Why did the Indians agree to go to the reservations?

[rupol2000]

That gave the native Americans citizenship. It did not start the reservation system.

Did I say that?

 

[WinterBorn]

But this is not relevant. Indians were citizens at that time

They were not US citizens in many cases until 1925. But none of that is relevant. They had been being herded on to reservations since the 1820s.

 

[WinterBorn]

Did I say that?

You said Roosevelt started the reservation system.

 

[rupol2000]

Also, it would have been difficult for Roosevelt to have signed the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, when he did not become president until 1933. Calvin Coolidge signed the act.

you fucking moron, have you gorged yourself on cheap alcohol?

Indian Reorganization Act - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[WinterBorn]

you fucking moron, have you gorged yourself on cheap alcohol?

Indian Reorganization Act - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

LMAO!! Getting pissy because I present you with facts?

 

[rupol2000]

2 questions:

1) Why do they not distinguish between Eskimos Na-Dene and Indians?

2) Did the Navajo/Dene reservations exist in the same form before Roosevelt?

 

[rupol2000]

How do they explain that the Eskimos migrated so far south? Do they tolerate southern climates?

 

[JGalt]

You can think he did all you want. But the Indian Treaties, and Laws and Regulations Relating to Indian Affairs in 1825 and the Indian Removal Act of 1830 were where the reservation system started.

Man, it doesn't matter what you say because Rupol is still going to argue with you. He's the Russian expert in all things having to do with America.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

It wasn't Roosevelt who created the reservations, it was Andrew Jackson. The Indian Removal Act was signed by him and allowed the government to divide land west of the Mississippi to give to Indian tribes in exchange for the land they'd lost.

The Indians had no choice in the matter, and it was pretty much done at gunpoint.

 

[WinterBorn]

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That was one of the most heinous acts our govt has ever been a part of.

There was a Remove the Stain Act introduced in 2019. I don't recall ever seeing the results or if it passed. It was to rescind the Medals of Honor for the Wounded Knee massacre.

Thank you for reminding us of this debacle, Mike.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Man, it doesn't matter what you say because Rupol is still going to argue with you. He's the Russian expert in all things having to do with America.

the guy?....is a dipshit.....

 

[francoHFW]

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the Calvary lol?

 

[rupol2000]

Honor for the Wounded Knee massacre.

Roosevelt is just the successor of this case, a federalist and a communist litter.

 

[WinterBorn]

Roosevelt is just the successor of this case, a federalist and a communist litter.

Roosevelt is the successor of the massacre at Wounded Knee?

 

[rupol2000]

Roosevelt is the successor of the massacre at Wounded Knee?

Stop. It looks like a scam. Sioux Indians invaders of the Great Plains, they come from the Southeast. Who lived there before them?

 

[rupol2000]

The Sioux Indians were bloodthirsty, they killed Bisons. They are not herdsmen, but peasants. These are either invaders or colonists who came to the Great Plains in the 17th century. Most likely, the original inhabitants tried to force them out of there - cowboys of Indian origin, which is why we are talking about cavalry there.

 

[WinterBorn]

Stop. It looks like a scam. Sioux Indians invaders of the Great Plains, they come from the Southeast. Who lived there before them?

A scam? 250 Lakota were murdered by the US Cavalry. Half of those killed were women and children. That is not a scam, it is a massacre.

The fact that 20 of the soldiers received the Medal of Honor made things even worse. It is a stain on the US Army's record.


Roosevelt giving American citizenship to native Americans, and even putting Eskimos on reservations, pales in comparison.

 

[WinterBorn]

Stop. It looks like a scam. Sioux Indians invaders of the Great Plains, they come from the Southeast. Who lived there before them?

And the Sioux never lived in the southeast. They were originally Minnesota, Iowa and Wisconsin, and later migrated to the great plains.

 

[WinterBorn]

The Sioux Indians were bloodthirsty, they killed Bisons. They are not herdsmen, but peasants. These are either invaders or colonists who came to the Great Plains in the 17th century. Most likely, the original inhabitants tried to force them out of there - cowboys of Indian origin, which is why we are talking about cavalry there.

They were hunters. They killed enough bison to provide for their tribe. It was not until the white men got to the plains that the true meaning of "bloodthirsty" was known.

 

[WinterBorn]

The Sioux Indians were bloodthirsty, they killed Bisons. They are not herdsmen, but peasants. These are either invaders or colonists who came to the Great Plains in the 17th century. Most likely, the original inhabitants tried to force them out of there - cowboys of Indian origin, which is why we are talking about cavalry there.

And Wounded Knee was on the Pine Ridge reservation. The Lakota tribe had already been pacified and put on the reservation. And FYI, the Pine Ridge reservation was in South Dakota.