Why do the conservatives on this board think Bush was a better president than Obama?

[Mr. Shaman]

George Bush contributed greatly to this nation's future by preventing Gore and Kerry from becoming our Commander in Chief.

Yeah.....he was.....

....quite the lil' businessman!!!

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[BlindBoo]

Programming perhaps? Just kidding, maybe!

It's what they do.

Like the sun rises in the east.

 

[BorisTheAnimal]

10 trillion of the debt

sheesh, the loony liberal can't even start off with an honest OP

where bush is better than obama is that he believed in a smaller federal government, not by much, but smaller nonetheless.

I have no problem with the president spending on infrastructure, science and technology. This president is spending on god knows what. That's the problem.

Perhaps it the union payoffs.

 

[BorisTheAnimal]

Good lord....why does the Left assume that ALL money is the Governments thus letting any man keep more of it is an "expenditure"?

Completely backasswards.

You can't really be that dense?

Yes, yes they can. Hello Roo (it's me Bassman)

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Obama has already borrowed more than Bush.
Obama has also continued or expanded just about every Bush policy that He ran against.

Tax breaks do not pay for themselves.

That is perhaps the dumbest statement that you have made. You loons buy into this false nonsense as if it were sent down by God himself. Our economy is still bouncing along the bottom, but tax revenues are up. Where do you think that money comes from?

Tax cuts are absolutely no different than business investing in the business to grow future revenue.

Try, again, Skippy.

It can't be done....​

....with tax-CUTS!!​

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[Yurt]

10 trillion of the debt

sheesh, the loony liberal can't even start off with an honest OP

where bush is better than obama is that he believed in a smaller federal government, not by much, but smaller nonetheless.

I have no problem with the president spending on infrastructure, science and technology. This president is spending on god knows what. That's the problem.

exactly. obama spends just to spend. he has no concept of managing money.

 

[BorisTheAnimal]

10 trillion of the debt

sheesh, the loony liberal can't even start off with an honest OP

where bush is better than obama is that he believed in a smaller federal government, not by much, but smaller nonetheless.

I have no problem with the president spending on infrastructure, science and technology. This president is spending on god knows what. That's the problem.

exactly. obama spends just to spend. he has no concept of managing money.

That's what you get when you have a Doofus with zero private sector or executive experience. It has always been my contention that Senators make lousy presidents.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

"Another day o' kickin' "conservative"-ass, and stackin' 'em like cordwood."​

 

[freedombecki]

Considering Bush is responsible for 10 trillion of the debt and 2008 was the worst year for our economy, I have a hard time believing it.

Practicing fuzzy math again, Billy?

 

[freedombecki]

"Another day o' kickin' "conservative"-ass, and stackin' 'em like cordwood."​

In your dreams, shaman. You haven't done it yet.

 

[BorisTheAnimal]

Considering Bush is responsible for 10 trillion of the debt and 2008 was the worst year for our economy, I have a hard time believing it.

Practicing fuzzy math again, Billy?

"Fuzzy" math? More like missing math. Obunghole racked up more debt in five years than all previous 42 Presidents combined.

 

[buckeye45_73]

"Another day o' kickin' "conservative"-ass, and stackin' 'em like cordwood."​

In your dreams, shaman. You haven't done it yet.

by kicking ass does he mean posting a link to the HuffPo along with some really annoying graphics?

 

[healthmyths]

Considering Bush is responsible for 10 trillion of the debt and 2008 was the worst year for our economy, I have a hard time believing it.

BUSH NEVER WOULD SAY THESE statements that Obama SAID!!!


The biggest differences between Bush and Obama..
Bush GAVE MORE to charities as a % of income.
Bush PAID more as a % in taxes.

Bush NEVER NEVER accused the military of methodically and constantly "air-raiding villages and killing citizens" as Obama did.

Bush NEVER advocated as Obama did:

1) "I'd like higher gas prices.."
2) “Under my plan....electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.
3) : So, if somebody wants to build a coal[electric utility] plant, they can it’s just that it will bankrupt them,!"
4)Told Brazil.."we'll be your best [oil] customer".
5) "I favor single payer insurance".. meaning 1,400 insurance companies stop: paying $100 billion in Fed/state/local taxes as well as LOCAL property taxes.
400,000 employees let go collecting $6 billion in unemployment checks!

PLUS Obama as all other Presidents NEVER FACED what Bush faced in his 8 years... AND I'D like ANY of you to refute these cataclysmic events!

1) Dot.com bust cost $5 trillion in lost market value.. this means every year for 30 years now starting in 2000 the federal revenue is over $66 billion written off against taxes owed.
How many people LOST jobs due to the bust??
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies. More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 -
and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
The dot-com bubble: How to lose $5 trillion ? Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs

2) Did YOU forget that 9/11 occurred and it cost $2 trillion over the next 30 years again $33 billion will NOT BE PAiD.. was that Bush's fault?
Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York!!
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone.
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
The Top 10 Financial Events of the Decade

3) $1 trillion in written off losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history!
The worst Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages. Andrew slammed into South Florida in 1992 as a Category 5. It caused 40 deaths and $30 billion in property damage. More than 250,000 people were left homeless and 82,000 businesses were destroyed or damaged.
Hurricane Katrina ALONE! Year 2005: Hurricanes Katrina and Rita
On August 25, 2005, Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast of the U.S. as a strong Category 3 or low Category 4 storm. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.

Hurricane Rita quickly followed Katrina only to make matters worse. Between the two, more than $200 billion in damage was done. 400,000 jobs were lost and 275,000 homes were destroyed. Many of the jobs and homes were never to be recovered. Hundreds of thousands of people were displaced and over 1,000 were killed and more are missing. The effect on oil and gasoline prices was long-lasting.

400,000 jobs due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita
145,000 jobs in NYC alone due to 9/11
300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts.

Almost 1 million jobs alone from those 3 events

4) Economic terrorist attack 9/18/2008 or how the world almost came to the end at 2pm on 9/18/2008.
How close to entire collapse the ENTIRE world's economy was on 9/18/2008 when an economic terrorist attack occurred..

On Thursday (Sept 18), at 11am the Federal Reserve noticed a tremendous draw-down of money market accounts in the U.S., to the tune of $550 billion was being drawn out in the matter of an hour or two. The Treasury ...estimation is that by 2pm that afternoon, $5.5 trillion would have been drawn out of the money market system of the U.S., would have collapsed the entire economy of the U.S., and within 24 hours the world economy would have collapsed. It would have been the end of our economic system and our political system as we know it."
Zero Hedge: How The World Almost Came To An End At 2PM On September 18

Again all this happened and at the same time the MSM was bashing the President DAILY!

Well, our job is to bash the president, that's what we do." --
Evan Thomas responding to a question on whether the media's unfair to Bush on the TV talk show Inside Washington,
February 2, 2007.Newsweek's Evan Thomas: 'Our Job Is To Bash the President' | NewsBusters

How can one ignore the FACT that $8 trillion in losses are being written off against tax payments?
How can one ignore that near 1 million jobs were lost DUE to those events?
How can one ignore THAT the results of these events have never been widely share because the biased MSM totally bashes Bush FACTS?
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When Bush started 131,785,000 people employed.
At the end of 2008 136,790,000 people employed or

5,000,000 more employed then when he took office.

When Bush took office in 2001 GDP was $12.355,271,000,000
when Bush left office in 2008 GDP was $14,359,490,000,000
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A 16% increase in GDP or $2 TRILLION.

ALL of the above GAINS in GDP and people employed IN SPITE of the 4 major world changing events AND the BASHING by the BIASED MSM!

So PLEASE TELL Me again where the above statements by Obama and events Bush faced EVER were similar???
I dare ANY of you to tell me that ANY of the above didn't occur. I dare any of you to tell me what was Bush's fault?
I dare you to tell me WHAT President in his right mind wants higher gas prices, businesses to go bankrupt, encourage dependence on foreign OIL!
How STUPID!!

 

[Erand7899]

US Government revenue

Income taxes Business taxes GDP

2009 $1,053.5b $34.3b $13,939.0b

2010 $1,090.0b $75.8b $14,508.2b

2011 $1,272.6b $82.5b $14,958.6b

2012 $1,374.5b $82.0b $15,547.4b

2013 $1,521.7b $82.9b $16,202.7b (all figures projected)

 

[healthmyths]

US Government revenue

Income taxes Business taxes GDP

2009 $1,053.5b $34.3b $13,939.0b

2010 $1,090.0b $75.8b $14,508.2b

2011 $1,272.6b $82.5b $14,958.6b

2012 $1,374.5b $82.0b $15,547.4b

2013 $1,521.7b $82.9b $16,202.7b (all figures projected)

So what is your conclusion?

• Year Revenue US Expenditures Surplus/(deficit) GDP in trillions increase/decrease
• 2000 $2.026 Trillion $ 1.789 Trillion $236.2 billion $11.216
• 2001 1.991 1.862 126.6 11.338 1.08%
• 2002 1.853 2.010 (157.8) 11.543 1.81%
• 2003 1.782 2.159 (377.6) 11.836 2.54%
• 2004 1.880 2.252 (412.7) 12.247 3.46%
• 2005 2.153 2.472 (318.3) 12.623 3.07%
• 2006 2.406 2.655 (248.2) 12.959 2.65%
• 2007 2.568 2.728 (160.7) 13.206 1.91%
• 2008 2.524 2.982 (458.6) 13.162 (0.33%)

USDA ERS - International Macroeconomic Data Set