Why don't people want to know the truth about 9/11?

[LA RAM FAN]

The only dipshit here is you numbnuts. The fire chief already acknowledges that Silverstein and he talked about pulling firefighters from the building and surrounding area because of fearing it would collapse. Silverstein ALSO has acknowledged that he WASN'T speaking in demolition terms when he said to pull the building. I think the bad part is that you know you're an idiot.

great rebuttals there. "rolls on floor laughing." as usual,you trolls can only fling shit in defeat like the monkeys you are. Like clockwork,the troll knows he is defeated,so he can only fling shit in defeat as always.

This post illustrates your hypocracy. You're contradicting yourself...
You're stupidity is shining through as bright as ever.

yep your stupidity is shining alright no doubt about that as you keep flinging shit in defeat running away from those two videos. have fun trolling.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Oh lastly Brian troll.Yeah I have read all your ramblings in your past ten posts or so,all you do is keep posting Debwunker links that have been debunked by the book DEBUNINKG THE 9/11 DEBUNKING,an answer to popular mechanics and other defenders of the official conspiracy theory which is all the governments version is.anytime i ask you trolls to read it,you always run off with your tail between your legs since you know you cant refute it.

 

[BrianH]

Oh lastly Brian troll.Yeah I have read all your ramblings in your past ten posts or so,all you do is keep posting Debwunker links that have been debunked by the book DEBUNINKG THE 9/11 DEBUNKING,an answer to popular mechanics and other defenders of the official conspiracy theory which is all the governments version is.anytime i ask you trolls to read it,you always run off with your tail between your legs since you know you cant refute it.

Once again, a ramble that has proven nothing regarding your supposed "conspiracy." Just because you're too lazy to go back and read the links I posted doesn't make me wrong and you right.

You obviously haven't read shit. I posted a link that shows how many engineers and architects there are in the U.S. (10 million). This mathematically shows that your 1450 engineers and architects worldwide are severely outnumbered by the majority of those who have not question the NIST report. If they had, they'd be like the rest of you dildos and post something regarding their disagreement.

Second, I also posted a blogsite made by engineers. There are lists of engineers who support the NIST report.

As far a popular mechanics. I haven't posted one link from popluar mechanics. I DID post a link that had numerous quotes on it...and one small quote happened to have been linked from popular mechanics. So once again you are about 99% wrong.

And what would it matter if I post something from a debunking site? All you post on here is frickin youtube videos and 9/11Truth websites....

As far as you're idiot BFF Dr. Steven Jones- He was relieved from his duties as a professor at BYU. I also posted a link where there were quotes from his own colleagues saying that his work was not viable.....His own co-workers who were just as qualified as he was, saw the evidence at hand, and disagreed with him. And I've already posted links for all this, so don't respond with an evidence request. GO back and do, what I like to call, reading. When you do you'll see how retarded you sound right now.

As far as your "videos," Ollie already picked it apart...once again- You failing to read and ignoring posts.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

you never get enough of these ass beatings,you LOVE to fling shit in defeat like the monkey you are.still no rebutalls to those 2 videos or those two links,just a monkey slinging shit in defeat. have fun with your trolling.sorry but im tired of playing your game,you just keep posting debwunker links that the book i listed has debunked all of.see ya monkey. hate to break your heart but disinfo agent gomer Ollie has NEVER picked apart anything and has NEVER debunked those videos,thats why i put that fellow troll of yours on ignore a long time ago cause just like you,he just keeps repeating outright lies and crap that those videos and that book has been debunked when NONE of you have ever been able to debunk them as we both know.

 

[BrianH]

you never get enough of these ass beatings,you LOVE to fling shit in defeat like the monkey you are.still no rebutalls to those videos or those two links,just a monkey slinging shit in defeat.

Look here dipshit. YOu still haven't rebutted all of the proof that I posted. I don't have to refute an edited video on youtube. I guess everything on the internet is true right? lol. It's funny how you idiots that don't trust the media or government sure trust the media when it comes to this. And you do so by posting mass media news all over this thread....



watch this video idjit. There's a video half-way through of ONE plane on fire in a field. THERE ARE LOUD EXPLOSIONS WELL AFTER THE PLANE HAS CRASHED AND INGITED. There's your explosions dick licker.

There is also mention from firefighters about a secondary device in the area. Of course, the jack-ass truther edited the part of the video in which a firefighter clearly states that there have been reports of a secondary device at a HIGH SCHOOL...not in the WTC. You dumb-asses sit here and believe every youtube video you watch without doing any research to find out if it was edited.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

oh i forgot to mention that of course in YOUR mind,you think gomer debunked them because as we both know,you OCTA'S only see what you WANT to see and hear what you want to hear.your such a moron you not only let the media-a TOOL for the government and the corrupt government institutions brainwash you with their lies and propaganda,but disinfo agents like Gomer as well.

you OCTA'S have the moronic logic that it doesnt matter how many distinguished credible people in their professions say,only what THOSE two say. you obviously slept through junior high science class because you dont know anything about the laws of physics. you are so afraid of the truth,that you want to believe in the government and ignore the laws of physics that scientists have gone by for thousands of years. oh and gomer pylle ollie has only gotten his ass handed to him on a platter by myself,eots and all the other truthers all the time,so you lose your crediblity when you said he debunked anything cause he NEVER Has. you really need to go back to junior high science class.come back and post then when you do.

so AGAIN,have fun slinging shit in defeat like the monkey you are.get in the same cage with Gomer,Im sure you two will REALLY have some fun as monkeys doing that together.

 

[BrianH]

oh i forgot to mention that of course in YOUR mind,you think gomer debunked them because as we both know,you OCTA'S only see what you WANT to see and hear what you want to hear.your such a moron you not only let the media-a TOOL for the government and the corrupt government institutions brainwash you with their lies and propaganda,but disinfo agents like Gomer as well.

you OCTA'S have the moronic logic that it doesnt matter how many distinguished credible people in their professions say,only what THOSE two say. you obviously slept through junior high science class because you dont know anything about the laws of physics. you are so afraid of the truth,that you want to believe in the government and ignore the laws of physics that scientists have gone by for thousands of years. oh and gomer pylle ollie has only gotten his ass handed to him on a platter by myself,eots and all the other truthers all the time,so you lose your crediblity when you said he debunked anything cause he NEVER Has. you really need to go back to junior high science class.come back and post then when you do.

so AGAIN,have fun slinging shit in defeat like the monkey you are.get in the same cage with Gomer,Im sure you two will REALLY have some fun as monkeys doing that together.

So again...you haven't proved anything. Still waiting for you to stop "claiming" that I'm flinging shit and getting my ass beat...especially considering that you have not disproven or even intelligently responded to my posts.

And let me hit you with some more knowledge. (Not that you know what "knowledge means.) As far as "explosions" that were heard at the WTC. Do you have any idea what kind of electrical power grid it takes to supply electricity to these huge skyscrapers. Any electrician will tell you that electricity and fire do not mix. Have you ever heard a transformer blow? (Not the robotic aliens from outerspace, but real transformers?) THEY ARE LOUD. What about all of the electrical switchgears and breakers that experienced arc-flash during this event? (Try youtubing arc-flash videos and maybe you'll learn what an arc-flash is) What about all of the transformers and lines that shorted? These are also very POSSIBLE reasons for explosions being heard at the scene. Aside from the obvious multiple explosions that are proven to come from an aircraft itself....

Still waiting for you to refute anything I have said...All you've done is create a fantasy wonderland in which you believe you have proven something and ,thus, beat my ass with your wisdom.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

ahh I see you decided to get in that cage with Gomer and sling shit in defeat with that other monkey.you did not listen to my advise though,i said dont come back until you went back and studied junior high school science that you slept through.Oh well,i guess frady cat monkeys cant understand EVERYTHING.they do know how to come on constantly and fling shit in defeat all the time though.

oh lastly,just so you know,i have seen gomers pathetic attempts to debunk that video of explosives SEVERAL times in the past.He failed EVERY single time.so I know you are full of shit that he debunked it because he NEVER did in the past and just because YOU say he does,that doesnt make it fact since you yourself have failed to debunk it troll not even trying.lol. just because thats what you WANT to think and believe in,doesnt make it fact.

 

[eots]

I'm sorry but I've been hearing this BS for years. Someone please explain what is so wrong with Popular Mechanics?

The term "yellow journalism" is no longer restricted to newspapers alone, it includes all other forms of media television and radio. *Some of the local newspapers are classic examples of yellow journalism. The expression was popularised in the late 19th Century in the U.S. Two newspapers, "New York World", owned by Joseph Pulitzer, and "New York Journal", owned by William Randolph Hearst, were trying to become very popular among the public by printing sensational stories. Both newspapers specialised in muckraking. The "World" had a popular comic strip called "Hogan's Alley" in which the character "Yellow Kid" appeared. Hearst ...

 

[eots]

 

[SFC Ollie]

So you are making the claim that Popular Mechanics is Yellow Journalism? That they print misleading headlines and made up stories to sell magazines?

I think you are a bit far off on that one.

"To investigate 16 of the most prevalent claims made by conspiracy theorists, POPULAR MECHANICS assembled a team of nine researchers and reporters who, together with PM editors, consulted more than 70 professionals in fields that form the core content of this magazine, including aviation, engineering and the military.

In the end, we were able to debunk each of these assertions with hard evidence and a healthy dose of common sense. We learned that a few theories are based on something as innocent as a reporting error on that chaotic day. Others are the byproducts of cynical imaginations that aim to inject suspicion and animosity into public debate. Only by confronting such poisonous claims with irrefutable facts can we understand what really happened on a day that is forever seared into world history"

9/11 Conspiracy Theories - Debunking the Myths - World Trade Center - Pentagon - Flight 93 - Popular Mechanics

Looks like an investigation to me. Just because you and your comrades don't like it doesn't mean its not right.

 

[eots]

why is a Hearst owned publication given unprecedented access to to government information

 

[eots]

So you are making the claim that Popular Mechanics is Yellow Journalism? That they print misleading headlines and made up stories to sell magazines?

I think you are a bit far off on that one.

"To investigate 16 of the most prevalent claims made by conspiracy theorists, POPULAR MECHANICS assembled a team of nine researchers and reporters who, together with PM editors, consulted more than 70 professionals in fields that form the core content of this magazine, including aviation, engineering and the military.

In the end, we were able to debunk each of these assertions with hard evidence and a healthy dose of common sense. We learned that a few theories are based on something as innocent as a reporting error on that chaotic day. Others are the byproducts of cynical imaginations that aim to inject suspicion and animosity into public debate. Only by confronting such poisonous claims with irrefutable facts can we understand what really happened on a day that is forever seared into world history"

9/11 Conspiracy Theories - Debunking the Myths - World Trade Center - Pentagon - Flight 93 - Popular Mechanics

Looks like an investigation to me. Just because you and your comrades don't like it doesn't mean its not right.

that is because you are a monkey and cant tell an editorial blurb from facts

 

[eots]

they list him as on they consulted but yet he says this



Quintiere said he originally “had high hopes” that NIST would do a good job with the investigation. “They’re the central government lab for fire. There are good people there and they can do a good job. But what I also thought they would do is to enlist the service of the ATF [Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives], which has an investigation force and a laboratory of their own for fire. And I thought they would put people out on the street and get gumshoe-type information. What prevented all of this? I think it’s the legal structure that cloaks the Commerce Department and therefore NIST. And so, instead of lawyers as if they were acting on a civil case trying to get depositions and information subpoenaed, those lawyers did the opposite and blocked everything


“In my opinion, the WTC investigation by NIST falls short of expectations by not definitively finding cause, by not sufficiently linking recommendations of specificity to cause, by not fully invoking all of their authority to seek facts in the investigation, and by the guidance of government lawyers to deter rather than develop fact finding.

OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

 

[SFC Ollie]

why is a Hearst owned publication given unprecedented access to to government information

And what information is that?

And are you saying that they lied about consulting with more than 70 experts?

Or are you just saying if they don't believe in truther BS then they can't be taken serious?

Because if that's the case you really should consider seeking professional help.

 

[eots]

why is a hearst owned publication given unprecedented access to to government information

and what information is that?

And are you saying that they lied about consulting with more than 70 experts?

Or are you just saying if they don't believe in truther bs then they can't be taken serious?

Because if that's the case you really should consider seeking professional help.

they may not of lied in consulting him ..by they lie by implying he supports the nist report or popular mechanics when he so clearly does not

 

[eots]

At least half of the rest of the list of experts is public relations people and magazine editors...lol

 

[SFC Ollie]

Well at least I know where you get this "yellow Journalism" BS from.



Loose change gets spanked by Popular mechanics. All loose change can say is "that's a lie" Sounds like our very own 911 nut job.......

 

[eots]

well at least i know where you get this "yellow journalism" bs from.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stvmemj666m

loose change gets spanked by popular mechanics. All loose change can say is "that's a lie" sounds like our very own 911 nut job.......

it is in the dictionary and cites hearst publications... Moron

you also total avoid the fact that experts they cite may feel the NIST investigation to be a failure that was blocked and fact finding deterred

 

[Gamolon]

http://www.structuremag.org/Archives/2007-11/SF-WTC7-Gilsanz-Nov07.pdf

Read this whole page....
Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition - World Trade Center 7, Building 7

They use the turm "Pull" to describe actually pulling the building away from other buildings so that it doesn't fall a certian direction. This is also illustrated with actual pictures of the cables being used to pull building 6.

Also, it talks about Silverstein's comments to the fire commander about "pulling" building seven. Neither of the two men in the conversation are in the demolition business. The term "pull" in the firefighting community is to literally PULL men from the building. Read the entire page on the site above and notice the HOLES in the conspiracy movement. These modern conspiracist strategically leave out bits and pieces of video and evidence because it will prove them wrong.

hate to break your heart but those firemen were long gone out of there of bld 7 by the time silverstein made that statement.funny how you also ignore that silverstein refers to the firemen-people as It. yeah right. also you still keep flinging shit because you cant debunk Barry Jennings testimony of bld 7 or this video.


you Bush/Obama dupes have to make shit up to try and save face in your posts everytime this video is shown that is when you DONT ignore it which is usually almost the case 99 out of a 100 times.

Damn, same video I picked apart less than 2 weeks ago. You really need some new material....

Really 9/11?

The firemen were out by the time Silverstein made that statement? What time did Silverstein make that statement and what time was the last firefighter out of WTC7?

I bet you can't answer that. Let's see your proof.