Why didn't House Democrats follow normal protocol to call impeachment witnesses?

[Ame®icano]

They issued a subpoena to Mulvaney, who refused to comply. Clearly, Executive Privilege could be used as the reason. But Trump's attorneys argue that the subpoena was invalid because the underlying reason for issuing it was the "impeachment inquiry", but the problem with that is Nazi Pelousy never held the required vote to implement an impeachment inquiry.

The reason for refusing to comply doesn't matter. Normal protocol when a subpoena is denied is to take it to the courts to get a ruling.

Why didn't Nazi and her House Clowns follow normal protocol? The withdrew the Muclvaney subpeona and did not go to court. Instead, they rushed a vote and are now over at the Senate begging jurors to conduct an investigation that was their responsibility.

Board Dimwingers refuse to acknowledge the responsibility for not having the witnesses they now claim is crucial to their "overwhelming" case is on the House Clowns. Not Trump. Not the Senate.

Once again, don't argue whether or not the reason for challenging the subpoena is valid. That will get nothing done here. That's is now a question for the courts. Dimwingers refused to go to the courts.

So stop trying to blame Trump and the Senate for the failures of your House Clowns to do their job.

House subpoena for the Fast and Furious documents was issued in 2011. Barry asserted executive privilege and it went to court, that settled the case mid last year. Since House was taken over by Dems, the case was pushed under the rug. What important is that there was the procedure in place, and it was followed.

I have no clue why Dems didn't follow the procedure. IMO, they wanted to create the scandal and hope to somehow damage Trumps chances to be re-elected. They also tried to delegitimatize Senate for being "partisan", while ignoring their own partisanship. They rush to impeach without case against Trump, just to hold the Articles for more than a month before sending it to Senate. I suspect they used that pause to pressure Senate into changing rules that would be favorable to them and they used media as megaphone for their intentions.

The Obama admin released thousands of documents related to F&F right away. Others were held under privilege. It went to court and 2 years later some sixty thousand documents were released.

Trump has outright refused to release anything and has not invoked executive privilege even once.

No comparison.

Then, why House didn't go to court?

Without even mentioning any crimes, there was dead body of US Customs agent as result of the Fast & Furious. No comparison, right?

 

[Mac-7]

I would view it as "corruption" if Trump had asked the Ukrainian President to make up something bad about Joe Biden that he could then use against him in a political race...you know...like the Democrats actually DID to Trump with the Steele dossiers? Trump didn't do that though...did he? He simply asked the Ukrainian President to investigate what the Biden's had been doing. He also asked the Ukrainian President to look into collusion between the Democrats and Ukrainians in that last Presidential election. Once again...he didn't ask them to make up something...Trump simply asked his Ukrainian counterpart to investigate. That's where the left's narrative of "corruption" simply falls on it's face! Since when is it corrupt to ask for an investigation into apparent corruption?

Allegations surrounding the Bidens are already "made up". Made up by Trump himself. He was simply trying to make it look more true, official and nefarious by having a foreign govt back his narrative.

Where are the investigations?

https://nypost.com/2019/11/15/obama-administration-knew-hunter-biden-was-shady-witness-admits/

In Congressional testimony Friday, former Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch confirmed for Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-NY), that in 2016 the Obama State Department privately ran her through a series of practice questions and answers to prepare Yovanovitch for her Senate confirmation hearing.

Stefanik confirmed that one specific question Yovanovitch was asked to prepare for was, “What can you tell us about Hunter Biden’s being named to the board of Burisma?” Incredibly, Yovanovitch later testified that the State Department told her to deflect any questions she might get about Hunter Biden and Burisma by referring Senators’ questions to the vice president’s office.

This admission regarding her senate confirmation prep session was startling, and it flatly contradicted a prior statement Yovanovitch had made in the hearing: “Although I have met former vice president several times over the course of our many years in government service, neither he nor the previous administration ever raised the issue of either Burisma or Hunter Biden with me.”

Your point?

Where's the investigations?

I wonder if you have ever complained that the little guy gets punished while the rich and powerful do not?

I bet you have so you already know the answer to you question

I wonder WTF that has to do with my post.

It has everything “the fuck” to do with your post

biden skated because he’s a big shot inside washington swamp rat

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Yes they do. However, this is the first time a President tried to coerced a foreign nation into announcing investigations into his domestic political rivals with our foreign aid.

It's corruption. Trumpublicans apparently accept that type of corruption.

That's okay Democrats accept the corruption of lying about getting a blow job so........it's all equal, right?

I would view it as "corruption" if Trump had asked the Ukrainian President to make up something bad about Joe Biden that he could then use against him in a political race...you know...like the Democrats actually DID to Trump with the Steele dossiers? Trump didn't do that though...did he? He simply asked the Ukrainian President to investigate what the Biden's had been doing. He also asked the Ukrainian President to look into collusion between the Democrats and Ukrainians in that last Presidential election. Once again...he didn't ask them to make up something...Trump simply asked his Ukrainian counterpart to investigate. That's where the left's narrative of "corruption" simply falls on it's face! Since when is it corrupt to ask for an investigation into apparent corruption?

Allegations surrounding the Bidens are already "made up". Made up by Trump himself. He was simply trying to make it look more true, official and nefarious by having a foreign govt back his narrative.

Where are the investigations?

Be specific. What exactly is made up?

The allegations of corruption. I was clear about that.

How many people or sons of Vice Presidents do you know of who made $84,000 bucks per month doing a job they had no knowledge of in a company overseas? What do they have to hide? If they have nothing to hide they will happily testify right? Prove their innocence right?

You have no idea of what his role was.
You're only supposing there was corruption.

 

[Nostra]

It's "made up" that Hunter Biden was being paid large sums of money for a job he had zero qualifications for other than being the son of the man who was in charge of the Ukraine for the US Government? With all due respect, Hutch...you don't have to make that look "nefarious" because it's rather obvious what Burisma was up to.

You're making accusations based on suppisition.
You still have yet to show corruption.

The corruption is obvious. Just because it isn't illegal doesn't make it any less corrupt.

Your allegations are obvious. There actually is no evidence of corruption.

Evidence:

Crackhead Biden was paid millions for a no-show job he wasn't qualified for.
Quid Pro Joe had the prosecutor investigating that company fired by extorting the country with US Tax dollars.

Just because you are such a ginormous hack you won't admit that is evidence of corruption doesn't mean it isn't

You have no idea of what H Biden is qualified for or what his role was on the board.
There was no investigation, fool.

The Crackhead admitting in an interview he had no experience and was hired because of his last name, moron.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Allegations surrounding the Bidens are already "made up". Made up by Trump himself. He was simply trying to make it look more true, official and nefarious by having a foreign govt back his narrative.

Where are the investigations?

https://nypost.com/2019/11/15/obama-administration-knew-hunter-biden-was-shady-witness-admits/

In Congressional testimony Friday, former Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch confirmed for Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-NY), that in 2016 the Obama State Department privately ran her through a series of practice questions and answers to prepare Yovanovitch for her Senate confirmation hearing.

Stefanik confirmed that one specific question Yovanovitch was asked to prepare for was, “What can you tell us about Hunter Biden’s being named to the board of Burisma?” Incredibly, Yovanovitch later testified that the State Department told her to deflect any questions she might get about Hunter Biden and Burisma by referring Senators’ questions to the vice president’s office.

This admission regarding her senate confirmation prep session was startling, and it flatly contradicted a prior statement Yovanovitch had made in the hearing: “Although I have met former vice president several times over the course of our many years in government service, neither he nor the previous administration ever raised the issue of either Burisma or Hunter Biden with me.”

Your point?

Where's the investigations?

I wonder if you have ever complained that the little guy gets punished while the rich and powerful do not?

I bet you have so you already know the answer to you question

I wonder WTF that has to do with my post.

It has everything “the fuck” to do with your post

biden skated because he’s a big shot inside washington swamp rat

"Skated" from what?
Who and how much a company's board pays to be a member is their business and is not evidence of corruption.
Can you point to a corrupt act?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

You're making accusations based on suppisition.
You still have yet to show corruption.

The corruption is obvious. Just because it isn't illegal doesn't make it any less corrupt.

Your allegations are obvious. There actually is no evidence of corruption.

Evidence:

Crackhead Biden was paid millions for a no-show job he wasn't qualified for.
Quid Pro Joe had the prosecutor investigating that company fired by extorting the country with US Tax dollars.

Just because you are such a ginormous hack you won't admit that is evidence of corruption doesn't mean it isn't

You have no idea of what H Biden is qualified for or what his role was on the board.
There was no investigation, fool.

The Crackhead admitting in an interview he had no experience and was hired because of his last name, moron.

And that is corrupt?

 

[Nostra]

If it wasn't corrupt...then why did Hunter Biden give up the position once what was happening was exposed? What you claim now is laughable, Hutch! It's obvious that there was a pay off made by Burisma to buy favor with the Vice President of the United States.

The only thing that's obvious is your willingness to believe mere suggestions as fact. You're the exact dopey demographic Trump was hoping to co-opt into spreading his narrative.

So it's a "suggestion" of corruption to point out that Hunter Biden was getting paid what he did for a job he knew nothing about? Really, Hutch?

Yes. Exactly.
Because you have no actual evidence of wrongdoing or of even what his role was on the board.

He didn't actually HAVE a role on the board...you buffoon! He got paid TO DO NOTHING!!!! What part of this concept don't you get?

You have no way of knowing that, dope.

Yes, we do. The founder of Burisma said it was just a "ceremonial" job.

You really don't know this subject at all, moron.

 

[Nostra]

The corruption is obvious. Just because it isn't illegal doesn't make it any less corrupt.

Your allegations are obvious. There actually is no evidence of corruption.

Evidence:

Crackhead Biden was paid millions for a no-show job he wasn't qualified for.
Quid Pro Joe had the prosecutor investigating that company fired by extorting the country with US Tax dollars.

Just because you are such a ginormous hack you won't admit that is evidence of corruption doesn't mean it isn't

You have no idea of what H Biden is qualified for or what his role was on the board.
There was no investigation, fool.

The Crackhead admitting in an interview he had no experience and was hired because of his last name, moron.

And that is corrupt?

Yes, whey your Daddy is VP and controls the money we give to that country, idiot.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

They issued a subpoena to Mulvaney, who refused to comply. Clearly, Executive Privilege could be used as the reason. But Trump's attorneys argue that the subpoena was invalid because the underlying reason for issuing it was the "impeachment inquiry", but the problem with that is Nazi Pelousy never held the required vote to implement an impeachment inquiry.

The reason for refusing to comply doesn't matter. Normal protocol when a subpoena is denied is to take it to the courts to get a ruling.

Why didn't Nazi and her House Clowns follow normal protocol? The withdrew the Muclvaney subpeona and did not go to court. Instead, they rushed a vote and are now over at the Senate begging jurors to conduct an investigation that was their responsibility.

Board Dimwingers refuse to acknowledge the responsibility for not having the witnesses they now claim is crucial to their "overwhelming" case is on the House Clowns. Not Trump. Not the Senate.

Once again, don't argue whether or not the reason for challenging the subpoena is valid. That will get nothing done here. That's is now a question for the courts. Dimwingers refused to go to the courts.

So stop trying to blame Trump and the Senate for the failures of your House Clowns to do their job.

The impeachment inquiry was an investigation to see if there was evidence to move to formal impeachment.

Why would they open formal impeachment proceedings before knowing the circumstances of the president's actions and whether impeachment was even warranted?

Oversight and supoena authority still exist in the absence of formal impeachment proceedings.

Nobody cares what your opinion in. Normal protocol when there is a dispute between the two branches is to go to court for a ruling.

The House Clowns didn't do that.

That's not my opinion. That's actually what happened.

No, it isn't. To issue subpoenas related to an impeachment investigation there must first be a vote by the entire house to begin that investigation. That wasn't done.

That is simply not true.
Please show where every House committee investigation started with a full vote.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Your allegations are obvious. There actually is no evidence of corruption.

Evidence:

Crackhead Biden was paid millions for a no-show job he wasn't qualified for.
Quid Pro Joe had the prosecutor investigating that company fired by extorting the country with US Tax dollars.

Just because you are such a ginormous hack you won't admit that is evidence of corruption doesn't mean it isn't

You have no idea of what H Biden is qualified for or what his role was on the board.
There was no investigation, fool.

The Crackhead admitting in an interview he had no experience and was hired because of his last name, moron.

And that is corrupt?

Yes, whey your Daddy is VP and controls the money we give to that country, idiot.

The VP does not control the money, dope.
Unless and only if it were oficial business. Right?

 

[Ame®icano]

They don't really want wittiness's they want the GOP to say no to them so they can call the senate corrupt....

They didn't stop there. If you go back to Senator Warren question, she suggested that even Chief Justice Roberts is corrupted.

Leftist media celebrated Warren's question as brilliant, while in reality, making Roberts to publicly read cynical question about Supreme Court credibility is direct insult to the highest court of the land.

 

[Mac-7]

https://nypost.com/2019/11/15/obama-administration-knew-hunter-biden-was-shady-witness-admits/

In Congressional testimony Friday, former Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch confirmed for Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-NY), that in 2016 the Obama State Department privately ran her through a series of practice questions and answers to prepare Yovanovitch for her Senate confirmation hearing.

Stefanik confirmed that one specific question Yovanovitch was asked to prepare for was, “What can you tell us about Hunter Biden’s being named to the board of Burisma?” Incredibly, Yovanovitch later testified that the State Department told her to deflect any questions she might get about Hunter Biden and Burisma by referring Senators’ questions to the vice president’s office.

This admission regarding her senate confirmation prep session was startling, and it flatly contradicted a prior statement Yovanovitch had made in the hearing: “Although I have met former vice president several times over the course of our many years in government service, neither he nor the previous administration ever raised the issue of either Burisma or Hunter Biden with me.”

Your point?

Where's the investigations?

I wonder if you have ever complained that the little guy gets punished while the rich and powerful do not?

I bet you have so you already know the answer to you question

I wonder WTF that has to do with my post.

It has everything “the fuck” to do with your post

biden skated because he’s a big shot inside washington swamp rat

"Skated" from what?
Who and how much a company's board pays to be a member is their business and is not evidence of corruption.
Can you point to a corrupt act?

With a loser like hunter biden its a very strong indicator that corruption is taking place

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Seriously?
Unfounded allegations of corruption aren't smears?

This isn't a smear?

As Joe Biden competes for a win in Iowa, one GOP senator is already talking about impeaching him

Unfounded? What's unfounded about what the Biden's were doing in the Ukraine? Did they NOT cash in on Joe Biden's position?

Yes unfounded. As in no evidence of corruption.
Present your evidence counselor.
Hunter Biden held a paid board position. That is not evidence of anything nefarious.

What's the first rule of investigating corruption, Hutch? Follow the money!!! The paid board position IS the evidence that something "nefarious" was taking place! Drug addict lawyers from one country that have no experience with energy companies whatsoever...don't get paid huge amounts of money to sit on a board of a company in another country! I'm sorry but that doesn't just "happen"!

Paid board positions are not uncommon. Soliciting people to hold board positions who could be influential in accomplishing the organization's goals is what every board does.

There is no evidence of corruption. Only supposition.

Ah, so you're now claiming that it's "common" to hire a drug addict lawyer with absolutely zero experience in the energy field or in the Ukraine to sit on the board of an energy company in the Ukraine...a position that pays a large sum of money and never requires that the board member step foot in the Ukraine? Care to point out someone else that's been given one of those jobs, Hutch? Since it's common you should be able to name a bunch...right?

I said it's common to have people who could be influential to their goals on the board.
Again. You have no idea of what H Biden's role was. Or what if any actions he nade on behalf of the board.

Corruption is an action.

 

[Nostra]

Evidence:

Crackhead Biden was paid millions for a no-show job he wasn't qualified for.
Quid Pro Joe had the prosecutor investigating that company fired by extorting the country with US Tax dollars.

Just because you are such a ginormous hack you won't admit that is evidence of corruption doesn't mean it isn't

You have no idea of what H Biden is qualified for or what his role was on the board.
There was no investigation, fool.

The Crackhead admitting in an interview he had no experience and was hired because of his last name, moron.

And that is corrupt?

Yes, whey your Daddy is VP and controls the money we give to that country, idiot.

The VP does not control the money, dope.
Unless and only if it were oficial business. Right?

Really?

 

[Nostra]

Unfounded? What's unfounded about what the Biden's were doing in the Ukraine? Did they NOT cash in on Joe Biden's position?

Yes unfounded. As in no evidence of corruption.
Present your evidence counselor.
Hunter Biden held a paid board position. That is not evidence of anything nefarious.

What's the first rule of investigating corruption, Hutch? Follow the money!!! The paid board position IS the evidence that something "nefarious" was taking place! Drug addict lawyers from one country that have no experience with energy companies whatsoever...don't get paid huge amounts of money to sit on a board of a company in another country! I'm sorry but that doesn't just "happen"!

Paid board positions are not uncommon. Soliciting people to hold board positions who could be influential in accomplishing the organization's goals is what every board does.

There is no evidence of corruption. Only supposition.

Ah, so you're now claiming that it's "common" to hire a drug addict lawyer with absolutely zero experience in the energy field or in the Ukraine to sit on the board of an energy company in the Ukraine...a position that pays a large sum of money and never requires that the board member step foot in the Ukraine? Care to point out someone else that's been given one of those jobs, Hutch? Since it's common you should be able to name a bunch...right?

I said it's common to have people who could be influential to their goals on the board.
Again. You have no idea of what H Biden's role was. Or what if any actions he nade on behalf of the board.

Corruption is an action.

He made no "actions". It was strictly a "ceremonial" position.

It was a no-show job, idiot.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

They issued a subpoena to Mulvaney, who refused to comply. Clearly, Executive Privilege could be used as the reason. But Trump's attorneys argue that the subpoena was invalid because the underlying reason for issuing it was the "impeachment inquiry", but the problem with that is Nazi Pelousy never held the required vote to implement an impeachment inquiry.

The reason for refusing to comply doesn't matter. Normal protocol when a subpoena is denied is to take it to the courts to get a ruling.

Why didn't Nazi and her House Clowns follow normal protocol? The withdrew the Muclvaney subpeona and did not go to court. Instead, they rushed a vote and are now over at the Senate begging jurors to conduct an investigation that was their responsibility.

Board Dimwingers refuse to acknowledge the responsibility for not having the witnesses they now claim is crucial to their "overwhelming" case is on the House Clowns. Not Trump. Not the Senate.

Once again, don't argue whether or not the reason for challenging the subpoena is valid. That will get nothing done here. That's is now a question for the courts. Dimwingers refused to go to the courts.

So stop trying to blame Trump and the Senate for the failures of your House Clowns to do their job.

House subpoena for the Fast and Furious documents was issued in 2011. Barry asserted executive privilege and it went to court, that settled the case mid last year. Since House was taken over by Dems, the case was pushed under the rug. What important is that there was the procedure in place, and it was followed.

I have no clue why Dems didn't follow the procedure. IMO, they wanted to create the scandal and hope to somehow damage Trumps chances to be re-elected. They also tried to delegitimatize Senate for being "partisan", while ignoring their own partisanship. They rush to impeach without case against Trump, just to hold the Articles for more than a month before sending it to Senate. I suspect they used that pause to pressure Senate into changing rules that would be favorable to them and they used media as megaphone for their intentions.

The Obama admin released thousands of documents related to F&F right away. Others were held under privilege. It went to court and 2 years later some sixty thousand documents were released.

Trump has outright refused to release anything and has not invoked executive privilege even once.

No comparison.

Then, why House didn't go to court?

Without even mentioning any crimes, there was dead body of US Customs agent as result of the Fast & Furious. No comparison, right?

They did go to court.
Federal Judge Rules Impeachment Inquiry Is Legal


The better question is why is the Trump admin is not cooperating with subpoenas?

 

[Nostra]

They issued a subpoena to Mulvaney, who refused to comply. Clearly, Executive Privilege could be used as the reason. But Trump's attorneys argue that the subpoena was invalid because the underlying reason for issuing it was the "impeachment inquiry", but the problem with that is Nazi Pelousy never held the required vote to implement an impeachment inquiry.

The reason for refusing to comply doesn't matter. Normal protocol when a subpoena is denied is to take it to the courts to get a ruling.

Why didn't Nazi and her House Clowns follow normal protocol? The withdrew the Muclvaney subpeona and did not go to court. Instead, they rushed a vote and are now over at the Senate begging jurors to conduct an investigation that was their responsibility.

Board Dimwingers refuse to acknowledge the responsibility for not having the witnesses they now claim is crucial to their "overwhelming" case is on the House Clowns. Not Trump. Not the Senate.

Once again, don't argue whether or not the reason for challenging the subpoena is valid. That will get nothing done here. That's is now a question for the courts. Dimwingers refused to go to the courts.

So stop trying to blame Trump and the Senate for the failures of your House Clowns to do their job.

House subpoena for the Fast and Furious documents was issued in 2011. Barry asserted executive privilege and it went to court, that settled the case mid last year. Since House was taken over by Dems, the case was pushed under the rug. What important is that there was the procedure in place, and it was followed.

I have no clue why Dems didn't follow the procedure. IMO, they wanted to create the scandal and hope to somehow damage Trumps chances to be re-elected. They also tried to delegitimatize Senate for being "partisan", while ignoring their own partisanship. They rush to impeach without case against Trump, just to hold the Articles for more than a month before sending it to Senate. I suspect they used that pause to pressure Senate into changing rules that would be favorable to them and they used media as megaphone for their intentions.

The Obama admin released thousands of documents related to F&F right away. Others were held under privilege. It went to court and 2 years later some sixty thousand documents were released.

Trump has outright refused to release anything and has not invoked executive privilege even once.

No comparison.

Then, why House didn't go to court?

Without even mentioning any crimes, there was dead body of US Customs agent as result of the Fast & Furious. No comparison, right?

They did go to court.
Federal Judge Rules Impeachment Inquiry Is Legal


The better question is why is the Trump admin is not cooperating with subpoenas?

Howell is a far-left hack appointed by Obama and she worked for Patrick Leahy for 10 years.

Part of that ruling has already been reversed, the rest is still on appeal.

You lose again.

 

[Ame®icano]

They issued a subpoena to Mulvaney, who refused to comply. Clearly, Executive Privilege could be used as the reason. But Trump's attorneys argue that the subpoena was invalid because the underlying reason for issuing it was the "impeachment inquiry", but the problem with that is Nazi Pelousy never held the required vote to implement an impeachment inquiry.

The reason for refusing to comply doesn't matter. Normal protocol when a subpoena is denied is to take it to the courts to get a ruling.

Why didn't Nazi and her House Clowns follow normal protocol? The withdrew the Muclvaney subpeona and did not go to court. Instead, they rushed a vote and are now over at the Senate begging jurors to conduct an investigation that was their responsibility.

Board Dimwingers refuse to acknowledge the responsibility for not having the witnesses they now claim is crucial to their "overwhelming" case is on the House Clowns. Not Trump. Not the Senate.

Once again, don't argue whether or not the reason for challenging the subpoena is valid. That will get nothing done here. That's is now a question for the courts. Dimwingers refused to go to the courts.

So stop trying to blame Trump and the Senate for the failures of your House Clowns to do their job.

House subpoena for the Fast and Furious documents was issued in 2011. Barry asserted executive privilege and it went to court, that settled the case mid last year. Since House was taken over by Dems, the case was pushed under the rug. What important is that there was the procedure in place, and it was followed.

I have no clue why Dems didn't follow the procedure. IMO, they wanted to create the scandal and hope to somehow damage Trumps chances to be re-elected. They also tried to delegitimatize Senate for being "partisan", while ignoring their own partisanship. They rush to impeach without case against Trump, just to hold the Articles for more than a month before sending it to Senate. I suspect they used that pause to pressure Senate into changing rules that would be favorable to them and they used media as megaphone for their intentions.

The Obama admin released thousands of documents related to F&F right away. Others were held under privilege. It went to court and 2 years later some sixty thousand documents were released.

Trump has outright refused to release anything and has not invoked executive privilege even once.

No comparison.

Then, why House didn't go to court?

Without even mentioning any crimes, there was dead body of US Customs agent as result of the Fast & Furious. No comparison, right?

They did go to court.
Federal Judge Rules Impeachment Inquiry Is Legal


The better question is why is the Trump admin is not cooperating with subpoenas?

Was it challenged?

 

[jc456]

They issued a subpoena to Mulvaney, who refused to comply. Clearly, Executive Privilege could be used as the reason. But Trump's attorneys argue that the subpoena was invalid because the underlying reason for issuing it was the "impeachment inquiry", but the problem with that is Nazi Pelousy never held the required vote to implement an impeachment inquiry.

The reason for refusing to comply doesn't matter. Normal protocol when a subpoena is denied is to take it to the courts to get a ruling.

Why didn't Nazi and her House Clowns follow normal protocol? The withdrew the Muclvaney subpeona and did not go to court. Instead, they rushed a vote and are now over at the Senate begging jurors to conduct an investigation that was their responsibility.

Board Dimwingers refuse to acknowledge the responsibility for not having the witnesses they now claim is crucial to their "overwhelming" case is on the House Clowns. Not Trump. Not the Senate.

Once again, don't argue whether or not the reason for challenging the subpoena is valid. That will get nothing done here. That's is now a question for the courts. Dimwingers refused to go to the courts.

So stop trying to blame Trump and the Senate for the failures of your House Clowns to do their job.

The impeachment inquiry was an investigation to see if there was evidence to move to formal impeachment.

Why would they open formal impeachment proceedings before knowing the circumstances of the president's actions and whether impeachment was even warranted?

Oversight and supoena authority still exist in the absence of formal impeachment proceedings.

well wait, didn't the prosecutors bring sworn testimony from 13 witnesses to the floor? The Trump side had no witnesses. didn't need them. what's so unusual about that at a trial? you're truly messed in the head confused dude.

Wha?

what went over your head stu?

It made no sense. There was no itelligible point. Try again

so you ignored the fact that 13 witnesses were called. interesting, and then say it was intelligible. Check your spelling on that word BTW.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Yes unfounded. As in no evidence of corruption.
Present your evidence counselor.
Hunter Biden held a paid board position. That is not evidence of anything nefarious.

What's the first rule of investigating corruption, Hutch? Follow the money!!! The paid board position IS the evidence that something "nefarious" was taking place! Drug addict lawyers from one country that have no experience with energy companies whatsoever...don't get paid huge amounts of money to sit on a board of a company in another country! I'm sorry but that doesn't just "happen"!

Paid board positions are not uncommon. Soliciting people to hold board positions who could be influential in accomplishing the organization's goals is what every board does.

There is no evidence of corruption. Only supposition.

Ah, so you're now claiming that it's "common" to hire a drug addict lawyer with absolutely zero experience in the energy field or in the Ukraine to sit on the board of an energy company in the Ukraine...a position that pays a large sum of money and never requires that the board member step foot in the Ukraine? Care to point out someone else that's been given one of those jobs, Hutch? Since it's common you should be able to name a bunch...right?

I said it's common to have people who could be influential to their goals on the board.
Again. You have no idea of what H Biden's role was. Or what if any actions he nade on behalf of the board.

Corruption is an action.

He made no "actions". It was strictly a "ceremonial" position.

It was a no-show job, idiot.

Well, if he made no actions, then where are the corrupt acts? Simply taking a well paying, dick job is not corruption, dope.