this to be a lie and he acted within ten days. That was with democrats yelling all is well and trying to impeach him.

Bad shit happened to the USA because republicans were distracting Bill with monicagate

Bill should have kept his gun in its holster or found a better place. Kennedy boinked 'em all over the place.

Republicans could have started a marilyngate but they didn’t back then. And funny every republican who went after Bill, Larry Flynn exposed them all for being hypocrites but republicans didn’t care. Theyd gladly sacrifice those rooks to get the queen or king.

And today republicans who were bothered that Bill was cigaring Monica don’t mind that trump was raw dogging porn stars.

Explain that please:
1. Bill Clinton, President of the US shoved a cigar up a young intern in the WH, and that's just fine with democrats, it was "consensual"?! Any manager in the US would be fired immediately and never work again for anything even close to that moral turpitude.
View attachment 322290
2. Trump tipped well for dates with a porn star or two, well before he was president. So I don't mind if Trump used some of his winnings on beautiful women. Tell me you are morally outraged at that?! Then I call bullshit.
View attachment 322287 Say Hi to Karen....Stormy is hot too....

I wonder if the cigar was more grossed out to be inside Monica's vagina or in Clinton's mouth? Old Billy probably picked up moves like that from hanging with Epstein.

 

[Bobob]

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

Trump did nothing for 2 months since he knew about the virus in January. He spent those 2 months in denial and accusing the Dems of a "hoax". He appointed 2 inexperienced hacks to head his response to the virus, instead of medical and science professionals. So let's look at it differently, yes? Hint: Obama care was very successful and Trump, jealous of all things Obama,
tried to kill the program rather than fix it. Oh, he promised better, cheaper healthcare to replace it. A feckless grifter.

Trump was told by WHO that there was no human to human transmission. By mid January we observed this to be a lie and he acted within ten days. That was with democrats yelling all is well and trying to impeach him.

Bad shit happened to the USA because republicans were distracting Bill with monicagate

Bill should have kept his gun in its holster or found a better place. Kennedy boinked 'em all over the place.

Republicans could have started a marilyngate but they didn’t back then. And funny every republican who went after Bill, Larry Flynn exposed them all for being hypocrites but republicans didn’t care. Theyd gladly sacrifice those rooks to get the queen or king.

And today republicans who were bothered that Bill was cigaring Monica don’t mind that trump was raw dogging porn stars.

Explain that please:
1. Bill Clinton, President of the US shoved a cigar up a young intern in the WH, and that's just fine with democrats, it was "consensual"?! Any manager in the US would be fired immediately and never work again for anything even close to that moral turpitude.
View attachment 322290
2. Trump tipped well for dates with a porn star or two, well before he was president. So I don't mind if Trump used some of his winnings on beautiful women. Tell me you are morally outraged at that?! Then I call bullshit.
View attachment 322287 Say Hi to Karen....Stormy is hot too....

I wonder if the cigar was more grossed out to be inside Monica's vagina or in Clinton's mouth? Old Billy probably picked up moves like that from hanging with Epstein.

I think the cigar was overjoyed with the Monica option

 

[playtime]

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

I always knew this site had more cons than libs. That's all this poll is showing us. Just confirming what I already knew. And it's ridiculous to say Trump has handled this well. Clearly by the discussions we've all been having these past months, he is showing his lack of leadership.

At the start of this those on the left, along with the NT crowd, all mocked him for closing travel from China's infected areas, even trying to label him racist for doing so...That experts agree, was probably the single best thing he could have done....

And even after such, Trump has been managing this better than many I can think of....Just remember the past administration waiting a full 8 months to declare in a similar circumstance, allowing a thousand people to die, including children.....

The circumstances were hardly similar. Trump waited 2 months while Korea et, al began the process. He spent that time accusing the Democrats of a "hoax" and announced that he had the situation under control. The damage was done when Trump did his China thing and he was not mocked by most. He is indeed a racist, and not for that move.
Trump is doing a poor job of managing the crisis. He put 2 inexperienced hacks in charge rather than the medical and scientific community. He erased the pandemic regulations that were in place before he took office. He is a feckless grifter and you have been grifted.

So many lies in that post, I really don't know if responding would do any good. Clearly you have been told before that this type of lying is laughable....

No lies in that post, champ. Watch Trump in action and you will see one lie after another coming out of the grifter's
asshole.

That's real mature of you....So tell us, what's mommy teaching you during homeschooling? Little I suspect...

lol.... i am being taught how to use juvenile names to call people who criticize me :

nervous nancy , little marco , mini mike, crying chuck, shifty shiff, pencil neck shiff, sleepy joe, crooked hillary, dickey durbin, jeff flakey, al frankenstein, low IQ maxine.... need i go on?

but the BEST thing mama taught me was how to make fun of someone's disability like the 'president' does !!!!

 

[j-mac]

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

I always knew this site had more cons than libs. That's all this poll is showing us. Just confirming what I already knew. And it's ridiculous to say Trump has handled this well. Clearly by the discussions we've all been having these past months, he is showing his lack of leadership.

At the start of this those on the left, along with the NT crowd, all mocked him for closing travel from China's infected areas, even trying to label him racist for doing so...That experts agree, was probably the single best thing he could have done....

And even after such, Trump has been managing this better than many I can think of....Just remember the past administration waiting a full 8 months to declare in a similar circumstance, allowing a thousand people to die, including children.....

The circumstances were hardly similar. Trump waited 2 months while Korea et, al began the process. He spent that time accusing the Democrats of a "hoax" and announced that he had the situation under control. The damage was done when Trump did his China thing and he was not mocked by most. He is indeed a racist, and not for that move.
Trump is doing a poor job of managing the crisis. He put 2 inexperienced hacks in charge rather than the medical and scientific community. He erased the pandemic regulations that were in place before he took office. He is a feckless grifter and you have been grifted.

So many lies in that post, I really don't know if responding would do any good. Clearly you have been told before that this type of lying is laughable....

No lies in that post, champ. Watch Trump in action and you will see one lie after another coming out of the grifter's
asshole.

That's real mature of you....So tell us, what's mommy teaching you during homeschooling? Little I suspect...

lol.... i am being taught how to use juvenile names to call people who criticize me :

nervous nancy , little marco , mini mike, crying chuck, shifty shiff, pencil neck shiff, sleepy joe, crooked hillary, dickey durbin, jeff flakey, al frankenstein, low IQ maxine.... need i go on?

but the BEST thing mama taught me was how to make fun of someone's disability like the 'president' does !!!!

I am so glad he triggers you....

 

[playtime]

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

I always knew this site had more cons than libs. That's all this poll is showing us. Just confirming what I already knew. And it's ridiculous to say Trump has handled this well. Clearly by the discussions we've all been having these past months, he is showing his lack of leadership.

At the start of this those on the left, along with the NT crowd, all mocked him for closing travel from China's infected areas, even trying to label him racist for doing so...That experts agree, was probably the single best thing he could have done....

And even after such, Trump has been managing this better than many I can think of....Just remember the past administration waiting a full 8 months to declare in a similar circumstance, allowing a thousand people to die, including children.....

The circumstances were hardly similar. Trump waited 2 months while Korea et, al began the process. He spent that time accusing the Democrats of a "hoax" and announced that he had the situation under control. The damage was done when Trump did his China thing and he was not mocked by most. He is indeed a racist, and not for that move.
Trump is doing a poor job of managing the crisis. He put 2 inexperienced hacks in charge rather than the medical and scientific community. He erased the pandemic regulations that were in place before he took office. He is a feckless grifter and you have been grifted.

So many lies in that post, I really don't know if responding would do any good. Clearly you have been told before that this type of lying is laughable....

No lies in that post, champ. Watch Trump in action and you will see one lie after another coming out of the grifter's
asshole.

That's real mature of you....So tell us, what's mommy teaching you during homeschooling? Little I suspect...

lol.... i am being taught how to use juvenile names to call people who criticize me :

nervous nancy , little marco , mini mike, crying chuck, shifty shiff, pencil neck shiff, sleepy joe, crooked hillary, dickey durbin, jeff flakey, al frankenstein, low IQ maxine.... need i go on?

but the BEST thing mama taught me was how to make fun of someone's disability like the 'president' does !!!!

I am so glad he triggers you....

uh-huh. ^ typical deplorable answer when no retort is possible.

 

[kyzr]

We went from 2 million projected deaths to 60,000.

Trump is doing fine. Pelosi is the dumb whore who went to Chinatown and told everybody to visit in a really stupid political stunt.

unfuckingbelievable; only a deplorable would think that 60K dead is a win for donny.

60k dead is a win for Donny, look at the EU for comparison, the EU has 3x the US deaths

The "experts" predicted 2,200,000 US deaths at the start of the pandemic based on global rates:

'Terrifying' New Research Warns 2.2 Million Could Die From Coronavirus in US Without Drastic Action

"Only now is the White House coming out of denial and heading straight into saying it could not have been foreseen."

www.commondreams.org

Then the US did so well that the "experts" revised their predictions downward to between 100,00 and 200,000 US deaths

100,000–200,000 COVID-19 Deaths. Where Does That Estimate Come From?

Infectious disease modelers are projecting COVID-19 death toll.

www.managedhealthcareexecutive.com

The "experts" latest predictions are for about 60,000 US deaths, so I'd say that the Trump/Pence team is doing just fine, that's a win.

Fauci Says U.S. Coronavirus Deaths May Be 'More Like 60,000'; Antibody Tests On Way

The predicted death toll has fallen, Dr. Anthony Fauci says, because of Americans' embrace of physical separation and other restrictions.

www.npr.org

ummmm.... no. most were unnecessary deaths. the vast majority could have been prevented if donny didn't ignore the warnings, waived the regs early on, signed & enforced the DPA early on, AND signed off on a NATION WIDE shelter in place directive. if he didn't finally do what was needed, the numbers would be as high as the SCIENTISTS modeled. they are still gonna rise due to the selfish dumbfuck hayseed states that refused to be inconvenienced for a few weeks & stay the fuck home.

1. Unnecessary deaths? Got a link proving that? Even the crazy "hoax" democrats aren't claiming that?!
2. Donny can waive regs, but NOT LAWS. Read the fucking LAW. I gave you the link

simply not having the PPE or ventilators or even fucking SWABS for the tests is a fail on donny's part. bigley. that's the first thing in line to saving lives. they knew this was coming & shut the experts out of meetings specifically held regarding COVID 19 held in a SCIF at the HHS.

that's another thing di-rectly attributed to deaths occurring needlessly.

I see words but no link or proof.
Words are meaningless without proof.
They're doing 150,000 tests a day. The CDC started out doing 300. That's a win. The capacity is increasing in leaps and bounds, so democrats have no room to talk after the disaster, train-wreck, embarrassment, known as the Obamacare rollout happened, when the web site didn't work. His crowning achievement?!. You can try to pick nits against Trump, but everyone sees how a government is supposed to function, especially after 8-years of BO & Biden.

whatever happened to:
"Over a million tests have been distributed," Pence said, and "before the end of this week, another 4 million tests will be distributed." ?

or donny saying “Anybody that wants a test [for the coronavirus] can get a test.”

NONE of that has even been close to happening; guess they fucking lied.

that is a FAIL on donny's part. a bigley FAIL.

anyhoo, about them thar links? i never claim a thing without credible links to back it up:

Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot
By Melissa HealyStaff Writer
April 7, 2020
12:39 PM
The United States has roughly 173,000 ventilators scattered across the country, according to the Center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins University. It may sound like a lot, but there could be 31 times as many patients who need one, experts from Harvard Medical School predict.
Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot


Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Audrey Conklin
Fox BusinessApril 7, 2020
The United States' shortage of novel coronavirus test kits is the result of rapidly increasing demand met with a weak national supply chain and disruptive federal regulations.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of the Inspector General interviewed 323 hospitals across 46 States in March and issued a report Monday that found most U.S. hospitals are experiencing testing shortages and extended wait times for test results.

A shortage of COVID-19 test kits is similarly a direct result of rapidly growing demand for COVID-19 kits and a "shortage of physical components" needed to make the tests, The New Yorker reported on March 24.

The physical components in question include virtual transport media, which are used to safely transport a specimen taken from a patient to a lab; extraction kits, which isolate viral RNA from biological samples; reagents, which are substances or compounds added to a sample to determine whether it contains COVID-19; and test swabs, according to The New Yorker.
Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources
Politics
March 11, 2020 / 4:29 PM / a month ago

Aram Roston, Marisa Taylor
7 Min Read


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion, according to four Trump administration officials.

The officials said that dozens of classified discussions about such topics as the scope of infections, quarantines and travel restrictions have been held since mid-January in a high-security meeting room at the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), a key player in the fight against the coronavirus.
Staffers without security clearances, including government experts, were excluded from the interagency meetings, which included video conference calls, the sources said.

“We had some very critical people who did not have security clearances who could not go,” one official said. “These should not be classified meetings. It was unnecessary.”
Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources

you're welcome.

1. They are doing 100,000 to 150,000 tests per day, that adds up to over 1m in a few days. Additional capacity is being added as it becomes available, such as the 15-minute test and the 5-minute test. Anyone can get a test as long as they have a doctor's order. US Historical Data

2. Ventilators are adequate. They are being moved from cool spots to hot spots, they are also being mass produced by GM & Tesla & Ford.
"The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) estimates that the concurrent need for ventilators in the United States will peak at about 17,000 on April 14, though the actual number could fall anywhere within a range of about 8,000 to 35,500. It’s estimated that we have about 170,000 ventilators in the country..."

3. Test kit shortage? Not true, its not March 4th???. Try to stay current. They are doing about 150,000 tests per day, and that will be ramping up as more equipment comes online. The new 15-minute and 5-minute tests will be game-changers when widely available, as well as the new "anti-body" tests. US Historical Data

4. Trump is having daily pressers with any questions the MSM wants to ask. If the WH has classified meetings, that is their prerogative.

5. You're welcome again, see how well the Federal Government can be run with competent managers.

 

[ColonelAngus]

We went from 2 million projected deaths to 60,000.

Trump is doing fine. Pelosi is the dumb whore who went to Chinatown and told everybody to visit in a really stupid political stunt.

unfuckingbelievable; only a deplorable would think that 60K dead is a win for donny.

60k dead is a win for Donny, look at the EU for comparison, the EU has 3x the US deaths

The "experts" predicted 2,200,000 US deaths at the start of the pandemic based on global rates:

'Terrifying' New Research Warns 2.2 Million Could Die From Coronavirus in US Without Drastic Action

"Only now is the White House coming out of denial and heading straight into saying it could not have been foreseen."

www.commondreams.org

Then the US did so well that the "experts" revised their predictions downward to between 100,00 and 200,000 US deaths

100,000–200,000 COVID-19 Deaths. Where Does That Estimate Come From?

Infectious disease modelers are projecting COVID-19 death toll.

www.managedhealthcareexecutive.com

The "experts" latest predictions are for about 60,000 US deaths, so I'd say that the Trump/Pence team is doing just fine, that's a win.

Fauci Says U.S. Coronavirus Deaths May Be 'More Like 60,000'; Antibody Tests On Way

The predicted death toll has fallen, Dr. Anthony Fauci says, because of Americans' embrace of physical separation and other restrictions.

www.npr.org

ummmm.... no. most were unnecessary deaths. the vast majority could have been prevented if donny didn't ignore the warnings, waived the regs early on, signed & enforced the DPA early on, AND signed off on a NATION WIDE shelter in place directive. if he didn't finally do what was needed, the numbers would be as high as the SCIENTISTS modeled. they are still gonna rise due to the selfish dumbfuck hayseed states that refused to be inconvenienced for a few weeks & stay the fuck home.

1. Unnecessary deaths? Got a link proving that? Even the crazy "hoax" democrats aren't claiming that?!
2. Donny can waive regs, but NOT LAWS. Read the fucking LAW. I gave you the link

simply not having the PPE or ventilators or even fucking SWABS for the tests is a fail on donny's part. bigley. that's the first thing in line to saving lives. they knew this was coming & shut the experts out of meetings specifically held regarding COVID 19 held in a SCIF at the HHS.

that's another thing di-rectly attributed to deaths occurring needlessly.

I see words but no link or proof.
Words are meaningless without proof.
They're doing 150,000 tests a day. The CDC started out doing 300. That's a win. The capacity is increasing in leaps and bounds, so democrats have no room to talk after the disaster, train-wreck, embarrassment, known as the Obamacare rollout happened, when the web site didn't work. His crowning achievement?!. You can try to pick nits against Trump, but everyone sees how a government is supposed to function, especially after 8-years of BO & Biden.

whatever happened to:
"Over a million tests have been distributed," Pence said, and "before the end of this week, another 4 million tests will be distributed." ?

or donny saying “Anybody that wants a test [for the coronavirus] can get a test.”

NONE of that has even been close to happening; guess they fucking lied.

that is a FAIL on donny's part. a bigley FAIL.

anyhoo, about them thar links? i never claim a thing without credible links to back it up:

Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot
By Melissa HealyStaff Writer
April 7, 2020
12:39 PM
The United States has roughly 173,000 ventilators scattered across the country, according to the Center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins University. It may sound like a lot, but there could be 31 times as many patients who need one, experts from Harvard Medical School predict.
Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot


Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Audrey Conklin
Fox BusinessApril 7, 2020
The United States' shortage of novel coronavirus test kits is the result of rapidly increasing demand met with a weak national supply chain and disruptive federal regulations.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of the Inspector General interviewed 323 hospitals across 46 States in March and issued a report Monday that found most U.S. hospitals are experiencing testing shortages and extended wait times for test results.

A shortage of COVID-19 test kits is similarly a direct result of rapidly growing demand for COVID-19 kits and a "shortage of physical components" needed to make the tests, The New Yorker reported on March 24.

The physical components in question include virtual transport media, which are used to safely transport a specimen taken from a patient to a lab; extraction kits, which isolate viral RNA from biological samples; reagents, which are substances or compounds added to a sample to determine whether it contains COVID-19; and test swabs, according to The New Yorker.
Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources
Politics
March 11, 2020 / 4:29 PM / a month ago

Aram Roston, Marisa Taylor
7 Min Read


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion, according to four Trump administration officials.

The officials said that dozens of classified discussions about such topics as the scope of infections, quarantines and travel restrictions have been held since mid-January in a high-security meeting room at the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), a key player in the fight against the coronavirus.
Staffers without security clearances, including government experts, were excluded from the interagency meetings, which included video conference calls, the sources said.

“We had some very critical people who did not have security clearances who could not go,” one official said. “These should not be classified meetings. It was unnecessary.”
Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources

you're welcome.

1. They are doing 100,000 to 150,000 tests per day, that adds up to over 1m in a few days. Additional capacity is being added as it becomes available, such as the 15-minute test and the 5-minute test. Anyone can get a test as long as they have a doctor's order. US Historical Data

2. Ventilators are adequate. They are being moved from cool spots to hot spots, they are also being mass produced by GM & Tesla & Ford.
"The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) estimates that the concurrent need for ventilators in the United States will peak at about 17,000 on April 14, though the actual number could fall anywhere within a range of about 8,000 to 35,500. It’s estimated that we have about 170,000 ventilators in the country..."

3. Test kit shortage? Not true, its not March 4th???. Try to stay current. They are doing about 150,000 tests per day, and that will be ramping up as more equipment comes online. The new 15-minute and 5-minute tests will be game-changers when widely available, as well as the new "anti-body" tests. US Historical Data

4. Trump is having daily pressers with any questions the MSM wants to ask. If the WH has classified meetings, that is their prerogative.

5. You're welcome again, see how well the Federal Government can be run with competent managers.

Yes, but Orange Man Bad.

 

[kyzr]

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

Trump did nothing for 2 months since he knew about the virus in January. He spent those 2 months in denial and accusing the Dems of a "hoax". He appointed 2 inexperienced hacks to head his response to the virus, instead of medical and science professionals. So let's look at it differently, yes? Hint: Obama care was very successful and Trump, jealous of all things Obama,
tried to kill the program rather than fix it. Oh, he promised better, cheaper healthcare to replace it. A feckless grifter.

Trump was told by WHO that there was no human to human transmission. By mid January we observed this to be a lie and he acted within ten days. That was with democrats yelling all is well and trying to impeach him.

Bad shit happened to the USA because republicans were distracting Bill with monicagate

Bill should have kept his gun in its holster or found a better place. Kennedy boinked 'em all over the place.

Republicans could have started a marilyngate but they didn’t back then. And funny every republican who went after Bill, Larry Flynn exposed them all for being hypocrites but republicans didn’t care. Theyd gladly sacrifice those rooks to get the queen or king.

And today republicans who were bothered that Bill was cigaring Monica don’t mind that trump was raw dogging porn stars.

Explain that please:
1. Bill Clinton, President of the US shoved a cigar up a young intern in the WH, and that's just fine with democrats, it was "consensual"?! Any manager in the US would be fired immediately and never work again for anything even close to that moral turpitude.
View attachment 322290
2. Trump tipped well for dates with a porn star or two, well before he was president. So I don't mind if Trump used some of his winnings on beautiful women. Tell me you are morally outraged at that?! Then I call bullshit.
View attachment 322287 Say Hi to Karen....Stormy is hot too....

I wonder if the cigar was more grossed out to be inside Monica's vagina or in Clinton's mouth? Old Billy probably picked up moves like that from hanging with Epstein.

It is a little scary that the "IMF" could "off" Epstein in a high security prison, and get away so clean?!
Bubba Clinton got religion when his bag-man, Ron Brown, got double-tapped.
Barr has a full-plate of things that need to be looked into.

 

[sealybobo]

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

Trump did nothing for 2 months since he knew about the virus in January. He spent those 2 months in denial and accusing the Dems of a "hoax". He appointed 2 inexperienced hacks to head his response to the virus, instead of medical and science professionals. So let's look at it differently, yes? Hint: Obama care was very successful and Trump, jealous of all things Obama,
tried to kill the program rather than fix it. Oh, he promised better, cheaper healthcare to replace it. A feckless grifter.

Trump was told by WHO that there was no human to human transmission. By mid January we observed this to be a lie and he acted within ten days. That was with democrats yelling all is well and trying to impeach him.

Bad shit happened to the USA because republicans were distracting Bill with monicagate

Bill should have kept his gun in its holster or found a better place. Kennedy boinked 'em all over the place.

Republicans could have started a marilyngate but they didn’t back then. And funny every republican who went after Bill, Larry Flynn exposed them all for being hypocrites but republicans didn’t care. Theyd gladly sacrifice those rooks to get the queen or king.

And today republicans who were bothered that Bill was cigaring Monica don’t mind that trump was raw dogging porn stars.

Explain that please:
1. Bill Clinton, President of the US shoved a cigar up a young intern in the WH, and that's just fine with democrats, it was "consensual"?! Any manager in the US would be fired immediately and never work again for anything even close to that moral turpitude.
View attachment 322290
2. Trump tipped well for dates with a porn star or two, well before he was president. So I don't mind if Trump used some of his winnings on beautiful women. Tell me you are morally outraged at that?! Then I call bullshit.
View attachment 322287 Say Hi to Karen....Stormy is hot too....

I’m not morally outraged at either. Im calling out your sides hypocrites. You love to point out the differences. No, trump is a scumbag. He even sent a thug to stormy to threaten her and her child. You’ll say she’s lying but we all know trump tried to shut her up. Sure, point out how trump is a different type of scumbag. He and Clinton both hung out with Jeffrey Epstein. No doubt, you’re a hypocrite

 

[sealybobo]

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

I always knew this site had more cons than libs. That's all this poll is showing us. Just confirming what I already knew. And it's ridiculous to say Trump has handled this well. Clearly by the discussions we've all been having these past months, he is showing his lack of leadership.

At the start of this those on the left, along with the NT crowd, all mocked him for closing travel from China's infected areas, even trying to label him racist for doing so...That experts agree, was probably the single best thing he could have done....

And even after such, Trump has been managing this better than many I can think of....Just remember the past administration waiting a full 8 months to declare in a similar circumstance, allowing a thousand people to die, including children.....

The circumstances were hardly similar. Trump waited 2 months while Korea et, al began the process. He spent that time accusing the Democrats of a "hoax" and announced that he had the situation under control. The damage was done when Trump did his China thing and he was not mocked by most. He is indeed a racist, and not for that move.
Trump is doing a poor job of managing the crisis. He put 2 inexperienced hacks in charge rather than the medical and scientific community. He erased the pandemic regulations that were in place before he took office. He is a feckless grifter and you have been grifted.

So many lies in that post, I really don't know if responding would do any good. Clearly you have been told before that this type of lying is laughable....

No lies in that post, champ. Watch Trump in action and you will see one lie after another coming out of the grifter's
asshole.

Nah, you just don't like his style...That's a character problem that is all yours pal....

Nope. I don’t like his policies, him breaking laws that only the president can get away with because Mitch controls the senate. I don’t like his 2.3% growth he had in 2019 either. He’s a fake and you buying it. Actually trying to sell it too.

this coronavirus only highlights what a bad leader he is. He actually gutted the dept that deals with virus’. And put incompetent yes men in departments that deal with virus’

hey hey ho ho trumps got to go

 

[sealybobo]

We went from 2 million projected deaths to 60,000.

Trump is doing fine. Pelosi is the dumb whore who went to Chinatown and told everybody to visit in a really stupid political stunt.

unfuckingbelievable; only a deplorable would think that 60K dead is a win for donny.

60k dead is a win for Donny, look at the EU for comparison, the EU has 3x the US deaths

The "experts" predicted 2,200,000 US deaths at the start of the pandemic based on global rates:

'Terrifying' New Research Warns 2.2 Million Could Die From Coronavirus in US Without Drastic Action

"Only now is the White House coming out of denial and heading straight into saying it could not have been foreseen."

www.commondreams.org

Then the US did so well that the "experts" revised their predictions downward to between 100,00 and 200,000 US deaths

100,000–200,000 COVID-19 Deaths. Where Does That Estimate Come From?

Infectious disease modelers are projecting COVID-19 death toll.

www.managedhealthcareexecutive.com

The "experts" latest predictions are for about 60,000 US deaths, so I'd say that the Trump/Pence team is doing just fine, that's a win.

Fauci Says U.S. Coronavirus Deaths May Be 'More Like 60,000'; Antibody Tests On Way

The predicted death toll has fallen, Dr. Anthony Fauci says, because of Americans' embrace of physical separation and other restrictions.

www.npr.org

ummmm.... no. most were unnecessary deaths. the vast majority could have been prevented if donny didn't ignore the warnings, waived the regs early on, signed & enforced the DPA early on, AND signed off on a NATION WIDE shelter in place directive. if he didn't finally do what was needed, the numbers would be as high as the SCIENTISTS modeled. they are still gonna rise due to the selfish dumbfuck hayseed states that refused to be inconvenienced for a few weeks & stay the fuck home.

1. Unnecessary deaths? Got a link proving that? Even the crazy "hoax" democrats aren't claiming that?!
2. Donny can waive regs, but NOT LAWS. Read the fucking LAW. I gave you the link

simply not having the PPE or ventilators or even fucking SWABS for the tests is a fail on donny's part. bigley. that's the first thing in line to saving lives. they knew this was coming & shut the experts out of meetings specifically held regarding COVID 19 held in a SCIF at the HHS.

that's another thing di-rectly attributed to deaths occurring needlessly.

I see words but no link or proof.
Words are meaningless without proof.
They're doing 150,000 tests a day. The CDC started out doing 300. That's a win. The capacity is increasing in leaps and bounds, so democrats have no room to talk after the disaster, train-wreck, embarrassment, known as the Obamacare rollout happened, when the web site didn't work. His crowning achievement?!. You can try to pick nits against Trump, but everyone sees how a government is supposed to function, especially after 8-years of BO & Biden.

whatever happened to:
"Over a million tests have been distributed," Pence said, and "before the end of this week, another 4 million tests will be distributed." ?

or donny saying “Anybody that wants a test [for the coronavirus] can get a test.”

NONE of that has even been close to happening; guess they fucking lied.

that is a FAIL on donny's part. a bigley FAIL.

anyhoo, about them thar links? i never claim a thing without credible links to back it up:

Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot
By Melissa HealyStaff Writer
April 7, 2020
12:39 PM
The United States has roughly 173,000 ventilators scattered across the country, according to the Center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins University. It may sound like a lot, but there could be 31 times as many patients who need one, experts from Harvard Medical School predict.
Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot


Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Audrey Conklin
Fox BusinessApril 7, 2020
The United States' shortage of novel coronavirus test kits is the result of rapidly increasing demand met with a weak national supply chain and disruptive federal regulations.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of the Inspector General interviewed 323 hospitals across 46 States in March and issued a report Monday that found most U.S. hospitals are experiencing testing shortages and extended wait times for test results.

A shortage of COVID-19 test kits is similarly a direct result of rapidly growing demand for COVID-19 kits and a "shortage of physical components" needed to make the tests, The New Yorker reported on March 24.

The physical components in question include virtual transport media, which are used to safely transport a specimen taken from a patient to a lab; extraction kits, which isolate viral RNA from biological samples; reagents, which are substances or compounds added to a sample to determine whether it contains COVID-19; and test swabs, according to The New Yorker.
Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources
Politics
March 11, 2020 / 4:29 PM / a month ago

Aram Roston, Marisa Taylor
7 Min Read


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion, according to four Trump administration officials.

The officials said that dozens of classified discussions about such topics as the scope of infections, quarantines and travel restrictions have been held since mid-January in a high-security meeting room at the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), a key player in the fight against the coronavirus.
Staffers without security clearances, including government experts, were excluded from the interagency meetings, which included video conference calls, the sources said.

“We had some very critical people who did not have security clearances who could not go,” one official said. “These should not be classified meetings. It was unnecessary.”
Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources

you're welcome.

1. They are doing 100,000 to 150,000 tests per day, that adds up to over 1m in a few days. Additional capacity is being added as it becomes available, such as the 15-minute test and the 5-minute test. Anyone can get a test as long as they have a doctor's order. US Historical Data

2. Ventilators are adequate. They are being moved from cool spots to hot spots, they are also being mass produced by GM & Tesla & Ford.
"The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) estimates that the concurrent need for ventilators in the United States will peak at about 17,000 on April 14, though the actual number could fall anywhere within a range of about 8,000 to 35,500. It’s estimated that we have about 170,000 ventilators in the country..."

3. Test kit shortage? Not true, its not March 4th???. Try to stay current. They are doing about 150,000 tests per day, and that will be ramping up as more equipment comes online. The new 15-minute and 5-minute tests will be game-changers when widely available, as well as the new "anti-body" tests. US Historical Data

4. Trump is having daily pressers with any questions the MSM wants to ask. If the WH has classified meetings, that is their prerogative.

5. You're welcome again, see how well the Federal Government can be run with competent managers.

Trump is reactive we needed proactive.

 

[kyzr]

We went from 2 million projected deaths to 60,000.

Trump is doing fine. Pelosi is the dumb whore who went to Chinatown and told everybody to visit in a really stupid political stunt.

unfuckingbelievable; only a deplorable would think that 60K dead is a win for donny.

60k dead is a win for Donny, look at the EU for comparison, the EU has 3x the US deaths

The "experts" predicted 2,200,000 US deaths at the start of the pandemic based on global rates:

'Terrifying' New Research Warns 2.2 Million Could Die From Coronavirus in US Without Drastic Action

"Only now is the White House coming out of denial and heading straight into saying it could not have been foreseen."

www.commondreams.org

Then the US did so well that the "experts" revised their predictions downward to between 100,00 and 200,000 US deaths

100,000–200,000 COVID-19 Deaths. Where Does That Estimate Come From?

Infectious disease modelers are projecting COVID-19 death toll.

www.managedhealthcareexecutive.com

The "experts" latest predictions are for about 60,000 US deaths, so I'd say that the Trump/Pence team is doing just fine, that's a win.

Fauci Says U.S. Coronavirus Deaths May Be 'More Like 60,000'; Antibody Tests On Way

The predicted death toll has fallen, Dr. Anthony Fauci says, because of Americans' embrace of physical separation and other restrictions.

www.npr.org

ummmm.... no. most were unnecessary deaths. the vast majority could have been prevented if donny didn't ignore the warnings, waived the regs early on, signed & enforced the DPA early on, AND signed off on a NATION WIDE shelter in place directive. if he didn't finally do what was needed, the numbers would be as high as the SCIENTISTS modeled. they are still gonna rise due to the selfish dumbfuck hayseed states that refused to be inconvenienced for a few weeks & stay the fuck home.

1. Unnecessary deaths? Got a link proving that? Even the crazy "hoax" democrats aren't claiming that?!
2. Donny can waive regs, but NOT LAWS. Read the fucking LAW. I gave you the link

simply not having the PPE or ventilators or even fucking SWABS for the tests is a fail on donny's part. bigley. that's the first thing in line to saving lives. they knew this was coming & shut the experts out of meetings specifically held regarding COVID 19 held in a SCIF at the HHS.

that's another thing di-rectly attributed to deaths occurring needlessly.

I see words but no link or proof.
Words are meaningless without proof.
They're doing 150,000 tests a day. The CDC started out doing 300. That's a win. The capacity is increasing in leaps and bounds, so democrats have no room to talk after the disaster, train-wreck, embarrassment, known as the Obamacare rollout happened, when the web site didn't work. His crowning achievement?!. You can try to pick nits against Trump, but everyone sees how a government is supposed to function, especially after 8-years of BO & Biden.

whatever happened to:
"Over a million tests have been distributed," Pence said, and "before the end of this week, another 4 million tests will be distributed." ?

or donny saying “Anybody that wants a test [for the coronavirus] can get a test.”

NONE of that has even been close to happening; guess they fucking lied.

that is a FAIL on donny's part. a bigley FAIL.

anyhoo, about them thar links? i never claim a thing without credible links to back it up:

Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot
By Melissa HealyStaff Writer
April 7, 2020
12:39 PM
The United States has roughly 173,000 ventilators scattered across the country, according to the Center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins University. It may sound like a lot, but there could be 31 times as many patients who need one, experts from Harvard Medical School predict.
Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot


Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Audrey Conklin
Fox BusinessApril 7, 2020
The United States' shortage of novel coronavirus test kits is the result of rapidly increasing demand met with a weak national supply chain and disruptive federal regulations.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of the Inspector General interviewed 323 hospitals across 46 States in March and issued a report Monday that found most U.S. hospitals are experiencing testing shortages and extended wait times for test results.

A shortage of COVID-19 test kits is similarly a direct result of rapidly growing demand for COVID-19 kits and a "shortage of physical components" needed to make the tests, The New Yorker reported on March 24.

The physical components in question include virtual transport media, which are used to safely transport a specimen taken from a patient to a lab; extraction kits, which isolate viral RNA from biological samples; reagents, which are substances or compounds added to a sample to determine whether it contains COVID-19; and test swabs, according to The New Yorker.
Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources
Politics
March 11, 2020 / 4:29 PM / a month ago

Aram Roston, Marisa Taylor
7 Min Read


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion, according to four Trump administration officials.

The officials said that dozens of classified discussions about such topics as the scope of infections, quarantines and travel restrictions have been held since mid-January in a high-security meeting room at the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), a key player in the fight against the coronavirus.
Staffers without security clearances, including government experts, were excluded from the interagency meetings, which included video conference calls, the sources said.

“We had some very critical people who did not have security clearances who could not go,” one official said. “These should not be classified meetings. It was unnecessary.”
Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources

you're welcome.

1. They are doing 100,000 to 150,000 tests per day, that adds up to over 1m in a few days. Additional capacity is being added as it becomes available, such as the 15-minute test and the 5-minute test. Anyone can get a test as long as they have a doctor's order. US Historical Data

2. Ventilators are adequate. They are being moved from cool spots to hot spots, they are also being mass produced by GM & Tesla & Ford.
"The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) estimates that the concurrent need for ventilators in the United States will peak at about 17,000 on April 14, though the actual number could fall anywhere within a range of about 8,000 to 35,500. It’s estimated that we have about 170,000 ventilators in the country..."

3. Test kit shortage? Not true, its not March 4th???. Try to stay current. They are doing about 150,000 tests per day, and that will be ramping up as more equipment comes online. The new 15-minute and 5-minute tests will be game-changers when widely available, as well as the new "anti-body" tests. US Historical Data

4. Trump is having daily pressers with any questions the MSM wants to ask. If the WH has classified meetings, that is their prerogative.

5. You're welcome again, see how well the Federal Government can be run with competent managers.

Trump is reactive we needed proactive.

WTF are you smokin? We need Trump, period. Your democrap talking points aren't working. Maybe you need to focus more on Joe Biden than Trump? No one is going to vote for Sleazy Breezy Joe.

 

[Mac1958]

Based on the political makeup of this board, I'd guess the results would be around 70/30 Trump.

Wow, the board is even more Trumpy than I thought!

 

[playtime]

We went from 2 million projected deaths to 60,000.

Trump is doing fine. Pelosi is the dumb whore who went to Chinatown and told everybody to visit in a really stupid political stunt.

unfuckingbelievable; only a deplorable would think that 60K dead is a win for donny.

60k dead is a win for Donny, look at the EU for comparison, the EU has 3x the US deaths

The "experts" predicted 2,200,000 US deaths at the start of the pandemic based on global rates:

'Terrifying' New Research Warns 2.2 Million Could Die From Coronavirus in US Without Drastic Action

"Only now is the White House coming out of denial and heading straight into saying it could not have been foreseen."

www.commondreams.org

Then the US did so well that the "experts" revised their predictions downward to between 100,00 and 200,000 US deaths

100,000–200,000 COVID-19 Deaths. Where Does That Estimate Come From?

Infectious disease modelers are projecting COVID-19 death toll.

www.managedhealthcareexecutive.com

The "experts" latest predictions are for about 60,000 US deaths, so I'd say that the Trump/Pence team is doing just fine, that's a win.

Fauci Says U.S. Coronavirus Deaths May Be 'More Like 60,000'; Antibody Tests On Way

The predicted death toll has fallen, Dr. Anthony Fauci says, because of Americans' embrace of physical separation and other restrictions.

www.npr.org

ummmm.... no. most were unnecessary deaths. the vast majority could have been prevented if donny didn't ignore the warnings, waived the regs early on, signed & enforced the DPA early on, AND signed off on a NATION WIDE shelter in place directive. if he didn't finally do what was needed, the numbers would be as high as the SCIENTISTS modeled. they are still gonna rise due to the selfish dumbfuck hayseed states that refused to be inconvenienced for a few weeks & stay the fuck home.

1. Unnecessary deaths? Got a link proving that? Even the crazy "hoax" democrats aren't claiming that?!
2. Donny can waive regs, but NOT LAWS. Read the fucking LAW. I gave you the link

simply not having the PPE or ventilators or even fucking SWABS for the tests is a fail on donny's part. bigley. that's the first thing in line to saving lives. they knew this was coming & shut the experts out of meetings specifically held regarding COVID 19 held in a SCIF at the HHS.

that's another thing di-rectly attributed to deaths occurring needlessly.

I see words but no link or proof.
Words are meaningless without proof.
They're doing 150,000 tests a day. The CDC started out doing 300. That's a win. The capacity is increasing in leaps and bounds, so democrats have no room to talk after the disaster, train-wreck, embarrassment, known as the Obamacare rollout happened, when the web site didn't work. His crowning achievement?!. You can try to pick nits against Trump, but everyone sees how a government is supposed to function, especially after 8-years of BO & Biden.

whatever happened to:
"Over a million tests have been distributed," Pence said, and "before the end of this week, another 4 million tests will be distributed." ?

or donny saying “Anybody that wants a test [for the coronavirus] can get a test.”

NONE of that has even been close to happening; guess they fucking lied.

that is a FAIL on donny's part. a bigley FAIL.

anyhoo, about them thar links? i never claim a thing without credible links to back it up:

Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot
By Melissa HealyStaff Writer
April 7, 2020
12:39 PM
The United States has roughly 173,000 ventilators scattered across the country, according to the Center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins University. It may sound like a lot, but there could be 31 times as many patients who need one, experts from Harvard Medical School predict.
Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot


Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Audrey Conklin
Fox BusinessApril 7, 2020
The United States' shortage of novel coronavirus test kits is the result of rapidly increasing demand met with a weak national supply chain and disruptive federal regulations.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of the Inspector General interviewed 323 hospitals across 46 States in March and issued a report Monday that found most U.S. hospitals are experiencing testing shortages and extended wait times for test results.

A shortage of COVID-19 test kits is similarly a direct result of rapidly growing demand for COVID-19 kits and a "shortage of physical components" needed to make the tests, The New Yorker reported on March 24.

The physical components in question include virtual transport media, which are used to safely transport a specimen taken from a patient to a lab; extraction kits, which isolate viral RNA from biological samples; reagents, which are substances or compounds added to a sample to determine whether it contains COVID-19; and test swabs, according to The New Yorker.
Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources
Politics
March 11, 2020 / 4:29 PM / a month ago

Aram Roston, Marisa Taylor
7 Min Read


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion, according to four Trump administration officials.

The officials said that dozens of classified discussions about such topics as the scope of infections, quarantines and travel restrictions have been held since mid-January in a high-security meeting room at the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), a key player in the fight against the coronavirus.
Staffers without security clearances, including government experts, were excluded from the interagency meetings, which included video conference calls, the sources said.

“We had some very critical people who did not have security clearances who could not go,” one official said. “These should not be classified meetings. It was unnecessary.”
Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources

you're welcome.

1. They are doing 100,000 to 150,000 tests per day, that adds up to over 1m in a few days. Additional capacity is being added as it becomes available, such as the 15-minute test and the 5-minute test. Anyone can get a test as long as they have a doctor's order. US Historical Data

2. Ventilators are adequate. They are being moved from cool spots to hot spots, they are also being mass produced by GM & Tesla & Ford.
"The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) estimates that the concurrent need for ventilators in the United States will peak at about 17,000 on April 14, though the actual number could fall anywhere within a range of about 8,000 to 35,500. It’s estimated that we have about 170,000 ventilators in the country..."

3. Test kit shortage? Not true, its not March 4th???. Try to stay current. They are doing about 150,000 tests per day, and that will be ramping up as more equipment comes online. The new 15-minute and 5-minute tests will be game-changers when widely available, as well as the new "anti-body" tests. US Historical Data

4. Trump is having daily pressers with any questions the MSM wants to ask. If the WH has classified meetings, that is their prerogative.

5. You're welcome again, see how well the Federal Government can be run with competent managers.

Yes, but Orange Man Bad.

bigley bad when they knew this was coming & IGNORED IT.

'We have thrown 15 years of institutional learning out the window': Leaked emails show top public health experts raised alarm about the Trump administration's botched coronavirus response

80 pages of inter agency PROOF it was ignored & people died NEEDLESSLY because of the sheer incompetency of donny & his psychophants.

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...6f590d5cd41e11bea0f/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

 

[sealybobo]

We went from 2 million projected deaths to 60,000.

Trump is doing fine. Pelosi is the dumb whore who went to Chinatown and told everybody to visit in a really stupid political stunt.

unfuckingbelievable; only a deplorable would think that 60K dead is a win for donny.

60k dead is a win for Donny, look at the EU for comparison, the EU has 3x the US deaths

The "experts" predicted 2,200,000 US deaths at the start of the pandemic based on global rates:

'Terrifying' New Research Warns 2.2 Million Could Die From Coronavirus in US Without Drastic Action

"Only now is the White House coming out of denial and heading straight into saying it could not have been foreseen."

www.commondreams.org

Then the US did so well that the "experts" revised their predictions downward to between 100,00 and 200,000 US deaths

100,000–200,000 COVID-19 Deaths. Where Does That Estimate Come From?

Infectious disease modelers are projecting COVID-19 death toll.

www.managedhealthcareexecutive.com

The "experts" latest predictions are for about 60,000 US deaths, so I'd say that the Trump/Pence team is doing just fine, that's a win.

Fauci Says U.S. Coronavirus Deaths May Be 'More Like 60,000'; Antibody Tests On Way

The predicted death toll has fallen, Dr. Anthony Fauci says, because of Americans' embrace of physical separation and other restrictions.

www.npr.org

ummmm.... no. most were unnecessary deaths. the vast majority could have been prevented if donny didn't ignore the warnings, waived the regs early on, signed & enforced the DPA early on, AND signed off on a NATION WIDE shelter in place directive. if he didn't finally do what was needed, the numbers would be as high as the SCIENTISTS modeled. they are still gonna rise due to the selfish dumbfuck hayseed states that refused to be inconvenienced for a few weeks & stay the fuck home.

1. Unnecessary deaths? Got a link proving that? Even the crazy "hoax" democrats aren't claiming that?!
2. Donny can waive regs, but NOT LAWS. Read the fucking LAW. I gave you the link

simply not having the PPE or ventilators or even fucking SWABS for the tests is a fail on donny's part. bigley. that's the first thing in line to saving lives. they knew this was coming & shut the experts out of meetings specifically held regarding COVID 19 held in a SCIF at the HHS.

that's another thing di-rectly attributed to deaths occurring needlessly.

I see words but no link or proof.
Words are meaningless without proof.
They're doing 150,000 tests a day. The CDC started out doing 300. That's a win. The capacity is increasing in leaps and bounds, so democrats have no room to talk after the disaster, train-wreck, embarrassment, known as the Obamacare rollout happened, when the web site didn't work. His crowning achievement?!. You can try to pick nits against Trump, but everyone sees how a government is supposed to function, especially after 8-years of BO & Biden.

whatever happened to:
"Over a million tests have been distributed," Pence said, and "before the end of this week, another 4 million tests will be distributed." ?

or donny saying “Anybody that wants a test [for the coronavirus] can get a test.”

NONE of that has even been close to happening; guess they fucking lied.

that is a FAIL on donny's part. a bigley FAIL.

anyhoo, about them thar links? i never claim a thing without credible links to back it up:

Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot
By Melissa HealyStaff Writer
April 7, 2020
12:39 PM
The United States has roughly 173,000 ventilators scattered across the country, according to the Center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins University. It may sound like a lot, but there could be 31 times as many patients who need one, experts from Harvard Medical School predict.
Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot


Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Audrey Conklin
Fox BusinessApril 7, 2020
The United States' shortage of novel coronavirus test kits is the result of rapidly increasing demand met with a weak national supply chain and disruptive federal regulations.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of the Inspector General interviewed 323 hospitals across 46 States in March and issued a report Monday that found most U.S. hospitals are experiencing testing shortages and extended wait times for test results.

A shortage of COVID-19 test kits is similarly a direct result of rapidly growing demand for COVID-19 kits and a "shortage of physical components" needed to make the tests, The New Yorker reported on March 24.

The physical components in question include virtual transport media, which are used to safely transport a specimen taken from a patient to a lab; extraction kits, which isolate viral RNA from biological samples; reagents, which are substances or compounds added to a sample to determine whether it contains COVID-19; and test swabs, according to The New Yorker.
Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources
Politics
March 11, 2020 / 4:29 PM / a month ago

Aram Roston, Marisa Taylor
7 Min Read


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion, according to four Trump administration officials.

The officials said that dozens of classified discussions about such topics as the scope of infections, quarantines and travel restrictions have been held since mid-January in a high-security meeting room at the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), a key player in the fight against the coronavirus.
Staffers without security clearances, including government experts, were excluded from the interagency meetings, which included video conference calls, the sources said.

“We had some very critical people who did not have security clearances who could not go,” one official said. “These should not be classified meetings. It was unnecessary.”
Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources

you're welcome.

1. They are doing 100,000 to 150,000 tests per day, that adds up to over 1m in a few days. Additional capacity is being added as it becomes available, such as the 15-minute test and the 5-minute test. Anyone can get a test as long as they have a doctor's order. US Historical Data

2. Ventilators are adequate. They are being moved from cool spots to hot spots, they are also being mass produced by GM & Tesla & Ford.
"The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) estimates that the concurrent need for ventilators in the United States will peak at about 17,000 on April 14, though the actual number could fall anywhere within a range of about 8,000 to 35,500. It’s estimated that we have about 170,000 ventilators in the country..."

3. Test kit shortage? Not true, its not March 4th???. Try to stay current. They are doing about 150,000 tests per day, and that will be ramping up as more equipment comes online. The new 15-minute and 5-minute tests will be game-changers when widely available, as well as the new "anti-body" tests. US Historical Data

4. Trump is having daily pressers with any questions the MSM wants to ask. If the WH has classified meetings, that is their prerogative.

5. You're welcome again, see how well the Federal Government can be run with competent managers.

Trump is reactive we needed proactive.

WTF are you smokin? We need Trump, period. Your democrap talking points aren't working. Maybe you need to focus more on Joe Biden than Trump? No one is going to vote for Sleazy Breezy Joe.

You sure? Because in 2016 more people voted for Hillary than Trump. And that was before Trump proved to be incompetent.

Trump cut funding to the departments that deal with infectious diseases. That alone exposes him and all Republicans for not understanding the importance of government. Now we see what happens when Republicans cut important government positions.

No, those positions weren't important, until a virus came. So Trump gambled and lost. He's FIRED.

 

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We went from 2 million projected deaths to 60,000.

Trump is doing fine. Pelosi is the dumb whore who went to Chinatown and told everybody to visit in a really stupid political stunt.

unfuckingbelievable; only a deplorable would think that 60K dead is a win for donny.

60k dead is a win for Donny, look at the EU for comparison, the EU has 3x the US deaths

The "experts" predicted 2,200,000 US deaths at the start of the pandemic based on global rates:

'Terrifying' New Research Warns 2.2 Million Could Die From Coronavirus in US Without Drastic Action

"Only now is the White House coming out of denial and heading straight into saying it could not have been foreseen."

www.commondreams.org

Then the US did so well that the "experts" revised their predictions downward to between 100,00 and 200,000 US deaths

100,000–200,000 COVID-19 Deaths. Where Does That Estimate Come From?

Infectious disease modelers are projecting COVID-19 death toll.

www.managedhealthcareexecutive.com

The "experts" latest predictions are for about 60,000 US deaths, so I'd say that the Trump/Pence team is doing just fine, that's a win.

Fauci Says U.S. Coronavirus Deaths May Be 'More Like 60,000'; Antibody Tests On Way

The predicted death toll has fallen, Dr. Anthony Fauci says, because of Americans' embrace of physical separation and other restrictions.

www.npr.org

ummmm.... no. most were unnecessary deaths. the vast majority could have been prevented if donny didn't ignore the warnings, waived the regs early on, signed & enforced the DPA early on, AND signed off on a NATION WIDE shelter in place directive. if he didn't finally do what was needed, the numbers would be as high as the SCIENTISTS modeled. they are still gonna rise due to the selfish dumbfuck hayseed states that refused to be inconvenienced for a few weeks & stay the fuck home.

1. Unnecessary deaths? Got a link proving that? Even the crazy "hoax" democrats aren't claiming that?!
2. Donny can waive regs, but NOT LAWS. Read the fucking LAW. I gave you the link

simply not having the PPE or ventilators or even fucking SWABS for the tests is a fail on donny's part. bigley. that's the first thing in line to saving lives. they knew this was coming & shut the experts out of meetings specifically held regarding COVID 19 held in a SCIF at the HHS.

that's another thing di-rectly attributed to deaths occurring needlessly.

I see words but no link or proof.
Words are meaningless without proof.
They're doing 150,000 tests a day. The CDC started out doing 300. That's a win. The capacity is increasing in leaps and bounds, so democrats have no room to talk after the disaster, train-wreck, embarrassment, known as the Obamacare rollout happened, when the web site didn't work. His crowning achievement?!. You can try to pick nits against Trump, but everyone sees how a government is supposed to function, especially after 8-years of BO & Biden.

whatever happened to:
"Over a million tests have been distributed," Pence said, and "before the end of this week, another 4 million tests will be distributed." ?

or donny saying “Anybody that wants a test [for the coronavirus] can get a test.”

NONE of that has even been close to happening; guess they fucking lied.

that is a FAIL on donny's part. a bigley FAIL.

anyhoo, about them thar links? i never claim a thing without credible links to back it up:

Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot
By Melissa HealyStaff Writer
April 7, 2020
12:39 PM
The United States has roughly 173,000 ventilators scattered across the country, according to the Center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins University. It may sound like a lot, but there could be 31 times as many patients who need one, experts from Harvard Medical School predict.
Ventilators for coronavirus patients are in short supply. How scientists might pivot


Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Audrey Conklin
Fox BusinessApril 7, 2020
The United States' shortage of novel coronavirus test kits is the result of rapidly increasing demand met with a weak national supply chain and disruptive federal regulations.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of the Inspector General interviewed 323 hospitals across 46 States in March and issued a report Monday that found most U.S. hospitals are experiencing testing shortages and extended wait times for test results.

A shortage of COVID-19 test kits is similarly a direct result of rapidly growing demand for COVID-19 kits and a "shortage of physical components" needed to make the tests, The New Yorker reported on March 24.

The physical components in question include virtual transport media, which are used to safely transport a specimen taken from a patient to a lab; extraction kits, which isolate viral RNA from biological samples; reagents, which are substances or compounds added to a sample to determine whether it contains COVID-19; and test swabs, according to The New Yorker.
Why is there still a coronavirus test kit shortage in the US?

Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources
Politics
March 11, 2020 / 4:29 PM / a month ago

Aram Roston, Marisa Taylor
7 Min Read


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion, according to four Trump administration officials.

The officials said that dozens of classified discussions about such topics as the scope of infections, quarantines and travel restrictions have been held since mid-January in a high-security meeting room at the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), a key player in the fight against the coronavirus.
Staffers without security clearances, including government experts, were excluded from the interagency meetings, which included video conference calls, the sources said.

“We had some very critical people who did not have security clearances who could not go,” one official said. “These should not be classified meetings. It was unnecessary.”
Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources

you're welcome.

1. They are doing 100,000 to 150,000 tests per day, that adds up to over 1m in a few days. Additional capacity is being added as it becomes available, such as the 15-minute test and the 5-minute test. Anyone can get a test as long as they have a doctor's order. US Historical Data

2. Ventilators are adequate. They are being moved from cool spots to hot spots, they are also being mass produced by GM & Tesla & Ford.
"The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) estimates that the concurrent need for ventilators in the United States will peak at about 17,000 on April 14, though the actual number could fall anywhere within a range of about 8,000 to 35,500. It’s estimated that we have about 170,000 ventilators in the country..."

3. Test kit shortage? Not true, its not March 4th???. Try to stay current. They are doing about 150,000 tests per day, and that will be ramping up as more equipment comes online. The new 15-minute and 5-minute tests will be game-changers when widely available, as well as the new "anti-body" tests. US Historical Data

4. Trump is having daily pressers with any questions the MSM wants to ask. If the WH has classified meetings, that is their prerogative.

5. You're welcome again, see how well the Federal Government can be run with competent managers.

1)they are doing 100k tests a day - NOW. not when it most counted.... pence lied when he said millions would be tested 'by the end of the week' WHEN HE SAID IT SEVERAL WEEKS AGO donny lied when he said 'anybody who wants a test can have one' WHEN HE SAID IT SEVERAL WEEKS AGO. & now he's changed his tune & said not everybody needs a test because he knew he was caught LYING. again.

2) ventilators could have & should have been in production months ago thru the DPA, in anticipation; but donny refused to sign off on it. we don't have enough & they shouldn't hafa be shuffled around - given the vast need & scope of this disease.

3) yes - inadequate amt of test kits & lack of components is fact. where are all the testing sites supposed to be available in big box stores like walmart like they said several weeks ago? THEY LIED. my sister has the virus & the only test site in the surrounding metro area & suburbs where the population exceeds several hundred thousand, is a hospital parking garage. they are only testing from 9am - 12 noon & only testing 35 people a day. that was just last week, so noooooooooooo there are not enough tests no matter what they are telling you.

4) bullshit. not all questions are being asked, it depends on who he calls on & i've seen him covet the mic at times & not allow fauci to answer even when a Q is directed right at him..

5) & now for the truth about the ignoring, incompetency, & over all fuck ups that cause people to die unnecessarily:

'We have thrown 15 years of institutional learning out the window': Leaked emails show top public health experts raised alarm about the Trump administration's botched coronavirus response

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...6f590d5cd41e11bea0f/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

facts hurt you - i know, but knowledge is power.

 

[sealybobo]

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

Just based on this report, I choose Biden

President Trump’s trade adviser, Peter Navarro, reportedly warned his White House colleagues about the threat the novel coronavirus posed to the U.S. public in a memo in late January, when Trump was still publicly downplaying the risk.

Navarro’s strongly worded initial memo did not match up with the rhetoric Trump was using. The president was still downplaying the threat of the coronavirus outbreak well into early March.

In mid-February, Trump told governors “a lot of people think [the virus] goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in,” and as late as March 9 the president was still comparing the severity of the coronavirus to the “common flu” and signaled businesses would not be shut down.

In the Feb. 23 memo, which was addressed to the White House and attributed to Navarro but not signed by him, Navarro warns that “this is NOT a time for penny-pinching or horse trading on the Hill,”

In his second memo, Navarro estimated that a “full-blown COVID-19 pandemic” could infect as many as 100 million Americans and kill as many as 1.2 million, the Times reports.

Navarro’s second memo seemed aimed at the White House task force, according to the newspaper.

“Any member of the Task Force who wants to be cautious about appropriating funds for a crisis that could inflict trillions of dollars in economic damage and take millions of lives has come to the wrong administration,” the memo reportedly said.

The Trump administration ended up asking Congress for $2.5 billion, an amount Democrats criticized as too low, and in early March approved a $8.3 billion coronavirus package passed by Congress.

Trump adviser warned of coronavirus threat in January

President Trump’s trade adviser, Peter Navarro, reportedly warned his White House colleagues about the threat the novel coronavirus posed to the U.S. public in a memo in late January, when Tru…

thehill.com

There is a paper trail that proves this is all true.

 

[pyetro]

At present the 538 poll shows that Trump's approval and disapproval are both about 48%.

How Americans View Biden’s Response To The Coronavirus Crisis

We’re tracking how concerned Americans are about COVID-19, the economy and President Biden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Those numbers are very partisan with both parties disagreeing.

So lets look at it differently.
Since Biden originally called Trump's travel ban "xenophobic", and now supports it.
Who would you rather as president to manage the COVID-19 response, Trump or Biden?
(hint: remember the Obamacare rollout and how well that went?)

A poll in a conservative message board.
How predictable.