Why don't we ban alcoholic beverages instead of making it illegal to drive drunk?

The [QUOTE="Dr Grump said:
ScreamingEagle said:
you mean a 'fully automatic assault weapon' like a car....? :rolleyes:
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Yeah. I'm sure when Henry Ford set up his production line he thought "How many people can I kill with one of these?" Unlike Kalashnikov who thought "I wonder how many pine cones I can shoot off pine trees in the Siberian wilderness with this little beauty."
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Well, today you got terrorists wondering how many they can mow down with a vehicle.....and being quite successful too....
 
ColonelAngus said:
Drunk driving kills roughly 30 people EVERY SINGLE DAY IN AMERICA.

Alcohol is legal to consume with certain age and location limitations.

Drunk Driving is illegal....yet it happens...and people die.

We should ban all alcohol to make sure we never have any more drunk driving fatalities.

It's the only way to be sure and save 10,000 lives per year in America.
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Here we go with the false justifications.
Since M.A.D.D. formed in California many years ago, the laws against driving while intoxicated in every state have changed radically.
You probably don't recall or simply never knew this.
Drive drunk and get caught back then in the 60s and 70s, nothing, slap on the wrist. It was an episode of "Andy Griffith" with Andy letting Otis sleep it off in jail.
Now it's a $10,000 fine plus six months of compulsory education and goes down as a criminal offense on your record.
Similar changes need to be made for owning weapons that can kill or wound 500 people in 10 minutes.
It's just common sense, you stupid fucking asshole.
 
The gun control hand wringing from the left is nothing but political opportunism.

They don't want to stop gun violence, or else they would address the black on black gun murders in the inner cities. They want to be political. NOTHING MORE.
 
LoneLaugher said:
Skull Pilot said:
LoneLaugher said:
Skull Pilot said:
LoneLaugher said:
Skull Pilot said:
And the murder rate is at it's lowest level in 3 decades
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Yep. And?

You making the argument that this is because we have more guns? That's retarded, you know.
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No I'm saying that guns don't increase the murder rate just like gun laws don't decrease the murder rate

So why all the fuss about guns?
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More guns = more crime.
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Completely false.

Tell me why our murder rate is at a 120 year low when we have more guns now than we ever have.
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Fewer gun owners.
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So is it more guns or more gun owners that equals more crime because no matter how you slice it our crime rate is at a 30 year low and our murder rate is almost at a 120 year low
 
Dr Grump said:
Pointless comparing drunk drivers and guns. Might has well compare the life span of the Peruvian gnat with the sex life of redwoods. Totally different subjects.
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What we are comparing is the action of banning something for all because a few people might wind up hurting someone

Or holding everyone responsible for the acts of a few.

It's not too hard to figure that out
 
Will the government will come save you? 4,000 deaths and 18,000 shootings on the South Side of Chicago during the Obama administration?

Rahm Emmanuel and Obama sure as fuck aren't going to come save your ass.
 
Skull Pilot said:
LoneLaugher said:
Skull Pilot said:
LoneLaugher said:
Skull Pilot said:
LoneLaugher said:
Yep. And?

You making the argument that this is because we have more guns? That's retarded, you know.
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No I'm saying that guns don't increase the murder rate just like gun laws don't decrease the murder rate

So why all the fuss about guns?
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More guns = more crime.
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Completely false.

Tell me why our murder rate is at a 120 year low when we have more guns now than we ever have.
Click to expand...

Fewer gun owners.
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So is it more guns or more gun owners that equals more crime because no matter how you slice it our crime rate is at a 30 year low and our murder rate is almost at a 120 year low
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These assholes never deal in facts. If there are FACTS that disprove their bullshit, they just IGNORE THE FACTS.

HERE ARE THE FACTS...stop fucking lying, PROGS.

SINCE 1993, gun ownership is UP 50%, and gun homicides are DOWN 50%.

guns_per_person_vs._gun_homicide_rate_1993_to_2013_0.jpg
 
ColonelAngus said:
Skull Pilot said:
LoneLaugher said:
Skull Pilot said:
LoneLaugher said:
Skull Pilot said:
No I'm saying that guns don't increase the murder rate just like gun laws don't decrease the murder rate

So why all the fuss about guns?
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More guns = more crime.
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Completely false.

Tell me why our murder rate is at a 120 year low when we have more guns now than we ever have.
Click to expand...

Fewer gun owners.
Click to expand...

So is it more guns or more gun owners that equals more crime because no matter how you slice it our crime rate is at a 30 year low and our murder rate is almost at a 120 year low
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These assholes never deal in facts. If there are FACTS that disprove their bullshit, they just IGNORE THE FACTS.

HERE ARE THE FACTS...stop fucking lying, PROGS.

SINCE 1993, gun ownership is UP 50%, and gun homicides are DOWN 50%.

guns_per_person_vs._gun_homicide_rate_1993_to_2013_0.jpg
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And the murder rate is at a 120 year low but none of that matters
 
ColonelAngus said:
Will the government will come save you? 4,000 deaths and 18,000 shootings on the South Side of Chicago during the Obama administration?

Rahm Emmanuel and Obama sure as fuck aren't going to come save your ass.
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Obama must have thought that so many gun deaths were just fine and dandy because Chicago has very strict gun laws.....

You can't account for stupid............or power-hungry
 
ColonelAngus said:
Skull Pilot said:
LoneLaugher said:
Skull Pilot said:
LoneLaugher said:
Skull Pilot said:
No I'm saying that guns don't increase the murder rate just like gun laws don't decrease the murder rate

So why all the fuss about guns?
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More guns = more crime.
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Completely false.

Tell me why our murder rate is at a 120 year low when we have more guns now than we ever have.
Click to expand...

Fewer gun owners.
Click to expand...

So is it more guns or more gun owners that equals more crime because no matter how you slice it our crime rate is at a 30 year low and our murder rate is almost at a 120 year low
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These assholes never deal in facts. If there are FACTS that disprove their bullshit, they just IGNORE THE FACTS.

HERE ARE THE FACTS...stop fucking lying, PROGS.

SINCE 1993, gun ownership is UP 50%, and gun homicides are DOWN 50%.

guns_per_person_vs._gun_homicide_rate_1993_to_2013_0.jpg
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Those murders went down because of tougher gun laws
 
ScreamingEagle said:
ColonelAngus said:
Will the government will come save you? 4,000 deaths and 18,000 shootings on the South Side of Chicago during the Obama administration?

Rahm Emmanuel and Obama sure as fuck aren't going to come save your ass.
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Obama must have thought that so many gun deaths were just fine and dandy because Chicago has very strict gun laws.....

You can't account for stupid............or power-hungry
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Obama did not control Chicago...never did

He did try to implement tougher gun laws nationwide and was blocked by Republicans

So I guess we can blame Republicans
 
rightwinger said:
ColonelAngus said:
Skull Pilot said:
LoneLaugher said:
Skull Pilot said:
LoneLaugher said:
More guns = more crime.
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Completely false.

Tell me why our murder rate is at a 120 year low when we have more guns now than we ever have.
Click to expand...

Fewer gun owners.
Click to expand...

So is it more guns or more gun owners that equals more crime because no matter how you slice it our crime rate is at a 30 year low and our murder rate is almost at a 120 year low
Click to expand...



These assholes never deal in facts. If there are FACTS that disprove their bullshit, they just IGNORE THE FACTS.

HERE ARE THE FACTS...stop fucking lying, PROGS.

SINCE 1993, gun ownership is UP 50%, and gun homicides are DOWN 50%.

guns_per_person_vs._gun_homicide_rate_1993_to_2013_0.jpg
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Those murders went down because of tougher gun laws
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No Not really.

Any law abiding person is able to buy firearms to this day. That has not changed in the last 30 years
 
Skull Pilot said:
Dr Grump said:
Pointless comparing drunk drivers and guns. Might has well compare the life span of the Peruvian gnat with the sex life of redwoods. Totally different subjects.
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What we are comparing is the action of banning something for all because a few people might wind up hurting someone

Or holding everyone responsible for the acts of a few.

It's not too hard to figure that out
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I'd call that more than a few. And one item has been designed to maim and kill. About the only people who don't 'get it' are gun nuts.
 
rightwinger said:
ScreamingEagle said:
ColonelAngus said:
Will the government will come save you? 4,000 deaths and 18,000 shootings on the South Side of Chicago during the Obama administration?

Rahm Emmanuel and Obama sure as fuck aren't going to come save your ass.
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Obama must have thought that so many gun deaths were just fine and dandy because Chicago has very strict gun laws.....

You can't account for stupid............or power-hungry
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Obama did not control Chicago...never did

He did try to implement tougher gun laws nationwide and was blocked by Republicans

So I guess we can blame Republicans
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Gun laws do not lower the murder rate

The murder rate in the UK didn't drop below the level it was before all their gun laws gun bans and gun confiscations after all those things took place.

Our murder rate is the lowest it has been in 60 plus years and is almost equal to the lowest murder rate of the last 120 years.
 
Skull Pilot said:
ColonelAngus said:
Skull Pilot said:
LoneLaugher said:
Skull Pilot said:
LoneLaugher said:
More guns = more crime.
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Completely false.

Tell me why our murder rate is at a 120 year low when we have more guns now than we ever have.
Click to expand...

Fewer gun owners.
Click to expand...

So is it more guns or more gun owners that equals more crime because no matter how you slice it our crime rate is at a 30 year low and our murder rate is almost at a 120 year low
Click to expand...



These assholes never deal in facts. If there are FACTS that disprove their bullshit, they just IGNORE THE FACTS.

HERE ARE THE FACTS...stop fucking lying, PROGS.

SINCE 1993, gun ownership is UP 50%, and gun homicides are DOWN 50%.

guns_per_person_vs._gun_homicide_rate_1993_to_2013_0.jpg
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And the murder rate is at a 120 year low but none of that matters
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So you're saying this doesn't matter?
THIS IS JUST 2017.


October 5, 2017 Arizona Casa Grande Pinal Ave and McMurray Blvd 4 0
October 3, 2017 Florida Miami 2051 NW 65th St 0 4
October 1, 2017 Nevada Las Vegas 3950 Las Vegas Blvd S 59 241
October 1, 2017 Kansas Lawrence 1000 block of Massachusetts St 3 2
September 30, 2017 Tennessee Memphis 800 block of Kerr Avenue 1 3
September 28, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans 2001 N Rocheblave St 1 3
September 26, 2017 Tennessee Memphis 2531 Chelsea Ave 0 4
September 26, 2017 Maryland Baltimore 3200 block of Lyndale Ave 2 2
September 26, 2017 Pennsylvania Philadelphia 100 block of Pastorius St 1 3
September 24, 2017 Maryland Baltimore 500 block of E. Patapsco Avenue 0 4
September 24, 2017 New Jersey Mays Landing 6000 block of Hoover Dr 1 3
September 24, 2017 Tennessee Antioch 3890 Pin Hook Rd 1 8
September 24, 2017 New York Syracuse 1226 E Fayette St 0 4
September 23, 2017 Illinois Danville Seminary St and Jackson St 0 5
September 23, 2017 California Bakersfield 818 Real Rd 1 4
September 20, 2017 Indiana Gary 4300 block of 23rd Ct 0 5
September 17, 2017 Michigan Detroit 5000 block of Stanton Street 1 3
September 17, 2017 Virginia Petersburg 300 Mistletoe St 1 4
September 16, 2017 South Carolina Columbia 920 Lady Street 0 8
September 13, 2017 Washington Rockford 14626 S Jackson Rd 1 3
September 13, 2017 Pennsylvania York 400 block of S Duke St 0 4
September 13, 2017 Pennsylvania Philadelphia 3100 block of N 2nd St 0 4
September 13, 2017 Tennessee Memphis 1000 block of Morehead St 1 5
September 10, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans Elysian Fields Ave and N Claiborne Ave 0 4
September 10, 2017 Texas Plano 1712 West Spring Creek Parkway 9 1
September 9, 2017AlabamaSelmaKings Bend Road04
September 6, 2017IllinoisChicago2700 block of Madison04
September 4, 2017IllinoisBellwood1000 block of Bellwood Ave04
September 3, 2017CaliforniaInglewood10100 block of S Firmona Ave23
September 2, 2017KentuckyLouisville8008 Watterson Trail04
September 2, 2017IllinoisChicago8300 block of S Hermitage13
August 28, 2017New MexicoClovis701 N Main St24
August 27, 2017CaliforniaSacramento7760 24th St14
August 27, 2017IndianaEvansville1127 Chestnut St13
August 25, 2017FloridaGainesville1600 NE 8th Ave04
August 24, 2017MissouriSaint Louis10400 block of Balmoral Dr40
August 22, 2017IllinoisChicago300 block of N Central Ave04
August 21, 2017New JerseyNewarkFabyan Place04
August 21, 2017New JerseyNewark700 block of S 19th St13
August 21, 2017MarylandBaltimoreCottage Avenue and Park Heights Avenue13
August 21, 2017North CarolinaWhitakers980 Fishing Creek Rd40
August 21, 2017TennesseeMemphis262 Decatur St04
August 20, 2017IllinoisChicago11901 S Loomis St25
August 20, 2017New YorkBrooklyn100th St and Ave M04
August 19, 2017OhioCleveland11143 Superior Ave14
August 16, 2017New YorkWyandanchMerritt Ave and 15th St04
August 14, 2017CaliforniaNorth HollywoodMorrison St and Klump Ave22
August 13, 2017CaliforniaSacramento4000 Block of Martin Luther King Jr Blvd04
August 13, 2017VirginiaSuffolk8700 block of Quay Rd04
August 13, 2017PennsylvaniaPhiladelphia39th St and Melon St05
 
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Dr Grump said:
Skull Pilot said:
Dr Grump said:
Pointless comparing drunk drivers and guns. Might has well compare the life span of the Peruvian gnat with the sex life of redwoods. Totally different subjects.
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What we are comparing is the action of banning something for all because a few people might wind up hurting someone

Or holding everyone responsible for the acts of a few.

It's not too hard to figure that out
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I'd call that more than a few. And one item has been designed to maim and kill. About the only people who don't 'get it' are gun nuts.
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It is a few. .005% of the population are murder victims annually an even smaller percentage commits those murders

Rifles are used in less than 2% of all murders and 1% of all murders are from mass shootings.

7 times more people were killed with knives than with rifles more than twice as many were killed with fists or feet.

Sorry but no matter how you slice it rifles are the least of our murder problems.
 
WaitingFor2020 said:
Skull Pilot said:
ColonelAngus said:
Skull Pilot said:
LoneLaugher said:
Skull Pilot said:
Completely false.

Tell me why our murder rate is at a 120 year low when we have more guns now than we ever have.
Click to expand...

Fewer gun owners.
Click to expand...

So is it more guns or more gun owners that equals more crime because no matter how you slice it our crime rate is at a 30 year low and our murder rate is almost at a 120 year low
Click to expand...



These assholes never deal in facts. If there are FACTS that disprove their bullshit, they just IGNORE THE FACTS.

HERE ARE THE FACTS...stop fucking lying, PROGS.

SINCE 1993, gun ownership is UP 50%, and gun homicides are DOWN 50%.

guns_per_person_vs._gun_homicide_rate_1993_to_2013_0.jpg
Click to expand...
And the murder rate is at a 120 year low but none of that matters
Click to expand...


So you're saying this doesn't matter?


October 5, 2017 Arizona Casa Grande Pinal Ave and McMurray Blvd 4 0
October 3, 2017 Florida Miami 2051 NW 65th St 0 4
October 1, 2017 Nevada Las Vegas 3950 Las Vegas Blvd S 59 241
October 1, 2017 Kansas Lawrence 1000 block of Massachusetts St 3 2
September 30, 2017 Tennessee Memphis 800 block of Kerr Avenue 1 3
September 28, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans 2001 N Rocheblave St 1 3
September 26, 2017 Tennessee Memphis 2531 Chelsea Ave 0 4
September 26, 2017 Maryland Baltimore 3200 block of Lyndale Ave 2 2
September 26, 2017 Pennsylvania Philadelphia 100 block of Pastorius St 1 3
September 24, 2017 Maryland Baltimore 500 block of E. Patapsco Avenue 0 4
September 24, 2017 New Jersey Mays Landing 6000 block of Hoover Dr 1 3
September 24, 2017 Tennessee Antioch 3890 Pin Hook Rd 1 8
September 24, 2017 New York Syracuse 1226 E Fayette St 0 4
September 23, 2017 Illinois Danville Seminary St and Jackson St 0 5
September 23, 2017 California Bakersfield 818 Real Rd 1 4
September 20, 2017 Indiana Gary 4300 block of 23rd Ct 0 5
September 17, 2017 Michigan Detroit 5000 block of Stanton Street 1 3
September 17, 2017 Virginia Petersburg 300 Mistletoe St 1 4
September 16, 2017 South Carolina Columbia 920 Lady Street 0 8
September 13, 2017 Washington Rockford 14626 S Jackson Rd 1 3
September 13, 2017 Pennsylvania York 400 block of S Duke St 0 4
September 13, 2017 Pennsylvania Philadelphia 3100 block of N 2nd St 0 4
September 13, 2017 Tennessee Memphis 1000 block of Morehead St 1 5
September 10, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans Elysian Fields Ave and N Claiborne Ave 0 4
September 10, 2017 Texas Plano 1712 West Spring Creek Parkway 9 1
September 9, 2017AlabamaSelmaKings Bend Road04
September 6, 2017IllinoisChicago2700 block of Madison04
September 4, 2017IllinoisBellwood1000 block of Bellwood Ave04
September 3, 2017CaliforniaInglewood10100 block of S Firmona Ave23
September 2, 2017KentuckyLouisville8008 Watterson Trail04
September 2, 2017IllinoisChicago8300 block of S Hermitage13
August 28, 2017New MexicoClovis701 N Main St24
August 27, 2017CaliforniaSacramento7760 24th St14
August 27, 2017IndianaEvansville1127 Chestnut St13
August 25, 2017FloridaGainesville1600 NE 8th Ave04
August 24, 2017MissouriSaint Louis10400 block of Balmoral Dr40
August 22, 2017IllinoisChicago300 block of N Central Ave04
August 21, 2017New JerseyNewarkFabyan Place04
August 21, 2017New JerseyNewark700 block of S 19th St13
August 21, 2017MarylandBaltimoreCottage Avenue and Park Heights Avenue13
August 21, 2017North CarolinaWhitakers980 Fishing Creek Rd40
August 21, 2017TennesseeMemphis262 Decatur St04
August 20, 2017IllinoisChicago11901 S Loomis St25
August 20, 2017New YorkBrooklyn100th St and Ave M04
August 19, 2017OhioCleveland11143 Superior Ave14
August 16, 2017New YorkWyandanchMerritt Ave and 15th St04
August 14, 2017CaliforniaNorth HollywoodMorrison St and Klump Ave22
August 13, 2017CaliforniaSacramento4000 Block of Martin Luther King Jr Blvd04
August 13, 2017VirginiaSuffolk8700 block of Quay Rd04
August 13, 2017PennsylvaniaPhiladelphia39th St and Melon St05
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That tells me we need more guns to protect against all these thugs with guns.
 
WaitingFor2020 said:
Skull Pilot said:
ColonelAngus said:
Skull Pilot said:
LoneLaugher said:
Skull Pilot said:
Completely false.

Tell me why our murder rate is at a 120 year low when we have more guns now than we ever have.
Click to expand...

Fewer gun owners.
Click to expand...

So is it more guns or more gun owners that equals more crime because no matter how you slice it our crime rate is at a 30 year low and our murder rate is almost at a 120 year low
Click to expand...



These assholes never deal in facts. If there are FACTS that disprove their bullshit, they just IGNORE THE FACTS.

HERE ARE THE FACTS...stop fucking lying, PROGS.

SINCE 1993, gun ownership is UP 50%, and gun homicides are DOWN 50%.

guns_per_person_vs._gun_homicide_rate_1993_to_2013_0.jpg
Click to expand...
And the murder rate is at a 120 year low but none of that matters
Click to expand...


So you're saying this doesn't matter?


October 5, 2017 Arizona Casa Grande Pinal Ave and McMurray Blvd 4 0
October 3, 2017 Florida Miami 2051 NW 65th St 0 4
October 1, 2017 Nevada Las Vegas 3950 Las Vegas Blvd S 59 241
October 1, 2017 Kansas Lawrence 1000 block of Massachusetts St 3 2
September 30, 2017 Tennessee Memphis 800 block of Kerr Avenue 1 3
September 28, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans 2001 N Rocheblave St 1 3
September 26, 2017 Tennessee Memphis 2531 Chelsea Ave 0 4
September 26, 2017 Maryland Baltimore 3200 block of Lyndale Ave 2 2
September 26, 2017 Pennsylvania Philadelphia 100 block of Pastorius St 1 3
September 24, 2017 Maryland Baltimore 500 block of E. Patapsco Avenue 0 4
September 24, 2017 New Jersey Mays Landing 6000 block of Hoover Dr 1 3
September 24, 2017 Tennessee Antioch 3890 Pin Hook Rd 1 8
September 24, 2017 New York Syracuse 1226 E Fayette St 0 4
September 23, 2017 Illinois Danville Seminary St and Jackson St 0 5
September 23, 2017 California Bakersfield 818 Real Rd 1 4
September 20, 2017 Indiana Gary 4300 block of 23rd Ct 0 5
September 17, 2017 Michigan Detroit 5000 block of Stanton Street 1 3
September 17, 2017 Virginia Petersburg 300 Mistletoe St 1 4
September 16, 2017 South Carolina Columbia 920 Lady Street 0 8
September 13, 2017 Washington Rockford 14626 S Jackson Rd 1 3
September 13, 2017 Pennsylvania York 400 block of S Duke St 0 4
September 13, 2017 Pennsylvania Philadelphia 3100 block of N 2nd St 0 4
September 13, 2017 Tennessee Memphis 1000 block of Morehead St 1 5
September 10, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans Elysian Fields Ave and N Claiborne Ave 0 4
September 10, 2017 Texas Plano 1712 West Spring Creek Parkway 9 1
September 9, 2017AlabamaSelmaKings Bend Road04
September 6, 2017IllinoisChicago2700 block of Madison04
September 4, 2017IllinoisBellwood1000 block of Bellwood Ave04
September 3, 2017CaliforniaInglewood10100 block of S Firmona Ave23
September 2, 2017KentuckyLouisville8008 Watterson Trail04
September 2, 2017IllinoisChicago8300 block of S Hermitage13
August 28, 2017New MexicoClovis701 N Main St24
August 27, 2017CaliforniaSacramento7760 24th St14
August 27, 2017IndianaEvansville1127 Chestnut St13
August 25, 2017FloridaGainesville1600 NE 8th Ave04
August 24, 2017MissouriSaint Louis10400 block of Balmoral Dr40
August 22, 2017IllinoisChicago300 block of N Central Ave04
August 21, 2017New JerseyNewarkFabyan Place04
August 21, 2017New JerseyNewark700 block of S 19th St13
August 21, 2017MarylandBaltimoreCottage Avenue and Park Heights Avenue13
August 21, 2017North CarolinaWhitakers980 Fishing Creek Rd40
August 21, 2017TennesseeMemphis262 Decatur St04
August 20, 2017IllinoisChicago11901 S Loomis St25
August 20, 2017New YorkBrooklyn100th St and Ave M04
August 19, 2017OhioCleveland11143 Superior Ave14
August 16, 2017New YorkWyandanchMerritt Ave and 15th St04
August 14, 2017CaliforniaNorth HollywoodMorrison St and Klump Ave22
August 13, 2017CaliforniaSacramento4000 Block of Martin Luther King Jr Blvd04
August 13, 2017VirginiaSuffolk8700 block of Quay Rd04
August 13, 2017PennsylvaniaPhiladelphia39th St and Melon St05
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Meaningless and it doesn't change the FACT that our murder rate is at a 120 year low
 
Bootney Lee Farnsworth said:
WaitingFor2020 said:
Skull Pilot said:
ColonelAngus said:
Skull Pilot said:
LoneLaugher said:
Fewer gun owners.
Click to expand...

So is it more guns or more gun owners that equals more crime because no matter how you slice it our crime rate is at a 30 year low and our murder rate is almost at a 120 year low
Click to expand...



These assholes never deal in facts. If there are FACTS that disprove their bullshit, they just IGNORE THE FACTS.

HERE ARE THE FACTS...stop fucking lying, PROGS.

SINCE 1993, gun ownership is UP 50%, and gun homicides are DOWN 50%.

guns_per_person_vs._gun_homicide_rate_1993_to_2013_0.jpg
Click to expand...
And the murder rate is at a 120 year low but none of that matters
Click to expand...


So you're saying this doesn't matter?


October 5, 2017 Arizona Casa Grande Pinal Ave and McMurray Blvd 4 0
October 3, 2017 Florida Miami 2051 NW 65th St 0 4
October 1, 2017 Nevada Las Vegas 3950 Las Vegas Blvd S 59 241
October 1, 2017 Kansas Lawrence 1000 block of Massachusetts St 3 2
September 30, 2017 Tennessee Memphis 800 block of Kerr Avenue 1 3
September 28, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans 2001 N Rocheblave St 1 3
September 26, 2017 Tennessee Memphis 2531 Chelsea Ave 0 4
September 26, 2017 Maryland Baltimore 3200 block of Lyndale Ave 2 2
September 26, 2017 Pennsylvania Philadelphia 100 block of Pastorius St 1 3
September 24, 2017 Maryland Baltimore 500 block of E. Patapsco Avenue 0 4
September 24, 2017 New Jersey Mays Landing 6000 block of Hoover Dr 1 3
September 24, 2017 Tennessee Antioch 3890 Pin Hook Rd 1 8
September 24, 2017 New York Syracuse 1226 E Fayette St 0 4
September 23, 2017 Illinois Danville Seminary St and Jackson St 0 5
September 23, 2017 California Bakersfield 818 Real Rd 1 4
September 20, 2017 Indiana Gary 4300 block of 23rd Ct 0 5
September 17, 2017 Michigan Detroit 5000 block of Stanton Street 1 3
September 17, 2017 Virginia Petersburg 300 Mistletoe St 1 4
September 16, 2017 South Carolina Columbia 920 Lady Street 0 8
September 13, 2017 Washington Rockford 14626 S Jackson Rd 1 3
September 13, 2017 Pennsylvania York 400 block of S Duke St 0 4
September 13, 2017 Pennsylvania Philadelphia 3100 block of N 2nd St 0 4
September 13, 2017 Tennessee Memphis 1000 block of Morehead St 1 5
September 10, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans Elysian Fields Ave and N Claiborne Ave 0 4
September 10, 2017 Texas Plano 1712 West Spring Creek Parkway 9 1
September 9, 2017AlabamaSelmaKings Bend Road04
September 6, 2017IllinoisChicago2700 block of Madison04
September 4, 2017IllinoisBellwood1000 block of Bellwood Ave04
September 3, 2017CaliforniaInglewood10100 block of S Firmona Ave23
September 2, 2017KentuckyLouisville8008 Watterson Trail04
September 2, 2017IllinoisChicago8300 block of S Hermitage13
August 28, 2017New MexicoClovis701 N Main St24
August 27, 2017CaliforniaSacramento7760 24th St14
August 27, 2017IndianaEvansville1127 Chestnut St13
August 25, 2017FloridaGainesville1600 NE 8th Ave04
August 24, 2017MissouriSaint Louis10400 block of Balmoral Dr40
August 22, 2017IllinoisChicago300 block of N Central Ave04
August 21, 2017New JerseyNewarkFabyan Place04
August 21, 2017New JerseyNewark700 block of S 19th St13
August 21, 2017MarylandBaltimoreCottage Avenue and Park Heights Avenue13
August 21, 2017North CarolinaWhitakers980 Fishing Creek Rd40
August 21, 2017TennesseeMemphis262 Decatur St04
August 20, 2017IllinoisChicago11901 S Loomis St25
August 20, 2017New YorkBrooklyn100th St and Ave M04
August 19, 2017OhioCleveland11143 Superior Ave14
August 16, 2017New YorkWyandanchMerritt Ave and 15th St04
August 14, 2017CaliforniaNorth HollywoodMorrison St and Klump Ave22
August 13, 2017CaliforniaSacramento4000 Block of Martin Luther King Jr Blvd04
August 13, 2017VirginiaSuffolk8700 block of Quay Rd04
August 13, 2017PennsylvaniaPhiladelphia39th St and Melon St05
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That tells me we need more guns to protect against all these thugs with guns.
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Yeah, because the only thing that can stop a bad guy on the 32nd floor of a hotel with 23 guns is a good guy in a hotel across the street with 24. Love your logic.
 
Skull Pilot said:
WaitingFor2020 said:
Skull Pilot said:
ColonelAngus said:
Skull Pilot said:
LoneLaugher said:
Fewer gun owners.
Click to expand...

So is it more guns or more gun owners that equals more crime because no matter how you slice it our crime rate is at a 30 year low and our murder rate is almost at a 120 year low
Click to expand...



These assholes never deal in facts. If there are FACTS that disprove their bullshit, they just IGNORE THE FACTS.

HERE ARE THE FACTS...stop fucking lying, PROGS.

SINCE 1993, gun ownership is UP 50%, and gun homicides are DOWN 50%.

guns_per_person_vs._gun_homicide_rate_1993_to_2013_0.jpg
Click to expand...
And the murder rate is at a 120 year low but none of that matters
Click to expand...


So you're saying this doesn't matter?


October 5, 2017 Arizona Casa Grande Pinal Ave and McMurray Blvd 4 0
October 3, 2017 Florida Miami 2051 NW 65th St 0 4
October 1, 2017 Nevada Las Vegas 3950 Las Vegas Blvd S 59 241
October 1, 2017 Kansas Lawrence 1000 block of Massachusetts St 3 2
September 30, 2017 Tennessee Memphis 800 block of Kerr Avenue 1 3
September 28, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans 2001 N Rocheblave St 1 3
September 26, 2017 Tennessee Memphis 2531 Chelsea Ave 0 4
September 26, 2017 Maryland Baltimore 3200 block of Lyndale Ave 2 2
September 26, 2017 Pennsylvania Philadelphia 100 block of Pastorius St 1 3
September 24, 2017 Maryland Baltimore 500 block of E. Patapsco Avenue 0 4
September 24, 2017 New Jersey Mays Landing 6000 block of Hoover Dr 1 3
September 24, 2017 Tennessee Antioch 3890 Pin Hook Rd 1 8
September 24, 2017 New York Syracuse 1226 E Fayette St 0 4
September 23, 2017 Illinois Danville Seminary St and Jackson St 0 5
September 23, 2017 California Bakersfield 818 Real Rd 1 4
September 20, 2017 Indiana Gary 4300 block of 23rd Ct 0 5
September 17, 2017 Michigan Detroit 5000 block of Stanton Street 1 3
September 17, 2017 Virginia Petersburg 300 Mistletoe St 1 4
September 16, 2017 South Carolina Columbia 920 Lady Street 0 8
September 13, 2017 Washington Rockford 14626 S Jackson Rd 1 3
September 13, 2017 Pennsylvania York 400 block of S Duke St 0 4
September 13, 2017 Pennsylvania Philadelphia 3100 block of N 2nd St 0 4
September 13, 2017 Tennessee Memphis 1000 block of Morehead St 1 5
September 10, 2017 Louisiana New Orleans Elysian Fields Ave and N Claiborne Ave 0 4
September 10, 2017 Texas Plano 1712 West Spring Creek Parkway 9 1
September 9, 2017AlabamaSelmaKings Bend Road04
September 6, 2017IllinoisChicago2700 block of Madison04
September 4, 2017IllinoisBellwood1000 block of Bellwood Ave04
September 3, 2017CaliforniaInglewood10100 block of S Firmona Ave23
September 2, 2017KentuckyLouisville8008 Watterson Trail04
September 2, 2017IllinoisChicago8300 block of S Hermitage13
August 28, 2017New MexicoClovis701 N Main St24
August 27, 2017CaliforniaSacramento7760 24th St14
August 27, 2017IndianaEvansville1127 Chestnut St13
August 25, 2017FloridaGainesville1600 NE 8th Ave04
August 24, 2017MissouriSaint Louis10400 block of Balmoral Dr40
August 22, 2017IllinoisChicago300 block of N Central Ave04
August 21, 2017New JerseyNewarkFabyan Place04
August 21, 2017New JerseyNewark700 block of S 19th St13
August 21, 2017MarylandBaltimoreCottage Avenue and Park Heights Avenue13
August 21, 2017North CarolinaWhitakers980 Fishing Creek Rd40
August 21, 2017TennesseeMemphis262 Decatur St04
August 20, 2017IllinoisChicago11901 S Loomis St25
August 20, 2017New YorkBrooklyn100th St and Ave M04
August 19, 2017OhioCleveland11143 Superior Ave14
August 16, 2017New YorkWyandanchMerritt Ave and 15th St04
August 14, 2017CaliforniaNorth HollywoodMorrison St and Klump Ave22
August 13, 2017CaliforniaSacramento4000 Block of Martin Luther King Jr Blvd04
August 13, 2017VirginiaSuffolk8700 block of Quay Rd04
August 13, 2017PennsylvaniaPhiladelphia39th St and Melon St05
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Meaningless and it doesn't change the FACT that our murder rate is at a 120 year low
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We've said for a long time on this board that rightwing fucks like you think life is meaningless. Now you finally admit it.
I bet if this was a list of abortions, you'd be calling me a murderer. Loser.
 
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