Who's illegitimate now Mr Birtherism?

[jc456]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

From what I understand Hillary was the first one to question Douchebag's American birth.

Oh and won't you have egg on you're face if they do in fact find out Obama wasn't born in the US??

Hillary never once questioned Barack Obama's American birth.

Trump did it for 5 years and then when he got the Birther votes for the nomination, 'pivoted' to the rational side to win the general election throwing the gullible Birthers under the bus.

OMG your love for obummer is clouding your ability to see. you really didn't just say that right?

Fact checking the media — yes, the Clinton machine did start the birther movement

"“The birther issue came out of Hillary Clinton’s campaign in the 2008 elections,” said Pastor Darrell Scott, who was on the panel over the weekend, only to be forcefully cut off."

Well, Obama was the ORIGINAL birther.

Well since you have yet to be able to produce a SINGLE example of Barack Obama ever saying he was born in Kenya- this is just you kazzing again.

evidence already presented.

 

[jc456]

Fine. Why don't you just shut up? You are the petullant child, boor and bully in this conversation.

You cannot make him release his taxes any more than you can force me to do so. Learn to live with it.

Just pointing out- that just a few years ago Donald Trump was the petullant child trying to get President Obama to release his college records.

Of course Trump is not obligated to release his tax returns- he can hide anything he wants.

Obama's college records would indicate if he committed fraud. He was under no obligation to release them but I think that they should have been subpoenaed to investigate if he attended college as a foreign student while holding American citizenship.

Trump's tax returns would indicate if he committed fraud or ohter crimes. I think they should have been subpoenaed to investigate if he received fraud payments from Russia.

That makes as much sense as your nonsense.

Subpoened by whom? For what? Just because Birthers make this crap up, doesn't mean that you get to go around subpoening any records you want- just like i can't require Trump to release his taxes to 'prove' he is not getting payments from Russia.

Birthers.......lol

Obama's college records would have proven whether or not what you ass lickers say is true actually is. Where are those records?

The same place as Donald Trump's college records- which would say whether or not what you ass lickers say about Trump are actually true.

Of course Trump hasn't released his college records or his tax records.

Making Trump the least transparent president in decades.

But you asslickers don't care what Trump doesn't release to you- just the dirt you keep hoping(in vain) to get on President Obama.

are you playing Pee Wee Herman now?

 

[Claudette]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

From what I understand Hillary was the first one to question Douchebag's American birth.

Oh and won't you have egg on you're face if they do in fact find out Obama wasn't born in the US??

Hillary never once questioned Barack Obama's American birth.

Trump did it for 5 years and then when he got the Birther votes for the nomination, 'pivoted' to the rational side to win the general election throwing the gullible Birthers under the bus.

I beg to differ.

7 News Stories from 2008 that PROVE Hillary Started Obama 'Birtherism' - Media is LYING!

 

[kaz]

Just pointing out- that just a few years ago Donald Trump was the petullant child trying to get President Obama to release his college records.

Of course Trump is not obligated to release his tax returns- he can hide anything he wants.

Obama's college records would indicate if he committed fraud. He was under no obligation to release them but I think that they should have been subpoenaed to investigate if he attended college as a foreign student while holding American citizenship.

Trump's tax returns would indicate if he committed fraud or ohter crimes. I think they should have been subpoenaed to investigate if he received fraud payments from Russia.

That makes as much sense as your nonsense.

Subpoened by whom? For what? Just because Birthers make this crap up, doesn't mean that you get to go around subpoening any records you want- just like i can't require Trump to release his taxes to 'prove' he is not getting payments from Russia.

Birthers.......lol

Obama's college records would have proven whether or not what you ass lickers say is true actually is. Where are those records?

The same place as Donald Trump's college records- which would say whether or not what you ass lickers say about Trump are actually true.

Of course Trump hasn't released his college records or his tax records.

Making Trump the least transparent president in decades.

But you asslickers don't care what Trump doesn't release to you- just the dirt you keep hoping(in vain) to get on President Obama.

are you playing Pee Wee Herman now?

I ignore the little whiny bitch because you get him with any liberals and he starts circle jerking. But as you quoted him, I viewed ignored posts in this thread to see the discussion.

My compliments, sir, you handed his ass to him ...

 

[sartre play]

Let's review. There is a segment of Americans who are so sincerely concerned with the viability of our democracy that they demand to see the following:

President Obama's college transcripts

President Obama's birth certificate

Sec. Clinton's emails

The financial disclosures from the Clinton Foundation

Sec. Clinton's records from the Rose Law firm

President Obama's baptismal certificate

Former President Clinton's meeting diary after he left office

Tax returns from every president since Franklin Roosevelt

But Donald Trump's financial information? Naw! That's not important and asking for them reflects a political attack.

Donald Trump could be asked if he had low fat cream cheese on his breakfast bagel and HE would consider that a political attack. Are his ardent supporters as thin skinned and politically myopic as the huckster buffoon?

Or were they not that sincere about obtaining information so they could safe guard the integrity of our democratic process?

 

[eddiew37]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

From what I understand Hillary was the first one to question Douchebag's American birth.

Oh and won't you have egg on you're face if they do in fact find out Obama wasn't born in the US??

Hillary never once questioned Barack Obama's American birth.

Trump did it for 5 years and then when he got the Birther votes for the nomination, 'pivoted' to the rational side to win the general election throwing the gullible Birthers under the bus.

I beg to differ.

7 News Stories from 2008 that PROVE Hillary Started Obama 'Birtherism' - Media is LYING!

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The Origin Story Of The Big Lie That Hillary Clinton Started Birtherism
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ByKATHERINE KRUEGERPublishedSEPTEMBER 16, 2016, 1:38 PM EDT
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When Donald Trump’s full-fledged birtherism makes headlines, conservatives are quick to claim that he didn’t start the movement to question whether President Barack Obama was born in the United States – actually, Hillary Clinton started the whole thing!

It’s a seductive line of defense, one that Trump reinvigorated in a speech on Friday morning, where, after five years of spouting innuendo and conspiracy theories, he finally unequivocally declared that “President Obama was born in the United States. Period." Yet at the same time, he falsely accused Clinton of kicking off the birther controversy back in 2008.

That myth has been enthusiastically pushed by the right-wing media and, lately, parroted as fact by some of the mainstream media elite. CNN’s Wolf Blitzer claimed on the air Sept. 9 that the birther movement began “not with Hillary Clinton but some of her aides,” which is also demonstrably false.

As recently as September 2015, Trump was tweeting: “Just remember, the birther movement was started by Hillary Clinton in 2008. She was all in!”

Trump's birtherism wasn't born of a vaccum. So where did he get the false idea that it originated with Clinton or her campaign staff?

 

[jc456]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

From what I understand Hillary was the first one to question Douchebag's American birth.

Oh and won't you have egg on you're face if they do in fact find out Obama wasn't born in the US??

Hillary never once questioned Barack Obama's American birth.

Trump did it for 5 years and then when he got the Birther votes for the nomination, 'pivoted' to the rational side to win the general election throwing the gullible Birthers under the bus.

I beg to differ.

7 News Stories from 2008 that PROVE Hillary Started Obama 'Birtherism' - Media is LYING!

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The Origin Story Of The Big Lie That Hillary Clinton Started Birtherism
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ByKATHERINE KRUEGERPublishedSEPTEMBER 16, 2016, 1:38 PM EDT
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When Donald Trump’s full-fledged birtherism makes headlines, conservatives are quick to claim that he didn’t start the movement to question whether President Barack Obama was born in the United States – actually, Hillary Clinton started the whole thing!

It’s a seductive line of defense, one that Trump reinvigorated in a speech on Friday morning, where, after five years of spouting innuendo and conspiracy theories, he finally unequivocally declared that “President Obama was born in the United States. Period." Yet at the same time, he falsely accused Clinton of kicking off the birther controversy back in 2008.

That myth has been enthusiastically pushed by the right-wing media and, lately, parroted as fact by some of the mainstream media elite. CNN’s Wolf Blitzer claimed on the air Sept. 9 that the birther movement began “not with Hillary Clinton but some of her aides,” which is also demonstrably false.

As recently as September 2015, Trump was tweeting: “Just remember, the birther movement was started by Hillary Clinton in 2008. She was all in!”

Trump's birtherism wasn't born of a vaccum. So where did he get the false idea that it originated with Clinton or her campaign staff?

it's simple........It Did.

 

[eddiew37]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

From what I understand Hillary was the first one to question Douchebag's American birth.

Oh and won't you have egg on you're face if they do in fact find out Obama wasn't born in the US??

Hillary never once questioned Barack Obama's American birth.

Trump did it for 5 years and then when he got the Birther votes for the nomination, 'pivoted' to the rational side to win the general election throwing the gullible Birthers under the bus.

I beg to differ.

7 News Stories from 2008 that PROVE Hillary Started Obama 'Birtherism' - Media is LYING!

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The Origin Story Of The Big Lie That Hillary Clinton Started Birtherism
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ByKATHERINE KRUEGERPublishedSEPTEMBER 16, 2016, 1:38 PM EDT
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When Donald Trump’s full-fledged birtherism makes headlines, conservatives are quick to claim that he didn’t start the movement to question whether President Barack Obama was born in the United States – actually, Hillary Clinton started the whole thing!

It’s a seductive line of defense, one that Trump reinvigorated in a speech on Friday morning, where, after five years of spouting innuendo and conspiracy theories, he finally unequivocally declared that “President Obama was born in the United States. Period." Yet at the same time, he falsely accused Clinton of kicking off the birther controversy back in 2008.

That myth has been enthusiastically pushed by the right-wing media and, lately, parroted as fact by some of the mainstream media elite. CNN’s Wolf Blitzer claimed on the air Sept. 9 that the birther movement began “not with Hillary Clinton but some of her aides,” which is also demonstrably false.

As recently as September 2015, Trump was tweeting: “Just remember, the birther movement was started by Hillary Clinton in 2008. She was all in!”

Trump's birtherism wasn't born of a vaccum. So where did he get the false idea that it originated with Clinton or her campaign staff?

it's simple........It Did.

On one hand I have republicans who are know liars , a presidential candidate who lies almost every time he opens his mouth, and a group here who will kiss the ass of anyone speaking badly about republicans There is NEVER a reason to believe anything a republican says and the ones here are probably all related to each other

 

[Syriusly]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

From what I understand Hillary was the first one to question Douchebag's American birth.

Oh and won't you have egg on you're face if they do in fact find out Obama wasn't born in the US??

Hillary never once questioned Barack Obama's American birth.

Trump did it for 5 years and then when he got the Birther votes for the nomination, 'pivoted' to the rational side to win the general election throwing the gullible Birthers under the bus.

I beg to differ.

7 News Stories from 2008 that PROVE Hillary Started Obama 'Birtherism' - Media is LYING!

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The Origin Story Of The Big Lie That Hillary Clinton Started Birtherism
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ByKATHERINE KRUEGERPublishedSEPTEMBER 16, 2016, 1:38 PM EDT
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When Donald Trump’s full-fledged birtherism makes headlines, conservatives are quick to claim that he didn’t start the movement to question whether President Barack Obama was born in the United States – actually, Hillary Clinton started the whole thing!

It’s a seductive line of defense, one that Trump reinvigorated in a speech on Friday morning, where, after five years of spouting innuendo and conspiracy theories, he finally unequivocally declared that “President Obama was born in the United States. Period." Yet at the same time, he falsely accused Clinton of kicking off the birther controversy back in 2008.

That myth has been enthusiastically pushed by the right-wing media and, lately, parroted as fact by some of the mainstream media elite. CNN’s Wolf Blitzer claimed on the air Sept. 9 that the birther movement began “not with Hillary Clinton but some of her aides,” which is also demonstrably false.

As recently as September 2015, Trump was tweeting: “Just remember, the birther movement was started by Hillary Clinton in 2008. She was all in!”

Trump's birtherism wasn't born of a vaccum. So where did he get the false idea that it originated with Clinton or her campaign staff?

Obama's college records would indicate if he committed fraud. He was under no obligation to release them but I think that they should have been subpoenaed to investigate if he attended college as a foreign student while holding American citizenship.

Trump's tax returns would indicate if he committed fraud or ohter crimes. I think they should have been subpoenaed to investigate if he received fraud payments from Russia.

That makes as much sense as your nonsense.

Subpoened by whom? For what? Just because Birthers make this crap up, doesn't mean that you get to go around subpoening any records you want- just like i can't require Trump to release his taxes to 'prove' he is not getting payments from Russia.

Birthers.......lol

Obama's college records would have proven whether or not what you ass lickers say is true actually is. Where are those records?

The same place as Donald Trump's college records- which would say whether or not what you ass lickers say about Trump are actually true.

Of course Trump hasn't released his college records or his tax records.

Making Trump the least transparent president in decades.

But you asslickers don't care what Trump doesn't release to you- just the dirt you keep hoping(in vain) to get on President Obama.

are you playing Pee Wee Herman now?

I ignore the ..

Because Kaz is a cowardly liar.

Like the Cowardly Lion- only weinier.

 

[Syriusly]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

From what I understand Hillary was the first one to question Douchebag's American birth.

Oh and won't you have egg on you're face if they do in fact find out Obama wasn't born in the US??

Hillary never once questioned Barack Obama's American birth.

Trump did it for 5 years and then when he got the Birther votes for the nomination, 'pivoted' to the rational side to win the general election throwing the gullible Birthers under the bus.

I beg to differ.

You can beg as much as you want- you were not able to find a single quote by Hillary Clinton ever questioning Barack Obama place of birth.,

Meanwhile- Trump did for 5 years- why do you think that Trump was just Hillary's gullible bitch?

 

[Syriusly]

From what I understand Hillary was the first one to question Douchebag's American birth.

Oh and won't you have egg on you're face if they do in fact find out Obama wasn't born in the US??

Hillary never once questioned Barack Obama's American birth.

Trump did it for 5 years and then when he got the Birther votes for the nomination, 'pivoted' to the rational side to win the general election throwing the gullible Birthers under the bus.

OMG your love for obummer is clouding your ability to see. you really didn't just say that right?

Fact checking the media — yes, the Clinton machine did start the birther movement

"“The birther issue came out of Hillary Clinton’s campaign in the 2008 elections,” said Pastor Darrell Scott, who was on the panel over the weekend, only to be forcefully cut off."

Well, Obama was the ORIGINAL birther.

Well since you have yet to be able to produce a SINGLE example of Barack Obama ever saying he was born in Kenya- this is just you kazzing again.

evidence already presented.

Again- what evidence? LOL

Remember- you pulling Birther crap out of your ass is not 'evidence' of anything other than you rely upon crap as evidence.

You cannot find a single example of Barack Obama ever saying he was born in Kenya.

So of course that is 'evidence' to you.

 

[Syriusly]

Just pointing out- that just a few years ago Donald Trump was the petullant child trying to get President Obama to release his college records.

Of course Trump is not obligated to release his tax returns- he can hide anything he wants.

Obama's college records would indicate if he committed fraud. He was under no obligation to release them but I think that they should have been subpoenaed to investigate if he attended college as a foreign student while holding American citizenship.

Trump's tax returns would indicate if he committed fraud or ohter crimes. I think they should have been subpoenaed to investigate if he received fraud payments from Russia.

That makes as much sense as your nonsense.

Subpoened by whom? For what? Just because Birthers make this crap up, doesn't mean that you get to go around subpoening any records you want- just like i can't require Trump to release his taxes to 'prove' he is not getting payments from Russia.

Birthers.......lol

Obama's college records would have proven whether or not what you ass lickers say is true actually is. Where are those records?

The same place as Donald Trump's college records- which would say whether or not what you ass lickers say about Trump are actually true.

Of course Trump hasn't released his college records or his tax records.

Making Trump the least transparent president in decades.

But you asslickers don't care what Trump doesn't release to you- just the dirt you keep hoping(in vain) to get on President Obama.

are you playing Pee Wee Herman now?

Speaking of Pee Wee Herman

 

[Syriusly]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

From what I understand Hillary was the first one to question Douchebag's American birth.

Oh and won't you have egg on you're face if they do in fact find out Obama wasn't born in the US??

Hillary never once questioned Barack Obama's American birth.

Trump did it for 5 years and then when he got the Birther votes for the nomination, 'pivoted' to the rational side to win the general election throwing the gullible Birthers under the bus.

OMG your love for obummer is clouding your ability to see. you really didn't just say that right?

Fact checking the media — yes, the Clinton machine did start the birther movement

"“The birther issue came out of Hillary Clinton’s campaign in the 2008 elections,” said Pastor Darrell Scott, who was on the panel over the weekend, only to be forcefully cut off."

And once again- Hillary never once questioned Barack Obama's place of birth- feel free to provide the quote from her that proves me wrong.

Meanwhile- it is amusing that you want to believe that Trump is just a gullible idiot who had his strings pulled by Hillary Clinton when he went full Birther.

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Hillary Invented Birtherism: 11 Things the Media Won't Tell You

"Here are 11 things our corrupt media does not want the public to know about Hillary Clinton's role in inventing Birtherism. Please note that all of my sources are mainstream media sources."

Apparently one of the things the 'Media' doesn't want anyone to know is that Hillary Clinton never told anyone that Barack Obama was not born in the United States.

Meanwhile- it is amusing that you want to believe that Trump is just a gullible idiot who had his strings pulled by Hillary Clinton when he went full Birther.

 

[Claudette]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

From what I understand Hillary was the first one to question Douchebag's American birth.

Oh and won't you have egg on you're face if they do in fact find out Obama wasn't born in the US??

Hillary never once questioned Barack Obama's American birth.

Trump did it for 5 years and then when he got the Birther votes for the nomination, 'pivoted' to the rational side to win the general election throwing the gullible Birthers under the bus.

I beg to differ.

You can beg as much as you want- you were not able to find a single quote by Hillary Clinton ever questioning Barack Obama place of birth.,

Meanwhile- Trump did for 5 years- why do you think that Trump was just Hillary's gullible bitch?

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7 News Stories from 2008 that PROVE Hillary Started Obama 'Birtherism' - Media is LYING!

 

[Syriusly]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

From what I understand Hillary was the first one to question Douchebag's American birth.

Oh and won't you have egg on you're face if they do in fact find out Obama wasn't born in the US??

Hillary never once questioned Barack Obama's American birth.

Trump did it for 5 years and then when he got the Birther votes for the nomination, 'pivoted' to the rational side to win the general election throwing the gullible Birthers under the bus.

I beg to differ.

You can beg as much as you want- you were not able to find a single quote by Hillary Clinton ever questioning Barack Obama place of birth.,

Meanwhile- Trump did for 5 years- why do you think that Trump was just Hillary's gullible bitch?

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7 News Stories from 2008 that PROVE Hillary Started Obama 'Birtherism' - Media is LYING!

Another post- another example of you being unable to provide a single quote from Clinton going Birther.

Meanwhile- Trump did for 5 years- why do you think that Trump was just Hillary's gullible bitch?

 

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No one is illegitimate

 

[Avatar4321]

you see kaz you live by the sword you die by the sword It was YOUR president elect that called Obama illegitimate for 5 or so years Why shouldn't dems return the favor with even more reason to do so???

Trump is everyone's president. Not just kaz's. And that's despite kaz voting against him.

As for why democrats shouldn't do that: Because they are supposed to be adults. They could be mature and show the people they are better than trump. Instead they show that they are no better to worse.

 

[jc456]

From what I understand Hillary was the first one to question Douchebag's American birth.

Oh and won't you have egg on you're face if they do in fact find out Obama wasn't born in the US??

Hillary never once questioned Barack Obama's American birth.

Trump did it for 5 years and then when he got the Birther votes for the nomination, 'pivoted' to the rational side to win the general election throwing the gullible Birthers under the bus.

I beg to differ.

7 News Stories from 2008 that PROVE Hillary Started Obama 'Birtherism' - Media is LYING!

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ByKATHERINE KRUEGERPublishedSEPTEMBER 16, 2016, 1:38 PM EDT
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When Donald Trump’s full-fledged birtherism makes headlines, conservatives are quick to claim that he didn’t start the movement to question whether President Barack Obama was born in the United States – actually, Hillary Clinton started the whole thing!

It’s a seductive line of defense, one that Trump reinvigorated in a speech on Friday morning, where, after five years of spouting innuendo and conspiracy theories, he finally unequivocally declared that “President Obama was born in the United States. Period." Yet at the same time, he falsely accused Clinton of kicking off the birther controversy back in 2008.

That myth has been enthusiastically pushed by the right-wing media and, lately, parroted as fact by some of the mainstream media elite. CNN’s Wolf Blitzer claimed on the air Sept. 9 that the birther movement began “not with Hillary Clinton but some of her aides,” which is also demonstrably false.

As recently as September 2015, Trump was tweeting: “Just remember, the birther movement was started by Hillary Clinton in 2008. She was all in!”

Trump's birtherism wasn't born of a vaccum. So where did he get the false idea that it originated with Clinton or her campaign staff?

it's simple........It Did.

On one hand I have republicans who are know liars , a presidential candidate who lies almost every time he opens his mouth, and a group here who will kiss the ass of anyone speaking badly about republicans There is NEVER a reason to believe anything a republican says and the ones here are probably all related to each other

Dude you need to reread your post. Too fking funny.

what the fk does this mean:

"a presidential candidate who lies almost every time he opens his mouth, and a group here who will kiss the ass of anyone speaking badly about republicans "

 

[jc456]

Hillary never once questioned Barack Obama's American birth.

Trump did it for 5 years and then when he got the Birther votes for the nomination, 'pivoted' to the rational side to win the general election throwing the gullible Birthers under the bus.

OMG your love for obummer is clouding your ability to see. you really didn't just say that right?

Fact checking the media — yes, the Clinton machine did start the birther movement

"“The birther issue came out of Hillary Clinton’s campaign in the 2008 elections,” said Pastor Darrell Scott, who was on the panel over the weekend, only to be forcefully cut off."

Well, Obama was the ORIGINAL birther.

Well since you have yet to be able to produce a SINGLE example of Barack Obama ever saying he was born in Kenya- this is just you kazzing again.

evidence already presented.

Again- what evidence? LOL

Remember- you pulling Birther crap out of your ass is not 'evidence' of anything other than you rely upon crap as evidence.

You cannot find a single example of Barack Obama ever saying he was born in Kenya.

So of course that is 'evidence' to you.

evidence already posted in the thread.

 

[Avatar4321]

All these butt hurt liberals really believe the American people are with them. They are absolutely delusional. I hope they keep it up. Trump may end up with 100% of the House and Senate. We the people are paying attention to who is trying to create problems for President Trump. We elected him we will back him.

2016 election:

1. Hillary Clinton won by almost 3 million votes. She actually got more votes than Obama did in 2012.

2. Democrats won the Senate vote, added up nationally, by 11 million.

3. Democrats gained seats in the House.

It's an exercise in mind bending delusion to call that an overwhelming victory for the GOP.

Then your party shouldn't change anything since they won the election. Pay no attention to the man in the white house.

Did I say anyone won the election who didn't?

My bad, it seemed like you were declaring a Democratic victory.

No, I was pointing out how ridiculous the people sound who declare that some sort of colossal landslide occurred in 2016 that is going to lead to a 1000 year GOP Reich.

You should. You lefties need constant reminders that opposing you doesn't make the GOP nazis