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Who would you trust to investigate Biden's failed withdrawl?
- Thread starter Missourian
- Start date
A real investigation would find a lot of problems given to Biden by Trump...They don't want a real investigation, which would certainly find mistakes in many areas (particularly "intelligence") and would make it more difficult to simplistically put 100% of the blame on Biden.
So any investigation, no matter who does it, will be called Deep State Hitler Swamp Commie Fake News™.
Stephen Miller's actions would be terrible in daylight... He effectively did everything he could to stall Afghan friendlies coming back... Trump Admin only allowed 610 into America in 2020 even though they knew they were leaving... Miller had just one person processing there visas...
As for US Citizens, they didn't want to leave... They were given ample opportunity to leave and many decided to stay thinking the Afghan Army would protect them. That didn't happen and then they wanted out... Biden is getting them home...
So I think while the Kabul Airport scenes look bad, this was the objective of the Trump Administration... Biden deserves some blame for not fixing Trump policy quick enough and bringing these people back earlier and then processing there visas. But lets be very clear the Trumpets would have been up in arms about that if that happened too...
I am all on for a big bad investigation which looks at all of this... Biden might not get an 'A' but Trump will get an 'F'...
Mac1958
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While I personally very much want to know the whole story, I don't know that it will matter on a national scale.A real investigation would find a lot of problems given to Biden by Trump...
Stephen Miller's actions would be terrible in daylight... He effectively did everything he could to stall Afghan friendlies coming back... Trump Admin only allowed 610 into America in 2020 even though they knew they were leaving... Miller had just one person processing there visas...
As for US Citizens, they didn't want to leave... They were given ample opportunity to leave and many decided to stay thinking the Afghan Army would protect them. That didn't happen and then they wanted out... Biden is getting them home...
So I think while the Kabul Airport scenes look bad, this was the objective of the Trump Administration... Biden deserves some blame for not fixing Trump policy quick enough and bringing these people back earlier and then processing there visas. But lets be very clear the Trumpets would have been up in arms about that if that happened too...
I am all on for a big bad investigation which looks at all of this... Biden might not get an 'A' but Trump will get an 'F'...
We can't even agree on what is reality at this point, so I don't know how any findings will really matter.
Our adversaries have to be loving this. We're splitting in two, and all they have to do now is watch.
Sandy Shanks
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FACT A: Nearly two weeks ago the Afghan army collapsed without firing a shot. The Taliban captured Kandahar and Kabul while acquiring billions of dollars of American military equipment. The current chaos surrounding the Kabul airport ensued.
FACT B: According to most media sources, our President is to blame.
To blame our President, the media leaves out a lot crucial information. Instead of reminding viewers that the current chaos was a consequence of the Afghan army's sudden surrender, they concentrate on the current chaos and present sad stories about the Afghan people who are still living in the Middle ages.
Although the dominant forces in medieval Afghanistan are pure evil -- the Taliban, Haqqani Network, ISIS, ISIS-K, al Qaeda, and others -- this is rarely mentioned, although we got our fill of ISIS-K yesterday after they murdered thirteen Americans and 170 Afghans.
Despite that environment, some media geniuses insist after 20 years, 6,294 dead American troops and contractors, and $2 trillion that we should stay in Afghanistan because of imagined terrorist fears. Because of our heightened security due to 9/11, no terrorist organization has attacked America in 20 years, and they have only done it twice in our history. A group of jihadist terrorists attacked New York’s World Trade Center on February 26, 1993.
When insisting that we stay in Afghanistan for these perceived threats, none of this information is recalled by the media.
The media is also remiss in keeping Americans updated on the successes of the Biden operation while under extremely hazardous conditions.
NPR made this report in mid-July. "During the 20-year war in Afghanistan, thousands of Afghan citizens served as interpreters, provided intelligence and assisted the U.S. and its coalition partners as drivers, security guards and in other roles.
"Roughly 18,000 Afghan nationals, along with tens of thousands of their family members, have applied for special immigrant visas to the U.S.
"Under the effort, called Operation Allies Refuge, as many as 70,000 Afghans will be flown out of Afghanistan to one or more third countries while they await visa processing."
105,000 people have been evacuated from Afghanistan since mid-Aug. Renewed evacuation efforts ramped up a day before the militant group entered the Afghan capital on Aug. 15. Since the end of July, about 110,600 have been evacuated.
Approximately 4,500 of those people are Americans. Do the math. The rest are Afghans.
Only 500 Americans who wish to leave are left.
You won't hear any of this on the six o'clock news.
FACT B: According to most media sources, our President is to blame.
To blame our President, the media leaves out a lot crucial information. Instead of reminding viewers that the current chaos was a consequence of the Afghan army's sudden surrender, they concentrate on the current chaos and present sad stories about the Afghan people who are still living in the Middle ages.
Although the dominant forces in medieval Afghanistan are pure evil -- the Taliban, Haqqani Network, ISIS, ISIS-K, al Qaeda, and others -- this is rarely mentioned, although we got our fill of ISIS-K yesterday after they murdered thirteen Americans and 170 Afghans.
Despite that environment, some media geniuses insist after 20 years, 6,294 dead American troops and contractors, and $2 trillion that we should stay in Afghanistan because of imagined terrorist fears. Because of our heightened security due to 9/11, no terrorist organization has attacked America in 20 years, and they have only done it twice in our history. A group of jihadist terrorists attacked New York’s World Trade Center on February 26, 1993.
When insisting that we stay in Afghanistan for these perceived threats, none of this information is recalled by the media.
The media is also remiss in keeping Americans updated on the successes of the Biden operation while under extremely hazardous conditions.
NPR made this report in mid-July. "During the 20-year war in Afghanistan, thousands of Afghan citizens served as interpreters, provided intelligence and assisted the U.S. and its coalition partners as drivers, security guards and in other roles.
"Roughly 18,000 Afghan nationals, along with tens of thousands of their family members, have applied for special immigrant visas to the U.S.
"Under the effort, called Operation Allies Refuge, as many as 70,000 Afghans will be flown out of Afghanistan to one or more third countries while they await visa processing."
105,000 people have been evacuated from Afghanistan since mid-Aug. Renewed evacuation efforts ramped up a day before the militant group entered the Afghan capital on Aug. 15. Since the end of July, about 110,600 have been evacuated.
Approximately 4,500 of those people are Americans. Do the math. The rest are Afghans.
Only 500 Americans who wish to leave are left.
You won't hear any of this on the six o'clock news.
How about American citizens not politically connected?Can't trust Congress. Can't trust Justice. Can't trust the Media. So who is left?
Mac-7
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Thanks to people like you who voted for man whose mind has turned to mush just because trump’s personality offends youWe're splitting in two, and all they have to do now is watch.
SassyIrishLass
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Trey Gowdy
Lakhota
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Let's first investigate Trump's failure to withdraw any Kurds. Then we can talk about Biden.
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