Who's illegitimate now Mr Birtherism?

[kaz]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

It was hilarious though how Obama accused himself of being born in Kenya to his publisher. ?

It is hilarious that Kaz can't keep kazzing.

Despite Trump's Birther lies- Barack Obama was of course legitimate, and of course there is no evidence that President Obama ever said he was born in Kenya to anyone.

Kaz is just kazzing again- but that is what kaz does.

sure obummer did, put it in a book as well. but why look at facts when you can kiss an ass.

You do realize there is already voter remorse from Trump voters ...Trump is facing an up hill battle.

You should have run a better candidate, snowflake. Tissue?

 

[kaz]

Can we all agree the birther stuff is fake news?

Trump being a user of fake news is now getting his fake news cumuppence .

Just ask ted cruzs assassin dad and call girl wife .

Why do you suppose Obama started it all accusing himself of being born in Kenya? r

Why do you suppose kaz keeps making this lie?

He has been lying about this for years.

"Why do you think that Donald Trump had a three way with Putin?"

That is as truthful as kaz's posts.

ovember ninth to discover the worlds greatest democracy is being governed by a single party, and leadby a lawless authoritarian. All the checks and balances the framers of our constitution put in place to prevent this nightmare have been lowered by the people.
We, the freedom loving Americans must stand up to this tyranny while we still can. Time is short very, very short.
~Kevin McDermott ~

we just did that on November 9th and we beat the single party trying to take our country. Thank you the Donald!!!!!! All checks and balance will be back in order in the first 100 days. Finally.

Trump is Con Man Fascist. His biggest hurdle will be for him and the GOP Congress learning how to GOVERN ALL THE PEOPLE. Not all Americans agree with the conservative ideology. Good Luck you 20th Century Conservatives are going need it.

You're a lunatic.

And Hillary is a corrupt, lying criminal. You should have thought nominating that through.

You're having a tough day, huh? Poor guy.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.
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[kaz]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

It was hilarious though how Obama accused himself of being born in Kenya to his publisher. ?

It is hilarious that Kaz can't keep kazzing.

Despite Trump's Birther lies- Barack Obama was of course legitimate, and of course there is no evidence that President Obama ever said he was born in Kenya to anyone.

Kaz is just kazzing again- but that is what kaz does.

sure obummer did, put it in a book as well. but why look at facts .

Clearly you don't look at facts- you just swallow Birther jism.

Barack Obama has never said he was born anywhere but the United States....oh wait- he also confessed he was born on the planet Krypton.....

except for the times he did say it.

Yep, like here:

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

No one is illegitimate, both Obama and Trump won the electoral college. It was hilarious though how Obama accused himself of being born in Kenya to his publisher. He was the original birther. What a dumb ass.

BTW, he was legit even if he was, his mother was American, he's a natural born American.

 

[FJO]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

No one is illegitimate, both Obama and Trump won the electoral college. It was hilarious though how Obama accused himself of being born in Kenya to his publisher. He was the original birther. What a dumb ass.

BTW, he was legit even if he was, his mother was American, he's a natural born American. But what an idiot, who gets their own country of birth wrong?

Using that logic:

American mother = American citizen, eligible for the presidency.

White mother = white child, White man, white president.

 

[Timmy]

It was hilarious though how Obama accused himself of being born in Kenya to his publisher. ?

It is hilarious that Kaz can't keep kazzing.

Despite Trump's Birther lies- Barack Obama was of course legitimate, and of course there is no evidence that President Obama ever said he was born in Kenya to anyone.

Kaz is just kazzing again- but that is what kaz does.

sure obummer did, put it in a book as well. but why look at facts .

Clearly you don't look at facts- you just swallow Birther jism.

Barack Obama has never said he was born anywhere but the United States....oh wait- he also confessed he was born on the planet Krypton.....

except for the times he did say it.

Yep, like here:

Obama didn't write that . Plus it's been proven over and over he was born in the us . Still the righties go with the fake news .

 

[Dragonlady]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

What suspicion? Trump won 304 electoral votes according to how the Constitution says the process should occur. Nothing suspicious about that?

TRUMP is in deep DooDoo
Nobody who’s reasonable questions Trump’s eligibility for the presidency, but questions surrounding his entitlement to keep the job are widespread, and not just on the left-wing fringe. Birtherism may have been Trump’s accidental springboard to the presidency, but the next four years are set to express themselves as a continuous fight over the legitimacy of his presidency in ways that will make birtherism seem like a footnote.

The fact that Trump’s weak lock on the presidency isn’t more widely discussed is attributable almost entirely to Republicans in Congress who, for now and for the foreseeable future, have resolved to foreclose inquiries into Trump’s conduct that may yield impeachable offenses.

Democrats can’t force investigations, and they can’t issue subpoenas, so they can’t isolate the source of all the smoke. But it’s everywhere.

Consider the following:

• It is very likely that the FBI is investigating links between Trump’s campaign aides and Russian actors who allegedly conducted a sabotage campaign against the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton, and into whether Russian officials have the capacity to blackmail Trump.

• His designated CIA director, Mike Pompeo, not only vouchsafed the intelligence community’s conclusion that Russia embarked on its disruption campaign with the goal of helping Trump, but promised the senators considering his nomination “to pursue foreign intelligence with vigor no matter where the facts lead.”

• Trump has forced the director of the Office of Government Ethics, Walter Shaub, Jr., to take the unprecedented step of upbraiding the president-elect for freezing out ethics officers, and for making financial decisions that leave him highly conflicted between his business and the public interest. Shaub calledTrump’s decision to hand executive control over his business to his sons “wholly inadequate” and urged him to fully divest from the Trump organization.

• Ethics experts, and others on the left and right, have observed that Trump is very likely to become in violation of the emoluments clause of the Constitutionalmost immediately after taking the oath of office. Trump will set off a silent constitutional crisis in hour zero, leaving everyone wondering when it will become impossible to ignore.

304 > 227. Your bitch lost.

Your candidate is compromised in ways that cannot be undone. Republicans will throw him under the bus at the first opportunity, because they never wanted him in the first place. The clock is ticking on the Trump Presidency, before it's even begun.

He didn't win the popular vote, and he's Putin's bitch. Trump has never said one critical thing about Putin. Nothing but praise for the murdering ex-head of the KGB. Ever wonder why that is?

You do know that the KGB is famous for "honey pot" extortion. And Trump has certainly taken on Putin's "deny, deflect, and attack" method of dealing with critics. And his false narritives.

Republicans have the White House, the Senate and the House. They don't need Trump. Pence will do just fine.

Tick tock Donnie.

 

[kaz]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

No one is illegitimate, both Obama and Trump won the electoral college. It was hilarious though how Obama accused himself of being born in Kenya to his publisher. He was the original birther. What a dumb ass.

BTW, he was legit even if he was, his mother was American, he's a natural born American. But what an idiot, who gets their own country of birth wrong?

Using that logic:

American mother = American citizen, eligible for the presidency.

White mother = white child, White man, white president.

False equivalency = butt stupid

 

[kaz]

It is hilarious that Kaz can't keep kazzing.

Despite Trump's Birther lies- Barack Obama was of course legitimate, and of course there is no evidence that President Obama ever said he was born in Kenya to anyone.

Kaz is just kazzing again- but that is what kaz does.

sure obummer did, put it in a book as well. but why look at facts .

Clearly you don't look at facts- you just swallow Birther jism.

Barack Obama has never said he was born anywhere but the United States....oh wait- he also confessed he was born on the planet Krypton.....

except for the times he did say it.

Yep, like here:

Obama didn't write that . Plus it's been proven over and over he was born in the us . Still the righties go with the fake news .

No shit Dick Tracey. Which is why I said he LIED. If he was born in Kenya, he wouldn't have lied, stupid fudge packer. You really can't follow a discussion, can you, wheelchair boy? But then you are, Timmy!

And I also keep saying even if he was born in Kenya he's natural born American, his mother was American. You've been obviously reading this thread and know that. Cut the crap, dumb ass and address what I said

 

[Wyatt earp]

What suspicion? Trump won 304 electoral votes according to how the Constitution says the process should occur. Nothing suspicious about that?

Conflicts of interest. Russian connections. These are the salient issues concerning Trump's legitimacy. Had he disclosed his tax returns, had he had a more responsible response to the Russian hacking story, he might not be under this cloud of suspicion. Trump did not win a majority of the vote. He cannot effectively govern with just the support of his base. He will need the support of the whole nation.

Has the IRS charged him with anything? Has the IRS even suggested a problem with his taxes?

No?

Shut up then!

His tax returns will reveal his foreign connections. Presidents have released their taxes since Roosevelt. What is Trump hiding?

To make such a claim means you would have already had to have seen them. Is that the case? Since it's not, so much for your claim.

Trump must deal with his birtherisms over the next 4 years. Obama did it for 8 years! Why can't Trump do 4 years Trump deal with the same????

Why it's not the same thing fruit loop, it is a requirement to be born in the United States.. It's not a requirement to show tax forms
.

 

[jc456]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

What suspicion? Trump won 304 electoral votes according to how the Constitution says the process should occur. Nothing suspicious about that?

TRUMP is in deep DooDoo
Nobody who’s reasonable questions Trump’s eligibility for the presidency, but questions surrounding his entitlement to keep the job are widespread, and not just on the left-wing fringe. Birtherism may have been Trump’s accidental springboard to the presidency, but the next four years are set to express themselves as a continuous fight over the legitimacy of his presidency in ways that will make birtherism seem like a footnote.

The fact that Trump’s weak lock on the presidency isn’t more widely discussed is attributable almost entirely to Republicans in Congress who, for now and for the foreseeable future, have resolved to foreclose inquiries into Trump’s conduct that may yield impeachable offenses.

Democrats can’t force investigations, and they can’t issue subpoenas, so they can’t isolate the source of all the smoke. But it’s everywhere.

Consider the following:

• It is very likely that the FBI is investigating links between Trump’s campaign aides and Russian actors who allegedly conducted a sabotage campaign against the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton, and into whether Russian officials have the capacity to blackmail Trump.

• His designated CIA director, Mike Pompeo, not only vouchsafed the intelligence community’s conclusion that Russia embarked on its disruption campaign with the goal of helping Trump, but promised the senators considering his nomination “to pursue foreign intelligence with vigor no matter where the facts lead.”

• Trump has forced the director of the Office of Government Ethics, Walter Shaub, Jr., to take the unprecedented step of upbraiding the president-elect for freezing out ethics officers, and for making financial decisions that leave him highly conflicted between his business and the public interest. Shaub calledTrump’s decision to hand executive control over his business to his sons “wholly inadequate” and urged him to fully divest from the Trump organization.

• Ethics experts, and others on the left and right, have observed that Trump is very likely to become in violation of the emoluments clause of the Constitutionalmost immediately after taking the oath of office. Trump will set off a silent constitutional crisis in hour zero, leaving everyone wondering when it will become impossible to ignore.

304 > 227. Your bitch lost.

Your candidate is compromised in ways that cannot be undone. Republicans will throw him under the bus at the first opportunity, because they never wanted him in the first place. The clock is ticking on the Trump Presidency, before it's even begun.

He didn't win the popular vote, and he's Putin's bitch. Trump has never said one critical thing about Putin. Nothing but praise for the murdering ex-head of the KGB. Ever wonder why that is?

You do know that the KGB is famous for "honey pot" extortion. And Trump has certainly taken on Putin's "deny, deflect, and attack" method of dealing with critics. And his false narritives.

Republicans have the White House, the Senate and the House. They don't need Trump. Pence will do just fine.

Tick tock Donnie.

when someone doesn't do their job we call them out. you all call out your failing politicians?

obummer was a failure and you will sit in here and tell us how great he was. yeah that's sad you have no integrity in your bones.

You all can't even admit obummercare a failure when Bill Clinton said it was.

 

[Timmy]

sure obummer did, put it in a book as well. but why look at facts .

Clearly you don't look at facts- you just swallow Birther jism.

Barack Obama has never said he was born anywhere but the United States....oh wait- he also confessed he was born on the planet Krypton.....

except for the times he did say it.

Yep, like here:

Obama didn't write that . Plus it's been proven over and over he was born in the us . Still the righties go with the fake news .

No shit Dick Tracey. Which is why I said he LIED. If he was born in Kenya, he wouldn't have lied, stupid fudge packer. You really can't follow a discussion, can you, wheelchair boy? But then you are, Timmy!

And I also keep saying even if he was born in Kenya he's natural born American, his mother was American. You've been obviously reading this thread and know that. Cut the crap, dumb ass and address what I said

So every time someone writes something about obama it's true ?

Guess that makes the Trump pee party true also!

 

[kaz]

Clearly you don't look at facts- you just swallow Birther jism.

Barack Obama has never said he was born anywhere but the United States....oh wait- he also confessed he was born on the planet Krypton.....

except for the times he did say it.

Yep, like here:

Obama didn't write that . Plus it's been proven over and over he was born in the us . Still the righties go with the fake news .

No shit Dick Tracey. Which is why I said he LIED. If he was born in Kenya, he wouldn't have lied, stupid fudge packer. You really can't follow a discussion, can you, wheelchair boy? But then you are, Timmy!

And I also keep saying even if he was born in Kenya he's natural born American, his mother was American. You've been obviously reading this thread and know that. Cut the crap, dumb ass and address what I said

So every time someone writes something about obama it's true ?

Guess that makes the Trump pee party true also!

It wasn't "someone" sparky, it was his book, his publisher

 

[Timmy]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

What suspicion? Trump won 304 electoral votes according to how the Constitution says the process should occur. Nothing suspicious about that?

TRUMP is in deep DooDoo
Nobody who’s reasonable questions Trump’s eligibility for the presidency, but questions surrounding his entitlement to keep the job are widespread, and not just on the left-wing fringe. Birtherism may have been Trump’s accidental springboard to the presidency, but the next four years are set to express themselves as a continuous fight over the legitimacy of his presidency in ways that will make birtherism seem like a footnote.

The fact that Trump’s weak lock on the presidency isn’t more widely discussed is attributable almost entirely to Republicans in Congress who, for now and for the foreseeable future, have resolved to foreclose inquiries into Trump’s conduct that may yield impeachable offenses.

Democrats can’t force investigations, and they can’t issue subpoenas, so they can’t isolate the source of all the smoke. But it’s everywhere.

Consider the following:

• It is very likely that the FBI is investigating links between Trump’s campaign aides and Russian actors who allegedly conducted a sabotage campaign against the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton, and into whether Russian officials have the capacity to blackmail Trump.

• His designated CIA director, Mike Pompeo, not only vouchsafed the intelligence community’s conclusion that Russia embarked on its disruption campaign with the goal of helping Trump, but promised the senators considering his nomination “to pursue foreign intelligence with vigor no matter where the facts lead.”

• Trump has forced the director of the Office of Government Ethics, Walter Shaub, Jr., to take the unprecedented step of upbraiding the president-elect for freezing out ethics officers, and for making financial decisions that leave him highly conflicted between his business and the public interest. Shaub calledTrump’s decision to hand executive control over his business to his sons “wholly inadequate” and urged him to fully divest from the Trump organization.

• Ethics experts, and others on the left and right, have observed that Trump is very likely to become in violation of the emoluments clause of the Constitutionalmost immediately after taking the oath of office. Trump will set off a silent constitutional crisis in hour zero, leaving everyone wondering when it will become impossible to ignore.

304 > 227. Your bitch lost.

Your candidate is compromised in ways that cannot be undone. Republicans will throw him under the bus at the first opportunity, because they never wanted him in the first place. The clock is ticking on the Trump Presidency, before it's even begun.

He didn't win the popular vote, and he's Putin's bitch. Trump has never said one critical thing about Putin. Nothing but praise for the murdering ex-head of the KGB. Ever wonder why that is?

You do know that the KGB is famous for "honey pot" extortion. And Trump has certainly taken on Putin's "deny, deflect, and attack" method of dealing with critics. And his false narritives.

Republicans have the White House, the Senate and the House. They don't need Trump. Pence will do just fine.

Tick tock Donnie.

when someone doesn't do their job we call them out. you all call out your failing politicians?

obummer was a failure and you will sit in here and tell us how great he was. yeah that's sad you have no integrity in your bones.

You all can't even admit obummercare a failure when Bill Clinton said it was.

Obama was a success . Just use regular objective criteria that we have for all presidents.

Here's what conservatives do . They create new/obscure statistics that are specifically designed to slander obama .

For example "people not in the workforce ". A stat never really used before . And they also do not adjust it for population growth in order to make it look more damning . They would have you believe 1/3 of America is unemployed . Rediculous.

 

[Syriusly]

except for the times he did say it.

Yep, like here:

Obama didn't write that . Plus it's been proven over and over he was born in the us . Still the righties go with the fake news .

No shit Dick Tracey. Which is why I said he LIED. If he was born in Kenya, he wouldn't have lied, stupid fudge packer. You really can't follow a discussion, can you, wheelchair boy? But then you are, Timmy!

And I also keep saying even if he was born in Kenya he's natural born American, his mother was American. You've been obviously reading this thread and know that. Cut the crap, dumb ass and address what I said

So every time someone writes something about obama it's true ?

Guess that makes the Trump pee party true also!

It wasn't "someone" sparky, it was his book, his publisher

You mean his publisher who specifically said that Barack Obama never told them he was born in Kenya?

kaz lies easier than kaz breathes.

He knows that the only evidence we have shows that Barack Obama never said he was born in Kenya.
But kaz prefers to lie about President Obama. Because it is easier for him than breathing.

 

[kaz]

What suspicion? Trump won 304 electoral votes according to how the Constitution says the process should occur. Nothing suspicious about that?

TRUMP is in deep DooDoo
Nobody who’s reasonable questions Trump’s eligibility for the presidency, but questions surrounding his entitlement to keep the job are widespread, and not just on the left-wing fringe. Birtherism may have been Trump’s accidental springboard to the presidency, but the next four years are set to express themselves as a continuous fight over the legitimacy of his presidency in ways that will make birtherism seem like a footnote.

The fact that Trump’s weak lock on the presidency isn’t more widely discussed is attributable almost entirely to Republicans in Congress who, for now and for the foreseeable future, have resolved to foreclose inquiries into Trump’s conduct that may yield impeachable offenses.

Democrats can’t force investigations, and they can’t issue subpoenas, so they can’t isolate the source of all the smoke. But it’s everywhere.

Consider the following:

• It is very likely that the FBI is investigating links between Trump’s campaign aides and Russian actors who allegedly conducted a sabotage campaign against the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton, and into whether Russian officials have the capacity to blackmail Trump.

• His designated CIA director, Mike Pompeo, not only vouchsafed the intelligence community’s conclusion that Russia embarked on its disruption campaign with the goal of helping Trump, but promised the senators considering his nomination “to pursue foreign intelligence with vigor no matter where the facts lead.”

• Trump has forced the director of the Office of Government Ethics, Walter Shaub, Jr., to take the unprecedented step of upbraiding the president-elect for freezing out ethics officers, and for making financial decisions that leave him highly conflicted between his business and the public interest. Shaub calledTrump’s decision to hand executive control over his business to his sons “wholly inadequate” and urged him to fully divest from the Trump organization.

• Ethics experts, and others on the left and right, have observed that Trump is very likely to become in violation of the emoluments clause of the Constitutionalmost immediately after taking the oath of office. Trump will set off a silent constitutional crisis in hour zero, leaving everyone wondering when it will become impossible to ignore.

304 > 227. Your bitch lost.

Your candidate is compromised in ways that cannot be undone. Republicans will throw him under the bus at the first opportunity, because they never wanted him in the first place. The clock is ticking on the Trump Presidency, before it's even begun.

He didn't win the popular vote, and he's Putin's bitch. Trump has never said one critical thing about Putin. Nothing but praise for the murdering ex-head of the KGB. Ever wonder why that is?

You do know that the KGB is famous for "honey pot" extortion. And Trump has certainly taken on Putin's "deny, deflect, and attack" method of dealing with critics. And his false narritives.

Republicans have the White House, the Senate and the House. They don't need Trump. Pence will do just fine.

Tick tock Donnie.

when someone doesn't do their job we call them out. you all call out your failing politicians?

obummer was a failure and you will sit in here and tell us how great he was. yeah that's sad you have no integrity in your bones.

You all can't even admit obummercare a failure when Bill Clinton said it was.

Obama was a success . Just use regular objective criteria that we have for all presidents.

Here's what conservatives do . They create new/obscure statistics that are specifically designed to slander obama .

For example "people not in the workforce ". A stat never really used before . And they also do not adjust it for population growth in order to make it look more damning . They would have you believe 1/3 of America is unemployed . Rediculous.

Yes, obscure statistics no one ever heard of before like economic growth and labor participation rate. I mean, WTF, talk about manufacturing statistics no one heard of before.

With the level of butt hurt you people have now, it's going to be a painful four years for you. Wait until you start seeing Trump 2020 posters.

On the bright side, think of all the room you'll have now that you can't sit in chairs anymore ...

 

[jc456]

Yep, like here:

Obama didn't write that . Plus it's been proven over and over he was born in the us . Still the righties go with the fake news .

No shit Dick Tracey. Which is why I said he LIED. If he was born in Kenya, he wouldn't have lied, stupid fudge packer. You really can't follow a discussion, can you, wheelchair boy? But then you are, Timmy!

And I also keep saying even if he was born in Kenya he's natural born American, his mother was American. You've been obviously reading this thread and know that. Cut the crap, dumb ass and address what I said

So every time someone writes something about obama it's true ?

Guess that makes the Trump pee party true also!

It wasn't "someone" sparky, it was his book, his publisher

You mean his publisher who specifically said that Barack Obama never told them he was born in Kenya?

kaz lies easier than kaz breathes.

He knows that the only evidence we have shows that Barack Obama never said he was born in Kenya.
But kaz prefers to lie about President Obama. Because it is easier for him than breathing.

no one's paying attention to you. You can ignore the facts all you want pup!!!

 

[Syriusly]

Conflicts of interest. Russian connections. These are the salient issues concerning Trump's legitimacy. Had he disclosed his tax returns, had he had a more responsible response to the Russian hacking story, he might not be under this cloud of suspicion. Trump did not win a majority of the vote. He cannot effectively govern with just the support of his base. He will need the support of the whole nation.

Has the IRS charged him with anything? Has the IRS even suggested a problem with his taxes?

No?

Shut up then!

His tax returns will reveal his foreign connections. Presidents have released their taxes since Roosevelt. What is Trump hiding?

To make such a claim means you would have already had to have seen them. Is that the case? Since it's not, so much for your claim.

Trump must deal with his birtherisms over the next 4 years. Obama did it for 8 years! Why can't Trump do 4 years Trump deal with the same????

Why it's not the same thing fruit loop, it is a requirement to be born in the United States.. It's not a requirement to show tax forms
.

Both Barack Obama and Donald Trump were born in the United States.

There is no requirement that either prove that they were-but Barack Obama did- and then Donald Trump spent 5 years trying to undermine the President by claiming he was not.

There is no requirement that the President ever show his tax returns. Trump hasn't- making Trump the least transparent President in decades.

 

[Syriusly]

sure obummer did, put it in a book as well. but why look at facts .

Clearly you don't look at facts- you just swallow Birther jism.

Barack Obama has never said he was born anywhere but the United States....oh wait- he also confessed he was born on the planet Krypton.....

except for the times he did say it.

Yep, like here:

Obama didn't write that . Plus it's been proven over and over he was born in the us . Still the righties go with the fake news .

No shit Dick Tracey. Which is why I said he LIED. d

You said he lied because you are a liar.

You keep making this lie over and over- and when called on it- you point out that you have absolutely no evidence that Barack Obama ever said he was born in Kenya- you just claim he did.