Why an atheist

[Grumblenuts]

So dull you just can't ignore me

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if all you are is an animal, speak for yourself try not to drag everyone else into your misery.

Funny. Couldn't be happier or more at peace, but I thought you were the one constantly talking up the fauna and flora.. Seems all that's suddenly been shed far beneath you. You're now like Saruman chopping down all the trees and pissing off the Ents just to impress the Dark Lord. It's not nice to fool Mother Nature! Btw, I always speak for myself, fyvm

 

[presonorek]

I am an Atheist, because faith doesn't establish anything.

I don't have his phone number, e-mail or even vapors from this made up being who is believed to have created the king of hate and war, the tree of knowledge that is forbidden to eat from and do nothing for thousands of years while human have wars, pestilence and misery, with no end in sight, what a god!

Since there is no evidence that one of the made up gods are real, I don't waste my time worrying about it.

It feels so good to be a freethinking being, not beholden to politics, ideology and faith, what a life it is to be free of the useless made up crap!

Now the predictable replies will come storming in.....

Must suck to be you, knowing when you die, you are only worm food.. Of course if there is a God, then there must be a Lucifer, not knowing could be an eternity that you might not like.

Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals (crossroad.to)

Opening page - Dedication
“Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history... the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.”

I dont believe in religion because that was made by man to control man, but when i saw 3 of my children, those gifts from God, were miracles...

Ha ha ha, I am doing fine.

It is always funny when Christians make these ugly comments about those who don't take their delusion seriously. You insult yourself and your wife by giving credit to a delusion for having children, it was YOUR sperm and HER Egg that made the child, that is the reality you should embrace.

I will go for cremation, will not waste another piece of land to lay a carcass in, that is for religious nuts who don't even realize that body will never be used again, not even your precious wholly babble supports this burial nonsense.

The reason we bury people in caskets is because a casket salesman long long ago said you had to and he did a very good job convincing people. The same goes for tombstones, health insurance, and college education. There were good marketers long long ago that did such a good job promoting their product that their product is still being pushed several generations later.

 

[presonorek]

I am an Atheist, because faith doesn't establish anything.

I don't have his phone number, e-mail or even vapors from this made up being who is believed to have created the king of hate and war, the tree of knowledge that is forbidden to eat from and do nothing for thousands of years while human have wars, pestilence and misery, with no end in sight, what a god!

Since there is no evidence that one of the made up gods are real, I don't waste my time worrying about it.

It feels so good to be a freethinking being, not beholden to politics, ideology and faith, what a life it is to be free of the useless made up crap!

Now the predictable replies will come storming in.....

Must suck to be you,

Most people are handed their religious beliefs like an inheritance, something you are given as a family heirloom and never question. Consequently I believe that most of our everyday Christian beliefs are quite shallow. Even those who seem devout have never really given their religion the kind of attention it needs.

I come from a non religious family, with no religious relatives. Of course God was always there but simply as a picture on the wall, nothing to make it real. It was like getting up in the morning, you always do it but it hasn't any real meaning in your life.

Like so many high schoolers I began to question, but I began to question what I was not taught. Why was it that so many people seemed to believe in god and I did not? I began to read and would continue to do so for the next couple of decades.

I am not passing myself off as a bible scholar. Nor am I saying that those years were spent in intensive academic study, nothing like that. Now and then I would simply read books, mostly histories of biblical times that traced the evolution of Christian beliefs as events unfolded. The faith continues to evolve even today. It always seemed to be a question of "change or die", and change it did.

So unlike many true believers, who view the bible as a constant, I see the Bible being constantly "reinterpreted" in order not to fall victim to current events.

What the fanatics like fail to realize is that the Bible made less history than it followed. They go to "bibel collage" swallowing whole the dogma of their particular bent. Never realizing that the "never changing" faith they profess to hold bears little resemblance to the same faith of a couple hundred years ago. To question is to blaspheme and that is never good.

I am now finished questioning. It has been over for very long time. I still read now and again but it is pretty much over. Been there, done that. I have reached a conclusion and now all that matters is that I keep reasonably current. I try to pay attention to new thoughts but I don't need to constantly rehash the old.

I wish it had turned out otherwise. I really wanted to believe but I could not settle for blind belief. Everyone knows, or should know, that there is not one objective fact to support the existence of a god, any god.

I suppose, like most things, there are many routes to atheism. I have no idea. I only know a couple of people who say they are atheists. I know for sure that it is difficult for believers and atheists to have a civil discussion. I have no idea why that is. Perhaps because religion needs faith, blind faith, and it seems to me that an atheist must be a questioner.

Oddly enough, some of the best discussions I have had were with a Lutheran Pastor.

All I do know is that we should not put everyone in the same bag. There are good and bad people in every belief system. Some of the best folks I know are Christians. Some of the worst folks I know are Christians. As I said, I don't know enough atheists to matter.

So to all those of faith out there who use their beliefs to better their lives and the lives of others I say, "good for you". To all those who use their faith as a place to reinforce their hatreds and bigotry I say, "Damn you"!

It became evident to me that everyone is an atheist. The Bible is crystal clear on everything but people believe their own hoshposh of ideas even if they say they are Christian. I just prefer being honest and saying that I don’t believe the Bible. Christians have to do a lot of tap dancing. The lying was always uncomfortable to me.

I’m the exact same person that I was when I was a Christian. I just don’t lie anymore. That’s the only difference.

 

[BreezeWood]

So dull you just can't ignore me

.
if all you are is an animal, speak for yourself try not to drag everyone else into your misery.

Funny. Couldn't be happier or more at peace, but I thought you were the one constantly talking up the fauna and flora.. Seems all that's suddenly been shed far beneath you. You're now like Saruman chopping down all the trees and pissing off the Ents just to impress the Dark Lord. It's not nice to fool Mother Nature! Btw, I always speak for myself, fyvm

.

Funny. Couldn't be happier or more at peace, but I thought you were the one constantly talking up the fauna and flora.. Seems all that's suddenly been shed far beneath you. You're now like Saruman chopping down all the trees and pissing off the Ents just to impress the Dark Lord. It's not nice to fool Mother Nature! Btw, I always speak for myself, fyvm

Also, we are just animals. We die and rot just like all the rest.

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if being dull is fun then that's fine, nut's - yes, fauna and flora are the guide for Earth's future it is you the same as your dullness to equate life as "animals" too bad for you they have the spirit of life you are lacking.

 

[Meriweather]

I’m the exact same person that I was when I was a Christian. I just don’t lie anymore. That’s the only difference.

Then you now readily admit that you have never understood the Bible and the original intent of any of the stories? You have never dug below the surface of the words into the meaning? Keep in mind there are a number of people who do not "read" what you are reading, and it is a mistake to believe that they do.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

I am an Atheist, because faith doesn't establish anything.

I don't have his phone number, e-mail or even vapors from this made up being who is believed to have created the king of hate and war, the tree of knowledge that is forbidden to eat from and do nothing for thousands of years while human have wars, pestilence and misery, with no end in sight, what a god!

Since there is no evidence that one of the made up gods are real, I don't waste my time worrying about it.

It feels so good to be a freethinking being, not beholden to politics, ideology and faith, what a life it is to be free of the useless made up crap!

Now the predictable replies will come storming in.....

Must suck to be you, knowing when you die, you are only worm food.. Of course if there is a God, then there must be a Lucifer, not knowing could be an eternity that you might not like.

Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals (crossroad.to)

Opening page - Dedication
“Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history... the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.”

I dont believe in religion because that was made by man to control man, but when i saw 3 of my children, those gifts from God, were miracles...

Ha ha ha, I am doing fine.

It is always funny when Christians make these ugly comments about those who don't take their delusion seriously. You insult yourself and your wife by giving credit to a delusion for having children, it was YOUR sperm and HER Egg that made the child, that is the reality you should embrace.

I will go for cremation, will not waste another piece of land to lay a carcass in, that is for religious nuts who don't even realize that body will never be used again, not even your precious wholly babble supports this burial nonsense.

The reason we bury people in caskets is because a casket salesman long long ago said you had to and he did a very good job convincing people. The same goes for tombstones, health insurance, and college education. There were good marketers long long ago that did such a good job promoting their product that their product is still being pushed several generations later.

When you die, if you have a will, but probably have nothing to pass on, just tell your peers(or god forbid you have children) to just leave you on the roadside so, some vermin can eat your sorry ass....The critter will probably die from indigestion...

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

I am an Atheist, because faith doesn't establish anything.

I don't have his phone number, e-mail or even vapors from this made up being who is believed to have created the king of hate and war, the tree of knowledge that is forbidden to eat from and do nothing for thousands of years while human have wars, pestilence and misery, with no end in sight, what a god!

Since there is no evidence that one of the made up gods are real, I don't waste my time worrying about it.

It feels so good to be a freethinking being, not beholden to politics, ideology and faith, what a life it is to be free of the useless made up crap!

Now the predictable replies will come storming in.....

Must suck to be you,

Most people are handed their religious beliefs like an inheritance, something you are given as a family heirloom and never question. Consequently I believe that most of our everyday Christian beliefs are quite shallow. Even those who seem devout have never really given their religion the kind of attention it needs.

I come from a non religious family, with no religious relatives. Of course God was always there but simply as a picture on the wall, nothing to make it real. It was like getting up in the morning, you always do it but it hasn't any real meaning in your life.

Like so many high schoolers I began to question, but I began to question what I was not taught. Why was it that so many people seemed to believe in god and I did not? I began to read and would continue to do so for the next couple of decades.

I am not passing myself off as a bible scholar. Nor am I saying that those years were spent in intensive academic study, nothing like that. Now and then I would simply read books, mostly histories of biblical times that traced the evolution of Christian beliefs as events unfolded. The faith continues to evolve even today. It always seemed to be a question of "change or die", and change it did.

So unlike many true believers, who view the bible as a constant, I see the Bible being constantly "reinterpreted" in order not to fall victim to current events.

What the fanatics like fail to realize is that the Bible made less history than it followed. They go to "bibel collage" swallowing whole the dogma of their particular bent. Never realizing that the "never changing" faith they profess to hold bears little resemblance to the same faith of a couple hundred years ago. To question is to blaspheme and that is never good.

I am now finished questioning. It has been over for very long time. I still read now and again but it is pretty much over. Been there, done that. I have reached a conclusion and now all that matters is that I keep reasonably current. I try to pay attention to new thoughts but I don't need to constantly rehash the old.

I wish it had turned out otherwise. I really wanted to believe but I could not settle for blind belief. Everyone knows, or should know, that there is not one objective fact to support the existence of a god, any god.

I suppose, like most things, there are many routes to atheism. I have no idea. I only know a couple of people who say they are atheists. I know for sure that it is difficult for believers and atheists to have a civil discussion. I have no idea why that is. Perhaps because religion needs faith, blind faith, and it seems to me that an atheist must be a questioner.

Oddly enough, some of the best discussions I have had were with a Lutheran Pastor.

All I do know is that we should not put everyone in the same bag. There are good and bad people in every belief system. Some of the best folks I know are Christians. Some of the worst folks I know are Christians. As I said, I don't know enough atheists to matter.

So to all those of faith out there who use their beliefs to better their lives and the lives of others I say, "good for you". To all those who use their faith as a place to reinforce their hatreds and bigotry I say, "Damn you"!

It became evident to me that everyone is an atheist. The Bible is crystal clear on everything but people believe their own hoshposh of ideas even if they say they are Christian. I just prefer being honest and saying that I don’t believe the Bible. Christians have to do a lot of tap dancing. The lying was always uncomfortable to me.

I’m the exact same person that I was when I was a Christian. I just don’t lie anymore. That’s the only difference.

Sure, you can "think"(I know that is hard for a prog slave) what you like, but some of us actually know there is a higher power....And it isnt the government..

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

I am an Atheist, because faith doesn't establish anything.

I don't have his phone number, e-mail or even vapors from this made up being who is believed to have created the king of hate and war, the tree of knowledge that is forbidden to eat from and do nothing for thousands of years while human have wars, pestilence and misery, with no end in sight, what a god!

Since there is no evidence that one of the made up gods are real, I don't waste my time worrying about it.

It feels so good to be a freethinking being, not beholden to politics, ideology and faith, what a life it is to be free of the useless made up crap!

Now the predictable replies will come storming in.....

Must suck to be you,

Most people are handed their religious beliefs like an inheritance, something you are given as a family heirloom and never question. Consequently I believe that most of our everyday Christian beliefs are quite shallow. Even those who seem devout have never really given their religion the kind of attention it needs.

I come from a non religious family, with no religious relatives. Of course God was always there but simply as a picture on the wall, nothing to make it real. It was like getting up in the morning, you always do it but it hasn't any real meaning in your life.

Like so many high schoolers I began to question, but I began to question what I was not taught. Why was it that so many people seemed to believe in god and I did not? I began to read and would continue to do so for the next couple of decades.

I am not passing myself off as a bible scholar. Nor am I saying that those years were spent in intensive academic study, nothing like that. Now and then I would simply read books, mostly histories of biblical times that traced the evolution of Christian beliefs as events unfolded. The faith continues to evolve even today. It always seemed to be a question of "change or die", and change it did.

So unlike many true believers, who view the bible as a constant, I see the Bible being constantly "reinterpreted" in order not to fall victim to current events.

What the fanatics like fail to realize is that the Bible made less history than it followed. They go to "bibel collage" swallowing whole the dogma of their particular bent. Never realizing that the "never changing" faith they profess to hold bears little resemblance to the same faith of a couple hundred years ago. To question is to blaspheme and that is never good.

I am now finished questioning. It has been over for very long time. I still read now and again but it is pretty much over. Been there, done that. I have reached a conclusion and now all that matters is that I keep reasonably current. I try to pay attention to new thoughts but I don't need to constantly rehash the old.

I wish it had turned out otherwise. I really wanted to believe but I could not settle for blind belief. Everyone knows, or should know, that there is not one objective fact to support the existence of a god, any god.

I suppose, like most things, there are many routes to atheism. I have no idea. I only know a couple of people who say they are atheists. I know for sure that it is difficult for believers and atheists to have a civil discussion. I have no idea why that is. Perhaps because religion needs faith, blind faith, and it seems to me that an atheist must be a questioner.

Oddly enough, some of the best discussions I have had were with a Lutheran Pastor.

All I do know is that we should not put everyone in the same bag. There are good and bad people in every belief system. Some of the best folks I know are Christians. Some of the worst folks I know are Christians. As I said, I don't know enough atheists to matter.

So to all those of faith out there who use their beliefs to better their lives and the lives of others I say, "good for you". To all those who use their faith as a place to reinforce their hatreds and bigotry I say, "Damn you"!

It became evident to me that everyone is an atheist. The Bible is crystal clear on everything but people believe their own hoshposh of ideas even if they say they are Christian. I just prefer being honest and saying that I don’t believe the Bible. Christians have to do a lot of tap dancing. The lying was always uncomfortable to me.

I’m the exact same person that I was when I was a Christian. I just don’t lie anymore. That’s the only difference.

Must really suck to be you...

 

[BreezeWood]

I am an Atheist, because faith doesn't establish anything.

I don't have his phone number, e-mail or even vapors from this made up being who is believed to have created the king of hate and war, the tree of knowledge that is forbidden to eat from and do nothing for thousands of years while human have wars, pestilence and misery, with no end in sight, what a god!

Since there is no evidence that one of the made up gods are real, I don't waste my time worrying about it.

It feels so good to be a freethinking being, not beholden to politics, ideology and faith, what a life it is to be free of the useless made up crap!

Now the predictable replies will come storming in.....

Must suck to be you,

Most people are handed their religious beliefs like an inheritance, something you are given as a family heirloom and never question. Consequently I believe that most of our everyday Christian beliefs are quite shallow. Even those who seem devout have never really given their religion the kind of attention it needs.

I come from a non religious family, with no religious relatives. Of course God was always there but simply as a picture on the wall, nothing to make it real. It was like getting up in the morning, you always do it but it hasn't any real meaning in your life.

Like so many high schoolers I began to question, but I began to question what I was not taught. Why was it that so many people seemed to believe in god and I did not? I began to read and would continue to do so for the next couple of decades.

I am not passing myself off as a bible scholar. Nor am I saying that those years were spent in intensive academic study, nothing like that. Now and then I would simply read books, mostly histories of biblical times that traced the evolution of Christian beliefs as events unfolded. The faith continues to evolve even today. It always seemed to be a question of "change or die", and change it did.

So unlike many true believers, who view the bible as a constant, I see the Bible being constantly "reinterpreted" in order not to fall victim to current events.

What the fanatics like fail to realize is that the Bible made less history than it followed. They go to "bibel collage" swallowing whole the dogma of their particular bent. Never realizing that the "never changing" faith they profess to hold bears little resemblance to the same faith of a couple hundred years ago. To question is to blaspheme and that is never good.

I am now finished questioning. It has been over for very long time. I still read now and again but it is pretty much over. Been there, done that. I have reached a conclusion and now all that matters is that I keep reasonably current. I try to pay attention to new thoughts but I don't need to constantly rehash the old.

I wish it had turned out otherwise. I really wanted to believe but I could not settle for blind belief. Everyone knows, or should know, that there is not one objective fact to support the existence of a god, any god.

I suppose, like most things, there are many routes to atheism. I have no idea. I only know a couple of people who say they are atheists. I know for sure that it is difficult for believers and atheists to have a civil discussion. I have no idea why that is. Perhaps because religion needs faith, blind faith, and it seems to me that an atheist must be a questioner.

Oddly enough, some of the best discussions I have had were with a Lutheran Pastor.

All I do know is that we should not put everyone in the same bag. There are good and bad people in every belief system. Some of the best folks I know are Christians. Some of the worst folks I know are Christians. As I said, I don't know enough atheists to matter.

So to all those of faith out there who use their beliefs to better their lives and the lives of others I say, "good for you". To all those who use their faith as a place to reinforce their hatreds and bigotry I say, "Damn you"!

It became evident to me that everyone is an atheist. The Bible is crystal clear on everything but people believe their own hoshposh of ideas even if they say they are Christian. I just prefer being honest and saying that I don’t believe the Bible. Christians have to do a lot of tap dancing. The lying was always uncomfortable to me.

I’m the exact same person that I was when I was a Christian. I just don’t lie anymore. That’s the only difference.

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It became evident to me that everyone is an atheist.

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physiology itself is a metaphysical substance that disappears when its spiritual content is removed and is an inexplicable reality to either a theist or an atheist the same as a bases for discussion not the relevance of certain desert religions as the focus of persuasion for or against eternal life in the Everlasting.

you seem to avoid rather than embrace spirituality by your dismissal of the christian bible rather than its relevance generically for what it misrepresents than what truly exists in understanding the purpose of life.

 

[Grumblenuts]

if being dull is fun then that's fine, nut's - yes, fauna and flora are the guide for Earth's future it is you the same as your dullness to equate life as "animals" too bad for you they have the spirit of life you are lacking.

Yeah, yeah, you're such a funny, fearful, human non-animal that, oh look.. now you've got andaronjim to love you! Enjoy all that stardumb while it lasts.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

if being dull is fun then that's fine, nut's - yes, fauna and flora are the guide for Earth's future it is you the same as your dullness to equate life as "animals" too bad for you they have the spirit of life you are lacking.

Yeah, yeah, you're such a funny, fearful, human non-animal that, oh look.. now you've got andaronjim to love you! Enjoy all that stardumb while it lasts.

Must suck to be you also....I used to be amazed at how hateful the bigots are towards people who believe, then i realized they had sold their souls to Lucifer.

Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals

Opening page - Dedication
“Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history... the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.”

 

[Colin norris]

I am an Atheist, because faith doesn't establish anything.

I don't have his phone number, e-mail or even vapors from this made up being who is believed to have created the king of hate and war, the tree of knowledge that is forbidden to eat from and do nothing for thousands of years while human have wars, pestilence and misery, with no end in sight, what a god!

Since there is no evidence that one of the made up gods are real, I don't waste my time worrying about it.

It feels so good to be a freethinking being, not beholden to politics, ideology and faith, what a life it is to be free of the useless made up crap!

Now the predictable replies will come storming in.....

Must suck to be you, knowing when you die, you are only worm food.. Of course if there is a God, then there must be a Lucifer, not knowing could be an eternity that you might not like.

Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals (crossroad.to)

Opening page - Dedication
“Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history... the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.”

I dont believe in religion because that was made by man to control man, but when i saw 3 of my children, those gifts from God, were miracles...

What makes you think you get unique access to heaven and others won't?
How arrogant are you know and predict the destination of others.

You don't know. You pompous godbotherers only think youre privileged.

Bwaaaaahhaaaaaa....Seems that you have a real issue with believers....

Not at all. I hate all religions for the same reasons. As I stated, you arrogantly suggest you are privileged and have unique access to some heaven rubbish simultaneously threatening non believers with eternal fire.
How wonderful and caring are you.
In fact, you have no proof of anything and never will. Faith does not equate to fact.
What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Bewahahahahah to that you ignoramus.

 

[edthecynic]

if being dull is fun then that's fine, nut's - yes, fauna and flora are the guide for Earth's future it is you the same as your dullness to equate life as "animals" too bad for you they have the spirit of life you are lacking.

Yeah, yeah, you're such a funny, fearful, human non-animal that, oh look.. now you've got andaronjim to love you! Enjoy all that stardumb while it lasts.

Must suck to be you also....I used to be amazed at how hateful the bigots are towards people who believe, then i realized they had sold their souls to Lucifer.

Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals

Opening page - Dedication
“Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history... the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.”

This LIE again! His book was dedicated to his wife IRENE, but as someone made in the image of God, you can't stop yourself from LYING.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

I am an Atheist, because faith doesn't establish anything.

I don't have his phone number, e-mail or even vapors from this made up being who is believed to have created the king of hate and war, the tree of knowledge that is forbidden to eat from and do nothing for thousands of years while human have wars, pestilence and misery, with no end in sight, what a god!

Since there is no evidence that one of the made up gods are real, I don't waste my time worrying about it.

It feels so good to be a freethinking being, not beholden to politics, ideology and faith, what a life it is to be free of the useless made up crap!

Now the predictable replies will come storming in.....

Must suck to be you, knowing when you die, you are only worm food.. Of course if there is a God, then there must be a Lucifer, not knowing could be an eternity that you might not like.

Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals (crossroad.to)

Opening page - Dedication
“Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history... the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.”

I dont believe in religion because that was made by man to control man, but when i saw 3 of my children, those gifts from God, were miracles...

What makes you think you get unique access to heaven and others won't?
How arrogant are you know and predict the destination of others.

You don't know. You pompous godbotherers only think youre privileged.

Bwaaaaahhaaaaaa....Seems that you have a real issue with believers....

Not at all. I hate all religions for the same reasons. As I stated, you arrogantly suggest you are privileged and have unique access to some heaven rubbish simultaneously threatening non believers with eternal fire.
How wonderful and caring are you.
In fact, you have no proof of anything and never will. Faith does not equate to fact.
What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Bewahahahahah to that you ignoramus.

You must use the Rules for Radicals dont you.

As I stated, you arrogantly suggest you are privileged

How so?

 

[presonorek]

I am an Atheist, because faith doesn't establish anything.

I don't have his phone number, e-mail or even vapors from this made up being who is believed to have created the king of hate and war, the tree of knowledge that is forbidden to eat from and do nothing for thousands of years while human have wars, pestilence and misery, with no end in sight, what a god!

Since there is no evidence that one of the made up gods are real, I don't waste my time worrying about it.

It feels so good to be a freethinking being, not beholden to politics, ideology and faith, what a life it is to be free of the useless made up crap!

Now the predictable replies will come storming in.....

Must suck to be you,

Most people are handed their religious beliefs like an inheritance, something you are given as a family heirloom and never question. Consequently I believe that most of our everyday Christian beliefs are quite shallow. Even those who seem devout have never really given their religion the kind of attention it needs.

I come from a non religious family, with no religious relatives. Of course God was always there but simply as a picture on the wall, nothing to make it real. It was like getting up in the morning, you always do it but it hasn't any real meaning in your life.

Like so many high schoolers I began to question, but I began to question what I was not taught. Why was it that so many people seemed to believe in god and I did not? I began to read and would continue to do so for the next couple of decades.

I am not passing myself off as a bible scholar. Nor am I saying that those years were spent in intensive academic study, nothing like that. Now and then I would simply read books, mostly histories of biblical times that traced the evolution of Christian beliefs as events unfolded. The faith continues to evolve even today. It always seemed to be a question of "change or die", and change it did.

So unlike many true believers, who view the bible as a constant, I see the Bible being constantly "reinterpreted" in order not to fall victim to current events.

What the fanatics like fail to realize is that the Bible made less history than it followed. They go to "bibel collage" swallowing whole the dogma of their particular bent. Never realizing that the "never changing" faith they profess to hold bears little resemblance to the same faith of a couple hundred years ago. To question is to blaspheme and that is never good.

I am now finished questioning. It has been over for very long time. I still read now and again but it is pretty much over. Been there, done that. I have reached a conclusion and now all that matters is that I keep reasonably current. I try to pay attention to new thoughts but I don't need to constantly rehash the old.

I wish it had turned out otherwise. I really wanted to believe but I could not settle for blind belief. Everyone knows, or should know, that there is not one objective fact to support the existence of a god, any god.

I suppose, like most things, there are many routes to atheism. I have no idea. I only know a couple of people who say they are atheists. I know for sure that it is difficult for believers and atheists to have a civil discussion. I have no idea why that is. Perhaps because religion needs faith, blind faith, and it seems to me that an atheist must be a questioner.

Oddly enough, some of the best discussions I have had were with a Lutheran Pastor.

All I do know is that we should not put everyone in the same bag. There are good and bad people in every belief system. Some of the best folks I know are Christians. Some of the worst folks I know are Christians. As I said, I don't know enough atheists to matter.

So to all those of faith out there who use their beliefs to better their lives and the lives of others I say, "good for you". To all those who use their faith as a place to reinforce their hatreds and bigotry I say, "Damn you"!

It became evident to me that everyone is an atheist. The Bible is crystal clear on everything but people believe their own hoshposh of ideas even if they say they are Christian. I just prefer being honest and saying that I don’t believe the Bible. Christians have to do a lot of tap dancing. The lying was always uncomfortable to me.

I’m the exact same person that I was when I was a Christian. I just don’t lie anymore. That’s the only difference.

Sure, you can "think"(I know that is hard for a prog slave) what you like, but some of us actually know there is a higher power....And it isnt the government..

Well. Not everybody has access to the information you do. Sorry. I don’t know.

If I saw the proof like you did then I would know too, so jump off your high horse. You are no better than me. You just got to have some proof. I never got any.

However, you have your own disadvantages. Because you know it to be true for a fact then you look like a full blown disgusting filthy low down good for nothing lying pile of crap to those of us who don’t have the proof. You can laugh at me for being stupid. I can laugh at you for being the most disgusting liar who ever lived. Neither one of us is in any better of a position than the other. I will take being a stupid idiot than is wrong. You are stuck with appearing to be a giant fucking liar.

 

[presonorek]

I am an Atheist, because faith doesn't establish anything.

I don't have his phone number, e-mail or even vapors from this made up being who is believed to have created the king of hate and war, the tree of knowledge that is forbidden to eat from and do nothing for thousands of years while human have wars, pestilence and misery, with no end in sight, what a god!

Since there is no evidence that one of the made up gods are real, I don't waste my time worrying about it.

It feels so good to be a freethinking being, not beholden to politics, ideology and faith, what a life it is to be free of the useless made up crap!

Now the predictable replies will come storming in.....

Must suck to be you, knowing when you die, you are only worm food.. Of course if there is a God, then there must be a Lucifer, not knowing could be an eternity that you might not like.

Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals (crossroad.to)

Opening page - Dedication
“Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history... the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.”

I dont believe in religion because that was made by man to control man, but when i saw 3 of my children, those gifts from God, were miracles...

Ha ha ha, I am doing fine.

It is always funny when Christians make these ugly comments about those who don't take their delusion seriously. You insult yourself and your wife by giving credit to a delusion for having children, it was YOUR sperm and HER Egg that made the child, that is the reality you should embrace.

I will go for cremation, will not waste another piece of land to lay a carcass in, that is for religious nuts who don't even realize that body will never be used again, not even your precious wholly babble supports this burial nonsense.

The reason we bury people in caskets is because a casket salesman long long ago said you had to and he did a very good job convincing people. The same goes for tombstones, health insurance, and college education. There were good marketers long long ago that did such a good job promoting their product that their product is still being pushed several generations later.

When you die, if you have a will, but probably have nothing to pass on, just tell your peers(or god forbid you have children) to just leave you on the roadside so, some vermin can eat your sorry ass....The critter will probably die from indigestion...

Ok. You sound like a reasonable person. I can follow your advice. Thanks for the tip.

 

[presonorek]

I am an Atheist, because faith doesn't establish anything.

I don't have his phone number, e-mail or even vapors from this made up being who is believed to have created the king of hate and war, the tree of knowledge that is forbidden to eat from and do nothing for thousands of years while human have wars, pestilence and misery, with no end in sight, what a god!

Since there is no evidence that one of the made up gods are real, I don't waste my time worrying about it.

It feels so good to be a freethinking being, not beholden to politics, ideology and faith, what a life it is to be free of the useless made up crap!

Now the predictable replies will come storming in.....

Must suck to be you,

Most people are handed their religious beliefs like an inheritance, something you are given as a family heirloom and never question. Consequently I believe that most of our everyday Christian beliefs are quite shallow. Even those who seem devout have never really given their religion the kind of attention it needs.

I come from a non religious family, with no religious relatives. Of course God was always there but simply as a picture on the wall, nothing to make it real. It was like getting up in the morning, you always do it but it hasn't any real meaning in your life.

Like so many high schoolers I began to question, but I began to question what I was not taught. Why was it that so many people seemed to believe in god and I did not? I began to read and would continue to do so for the next couple of decades.

I am not passing myself off as a bible scholar. Nor am I saying that those years were spent in intensive academic study, nothing like that. Now and then I would simply read books, mostly histories of biblical times that traced the evolution of Christian beliefs as events unfolded. The faith continues to evolve even today. It always seemed to be a question of "change or die", and change it did.

So unlike many true believers, who view the bible as a constant, I see the Bible being constantly "reinterpreted" in order not to fall victim to current events.

What the fanatics like fail to realize is that the Bible made less history than it followed. They go to "bibel collage" swallowing whole the dogma of their particular bent. Never realizing that the "never changing" faith they profess to hold bears little resemblance to the same faith of a couple hundred years ago. To question is to blaspheme and that is never good.

I am now finished questioning. It has been over for very long time. I still read now and again but it is pretty much over. Been there, done that. I have reached a conclusion and now all that matters is that I keep reasonably current. I try to pay attention to new thoughts but I don't need to constantly rehash the old.

I wish it had turned out otherwise. I really wanted to believe but I could not settle for blind belief. Everyone knows, or should know, that there is not one objective fact to support the existence of a god, any god.

I suppose, like most things, there are many routes to atheism. I have no idea. I only know a couple of people who say they are atheists. I know for sure that it is difficult for believers and atheists to have a civil discussion. I have no idea why that is. Perhaps because religion needs faith, blind faith, and it seems to me that an atheist must be a questioner.

Oddly enough, some of the best discussions I have had were with a Lutheran Pastor.

All I do know is that we should not put everyone in the same bag. There are good and bad people in every belief system. Some of the best folks I know are Christians. Some of the worst folks I know are Christians. As I said, I don't know enough atheists to matter.

So to all those of faith out there who use their beliefs to better their lives and the lives of others I say, "good for you". To all those who use their faith as a place to reinforce their hatreds and bigotry I say, "Damn you"!

It became evident to me that everyone is an atheist. The Bible is crystal clear on everything but people believe their own hoshposh of ideas even if they say they are Christian. I just prefer being honest and saying that I don’t believe the Bible. Christians have to do a lot of tap dancing. The lying was always uncomfortable to me.

I’m the exact same person that I was when I was a Christian. I just don’t lie anymore. That’s the only difference.

Must really suck to be you...

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It does. Every atheist in this forum will tell you that being an atheist sucks ass. Being best friends with the most powerful being in existence has to be a high unmatched by any experience a human has ever had. I’d love to be a Christian. I’d totally prefer it. Yes. My life sucks ass. Why is that relevant in any way shape of form? Should I believe lies just to make myself happier? That isn’t really believing lies. That is pretending to believe lies. I guess it seems irresponsible.

 

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I am an Atheist, because faith doesn't establish anything.

I don't have his phone number, e-mail or even vapors from this made up being who is believed to have created the king of hate and war, the tree of knowledge that is forbidden to eat from and do nothing for thousands of years while human have wars, pestilence and misery, with no end in sight, what a god!

Since there is no evidence that one of the made up gods are real, I don't waste my time worrying about it.

It feels so good to be a freethinking being, not beholden to politics, ideology and faith, what a life it is to be free of the useless made up crap!

Now the predictable replies will come storming in.....

Must suck to be you,

Most people are handed their religious beliefs like an inheritance, something you are given as a family heirloom and never question. Consequently I believe that most of our everyday Christian beliefs are quite shallow. Even those who seem devout have never really given their religion the kind of attention it needs.

I come from a non religious family, with no religious relatives. Of course God was always there but simply as a picture on the wall, nothing to make it real. It was like getting up in the morning, you always do it but it hasn't any real meaning in your life.

Like so many high schoolers I began to question, but I began to question what I was not taught. Why was it that so many people seemed to believe in god and I did not? I began to read and would continue to do so for the next couple of decades.

I am not passing myself off as a bible scholar. Nor am I saying that those years were spent in intensive academic study, nothing like that. Now and then I would simply read books, mostly histories of biblical times that traced the evolution of Christian beliefs as events unfolded. The faith continues to evolve even today. It always seemed to be a question of "change or die", and change it did.

So unlike many true believers, who view the bible as a constant, I see the Bible being constantly "reinterpreted" in order not to fall victim to current events.

What the fanatics like fail to realize is that the Bible made less history than it followed. They go to "bibel collage" swallowing whole the dogma of their particular bent. Never realizing that the "never changing" faith they profess to hold bears little resemblance to the same faith of a couple hundred years ago. To question is to blaspheme and that is never good.

I am now finished questioning. It has been over for very long time. I still read now and again but it is pretty much over. Been there, done that. I have reached a conclusion and now all that matters is that I keep reasonably current. I try to pay attention to new thoughts but I don't need to constantly rehash the old.

I wish it had turned out otherwise. I really wanted to believe but I could not settle for blind belief. Everyone knows, or should know, that there is not one objective fact to support the existence of a god, any god.

I suppose, like most things, there are many routes to atheism. I have no idea. I only know a couple of people who say they are atheists. I know for sure that it is difficult for believers and atheists to have a civil discussion. I have no idea why that is. Perhaps because religion needs faith, blind faith, and it seems to me that an atheist must be a questioner.

Oddly enough, some of the best discussions I have had were with a Lutheran Pastor.

All I do know is that we should not put everyone in the same bag. There are good and bad people in every belief system. Some of the best folks I know are Christians. Some of the worst folks I know are Christians. As I said, I don't know enough atheists to matter.

So to all those of faith out there who use their beliefs to better their lives and the lives of others I say, "good for you". To all those who use their faith as a place to reinforce their hatreds and bigotry I say, "Damn you"!

It became evident to me that everyone is an atheist. The Bible is crystal clear on everything but people believe their own hoshposh of ideas even if they say they are Christian. I just prefer being honest and saying that I don’t believe the Bible. Christians have to do a lot of tap dancing. The lying was always uncomfortable to me.

I’m the exact same person that I was when I was a Christian. I just don’t lie anymore. That’s the only difference.

Sure, you can "think"(I know that is hard for a prog slave) what you like, but some of us actually know there is a higher power....And it isnt the government..

Well. Not everybody has access to the information you do. Sorry. I don’t know.

If I saw the proof like you did then I would know too, so jump off your high horse. You are no better than me. You just got to have some proof. I never got any.

However, you have your own disadvantages. Because you know it to be true for a fact then you look like a full blown disgusting filthy low down good for nothing lying pile of crap to those of us who don’t have the proof. You can laugh at me for being stupid. I can laugh at you for being the most disgusting liar who ever lived. Neither one of us is in any better of a position than the other. I will take being a stupid idiot than is wrong. You are stuck with appearing to be a giant fucking liar.

Wow. Your last edit took that far. I thought it was better pre-edit.

 

[presonorek]

I am an Atheist, because faith doesn't establish anything.

I don't have his phone number, e-mail or even vapors from this made up being who is believed to have created the king of hate and war, the tree of knowledge that is forbidden to eat from and do nothing for thousands of years while human have wars, pestilence and misery, with no end in sight, what a god!

Since there is no evidence that one of the made up gods are real, I don't waste my time worrying about it.

It feels so good to be a freethinking being, not beholden to politics, ideology and faith, what a life it is to be free of the useless made up crap!

Now the predictable replies will come storming in.....

Must suck to be you,

Most people are handed their religious beliefs like an inheritance, something you are given as a family heirloom and never question. Consequently I believe that most of our everyday Christian beliefs are quite shallow. Even those who seem devout have never really given their religion the kind of attention it needs.

I come from a non religious family, with no religious relatives. Of course God was always there but simply as a picture on the wall, nothing to make it real. It was like getting up in the morning, you always do it but it hasn't any real meaning in your life.

Like so many high schoolers I began to question, but I began to question what I was not taught. Why was it that so many people seemed to believe in god and I did not? I began to read and would continue to do so for the next couple of decades.

I am not passing myself off as a bible scholar. Nor am I saying that those years were spent in intensive academic study, nothing like that. Now and then I would simply read books, mostly histories of biblical times that traced the evolution of Christian beliefs as events unfolded. The faith continues to evolve even today. It always seemed to be a question of "change or die", and change it did.

So unlike many true believers, who view the bible as a constant, I see the Bible being constantly "reinterpreted" in order not to fall victim to current events.

What the fanatics like fail to realize is that the Bible made less history than it followed. They go to "bibel collage" swallowing whole the dogma of their particular bent. Never realizing that the "never changing" faith they profess to hold bears little resemblance to the same faith of a couple hundred years ago. To question is to blaspheme and that is never good.

I am now finished questioning. It has been over for very long time. I still read now and again but it is pretty much over. Been there, done that. I have reached a conclusion and now all that matters is that I keep reasonably current. I try to pay attention to new thoughts but I don't need to constantly rehash the old.

I wish it had turned out otherwise. I really wanted to believe but I could not settle for blind belief. Everyone knows, or should know, that there is not one objective fact to support the existence of a god, any god.

I suppose, like most things, there are many routes to atheism. I have no idea. I only know a couple of people who say they are atheists. I know for sure that it is difficult for believers and atheists to have a civil discussion. I have no idea why that is. Perhaps because religion needs faith, blind faith, and it seems to me that an atheist must be a questioner.

Oddly enough, some of the best discussions I have had were with a Lutheran Pastor.

All I do know is that we should not put everyone in the same bag. There are good and bad people in every belief system. Some of the best folks I know are Christians. Some of the worst folks I know are Christians. As I said, I don't know enough atheists to matter.

So to all those of faith out there who use their beliefs to better their lives and the lives of others I say, "good for you". To all those who use their faith as a place to reinforce their hatreds and bigotry I say, "Damn you"!

It became evident to me that everyone is an atheist. The Bible is crystal clear on everything but people believe their own hoshposh of ideas even if they say they are Christian. I just prefer being honest and saying that I don’t believe the Bible. Christians have to do a lot of tap dancing. The lying was always uncomfortable to me.

I’m the exact same person that I was when I was a Christian. I just don’t lie anymore. That’s the only difference.

Sure, you can "think"(I know that is hard for a prog slave) what you like, but some of us actually know there is a higher power....And it isnt the government..

Well. Not everybody has access to the information you do. Sorry. I don’t know.

If I saw the proof like you did then I would know too, so jump off your high horse. You are no better than me. You just got to have some proof. I never got any.

However, you have your own disadvantages. Because you know it to be true for a fact then you look like a full blown disgusting filthy low down good for nothing lying pile of crap to those of us who don’t have the proof. You can laugh at me for being stupid. I can laugh at you for being the most disgusting liar who ever lived. Neither one of us is in any better of a position than the other. I will take being a stupid idiot than is wrong. You are stuck with appearing to be a giant fucking liar.

Wow. Your last edit took that far. I thought it was better pre-edit.

We all have regrets in life. For me it is my edits.

 

[presonorek]

I am an Atheist, because faith doesn't establish anything.

I don't have his phone number, e-mail or even vapors from this made up being who is believed to have created the king of hate and war, the tree of knowledge that is forbidden to eat from and do nothing for thousands of years while human have wars, pestilence and misery, with no end in sight, what a god!

Since there is no evidence that one of the made up gods are real, I don't waste my time worrying about it.

It feels so good to be a freethinking being, not beholden to politics, ideology and faith, what a life it is to be free of the useless made up crap!

Now the predictable replies will come storming in.....

Must suck to be you,

Most people are handed their religious beliefs like an inheritance, something you are given as a family heirloom and never question. Consequently I believe that most of our everyday Christian beliefs are quite shallow. Even those who seem devout have never really given their religion the kind of attention it needs.

I come from a non religious family, with no religious relatives. Of course God was always there but simply as a picture on the wall, nothing to make it real. It was like getting up in the morning, you always do it but it hasn't any real meaning in your life.

Like so many high schoolers I began to question, but I began to question what I was not taught. Why was it that so many people seemed to believe in god and I did not? I began to read and would continue to do so for the next couple of decades.

I am not passing myself off as a bible scholar. Nor am I saying that those years were spent in intensive academic study, nothing like that. Now and then I would simply read books, mostly histories of biblical times that traced the evolution of Christian beliefs as events unfolded. The faith continues to evolve even today. It always seemed to be a question of "change or die", and change it did.

So unlike many true believers, who view the bible as a constant, I see the Bible being constantly "reinterpreted" in order not to fall victim to current events.

What the fanatics like fail to realize is that the Bible made less history than it followed. They go to "bibel collage" swallowing whole the dogma of their particular bent. Never realizing that the "never changing" faith they profess to hold bears little resemblance to the same faith of a couple hundred years ago. To question is to blaspheme and that is never good.

I am now finished questioning. It has been over for very long time. I still read now and again but it is pretty much over. Been there, done that. I have reached a conclusion and now all that matters is that I keep reasonably current. I try to pay attention to new thoughts but I don't need to constantly rehash the old.

I wish it had turned out otherwise. I really wanted to believe but I could not settle for blind belief. Everyone knows, or should know, that there is not one objective fact to support the existence of a god, any god.

I suppose, like most things, there are many routes to atheism. I have no idea. I only know a couple of people who say they are atheists. I know for sure that it is difficult for believers and atheists to have a civil discussion. I have no idea why that is. Perhaps because religion needs faith, blind faith, and it seems to me that an atheist must be a questioner.

Oddly enough, some of the best discussions I have had were with a Lutheran Pastor.

All I do know is that we should not put everyone in the same bag. There are good and bad people in every belief system. Some of the best folks I know are Christians. Some of the worst folks I know are Christians. As I said, I don't know enough atheists to matter.

So to all those of faith out there who use their beliefs to better their lives and the lives of others I say, "good for you". To all those who use their faith as a place to reinforce their hatreds and bigotry I say, "Damn you"!

It became evident to me that everyone is an atheist. The Bible is crystal clear on everything but people believe their own hoshposh of ideas even if they say they are Christian. I just prefer being honest and saying that I don’t believe the Bible. Christians have to do a lot of tap dancing. The lying was always uncomfortable to me.

I’m the exact same person that I was when I was a Christian. I just don’t lie anymore. That’s the only difference.

Sure, you can "think"(I know that is hard for a prog slave) what you like, but some of us actually know there is a higher power....And it isnt the government..

Well. Not everybody has access to the information you do. Sorry. I don’t know.

If I saw the proof like you did then I would know too, so jump off your high horse. You are no better than me. You just got to have some proof. I never got any.

However, you have your own disadvantages. Because you know it to be true for a fact then you look like a full blown disgusting filthy low down good for nothing lying pile of crap to those of us who don’t have the proof. You can laugh at me for being stupid. I can laugh at you for being the most disgusting liar who ever lived. Neither one of us is in any better of a position than the other. I will take being a stupid idiot than is wrong. You are stuck with appearing to be a giant fucking liar.

Wow. Your last edit took that far. I thought it was better pre-edit.

I am always violently jealous of people that have access to the proof of God’s existence. I hate them all with a vengeance. When in the fucking hell do I get my proof? God is making me look like an idiot.