Why Don't Atheists Contribute To Society?

[alang1216]

There is a difference between "atheist" and "secular" organizations.[/QUOTE]

Atheists make up 1.6% of the US population so it is hardly surprising that they don't have very many purely atheist groups and end up in secular organizations.

Atheists do make some serious contributions in some fields: if every atheist left America, we would lose 85 percent of our scientists

On the other hand atheists don't make some serious contributions in other fields: they make up only a fraction of one percent of the US federal prison population.

 

[the_human_being]

When Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, Christian churches gathered up water and toiletries and other basic human needs and handed out to the storm victims. When Ivan hit, they did the same thing. It has happened over and over whenever their has been a natural disaster. Even individual families who have fell victim to home fires, floods, etc., have been helped by the Church.

Where are the atheists in all this?

Why didn't those Christians pray harder to their gods so as to prevent the Hurricane from making landfall?

Why do your gods continue to be serial mass murderers?

Ouch! Too funny!

From what I can see, smell, hear, and touch I have deducted that except for recycling, filtering out and reprocessing the mineral content of their bodies, atheists really are of no value.

Your god is ashamed of you for preaching ignorance and hate.

Why would that be so if, according to you, He doesn't exist?

 

[the_human_being]

You might try Google before you ask stupid questions.

From the American Atheists website, here's a list of non-religious charities who are providing aid and relief to Katrina victims.

American Atheists Home /

Helping the Victims of Katrina…
“All we have is each other…”

AMERICAN ATHEISTS urges all fellow nonbelievers to contribute to the rescue and other humanitarian efforts in the devastating wake of Hurricane Katrina.

A number of secular, non-religious aid organizations are active in this relief campaign. They do not incorporate a religious message in their operations, nor do they proselytize to those in need.

AMERICAN FRIENDS SERVICES COMMITTEE
AMERICAN HUMANIST ASSOCIATION
AMERICAN NATIONAL RED CROSS (Founded by Deist-Unitarian Clara Barton)
AMERICARES
HANDS ON HUMANITY is a project of the Universist Movement. It is operated by Atheists and other secularists, and is concentrating on the Birmingham, Ala. area. It has applied for non-profit status.
The MASONIC SERVICES ASSOCIATION OF NORTH AMERICA has established a Katrina Hurricane Relief fund and accepts on-line donations.
MERCYCORPS
NETWORK FOR GOOD (has numerous listings for helping groups, both religious and secular)
OXFAM AMERICA
SECOND HARVEST
UNITED WAY OF AMERICA
HUMANE SOCIETY OF THE UNITED STATES (Our winged and four-legged friends need help, too!)
PETSMART CHARITIES
If you have been displaced by the Hurricane Katrina tragedy and need employment, and are currently in the Houston, Texas area, Gary may be able to help! His is a family (all proud Atheists) business. He needs a quality bench jeweler for manufacturing and repair. Please be fluent in English and a nonsmoker. Contact Gary at [email protected] or call 713-451-1321

There is a difference between "atheist" and "secular" organizations.

Yes. The OP intent is to query atheists as individuals as to if they have ever actually contributed anything at all toward helping their fellow man. Thus far, the answer has been a very loud "NO".

 

[the_human_being]

There is a difference between "atheist" and "secular" organizations.

Atheists make up 1.6% of the US population so it is hardly surprising that they don't have very many purely atheist groups and end up in secular organizations.

Atheists do make some serious contributions in some fields: if every atheist left America, we would lose 85 percent of our scientists

On the other hand atheists don't make some serious contributions in other fields: they make up only a fraction of one percent of the US federal prison population.[/QUOTE]

The OP has asks nothing at all about what atheists do for a living. One's profession is on the receiving end. One's giving is on the giving end.

 

[the_human_being]

I am an atheist and during a full career in the military, I regularly donated to the Combined Federal Campaign by choice. That was 23 years of donating. I did my part. The initial poster of this topic is an idiot.

Most Americans donate to charitable organizations. The OP is about what atheists personally do to help.

 

[the_human_being]

You must have been one of those shooting at the first responders and looting the stores. It was all over television, even the looting.

Gsmys, I WAS a first responder in Katrina. I worked for Charity hospital, asshole.

So you were also on the RECEIVING end.

 

[the_human_being]

No, I really pay little attention to atheists and certainly never watch Wolf Blitzer.

Oh look. A christian who lies.

What make you think you are the center of anyone's attention? You are a member of one of the very least in numbers of society. There are not enough of you to be important.

 

[the_human_being]

No, I really pay little attention to atheists and certainly never watch Wolf Blitzer.

Yet you seemed concerned that you don't see them. Maybe if you'd pay more attention you'd know what goes on around you. Of course it really is the atheist's fault. There is no icon they wear that says to the world what they are. Would you prefer they wore this?

Were you there? Did you hand out water or do anything at all yourself?

 

[bodecea]

When Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, Christian churches gathered up water and toiletries and other basic human needs and handed out to the storm victims. When Ivan hit, they did the same thing. It has happened over and over whenever their has been a natural disaster. Even individual families who have fell victim to home fires, floods, etc., have been helped by the Church.

Where are the atheists in all this?

You might try Google before you ask stupid questions.

From the American Atheists website, here's a list of non-religious charities who are providing aid and relief to Katrina victims.

American Atheists Home /

Helping the Victims of Katrina…
“All we have is each other…”

AMERICAN ATHEISTS urges all fellow nonbelievers to contribute to the rescue and other humanitarian efforts in the devastating wake of Hurricane Katrina.

A number of secular, non-religious aid organizations are active in this relief campaign. They do not incorporate a religious message in their operations, nor do they proselytize to those in need.

AMERICAN FRIENDS SERVICES COMMITTEE
AMERICAN HUMANIST ASSOCIATION
AMERICAN NATIONAL RED CROSS (Founded by Deist-Unitarian Clara Barton)
AMERICARES
HANDS ON HUMANITY is a project of the Universist Movement. It is operated by Atheists and other secularists, and is concentrating on the Birmingham, Ala. area. It has applied for non-profit status.
The MASONIC SERVICES ASSOCIATION OF NORTH AMERICA has established a Katrina Hurricane Relief fund and accepts on-line donations.
MERCYCORPS
NETWORK FOR GOOD (has numerous listings for helping groups, both religious and secular)
OXFAM AMERICA
SECOND HARVEST
UNITED WAY OF AMERICA
HUMANE SOCIETY OF THE UNITED STATES (Our winged and four-legged friends need help, too!)
PETSMART CHARITIES
If you have been displaced by the Hurricane Katrina tragedy and need employment, and are currently in the Houston, Texas area, Gary may be able to help! His is a family (all proud Atheists) business. He needs a quality bench jeweler for manufacturing and repair. Please be fluent in English and a nonsmoker. Contact Gary at [email protected] or call 713-451-1321

But did any of these actually help anyone? I was down there during Katrina with my church group and saw none of these rep[resented. Were they at a tailgate party or something? Many of the church groups were shown on the news. I saw absolutely no atheists groups shown on the news. Were they afraid of publicity?

So...you are now moving the goal posts. Instead of "atheists" it's now "atheist groups". What atheist groups are there in existance anyways....it's not like they have a multi-million dollar church or anything.

 

[Hollie]

No, I really pay little attention to atheists and certainly never watch Wolf Blitzer.

Oh look. A christian who lies.

What make you think you are the center of anyone's attention? You are a member of one of the very least in numbers of society. There are not enough of you to be important.

There are enough to cause you to open goofy threads like this one.

 

[the_human_being]

When Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, Christian churches gathered up water and toiletries and other basic human needs and handed out to the storm victims. When Ivan hit, they did the same thing. It has happened over and over whenever their has been a natural disaster. Even individual families who have fell victim to home fires, floods, etc., have been helped by the Church.

Where are the atheists in all this?

You might try Google before you ask stupid questions.

From the American Atheists website, here's a list of non-religious charities who are providing aid and relief to Katrina victims.

American Atheists Home /

Helping the Victims of Katrina…
“All we have is each other…”

AMERICAN ATHEISTS urges all fellow nonbelievers to contribute to the rescue and other humanitarian efforts in the devastating wake of Hurricane Katrina.

A number of secular, non-religious aid organizations are active in this relief campaign. They do not incorporate a religious message in their operations, nor do they proselytize to those in need.

AMERICAN FRIENDS SERVICES COMMITTEE
AMERICAN HUMANIST ASSOCIATION
AMERICAN NATIONAL RED CROSS (Founded by Deist-Unitarian Clara Barton)
AMERICARES
HANDS ON HUMANITY is a project of the Universist Movement. It is operated by Atheists and other secularists, and is concentrating on the Birmingham, Ala. area. It has applied for non-profit status.
The MASONIC SERVICES ASSOCIATION OF NORTH AMERICA has established a Katrina Hurricane Relief fund and accepts on-line donations.
MERCYCORPS
NETWORK FOR GOOD (has numerous listings for helping groups, both religious and secular)
OXFAM AMERICA
SECOND HARVEST
UNITED WAY OF AMERICA
HUMANE SOCIETY OF THE UNITED STATES (Our winged and four-legged friends need help, too!)
PETSMART CHARITIES
If you have been displaced by the Hurricane Katrina tragedy and need employment, and are currently in the Houston, Texas area, Gary may be able to help! His is a family (all proud Atheists) business. He needs a quality bench jeweler for manufacturing and repair. Please be fluent in English and a nonsmoker. Contact Gary at [email protected] or call 713-451-1321

But did any of these actually help anyone? I was down there during Katrina with my church group and saw none of these rep[resented. Were they at a tailgate party or something? Many of the church groups were shown on the news. I saw absolutely no atheists groups shown on the news. Were they afraid of publicity?

So...you are now moving the goal posts. Instead of "atheists" it's now "atheist groups". What atheist groups are there in existance anyways....it's not like they have a multi-million dollar church or anything.

Go back and read the posts. I plainly stated "atheists". Some other poster listed all those groups, not I.

 

[the_human_being]

No, I really pay little attention to atheists and certainly never watch Wolf Blitzer.

Oh look. A christian who lies.

What make you think you are the center of anyone's attention? You are a member of one of the very least in numbers of society. There are not enough of you to be important.

There are enough to cause you to open goofy threads like this one.

Angry because it proved my point? Does it prick you because it shows you to not care about your fellow man?

 

[bodecea]

No, I really pay little attention to atheists and certainly never watch Wolf Blitzer.

Oh look. A christian who lies.

What make you think you are the center of anyone's attention? You are a member of one of the very least in numbers of society. There are not enough of you to be important.

And yet...you seem concerned enough to start a post about them.

 

[alang1216]

The OP intent is to query atheists as individuals as to if they have ever actually contributed anything at all toward helping their fellow man. Thus far, the answer has been a very loud "NO".

So your OP was intended to contrast the actions individual atheists with those of churches? Sounds like apples and oranges. Do you have a tally of what individual theists contributed outside of their churches?

 

[bodecea]

No, I really pay little attention to atheists and certainly never watch Wolf Blitzer.

Oh look. A christian who lies.

What make you think you are the center of anyone's attention? You are a member of one of the very least in numbers of society. There are not enough of you to be important.

There are enough to cause you to open goofy threads like this one.

Angry because it proved my point? Does it prick you because it shows you to not care about your fellow man?

Where do you get the proof that Hollie does not care for her fellow man? Link it.

 

[alang1216]

Were you there? Did you hand out water or do anything at all yourself?

I don't recall making any such claim. First, I'm not an atheist (I'm agnostic) and second, I don't live near LA. Not that it matters but I did contribute some relief $ and directly supported the relief effort through my professional work.

 

[Hollie]

No, I really pay little attention to atheists and certainly never watch Wolf Blitzer.

Oh look. A christian who lies.

What make you think you are the center of anyone's attention? You are a member of one of the very least in numbers of society. There are not enough of you to be important.

There are enough to cause you to open goofy threads like this one.

Angry because it proved my point? Does it prick you because it shows you to not care about your fellow man?

You're more than a little bit confused. This thread is nothing more than a demonstration of your religiously inspired intolerance and a fair amount of self-loathing.

 

[alang1216]

There is a difference between "atheist" and "secular" organizations.

Atheists make up 1.6% of the US population so it is hardly surprising that they don't have very many purely atheist groups and end up in secular organizations.

Atheists do make some serious contributions in some fields: if every atheist left America, we would lose 85 percent of our scientists

On the other hand atheists don't make some serious contributions in other fields: they make up only a fraction of one percent of the US federal prison population.

The OP has asks nothing at all about what atheists do for a living. One's profession is on the receiving end. One's giving is on the giving end.[/QUOTE]

Some professions contribute to the advancement of mankind (science) and some do not (crime). You gave examples of how churches provide charity, and no one can dispute that, but can you give some historical examples of how churches made society better by advancing knowledge? Or was all that done in spite of the church?

 

[HUGGY]

Not that many Katrina victims made it up to Washington state.

I ran accoss one that did. His truck needed repair and he asked me to help. Turned out he tred to rob somebody and got himself arrested before the repair could be finished. I believe his truck got towed by the manager of the apartment building his Seattle reletives resided at. Anyway it looked like he got the "assistance" he REALLY needed.

Many of the Katrina "victims" were just comon criminals.

This OP yahoo is a real piece of work....A waste of oxygen.

 

[Carla_Danger]

You might try Google before you ask stupid questions.

From the American Atheists website, here's a list of non-religious charities who are providing aid and relief to Katrina victims.

American Atheists Home /

Helping the Victims of Katrina…
“All we have is each other…”

AMERICAN ATHEISTS urges all fellow nonbelievers to contribute to the rescue and other humanitarian efforts in the devastating wake of Hurricane Katrina.

A number of secular, non-religious aid organizations are active in this relief campaign. They do not incorporate a religious message in their operations, nor do they proselytize to those in need.

AMERICAN FRIENDS SERVICES COMMITTEE
AMERICAN HUMANIST ASSOCIATION
AMERICAN NATIONAL RED CROSS (Founded by Deist-Unitarian Clara Barton)
AMERICARES
HANDS ON HUMANITY is a project of the Universist Movement. It is operated by Atheists and other secularists, and is concentrating on the Birmingham, Ala. area. It has applied for non-profit status.
The MASONIC SERVICES ASSOCIATION OF NORTH AMERICA has established a Katrina Hurricane Relief fund and accepts on-line donations.
MERCYCORPS
NETWORK FOR GOOD (has numerous listings for helping groups, both religious and secular)
OXFAM AMERICA
SECOND HARVEST
UNITED WAY OF AMERICA
HUMANE SOCIETY OF THE UNITED STATES (Our winged and four-legged friends need help, too!)
PETSMART CHARITIES
If you have been displaced by the Hurricane Katrina tragedy and need employment, and are currently in the Houston, Texas area, Gary may be able to help! His is a family (all proud Atheists) business. He needs a quality bench jeweler for manufacturing and repair. Please be fluent in English and a nonsmoker. Contact Gary at [email protected] or call 713-451-1321

There is a difference between "atheist" and "secular" organizations.

Yes. The OP intent is to query atheists as individuals as to if they have ever actually contributed anything at all toward helping their fellow man. Thus far, the answer has been a very loud "NO".

Liar! Pants of fire!