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I would prefer this one.I started a thread on those in California wanting to form a new state called New California
New California declares 'independence' from California in bid to become 51st state
However, I was told that this was the 20th thread on the issue and closed down. Problem is, I can't find any other threads on it.
To make a long story short, the vast majority of California seems to want to be free of the insanity of San Fran and LA. At least, that is what the map they drew states.
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I would prefer this one.I started a thread on those in California wanting to form a new state called New California
New California declares 'independence' from California in bid to become 51st state
However, I was told that this was the 20th thread on the issue and closed down. Problem is, I can't find any other threads on it.
To make a long story short, the vast majority of California seems to want to be free of the insanity of San Fran and LA. At least, that is what the map they drew states.
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I would prefer this one.I started a thread on those in California wanting to form a new state called New California
New California declares 'independence' from California in bid to become 51st state
However, I was told that this was the 20th thread on the issue and closed down. Problem is, I can't find any other threads on it.
To make a long story short, the vast majority of California seems to want to be free of the insanity of San Fran and LA. At least, that is what the map they drew states.
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I prefer this one , see ya California...
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I would prefer this one.I started a thread on those in California wanting to form a new state called New California
New California declares 'independence' from California in bid to become 51st state
However, I was told that this was the 20th thread on the issue and closed down. Problem is, I can't find any other threads on it.
To make a long story short, the vast majority of California seems to want to be free of the insanity of San Fran and LA. At least, that is what the map they drew states.
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I prefer this one , see ya California...
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Yes, but will they have time to move to higher ground?
That is the question.
I would prefer this one.I started a thread on those in California wanting to form a new state called New California
New California declares 'independence' from California in bid to become 51st state
However, I was told that this was the 20th thread on the issue and closed down. Problem is, I can't find any other threads on it.
To make a long story short, the vast majority of California seems to want to be free of the insanity of San Fran and LA. At least, that is what the map they drew states.
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I prefer this one , see ya California...
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Yes, but will they have time to move to higher ground?
That is the question.
Not sure according to AGW cult it will come quick ..unless we give up on fossil fuels and run around half naked getting stoned on buffalo dung.
I prefer this one , see ya California...
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Yes, but will they have time to move to higher ground?
That is the question.
Not sure according to AGW cult it will come quick ..unless we give up on fossil fuels and run around half naked getting stoned on buffalo dung.
I know, build a border wall along the California coast before it floods.
You must have speed read over this part of my post.Drilling as instructed, I see the following in the SPM columns of Table 4:
The assertion in your thread title (prior to it and another thread being merged into the current thread) is that "Californians are 33% of US on Welfare," and that is the assertion with which I took exception and that I provided data to show is simply not so. Even using the data in Table 4, it's not so: 7.96/48.82 ≈ 0.15, or ~15%, which doesn't rise even to half of 33%.
- Total quantity of recipients: ~47.82M
- Total quantity of recipients in CA: ~7.96
Why is liberal California the poverty capital of America?
It’s not as though California policymakers have neglected to wage war on poverty. Sacramento and local governments have spent massive amounts in the cause. Several state and municipal benefit programs overlap with one another; in some cases, individuals with incomes 200% above the poverty line receive benefits. California state and local governments spent nearly $958 billion from 1992 through 2015 on public welfare programs, including cash-assistance payments, vendor payments and “other public welfare,” according to the Census Bureau. California, with 12% of the American population, is home today to about one in three of the nation’s welfare recipients....
So it is not 33% of those in poverty, but 33% of those receiving public assistance of some fashion at one level of the government or another.
So it is not 33% of those in poverty, but 33% of those receiving public assistance of some fashion at one level of the government or another.
You must have speed read over this part of my post.....Several state and municipal benefit programs overlap with one another; in some cases, individuals with incomes 200% above the poverty line receive benefits. California state and local governments spent nearly $958 billion from 1992 through 2015 on public welfare programs, including cash-assistance payments, vendor payments and “other public welfare,” according to the Census Bureau.
You were doing so good until you rewrote history.Let's hope not. You should start a secession movement. If CA secedes and the criminal central government doesn't kill and destroy to keep you, but let's you go peacefully unlike Dishonest Abe, maybe the Empire will die too.I have lived in California for eight decades.
I have seen many changes, to say the least.
I do NOT feel that the Golden State is a _____.
I DO feel, however, that California is a harbinger of what the United States of America will eventually become.
Win-win for all Americans.
Nothing you post is trust worthy.You must have speed read over this part of my post.Drilling as instructed, I see the following in the SPM columns of Table 4:
The assertion in your thread title (prior to it and another thread being merged into the current thread) is that "Californians are 33% of US on Welfare," and that is the assertion with which I took exception and that I provided data to show is simply not so. Even using the data in Table 4, it's not so: 7.96/48.82 ≈ 0.15, or ~15%, which doesn't rise even to half of 33%.
- Total quantity of recipients: ~47.82M
- Total quantity of recipients in CA: ~7.96
Why is liberal California the poverty capital of America?
It’s not as though California policymakers have neglected to wage war on poverty. Sacramento and local governments have spent massive amounts in the cause. Several state and municipal benefit programs overlap with one another; in some cases, individuals with incomes 200% above the poverty line receive benefits. California state and local governments spent nearly $958 billion from 1992 through 2015 on public welfare programs, including cash-assistance payments, vendor payments and “other public welfare,” according to the Census Bureau. California, with 12% of the American population, is home today to about one in three of the nation’s welfare recipients....
So it is not 33% of those in poverty, but 33% of those receiving public assistance of some fashion at one level of the government or another.So it is not 33% of those in poverty, but 33% of those receiving public assistance of some fashion at one level of the government or another.
Is that really where you want to go?
You must have speed read over this part of my post.....Several state and municipal benefit programs overlap with one another; in some cases, individuals with incomes 200% above the poverty line receive benefits. California state and local governments spent nearly $958 billion from 1992 through 2015 on public welfare programs, including cash-assistance payments, vendor payments and “other public welfare,” according to the Census Bureau.
I didn't see that the SPM document addresses state and local benefits that consist of sums not provided by the federal government, so I opted not to wade into that murky water, as it were.
This is the result of liberalism gone wild. No other state should be required to support California by way of taxation.
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Beautiful California has gone from red to deep blue and from rich to poor. In fact, it’s the poorest state in the union. The state is now the poverty capital of America.
The California state and local governments spent nearly $958 billion from 1992 through 2015 on public welfare programs, including cash-assistance payments, vendor payments, and other “public welfare” according to Census Bureau.
In an op-ed by Kerry Jackson for the LA Times, the author reports that California, with 12% of the nation’s population, California also has a disproportionate one in three welfare recipients. The generous spending meant to reduce poverty appears to have increased it, she observes.
Why California Is the Poverty Capital of America! It’s About the $958 Billion
I don't hate Californians. I hate California's government, Washington politicians and intolerant liberal 'professors'. Very few Hollywood movies are worth a shit these days. Hollywood stars do not turn me on and have no better political opinions than Joe the Plumber.This is the result of liberalism gone wild. No other state should be required to support California by way of taxation.
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Beautiful California has gone from red to deep blue and from rich to poor. In fact, it’s the poorest state in the union. The state is now the poverty capital of America.
The California state and local governments spent nearly $958 billion from 1992 through 2015 on public welfare programs, including cash-assistance payments, vendor payments, and other “public welfare” according to Census Bureau.
In an op-ed by Kerry Jackson for the LA Times, the author reports that California, with 12% of the nation’s population, California also has a disproportionate one in three welfare recipients. The generous spending meant to reduce poverty appears to have increased it, she observes.
Why California Is the Poverty Capital of America! It’s About the $958 Billion
Another hater and jealous.....Poverty rate doesn't mean much otherwise Turkmenistan is better ranked better than the US and Germany for example.
Those who are poor in California are wealthy compared to most of the inhabitants of the flyover states.
Stop hating on us, we make most of the stuff you enjoy From shows, movies, technology, food, etc....Go to Church and follow the scripture of not being mean and hateful.
I love California wine, walnuts, artichokes, kiwis, plums, celery, garlic, cauliflower, spinach, carrots, and beautiful women.
I am not mean and hateful. I am admittedly harsh in the art of criticism and occasionally vulgar.
...and yes, I love you too.
California is still a SHITHOLE!
No California, by far is the best state in the union. We also think red states are shit holes...but to each his own. Let us enjoy our state and run it the way we want. In the mean time we were at the beach yesterday it 82 and yes we were swimming. Please don't hate us for that too.
I live in Santa Monica myself and I love the fact we have Latinos here, great people.This is the result of liberalism gone wild. No other state should be required to support California by way of taxation.
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Beautiful California has gone from red to deep blue and from rich to poor. In fact, it’s the poorest state in the union. The state is now the poverty capital of America.
The California state and local governments spent nearly $958 billion from 1992 through 2015 on public welfare programs, including cash-assistance payments, vendor payments, and other “public welfare” according to Census Bureau.
In an op-ed by Kerry Jackson for the LA Times, the author reports that California, with 12% of the nation’s population, California also has a disproportionate one in three welfare recipients. The generous spending meant to reduce poverty appears to have increased it, she observes.
Why California Is the Poverty Capital of America! It’s About the $958 Billion
I don't hate Californians. I hate California's government, Washington politicians and intolerant liberal 'professors'. Very few Hollywood movies are worth a shit these days. Hollywood stars do not turn me on and have no better political opinions than Joe the Plumber.This is the result of liberalism gone wild. No other state should be required to support California by way of taxation.
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Beautiful California has gone from red to deep blue and from rich to poor. In fact, it’s the poorest state in the union. The state is now the poverty capital of America.
The California state and local governments spent nearly $958 billion from 1992 through 2015 on public welfare programs, including cash-assistance payments, vendor payments, and other “public welfare” according to Census Bureau.
In an op-ed by Kerry Jackson for the LA Times, the author reports that California, with 12% of the nation’s population, California also has a disproportionate one in three welfare recipients. The generous spending meant to reduce poverty appears to have increased it, she observes.
Why California Is the Poverty Capital of America! It’s About the $958 Billion
Another hater and jealous.....Poverty rate doesn't mean much otherwise Turkmenistan is better ranked better than the US and Germany for example.
Those who are poor in California are wealthy compared to most of the inhabitants of the flyover states.
Stop hating on us, we make most of the stuff you enjoy From shows, movies, technology, food, etc....Go to Church and follow the scripture of not being mean and hateful.
I love California wine, walnuts, artichokes, kiwis, plums, celery, garlic, cauliflower, spinach, carrots, and beautiful women.
I am not mean and hateful. I am admittedly harsh in the art of criticism and occasionally vulgar.
...and yes, I love you too.
California is still a SHITHOLE!
No California, by far is the best state in the union. We also think red states are shit holes...but to each his own. Let us enjoy our state and run it the way we want. In the mean time we were at the beach yesterday it 82 and yes we were swimming. Please don't hate us for that too.
Mexifornia is a great place for filthy lowlifes...there's an anything goes free for all sort of vibe here that bottom feeders really love. Sure Hwy 1 and the immediate coastal areas are beautiful, where I live is beautiful, northern Cali is still beautiful....anywhere that wetbacks can't afford to be is still beautiful. Anywhere they can afford to be (packing three families to a three bedroom) has been completely beanerized and is a disgusting shithole....PERIOD! I live here, I own real estate here...I KNOW. Watching our local news here tells the tale...very few people interviewed can even speak basic English....we refer to our local news as Wetbacks Gone Wild...no bullshit. Good people can't send their kids to public schools as they're completely overwhelmed with silver tooth anchor babies. Little academics are taught as these kids get their parenting from teachers and the school...the curriculum is more about teaching kids English because they aren't taught it in their homes.
I live on the beach in south Orange County...thank God beaners can't even afford the gas in my area...I have friends that live on north Orange County beaches, Huntington and Newport where all the beaners go on weekends...the locals there walk the beach after the weekend picking up dirty diapers, Bud Light cans and the like left by wetbacks...nobody else does that shit.
Bottom line...if you're a filthy bottom feeding wetback, a drug addict, a general lowlife, a pole puffer, a man in a dress...etc you will probably fall in love with Southern Mexifornia.
To bad you guys are infested with regressivesI live in Santa Monica myself and I love the fact we have Latinos here, great people.This is the result of liberalism gone wild. No other state should be required to support California by way of taxation.
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Beautiful California has gone from red to deep blue and from rich to poor. In fact, it’s the poorest state in the union. The state is now the poverty capital of America.
The California state and local governments spent nearly $958 billion from 1992 through 2015 on public welfare programs, including cash-assistance payments, vendor payments, and other “public welfare” according to Census Bureau.
In an op-ed by Kerry Jackson for the LA Times, the author reports that California, with 12% of the nation’s population, California also has a disproportionate one in three welfare recipients. The generous spending meant to reduce poverty appears to have increased it, she observes.
Why California Is the Poverty Capital of America! It’s About the $958 Billion
I don't hate Californians. I hate California's government, Washington politicians and intolerant liberal 'professors'. Very few Hollywood movies are worth a shit these days. Hollywood stars do not turn me on and have no better political opinions than Joe the Plumber.This is the result of liberalism gone wild. No other state should be required to support California by way of taxation.
*****************
Beautiful California has gone from red to deep blue and from rich to poor. In fact, it’s the poorest state in the union. The state is now the poverty capital of America.
The California state and local governments spent nearly $958 billion from 1992 through 2015 on public welfare programs, including cash-assistance payments, vendor payments, and other “public welfare” according to Census Bureau.
In an op-ed by Kerry Jackson for the LA Times, the author reports that California, with 12% of the nation’s population, California also has a disproportionate one in three welfare recipients. The generous spending meant to reduce poverty appears to have increased it, she observes.
Why California Is the Poverty Capital of America! It’s About the $958 Billion
Another hater and jealous.....Poverty rate doesn't mean much otherwise Turkmenistan is better ranked better than the US and Germany for example.
Those who are poor in California are wealthy compared to most of the inhabitants of the flyover states.
Stop hating on us, we make most of the stuff you enjoy From shows, movies, technology, food, etc....Go to Church and follow the scripture of not being mean and hateful.
I love California wine, walnuts, artichokes, kiwis, plums, celery, garlic, cauliflower, spinach, carrots, and beautiful women.
I am not mean and hateful. I am admittedly harsh in the art of criticism and occasionally vulgar.
...and yes, I love you too.
California is still a SHITHOLE!
No California, by far is the best state in the union. We also think red states are shit holes...but to each his own. Let us enjoy our state and run it the way we want. In the mean time we were at the beach yesterday it 82 and yes we were swimming. Please don't hate us for that too.
Mexifornia is a great place for filthy lowlifes...there's an anything goes free for all sort of vibe here that bottom feeders really love. Sure Hwy 1 and the immediate coastal areas are beautiful, where I live is beautiful, northern Cali is still beautiful....anywhere that wetbacks can't afford to be is still beautiful. Anywhere they can afford to be (packing three families to a three bedroom) has been completely beanerized and is a disgusting shithole....PERIOD! I live here, I own real estate here...I KNOW. Watching our local news here tells the tale...very few people interviewed can even speak basic English....we refer to our local news as Wetbacks Gone Wild...no bullshit. Good people can't send their kids to public schools as they're completely overwhelmed with silver tooth anchor babies. Little academics are taught as these kids get their parenting from teachers and the school...the curriculum is more about teaching kids English because they aren't taught it in their homes.
I live on the beach in south Orange County...thank God beaners can't even afford the gas in my area...I have friends that live on north Orange County beaches, Huntington and Newport where all the beaners go on weekends...the locals there walk the beach after the weekend picking up dirty diapers, Bud Light cans and the like left by wetbacks...nobody else does that shit.
Bottom line...if you're a filthy bottom feeding wetback, a drug addict, a general lowlife, a pole puffer, a man in a dress...etc you will probably fall in love with Southern Mexifornia.
I dont think that is a fair and accurate assessment of Xelors posts.Nothing you post is trust worthy.I didn't see that the SPM document addresses state and local benefits that consist of sums not provided by the federal government, so I opted not to wade into that murky water, as it were.You must have speed read over this part of my post.....Several state and municipal benefit programs overlap with one another; in some cases, individuals with incomes 200% above the poverty line receive benefits. California state and local governments spent nearly $958 billion from 1992 through 2015 on public welfare programs, including cash-assistance payments, vendor payments and “other public welfare,” according to the Census Bureau.
There's a study linked in a previous post that shows Californication to be ranked 25th in quality of health care.Shithole or not...you can't beat the medical care in Calif. Fact.
No other state should be required to support California by way of taxation.
You are ignorant. California is world's 6th largest economy and a donor state for America.
Federal Taxing and Spending Benefit Some States, Leave Others Paying Bill - Tax Foundation
And if we get California out they would drop to 34, people would leave in droves more then they do now.
More bullshit - California has the highest population density in the states and is still growing in population. Take your droves falsehood and shove it.
I have never been in California-------all I know is of that state is of grapes and luxurious mansions.
Are there slums?
-Higher cost of living does not equate to higher standard of living.Lol,
Califorina is a first world state next to most of the south.
-Higher standard of living
-Higher quality education
-Higher quality healthcare
You fucking cave men are so stupid that you probably should go back to school. idiot.
-Low average IQ does not equate to higher quality education (California is third from the BOTTOM).
-California ranks 25th in healthcare.
California is a shithole.
2017’s Best & Worst States for Health Care