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Who controls the means of production in your economy based on "actual liberty and freedom," those who perform most of the labor or those who hoard most of the profit?Socialism is a failed economic and political notion, actual liberty and freedom ought to be tried next.Who’s Afraid of Socialism? | Open Media Boston
"Capitalism’s incompatibility with majority interests has been reaffirmed by the current economic crisis.
"Earlier, the most severe effects of capitalism had been offset, within the US, by the progressive reforms of the 1930s.
"But capital’s political power was less restrained in this country than it was in the other rich countries.
"Flush with military might and bolstered by a mass right-wing culture of arrogant self-righteousness, US capital launched a withering counterattack against the New Deal legacy, culminating in an almost three-decade orgy of anti-welfare legislation, imperialist aggression, privatization, and deregulation."
Unrestrained profit maximization results in concentrating an enormous amount of surplus capital which can find few safe investments.
"Free market" capitalists turn to highly speculative scams which generate financial bubbles as the real economy continues to be hollowed out and the working class is driven deeper into debt.
Socialism would turn to government for an alternative, but US government is Goldman Sachs regardless of which major party is in control.
Chances Are, You're Already a Democratic Socialist | HuffPost
LolThe parasitic life style that you and I and all other Americans enjoy today was made possible by chattel slavery; sorry if you find reality upsetting.LolHow many of the "other Africans" became millionaires from the transatlantic slave trade?LolCapitalism has the slave owner's morality.Socialism has no morality
"People across the political spectrum acknowledge that racism exists, but its origins are shrouded in mystery—deliberately so.
"Racism is presented as if it has always existed, and individuals make a personal choice to be racist.
"In reality racism was developed as a means of justifying the transatlantic slave trade, which was crucial for the birth of industrial capitalism."
Capitalism—a system born of slavery
Who sold the slaves to the plantation owners… other Africans the dumbass fucker
The Clear Connection Between Slavery And American Capitalism
"In the decades between the American Revolution and the Civil War, slavery—as a source of the cotton that fed Rhode Island’s mills, as a source of the wealth that filled New York’s banks, as a source of the markets that inspired Massachusetts manufacturers—proved indispensable to national economic development,' Beckert and Rockman write in the introduction to the book. '… Cotton offered a reason for entrepreneurs and inventors to build manufactories in such places as Lowell, Pawtucket, and Paterson, thereby connecting New England’s Industrial Revolution to the advancing plantation frontier of the Deep South. And financing cotton growing, as well as marketing and transporting the crop, was a source of great wealth for the nation’s merchants and banks.'"
Africans were selling other Africans long before the United States was formed so shut the fuck up
Slavery Made America - The Atlantic
"by 1860, there were more millionaires (slaveholders all) living in the lower Mississippi Valley than anywhere else in the United States.
"In the same year, the nearly 4 million American slaves were worth some $3.5 billion, making them the largest single financial asset in the entire U.S. economy, worth more than all manufacturing and railroads combined.
"So, of course, the war was rooted in these two expanding and competing economies—but competing over what? What eventually tore asunder America's political culture was slavery's expansion into the Western territories."
Palestinians owned land, businesses, and bank accounts that were confiscated by European Jews in 1948:Greedy Jews should stop stealing land and water that doesn't belong to them.Americans like these, Pilgrim?Who’s Afraid of Socialism? | Open Media Boston
"Capitalism’s incompatibility with majority interests has been reaffirmed by the current economic crisis.
"Earlier, the most severe effects of capitalism had been offset, within the US, by the progressive reforms of the 1930s.
"But capital’s political power was less restrained in this country than it was in the other rich countries.
"Flush with military might and bolstered by a mass right-wing culture of arrogant self-righteousness, US capital launched a withering counterattack against the New Deal legacy, culminating in an almost three-decade orgy of anti-welfare legislation, imperialist aggression, privatization, and deregulation."
Unrestrained profit maximization results in concentrating an enormous amount of surplus capital which can find few safe investments.
"Free market" capitalists turn to highly speculative scams which generate financial bubbles as the real economy continues to be hollowed out and the working class is driven deeper into debt.
Socialism would turn to government for an alternative, but US government is Goldman Sachs regardless of which major party is in control.
An overwhelming majority of Americans. GFY, Commie turd!
KKK invites North Carolina town to 'white only' cross-burning - theGrio
Bitch, my grandma stopped 3 KKK dudes from hanging her daddy with a butcher knife.
Cutcha.
Americans don't like smug Commies like you, faggot. Break bad and you'll get crushed.
What's your take on the Jews there, Mr. Tolerance?
Maybe your imaginary grandma should bring her butcher knife to Jerusalem, Piss Ant.
Palestine didn't own any land in 1946.
How many American Indians became millionaires from the transatlantic slave trade?LolThe parasitic life style that you and I and all other Americans enjoy today was made possible by chattel slavery; sorry if you find reality upsetting.LolHow many of the "other Africans" became millionaires from the transatlantic slave trade?LolCapitalism has the slave owner's morality.
"People across the political spectrum acknowledge that racism exists, but its origins are shrouded in mystery—deliberately so.
"Racism is presented as if it has always existed, and individuals make a personal choice to be racist.
"In reality racism was developed as a means of justifying the transatlantic slave trade, which was crucial for the birth of industrial capitalism."
Capitalism—a system born of slavery
Who sold the slaves to the plantation owners… other Africans the dumbass fucker
The Clear Connection Between Slavery And American Capitalism
"In the decades between the American Revolution and the Civil War, slavery—as a source of the cotton that fed Rhode Island’s mills, as a source of the wealth that filled New York’s banks, as a source of the markets that inspired Massachusetts manufacturers—proved indispensable to national economic development,' Beckert and Rockman write in the introduction to the book. '… Cotton offered a reason for entrepreneurs and inventors to build manufactories in such places as Lowell, Pawtucket, and Paterson, thereby connecting New England’s Industrial Revolution to the advancing plantation frontier of the Deep South. And financing cotton growing, as well as marketing and transporting the crop, was a source of great wealth for the nation’s merchants and banks.'"
Africans were selling other Africans long before the United States was formed so shut the fuck up
Slavery Made America - The Atlantic
"by 1860, there were more millionaires (slaveholders all) living in the lower Mississippi Valley than anywhere else in the United States.
"In the same year, the nearly 4 million American slaves were worth some $3.5 billion, making them the largest single financial asset in the entire U.S. economy, worth more than all manufacturing and railroads combined.
"So, of course, the war was rooted in these two expanding and competing economies—but competing over what? What eventually tore asunder America's political culture was slavery's expansion into the Western territories."
The original slaveowners on this continent were American Indians… My ancestors
Were you stupid enough to vote for this turd?Who controls the means of production in your economy based on "actual liberty and freedom," those who perform most of the labor or those who hoard most of the profit?Socialism is a failed economic and political notion, actual liberty and freedom ought to be tried next.Who’s Afraid of Socialism? | Open Media Boston
"Capitalism’s incompatibility with majority interests has been reaffirmed by the current economic crisis.
"Earlier, the most severe effects of capitalism had been offset, within the US, by the progressive reforms of the 1930s.
"But capital’s political power was less restrained in this country than it was in the other rich countries.
"Flush with military might and bolstered by a mass right-wing culture of arrogant self-righteousness, US capital launched a withering counterattack against the New Deal legacy, culminating in an almost three-decade orgy of anti-welfare legislation, imperialist aggression, privatization, and deregulation."
Unrestrained profit maximization results in concentrating an enormous amount of surplus capital which can find few safe investments.
"Free market" capitalists turn to highly speculative scams which generate financial bubbles as the real economy continues to be hollowed out and the working class is driven deeper into debt.
Socialism would turn to government for an alternative, but US government is Goldman Sachs regardless of which major party is in control.
Chances Are, You're Already a Democratic Socialist | HuffPost
When people start talking talking "means of production" and "excess labor value", it means they produce nothing and never labor.
Oh yeah, and they're fucking Communist turds, too.
BTW, crony capitalism is a bs phrase meant to obscure the true nature of capitalism.
If that helps you to understand, then yeah.BTW, crony capitalism is a bs phrase meant to obscure the true nature of capitalism.
OIC, kinda like "democratic socialism", eh?
Bill and Hill used triangulation and centrism to hollow-out the core of the Democratic Party in much the same way their embrace of neoliberal economics excavated the blue-collar middle class.Yeah, I'm including them. They represent what is described as the "left" in America. Bill Clinton is the one who dragged the country further to the right with his Third Way - Wikipedia philosophy. But let's face it, they represent the ruling class and institute ruling class ideas. Much of the blame has to be leveled at the sheep that follow in the footsteps of the shepherds.I believe you're correct when you point out how capitalism has deserted its homelands, but, unless you're including Clinton and Obama as part of the American left, the blame lies mainly with Wall Street Democrats and crony-capitalist Republicans.American capitalism has gone global and you are not going to reign it in, or force it to pay for the well being of our society. Capitalism doesn't care about our well being. It will just seek out another host, which is why it went global in the first place. With the help of the useless American left, I might add.
Wall Street First | Michael Hudson
"Trump is Obama’s Legacy. Will this Break up the Democratic Party?
"Nobody yet can (1/2017) tell whether Donald Trump is an agent of change with a specific policy in mind, or merely a catalyst heralding an as yet undetermined turning point.
"His first month in the White House saw him melting into the Republican mélange of corporate lobbyists. Having promised to create jobs, his 'America First' policy looks more like 'Wall Street First.'"
BTW, crony capitalism is a bs phrase meant to obscure the true nature of capitalism. It is a self serving ideology and always has been.
We would use labor credits as a medium of exchange in a socialist economy first before we would transition into a moneyless communist society.I have to agree with you that any advanced economy that could function without money is hard to imagine, but there are many things I can't imagine that will possibly become reality one day.And advanced industrial economy without money is as unthinkable is an honest politician.Socialism "fails" because capitalists control world reserve currencies, the IMF and World Bank, and the most powerful military in history.Why would anyone be afraid of something that has failed everytime it has been used?
Andrew Neil on Twitter
Democratic socialism has succeeded in many more places than it has failed
Read more and drink less, Craker:
"'Cracker,' the old standby of Anglo insults was first noted in the mid 18th century, making it older than the United States itself. It was used to refer to poor whites, particularly those inhabiting the frontier regions of Maryland, Virginia and Georgia.
"It is suspected that it was a shortened version of 'whip-cracker,' since the manual labor they did involved driving livestock with a whip (not to mention the other brutal arenas where those skills were employed.)
"Over the course of time it came to represent a person of lower caste or criminal disposition, (in some instances, was used in reference to bandits and other lawless folk.)"
The Secret History Of The Word 'Cracker'
Wrong! You dumbass motherfucker that has no clue. There were black runaway slave crackers, boy.
You don't know shit, and it definitely does show, sorry.
PS: I ain't from any of those 3 states.
You better dial your century-o-meter back a notch.
People came here to get away from GA slavemasters. True story.
What was your opinion of Plessy v Ferguson during your days of abusing mules?I'm pretty sure no amount of evidence will ever convince you to abandon the "Chosen People."Greedy Jews should stop stealing land and water that doesn't belong to them.
Maybe your imaginary grandma should bring her butcher knife to Jerusalem, Piss Ant.
You fucking liar.
There has NEVER been a country called Palestine.
You really are a piece of shit, even for a Nazi.
"The Iron Wall"
"Emotionally, my attitude to the Arabs is the same as to all other nations – polite indifference. Politically, my attitude is determined by two principles.
"First of all, I consider it utterly impossible to eject the Arabs from Palestine.
"There will always be two nations in Palestine – which is good enough for me, provided the Jews become the majority.
Palestine existed for centuries before European Jews began stealing land and water there, and it will be there centuries after Israel vanishes from the page of time.
George, you know damn well those Jordanian-Syrian-Egyptian mongrels who call themselves "Palestinians" stole that land. It's that Arab blood.
Are we any closer to
than the last time we discussed this matter?
I'm not just a Zionut, Georgie. I'm a Zionist Cracker. I was born in Maryland we used mules.You don't drive mules with a whip. We used a 2X4.
Using labor credits as a medium of exchange seems similar in some ways to the notion debt and credit appeared historically before money?We would use labor credits as a medium of exchange in a socialist economy first before we would transition into a moneyless communist society.I have to agree with you that any advanced economy that could function without money is hard to imagine, but there are many things I can't imagine that will possibly become reality one day.And advanced industrial economy without money is as unthinkable is an honest politician.Socialism "fails" because capitalists control world reserve currencies, the IMF and World Bank, and the most powerful military in history.Why would anyone be afraid of something that has failed everytime it has been used?
Andrew Neil on Twitter
Democratic socialism has succeeded in many more places than it has failed
Wall Street first, Cracker.Some critics of capitalism think of socialism as its shadow; although, I'm not sure how that relates to the notion that US politics is the shadow cast on society by big business:I think Japan has faire capitalism with a good safety net and is very democratic. Sir everywhere outside the GO garbage propaganda bin, yes it is. Socialist no longer means communist and the rest of the world, super duper cold war dinosaur GOP dingbat.It thinks it is, but you Republican Foxbots know better than everyone LOL...
Japan thinks it is Socialist?
You get dumber as the dementia progresses..
Socialist International - Wikipedia
Mkay - so if socialism is just capitalism only spelled different, why do we need two words? Why does anything need to change?
What is Socialism? | International Socialist Review
"IN A matter of months, the global financial crisis has dramatically reshaped the economic and political landscape around the world.
"The high priests of global capitalism have scrapped decades of neoliberal orthodoxy, replacing their denunciations of government spending as harmful interference in the free market with calls for trillions in bailout bills and stimulus packages.
"'The goal is to get the engine of capitalism going as productively as possible,' Nancy Koehn, a historian at the Harvard Business School, told the New York Times. 'Ideology is a luxury good in times of crisis.'"
Still pushing the Communist mantra, huh? Fuck You!
Excess labor value my ass, motherfucker!
Get a job!
Were you stupid enough to vote for this turd?Who controls the means of production in your economy based on "actual liberty and freedom," those who perform most of the labor or those who hoard most of the profit?Socialism is a failed economic and political notion, actual liberty and freedom ought to be tried next.Who’s Afraid of Socialism? | Open Media Boston
"Capitalism’s incompatibility with majority interests has been reaffirmed by the current economic crisis.
"Earlier, the most severe effects of capitalism had been offset, within the US, by the progressive reforms of the 1930s.
"But capital’s political power was less restrained in this country than it was in the other rich countries.
"Flush with military might and bolstered by a mass right-wing culture of arrogant self-righteousness, US capital launched a withering counterattack against the New Deal legacy, culminating in an almost three-decade orgy of anti-welfare legislation, imperialist aggression, privatization, and deregulation."
Unrestrained profit maximization results in concentrating an enormous amount of surplus capital which can find few safe investments.
"Free market" capitalists turn to highly speculative scams which generate financial bubbles as the real economy continues to be hollowed out and the working class is driven deeper into debt.
Socialism would turn to government for an alternative, but US government is Goldman Sachs regardless of which major party is in control.
Chances Are, You're Already a Democratic Socialist | HuffPost
When people start talking talking "means of production" and "excess labor value", it means they produce nothing and never labor.
Oh yeah, and they're fucking Communist turds, too.
Yes, socialism would eliminate the existence of private fortunes. And there would be no one to be indebted to. Capital would be no more.Using labor credits as a medium of exchange seems similar in some ways to the notion debt and credit appeared historically before money?We would use labor credits as a medium of exchange in a socialist economy first before we would transition into a moneyless communist society.I have to agree with you that any advanced economy that could function without money is hard to imagine, but there are many things I can't imagine that will possibly become reality one day.And advanced industrial economy without money is as unthinkable is an honest politician.Socialism "fails" because capitalists control world reserve currencies, the IMF and World Bank, and the most powerful military in history.Why would anyone be afraid of something that has failed everytime it has been used?
Andrew Neil on Twitter
Democratic socialism has succeeded in many more places than it has failed
Debt: The First 5000 Years - Wikipedia
"Debt: The First 5,000 Years is a book by anthropologist David Graeber published in 2011...."
"The author claims that debt and credit historically appeared before money, which itself appeared before barter. This is the opposite of the narrative given in standard economics texts dating back to Adam Smith.
"To support this, he cites numerous historical, ethnographic and archaeological studies. He also claims that the standard economics texts cite no evidence for suggesting that barter came before money, credit and debt, and he has seen no credible reports suggesting such.
"The primary theme of the book is that excessive popular indebtedness has sometimes led to unrest, insurrection, and revolt.
"He argues that credit systems originally developed as means of account long before the advent of coinage, which appeared around 600 BC.
"Credit can still be seen operating in non-monetary economies.
"Barter, on the other hand, seems primarily to have been used for limited exchanges between different societies that had infrequent contact and often were in a context of ritualized warfare."
I'm assuming the transition into a moneyless communist society would eliminate the existence of private fortunes and ritualized warfare?
Wall Street first, Cracker.Some critics of capitalism think of socialism as its shadow; although, I'm not sure how that relates to the notion that US politics is the shadow cast on society by big business:I think Japan has faire capitalism with a good safety net and is very democratic. Sir everywhere outside the GO garbage propaganda bin, yes it is. Socialist no longer means communist and the rest of the world, super duper cold war dinosaur GOP dingbat.Japan thinks it is Socialist?
You get dumber as the dementia progresses..
Socialist International - Wikipedia
Mkay - so if socialism is just capitalism only spelled different, why do we need two words? Why does anything need to change?
What is Socialism? | International Socialist Review
"IN A matter of months, the global financial crisis has dramatically reshaped the economic and political landscape around the world.
"The high priests of global capitalism have scrapped decades of neoliberal orthodoxy, replacing their denunciations of government spending as harmful interference in the free market with calls for trillions in bailout bills and stimulus packages.
"'The goal is to get the engine of capitalism going as productively as possible,' Nancy Koehn, a historian at the Harvard Business School, told the New York Times. 'Ideology is a luxury good in times of crisis.'"
Still pushing the Communist mantra, huh? Fuck You!
Excess labor value my ass, motherfucker!
Get a job!
Wall Street First | Michael Hudson
"One of the first reactions to Trump’s election victory was for stocks of the most crooked financial institutions to soar, hoping for a deregulatory scythe taken to the public sector.
"Navient, the Department of Education’s knee-breaker on student loan collections accused by the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) of massive fraud and overcharging, rose from $13 to $18 after it seemed likely that the incoming Republicans would disable the CFPB and shine a green light for financial fraud.
Foreclosure king Stephen Mnuchin of IndyMac/OneWest (and formerly of Goldman Sachs for 17 years; later a George Soros partner) is now Treasury Secretary – and Trump pledged to abolish the CFPB, on the specious logic that letting fraudsters manage pension savings and other investments will give consumers and savers 'broader choice,' e.g., for the financial equivalent of junk food."
Palestinians owned land, businesses, and bank accounts that were confiscated by European Jews in 1948:Greedy Jews should stop stealing land and water that doesn't belong to them.Americans like these, Pilgrim?An overwhelming majority of Americans. GFY, Commie turd!
KKK invites North Carolina town to 'white only' cross-burning - theGrio
Bitch, my grandma stopped 3 KKK dudes from hanging her daddy with a butcher knife.
Cutcha.
Americans don't like smug Commies like you, faggot. Break bad and you'll get crushed.
What's your take on the Jews there, Mr. Tolerance?
Maybe your imaginary grandma should bring her butcher knife to Jerusalem, Piss Ant.
Palestine didn't own any land in 1946.
Live From Occupied Palestine: Plan Dalet & Nakba By The Numbers
The Impact of the 1948 Desaster: The Ways that the Nakba has Influenced Palestinian History | Heinrich Böll Foundation
"The Material Impacts of 1948
The 1948 Arab-Israeli war, which actually began in the final days of November 1947 and technically lasted until the last armistice agreement was signed in July 1949, devastated the Arab sector of Palestine. Socio-economic structures, buildings and land, and demography all were irrevocably altered...."
"Palestinian spatial reality was drastically changed by the war and the refugee exodus. The refugees left behind somewhere between 360 and 429 villages, which Israeli authorities later destroyed.
"Only about 81 Palestinian villages emerged intact within Israel.
"Towns in Israel that formerly contained mixed Palestinian and Jewish populations, such as Jaffa, Haifa, and Tiberias, became largely Jewish towns with small Palestinian minorities after 1948.
"Only one Palestinian town in Israel, Nazareth, retained its Palestinian population and character.
"The Arab character of the West Bank and Gaza remained intact, however. Beyond the destruction of their villages, the refugees lost an immense amount of land in Israel.
"A study conducted from 1953-62 by the United Nations Conciliation Commission for Palestine (UNCCP) identified 6,057,032 dunums of individually-owned land (one dunum = 1,000 m.sq.) abandoned by refugees – a huge area, especially considering that before the war, Jews had owned only 1,734,000 dunums in all of Palestine, 6.59 percent of the total surface area."
Who’s Afraid of Socialism? | Open Media Boston
"Capitalism’s incompatibility with majority interests has been reaffirmed by the current economic crisis.
"Earlier, the most severe effects of capitalism had been offset, within the US, by the progressive reforms of the 1930s.
"But capital’s political power was less restrained in this country than it was in the other rich countries.
"Flush with military might and bolstered by a mass right-wing culture of arrogant self-righteousness, US capital launched a withering counterattack against the New Deal legacy, culminating in an almost three-decade orgy of anti-welfare legislation, imperialist aggression, privatization, and deregulation."
Unrestrained profit maximization results in concentrating an enormous amount of surplus capital which can find few safe investments.
"Free market" capitalists turn to highly speculative scams which generate financial bubbles as the real economy continues to be hollowed out and the working class is driven deeper into debt.
Socialism would turn to government for an alternative, but US government is Goldman Sachs regardless of which major party is in control.
Yes, socialism would eliminate the existence of private fortunes. And there would be no one to be indebted to. Capital would be no more.Using labor credits as a medium of exchange seems similar in some ways to the notion debt and credit appeared historically before money?We would use labor credits as a medium of exchange in a socialist economy first before we would transition into a moneyless communist society.I have to agree with you that any advanced economy that could function without money is hard to imagine, but there are many things I can't imagine that will possibly become reality one day.And advanced industrial economy without money is as unthinkable is an honest politician.Socialism "fails" because capitalists control world reserve currencies, the IMF and World Bank, and the most powerful military in history.
Andrew Neil on Twitter
Democratic socialism has succeeded in many more places than it has failed
Debt: The First 5000 Years - Wikipedia
"Debt: The First 5,000 Years is a book by anthropologist David Graeber published in 2011...."
"The author claims that debt and credit historically appeared before money, which itself appeared before barter. This is the opposite of the narrative given in standard economics texts dating back to Adam Smith.
"To support this, he cites numerous historical, ethnographic and archaeological studies. He also claims that the standard economics texts cite no evidence for suggesting that barter came before money, credit and debt, and he has seen no credible reports suggesting such.
"The primary theme of the book is that excessive popular indebtedness has sometimes led to unrest, insurrection, and revolt.
"He argues that credit systems originally developed as means of account long before the advent of coinage, which appeared around 600 BC.
"Credit can still be seen operating in non-monetary economies.
"Barter, on the other hand, seems primarily to have been used for limited exchanges between different societies that had infrequent contact and often were in a context of ritualized warfare."
I'm assuming the transition into a moneyless communist society would eliminate the existence of private fortunes and ritualized warfare?
Do you have any opinions of your own? Seriously, ninety percent of your posts are just c-n-p and links to barely-related articles. I dunno about anyone else here, but I never bother reading them.Some critics of capitalism think of socialism as its shadow; although, I'm not sure how that relates to the notion that US politics is the shadow cast on society by big business:
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