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I just said that the word "cross" is not used in the original Greek to describe the execution device used for his alleged crucifixion.
Once again, that is complete bullshit.
{The term comes from the Latin crucifixio ("fixing to a cross", from the prefix cruci-, from crux ("cross"), + verb figere, "fix or bind fast".)[1]}
You're lying for Allah.
Cross Shape
The horizontal beam of the cross, or transom, could be fixed at the very top of the vertical piece, the upright, to form a T called a tau cross or Saint Anthony's cross. The horizontal beam could also be affixed at some distance below the top, often in a mortise, to form a t-shape called a Latin cross, most often depicted in Christian imagery. Alternatively, the cross could consist of two diagonal beams to form an X also known as the Saint Andrew's cross. A single, vertical wooden stake with no transom at all has also been cited; this is how Jehovah's Witnesses typically describe the device on which Jesus was crucified.
Details and History of Crucifixion
i'm a lawyer first. I have a real problem with those types of constitutional violations. I do. There is no excuse for it and every time we do the witch hunt, we regret it as a society. If there is cause to investigate specific people or specific groups then the "patriot act" gives broad latitude to engage in searches. We have people in all kinds of places with their ears to the ground. it seems to me that when they actually choose to look at the intel, we are able to diffuse pretty much everything. I feel the same way about the loons who talk about their second amendment remedies... dangerous idiots who should be put away.
And notwithstanding your need to make it a dem/repub issue, to me it's a legal issue. And you don't want to get me started on Joe Lieberman.
oh... and i keep telling you, i'm not a neocon. I have no patience for blanket hatred of entire groups of people. Do you see Israelis running around holding "hearings" on radicalization of islam. they know there's radicalization. they know why.
what's to hold hearings on other than to humiliate an entire group of people? i dunno.. maybe where you live isn't as mixed as where i live. we have every type of person imaginable here. and to tell the truth, i think it's wrong for people who demand the protections of the first amendment try to deprive other people of it.
Still using the term "witch hunt" with no proof that is happening. Please back up your statement or stop using it. It is misleading and deceptive. There are hearings on EVERYTHING in congress. It does not mean, much. As far as humiliating entire groups of people, don't you do that when someone disagrees with the lefties? Don't you call them names and try to insult them, personally, while never discussing the issue? A lawyer, I should have expected as much.
witch-hunt also witch hunt (wchhnt)
n.
An investigation carried out ostensibly to uncover subversive activities but actually used to harass and undermine those with differing views.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000
You mean you promote radical islam?? Since the only lies that you are exposing are your own as you make up works of fiction and falsely attribute them to others it would appear that you are talking about yourself. LOL
You have to forgive Uncensored. He's got this twisted Idea that anyone who doesn't hate Islam and Muslims just because it is Islam and they are Muslims, it's because they are "promoting radical Islam".
You have to forgive Bod. She's got this twisted idea that it's "bigoted" to speak out against barbarism, corruption, human rights violations, and oppression.
Wow you actually believe that?? you really are a sicko aren't you??
The concern is there, but the difference in the discussion about it is that I, personally, trust that the NSA, the FBI, and the CIA stay on top of the terrorism issue and their activities are, for good reason, rarely made public. What can I as an individual do? Run around screaming my head off that any day now bin Laden will lob a nuke at us or cringe in fear that the lady coming toward me dressed in Muslim garb has a bomb hidden beneath her gown? Geezus, even Bush warned against becoming overreactive toward Muslim people following the 911 attacks.
Who is overreacting? We are trying to have a "truthful" discussion.
You don't want the truth. And you ARE overreacting. All of you who see evil Muslims behind every tree and a Commie behind every statue in Washington. There will always be people who thrive on fear, and when there is none, they'll stir up some trouble. Anything to remain miserable, which in their contorted minds is equal to happiness.
Wow you actually believe that?? you really are a sicko aren't you??
Feral baboons lack the capacity to grasp sarcasm.
Get thee to a baboonary.
1.) No
2.) I never said they were scum because they were christian, again that's your imagination coming into play.
3.) Why would you be so quick to defend him, before I even say a bad word about him, if you don't support him?
The Sassanid Emperor Khosrau II was not a muslim and his taking of the cross in 614 waswikipedia "In 614 the Sassanid Emperor Khosrau II ("Chosroes") removed the part of the cross as a trophy, when he captured Jerusalem. Thirteen years later, in 628, the Byzantine Emperor Heraclius defeated Khosrau and regained the relic from Shahrbaraz. He placed the cross in Constantinople at first, and took it back to Jerusalem on 21 March 630.[11] Around 1009, Christians in Jerusalem hid part of the cross and it remained hidden until the city was taken by the European knights of the First Crusade. Arnulf Malecorne, the first Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem, had the Greek Orthodox priests who were in possession of the Cross tortured in order to reveal its position.[12] The relic that Arnulf discovered was a small fragment of wood embedded in a golden cross, and it became the most sacred relic of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem, with none of the controversy that had followed their discovery of the Holy Lance in Antioch. It was housed in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre under the protection of the Latin Patriarch, who marched with it ahead of the army before every battle.
It was captured by Saladin during the Battle of Hattin in 1187, and while some Christian rulers, like Richard the Lionheart [13], Byzantine emperor Isaac II Angelos and Tamar, Queen of Georgia, sought to ransom it from Saladin [14], the cross was not returned and subsequently disappeared from historical records."
before Islam was even a religion.
Also, the Crusades started in 1095 which was almost 100 years before the muslim commander Saladin captured the fragment of the cross.
So your claim that the Crusades were launched in order to fight for the return of Jesus's cross is pure fantasy.
You like that plausible deniablity thing, don't you?
You aren't directly involved so you can pretend to not know about something?
How'd that one work for all the Germans who were forced to walk thru the Concentration Camps after the war and help bury the dead. Did our soldiers buy their denials?
The "original" New Testament was written in Greek; not Latin
And used the word "Tau," which is "cross."
What is your point?
Again, the word "cross" is not used in the original Bible.
Your claim is false.
We know you want to believe that to be the case.
It's kind of undeniable...
It allows you to demonize us as well as all muslims.
Yep, we're so unfair.
These are peaceful, loving people.
Representing the best of values.
Seeking nothing but understanding between all...
Which country were those protests going on? Did you happen to notice that there were no anti-American protesters, US flag burning, etc., during the Egyption protests?
He does't realize that I was a lay Preacher before converting to Islam.You're full of shit.
{Crucifixion was in use particularly among the Seleucids, Carthaginians, and Romans from about the 6th century BC to the 4th century AD. In the year 337, Emperor Constantine I abolished it in the Roman Empire, out of veneration for Jesus Christ, the most famous victim of crucifixion.[2][3] It was also used as a form of execution in Japan for criminals, inflicted also on some Christians.}
Crucifixion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You sure do rely on Wikipedia a lot for your information. And here I thought Wikipedia was just a leftist encyclopedia full of edited facts. At least that's what most righties claim.
So he has meet his match when it comes to debating the Bible.
1.) You're proud of the fact that you're a bigot who hates billions of people based solely on their religion,
2.) Ok mass murder is wrong on all grounds I agree, and am pleasantly surprised that you "only" are a bigot, not a bigot who wants those you're bigoted against killed.
Do a little research and get back with me...
What for? That won't alter the use of "Tau" in the Greek versions.
You mean you promote radical islam??
You like that plausible deniablity thing, don't you?
I like that "factuality" thing. You really wouldn't understand.
You aren't directly involved so you can pretend to not know about something?
What is it that I'm pretending not to know about? Islamic terrorism? Oh wait, that would be you...
How'd that one work for all the Germans who were forced to walk thru the Concentration Camps after the war and help bury the dead. Did our soldiers buy their denials?
They didn't have you there to lie and cover for them. The Muslims are much more lucky....
See what happens when you try to speak for others? You end up looking more the fool than you already look.
Here's a concept - which is something Maggie has no chance of grasping, but I'm confident you can...
My opinion on WHY you defend and support radical Islam is that you share a common enemy with them - Americans.
That little phrase means I'm not "speaking for others."
Try again.
