Why am I a grateful "ex-Conservative"? Here-

[CrusaderFrank]

If that kid was a true Libertarian, he'd take all his property and leave his Dad's house, and say "Dad I don't need anybody but myself, Im out" and the Dad should've respected his wishes and kicked him out and cut him off!!!

Paid shill for Obama says what?

 

[NightFox]

Oh....there are plenty of them. Libertarians want extremely small, limited government.

Very shallow assertion, especially given that the United States is a REPUBLIC, consider the fact that the choice isn't between a minarchist federal government and an enormous federal government, there's a valid argument to be made for a small, strictly constitutionally restrained federal government and then devolution of principle authority to state and local government. As opposed to the direction we're going now wherein we try to impose cookie cutter approaches at the federal level to every societal challenge under the sun without regard to their affect on lifestyle, needs or wants of the entire patchwork of communities that make up the Country.

That is the concept the United States was founded upon, so that most decisions would be made at the local and state level (closest to the people they affected) and only when needed would be escalated to the federal level. Think about it , if you live in say New Hampshire do you really believe it's appropriate to shove your standards down the throats of people that live in say Texas without regard to what effect it will have on their chosen community standards? Not only is this methodology highly unjust it's also inefficient and subjects all of our individual liberty to violation by a remote central authority.

"It is not by the consolidation or concentration of powers, but by their distribution that good government is effected. Were not this great country already divided into States, that division must be made that each might do for itself what concerns itself directly and what it can so much better do than a distant authority. Every state again is divided into counties, each to take care of what lies within its local bounds; each county again into townships or wards, to manage minuter details; and every ward into farms, to be governed each by its individual proprietor" -- Thomas Jefferson

 

[Vox]

I think you are a just a fake and a cheap one.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

All of your posts leaned left-- all the time so why is it you leftist morons always claim to be republicans, independents? No one buys it.. Clowns.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Why is it that it's always LIBRULS who claim to be independents , lie about it forever then one day make a statement that they're "now" leftists? LMAO Happens all of the time!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Like Starkey, bucs labors under the fundamental misconception that we take him seriously and are therefore capable of emulating them and embracing the Nanny State

 

[G.T.]

All of your posts leaned left-- all the time so why is it you leftist morons always claim to be republicans, independents? No one buys it.. Clowns.

Except, if you were here long enough you'd know that Bucs was as seething right-wing as it possibly got. That's just the truth.

 

[Stephanie]

oh gawd...isn't he Speciaaaaal

now they feel they must share their bs because they've become high and mighty

he's went from a conservative to Socialist overnight...you believe that, then you will believe when I tell you I am the queen of England

 

[G.T.]

Like Starkey, bucs labors under the fundamental misconception that we take him seriously and are therefore capable of emulating them and embracing the Nanny State

You have no personal responsibility in not being an ass hole to anyone who doesn't agree with your politics.

If that's not a problem to you, good on ya. But - nobody wants to be around a douchebag like that.

Bucs is nothing but cordial to people on here - yet you find him somehow worthy of this childish ridicule. "Noone takes him seriously."

You really had a need to report that? Read it back to yourself and pretend you don't sound like a seventh grade bully boy.

 

[G.T.]

oh gawd...isn't he Speciaaaaal

now they feel they must share their bs because they've become high and mighty

he's went from a conservative to Socialist overnight...whoopee

And all you ever do is post in people's threads of the opposite persuasion to add little neener neener clown shit. Grow the fuck up.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Its been over a year since I decided I was no longer a good fit for the right wing conservative ideology. Everyone on here remembers me from the years past. I was as much of a yellow-rattlesnake flying right winger as anyone could imagine. But I didn't know why. Just because my peers and politicians in this area said I should be. Until I spent some time and really figured my values out. Since separating myself from the right wing, a few things are different that I never thought would be:

- I don't hate taxes. Sure, no one loves paying it. But, with the nonsense no longer clouding my thought, I see it for what it is. I like our roads. Our cops, our firemen, our military...I'm grateful for all of them. I don't have kids in school, but I'm glad we have them. It educates my younger peers, and that is a good thing. Welfare? Sure, it's abused. So is beer and internet. But would I rather those people starve? No. So I pay some taxes that go to welfare, and some gets wasted. That thought just reminds me that I'm lucky enough to not be on welfare, but helping pay for it. That's a good thing. I like buying food and knowing its been inspected and held to standards. I hear about other less fortunate nations and large numbers of people dying from food and pollution..........that could have been prevented with some simple oversight. I do not want to defund or abolish agencies that do these thankless jobs, and I realize my taxes fund that.

- I don't oppose gay marriage or weed; Im neither gay, nor a weed smoker. But, again, without all the people telling me to oppose it just....well, just because I need to........I can clearly see that neither of those harm me or my family. So whose business is it to ban either? Not mine. And not my government's. If you believe in a God, then its between you and your God. But I no longer oppose either. Both are harmless to me and my family. And neither me nor my government has a right to ban something that does no harm. I thought that was a conservative principle at one time.....and still should be.

- I no longer support war unless it is unavoidable. Support the troops, yes, absolutely. But they deserve our best. If we cant afford to take care of them when they return from a war, then we shouldn't be sending them. Again, taxes pay for that. I'm sickened by the war hawk politicians....who have private defense industry lobbyists at dinner with them. Those companies need war to stay in business. Our troops deserve better.



It truly is liberating to just analyze an ideology you adhere to from a distance and deciding for yourself if it is for you. You'll see that you may be doing it just because others tell you that you should.

As I former right winger I approve of most of what you just said. Extremism is pure idiocy!!! Extremist don't live within the first world and surely don't care about most of what goes into being a first world country; military, police, fire, education, etc.

I feel that common sense should be used when thinking about subjects. That's surely missing when you're a extremist.

 

[Stephanie]

oh gawd...isn't he Speciaaaaal

now they feel they must share their bs because they've become high and mighty

he's went from a conservative to Socialist overnight...whoopee

And all you ever do is post in people's threads of the opposite persuasion to add little neener neener clown shit. Grow the fuck up.

shut the fuck up...it's a free country..when you own the board you can tell me what do

 

[editec]

The BEAUTY of being an INDEPENDENT is that you are free to think for yourself, and speak your mind without fear of betraying your allies.

The TRAGEDY of being an INDEPENDENT is that political power TAKES ORGANIZATION.

I would dearly love to become a member of a political party if I could find one that didn't make me want to become an assassin.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

All of your posts leaned left-- all the time so why is it you leftist morons always claim to be republicans, independents? No one buys it.. Clowns.

Except, if you were here long enough you'd know that Bucs was as seething right-wing as it possibly got. That's just the truth.

I've been here for almost three years now so it had to have taken place prior to that.. Doesn't pass the sniff test for me.. but whatever jimmies his rod.

 

[Stephanie]

Like Starkey, bucs labors under the fundamental misconception that we take him seriously and are therefore capable of emulating them and embracing the Nanny State

You have no personal responsibility in not being an ass hole to anyone who doesn't agree with your politics.

If that's not a problem to you, good on ya. But - nobody wants to be around a douchebag like that.

Bucs is nothing but cordial to people on here - yet you find him somehow worthy of this childish ridicule. "Noone takes him seriously."

You really had a need to report that? Read it back to yourself and pretend you don't sound like a seventh grade bully boy.

hummm, now who posted this?

And all you ever do is post in people's threads of the opposite persuasion to add little neener neener clown shit. Grow the fuck up.

look in mirror and laugh at yourself

 

[ScienceRocks]

Can you name a first world country that doesn't have police, fire, teachers, professors, or thousands of other things?

The building blocks of a first world nation are Science, Tech and infrastructure...The butters milk.

 

[G.T.]

All of your posts leaned left-- all the time so why is it you leftist morons always claim to be republicans, independents? No one buys it.. Clowns.

Except, if you were here long enough you'd know that Bucs was as seething right-wing as it possibly got. That's just the truth.

I've been here for almost three years now so it had to have taken place prior to that.. Doesn't pass the sniff test for me.. but whatever jimmies his rod.

It's a fact though, so.....it is what it is. He might have even been a birther iirc.

 

[Vox]

oh gawd...isn't he Speciaaaaal

now they feel they must share their bs because they've become high and mighty

he's went from a conservative to Socialist overnight...you believe that, then you will believe when I tell you I am the queen of England

They are all like twins - fakey, now this one

repeating all the same propaganda bs and thinking somebody will buy it

 

[G.T.]

Its been over a year since I decided I was no longer a good fit for the right wing conservative ideology. Everyone on here remembers me from the years past. I was as much of a yellow-rattlesnake flying right winger as anyone could imagine. But I didn't know why. Just because my peers and politicians in this area said I should be. Until I spent some time and really figured my values out. Since separating myself from the right wing, a few things are different that I never thought would be:

- I don't hate taxes. Sure, no one loves paying it. But, with the nonsense no longer clouding my thought, I see it for what it is. I like our roads. Our cops, our firemen, our military...I'm grateful for all of them. I don't have kids in school, but I'm glad we have them. It educates my younger peers, and that is a good thing. Welfare? Sure, it's abused. So is beer and internet. But would I rather those people starve? No. So I pay some taxes that go to welfare, and some gets wasted. That thought just reminds me that I'm lucky enough to not be on welfare, but helping pay for it. That's a good thing. I like buying food and knowing its been inspected and held to standards. I hear about other less fortunate nations and large numbers of people dying from food and pollution..........that could have been prevented with some simple oversight. I do not want to defund or abolish agencies that do these thankless jobs, and I realize my taxes fund that.

- I don't oppose gay marriage or weed; Im neither gay, nor a weed smoker. But, again, without all the people telling me to oppose it just....well, just because I need to........I can clearly see that neither of those harm me or my family. So whose business is it to ban either? Not mine. And not my government's. If you believe in a God, then its between you and your God. But I no longer oppose either. Both are harmless to me and my family. And neither me nor my government has a right to ban something that does no harm. I thought that was a conservative principle at one time.....and still should be.

- I no longer support war unless it is unavoidable. Support the troops, yes, absolutely. But they deserve our best. If we cant afford to take care of them when they return from a war, then we shouldn't be sending them. Again, taxes pay for that. I'm sickened by the war hawk politicians....who have private defense industry lobbyists at dinner with them. Those companies need war to stay in business. Our troops deserve better.



It truly is liberating to just analyze an ideology you adhere to from a distance and deciding for yourself if it is for you. You'll see that you may be doing it just because others tell you that you should.

As I former right winger I approve of most of what you just said. Extremism is pure idiocy!!! Extremist don't live within the first world and surely don't care about most of what goes into being a first world country; military, police, fire, education, etc.

I feel that common sense should be used when thinking about subjects. That's surely missing when you're a extremist.

Common sense independents is what the Country needs in my opinion. People are too competitive and territorial to pick "sides" and then attempt to trick their brain to look at issues with a level head. It's not working, for a lot of people. Message boards is where you can see how prevalent that is.

 

[DiamondDave]

Don't delude yourself BUC.... you called yourself a conservative.. you never really were.. you called yourself one only in an attempt to masquerade