Why has this message board got so personal to the left?

[JRK]

As far as the Conservative not able to support there ideals, When would any of you libs like to start?
It is really simple
We spent 2.7 trillion in 07
we brought in about 2.5
in 09 we spent 3.5 trillion and we brought in about 2.1

now BHO was resp for about 500 billion of that increase
Where did it go and what was it for?
We still are far below 2007 job levels
We have millions beyond those who retire leaving the work force
over 8 million sense 2009 who are not part of the U rate (5 million who have gave up)
hat means that under President Obama nearly 5 million Americans have fled the workforce in hopeless despair.

The trick is that when those 5 million are not counted as in the work force, they are not counted as unemployed either. They may desperately need

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...qKTWViubLpadZbOkJSFh4bg&bvm=bv.42080656,d.eWU

It is that simple
from blaming it on W to being full of hate, no other response will you ever see

 

[JakeStarkey]

As far as the Conservative not able to support there ideals, When would any of you libs like to start?
It is really simple
We spent 2.7 trillion in 07
we brought in about 2.5
in 09 we spent 3.5 trillion and we brought in about 2.1

now BHO was resp for about 500 billion of that increase
Where did it go and what was it for?
We still are far below 2007 job levels
We have millions beyond those who retire leaving the work force
over 8 million sense 2009 who are not part of the U rate (5 million who have gave up)
hat means that under President Obama nearly 5 million Americans have fled the workforce in hopeless despair.

The trick is that when those 5 million are not counted as in the work force, they are not counted as unemployed either. They may desperately need

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...qKTWViubLpadZbOkJSFh4bg&bvm=bv.42080656,d.eWU

It is that simple
from blaming it on W to being full of hate, no other response will you ever see

JRK's lies on jobs, employment, budgets, etc., are typical of those that re-elected BHO and defeated my GOP.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Again... When Bush became President... we had a 400 Billion surplus, we had 3% unemployment, we had peace, we had houses that were valuable and full 401K accounts.

And by the time he left, we had two recessions, two wars, a trillion dollar deficit, 4 trillion more in debts, busted 401K's, underwater mortgages, and pretty much epic fail.

Not saying all these things were Bush's fault, but they happened on his watch. But he was white, and you guys all supported him. Shit, I supported him, what was I thinking.

Yeah, things have not gotten a lot better under Obama, mostly because there are people who don't want them to get better. But they haven't gotten worse.

Again, when Bush became president the surplus did not exist. If we had kept up the Clinton era spending, which you now call austerity measures, we would have ended up with a surplus eventually.

(Yes, I know Bush said there was a surplus, he lied.)

Recessions happen. To prove that we can point to the fact that we are about to start a recession even though the great and wonderful Obama, the man who never does anything wrong, is currently president. Not sure how you are going to deal with that, but I don't expect it to be his fault.

Maybe you should get over the fact that Obama is black and start thinking about why you feel a need to point that out every time post. Then you can grow up and stop taking it personally when someone points out that he is causing problems. Even if I am a racist that does not make you one, the only way you can be one is by being one yourself.

You morons have been "predicting" a recession for three years now. I'll take it seriously when it happens.

Sorry, man, we had it good, and Bush fucked it up. And the GOP didn't learn a fucking thing from it. In fact, the sad thing is, because of the stupidity of midterms, the GOP figured, the only problem with Bush was he wasn't enough of an asshole. Well, let's fix that. We'll nominated a guy who who such an asshole, he likes to fire people!

GDP dropped last quarter, if it doesn't hit positive numbers this quarter we will officially be in a recession. Guess what is happening unless Obama and the Republicans agree to more tax increases?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

the deficit is at a five year low cons

It is still higher than it was anytime in history before Obama got into office.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Great, two less Nazi assholes in the world.

Just not seeing this as a bad thing. Why the FBI didn't double tap them all like zombies is a good question, though.

If I respond to this with an insult would that violate the rules? How about if I point out that this is one of the things that is wrong with this country?

Anyone who would support the US government killing children is beyond reprehensible, and absolute proof that to many people on both sides take this personally.

Sammy Weaver was raised to be a psychopath. He shot at a federal officer executing a lawful warrant. If he had lived, he'd be a 30-something swastika tatooed felon sodomizing some poor kid who got busted smoking pot. So, no, I'm not going to feel sad his career of crime ended early.

What I do wonder is why the right wing (or the crazy part of it) want to elevate Randy Weaver (a Nazi) and David Koresh (a child-molesting cultist) into folk heroes because they shot it out with the government.

They're great object lessons, but not good role models.

Even if that is true, you still think it is a good idea for the government to kill children. You are still despicable.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I'm not a lib, but I'm also not feeling any remorse, and I did vote for Obama. We do have a number of problems going on in our economy right now. The thing is that most of you really do not understand what has driven the downturn. You talk about the fact that we have lost 4 million jobs since 2007, but you don't think about the fact that since 2007, 22 million have retired. Now, the problem with the mass exodus from the workforce by the baby boomers, is not just that they are leaving the workforce but that they have stopped buying things. The baby boomers drove this economy with their spending for at least twenty to thirty years, and now they have stopped buying. The problem is that because they stopped buying, there is not demand for more products, and therefore companies are not replacing all these people.

We are in a vicious economic downturn that has been created out of circumstance more than anything else, and truthfully, I'm not certain that there is a real easy fix. What I do know is that the economy will eventually take off again, but it's not going to happen right away. Those in Generation X number around 41 million. They are pretty well into life and already own homes if they are going to. They have their families and are now starting to think about retirement, although they still have a long way to go. It is their kids and some of the late Boomer's kids, who are now in their early 20's to early 30's who are going to make the economy boom again. It's just a matter of a few more years, probably eight or so before we see a massive growth cycle again. You see, there are 71 million in the Y Generation, and when that 71 million start having kids in big numbers, and they start buying houses, things will boom again, and they will. Once business sees that demand is there, they will start hiring and producing again.

For now, we just need to ride out the storm.

There is actually a really simple fix to the economic problems we have right now, return to the Clinton era spending levels.

Simple solutions for simple people.

Fuck, you're such a moron.

Is it too hard for you to understand?

 

[JakeStarkey]

If I respond to this with an insult would that violate the rules? How about if I point out that this is one of the things that is wrong with this country?

Anyone who would support the US government killing children is beyond reprehensible, and absolute proof that to many people on both sides take this personally.

Sammy Weaver was raised to be a psychopath. He shot at a federal officer executing a lawful warrant. If he had lived, he'd be a 30-something swastika tatooed felon sodomizing some poor kid who got busted smoking pot. So, no, I'm not going to feel sad his career of crime ended early.

What I do wonder is why the right wing (or the crazy part of it) want to elevate Randy Weaver (a Nazi) and David Koresh (a child-molesting cultist) into folk heroes because they shot it out with the government.

They're great object lessons, but not good role models.

Even if that is true, you still think it is a good idea for the government to kill children. You are still despicable.

Any child shooting at feebs should be killed immediately, yes. They have been raised as drone feed and deserve nothing more.

 

[Article 15]

There is actually a really simple fix to the economic problems we have right now, return to the Clinton era spending levels.

Simple solutions for simple people.

Fuck, you're such a moron.

Is it too hard for you to understand?

The overwhelming logistical issues and ramifications of slashing the budget nearly in half are clearly too hard for you to understand.

 

[yidnar]

Sammy Weaver was raised to be a psychopath. He shot at a federal officer executing a lawful warrant. If he had lived, he'd be a 30-something swastika tatooed felon sodomizing some poor kid who got busted smoking pot. So, no, I'm not going to feel sad his career of crime ended early.

What I do wonder is why the right wing (or the crazy part of it) want to elevate Randy Weaver (a Nazi) and David Koresh (a child-molesting cultist) into folk heroes because they shot it out with the government.

They're great object lessons, but not good role models.

Even if that is true, you still think it is a good idea for the government to kill children. You are still despicable.

Any child shooting at feebs should be killed immediately, yes. They have been raised as drone feed and deserve nothing more.

drone feed ??? are you for drones killing Americans ??

 

[JakeStarkey]

Even if that is true, you still think it is a good idea for the government to kill children. You are still despicable.

Any child shooting at feebs should be killed immediately, yes. They have been raised as drone feed and deserve nothing more.

drone feed ??? are you for drones killing Americans ??

I am for Americans not being terrorists.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Even if that is true, you still think it is a good idea for the government to kill children. You are still despicable.

Any child shooting at feebs should be killed immediately, yes. They have been raised as drone feed and deserve nothing more.

drone feed ??? are you for drones killing Americans ??

If the "american" decides that his best interests are leaving the U.S.A., renouncing their citizenship, going overseas, and joining those that want to destroy this country, as well as giving instructions to someone known as the "underwear bomber" who tried to blow up a plane over the top of a major U.S. city (Detroit)?

I say they have given up on their rights as a U.S. citizen.

Wanna know what I think should happen?

If there is enough evidence (like there was for the last dirtbag I referenced), let the U.S. Senate hear the proof, as well as what happened (the evidence), and give a simple up or down vote.

If they think he's a terrorist, give them 30 days to surrender and come back to the U.S. for trial.

If they don't come back in 30 days? Tell them over the news channels that they are no longer citizens, and if found on the field of battle, they will be killed.

Traitors don't deserve to have the rights of this country. Take them out wherever possible if they are in a war zone.

 

[S.J.]

If there is enough evidence (like there was for the last dirtbag I referenced), let the U.S. Senate hear the proof, as well as what happened (the evidence), and give a simple up or down vote.

Somehow I don't think we'd be hearing this same argument if it were a Republican president with a Republican Senate asking for a green light to kill American citizens.

 

[JoeB131]

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GDP dropped last quarter, if it doesn't hit positive numbers this quarter we will officially be in a recession. Guess what is happening unless Obama and the Republicans agree to more tax increases?

It dropped a fraction of .1 because Hurricane Sandy closed down the entire east cost for a month...

But I know you just have to beleive that we are going to all be punished for voting for the black guy.

 

[Redfish]

OK, back to topic. why do those on the left always revert to personal attacks against anyone that does not buy into their obama-love and left wing ideology?

Personally I think its because they know that when both sides are given equal time, they will always lose because their ideas are not based on logic but on emotion.

liberals just feeeeeeeeel certain ways. they can't explain why, but they just feeeeeeeeeel that they know what is right for everyone. anyone who does share their feeeeeeeeeelings is to be destroyed by lies and innuendo.

Back in the day you had the blue dog democrat
With some legislation especially when it came to budgets and so forth there was some you could count on

Libs today are 100% brain washed or to ashamed to admit how far of track there agenda is
When GWB was president we were within about 200 billion of a balanced budget with the income we had in 07 vs expenses
The main stream as well as Liberal NE Dems became desperate to re gain power after 2000
The more lies that were told, the more radical they became
Now it is to a point they see no wrong in the mess this country is really in

yep, the failed policies of liberalism have taken control of DC. We need to turn it around in 2014 or the country may be lost for our kids

 

[Redfish]

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GDP dropped last quarter, if it doesn't hit positive numbers this quarter we will officially be in a recession. Guess what is happening unless Obama and the Republicans agree to more tax increases?

It dropped a fraction of .1 because Hurricane Sandy closed down the entire east cost for a month...

But I know you just have to beleive that we are going to all be punished for voting for the black guy.

why must you on the left always bring up race? BTW obama is not a "black guy". he is a half breed.

 

[poet]

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GDP dropped last quarter, if it doesn't hit positive numbers this quarter we will officially be in a recession. Guess what is happening unless Obama and the Republicans agree to more tax increases?

It dropped a fraction of .1 because Hurricane Sandy closed down the entire east cost for a month...

But I know you just have to beleive that we are going to all be punished for voting for the black guy.

why must you on the left always bring up race? BTW obama is not a "black guy". he is a half breed.

It's never the left that brings up race. The left is over race. The right is obsessed with "race". It's very important to them. Not so much with the left. Thanks.

 

[ArmyCowboy]

Some on the left personally attack the other side, but we have found the reactionary far right does it far more often. Why? The far right cannot defend their position.

We will now wait for the whinging and pinging by the far right.

We also know the far right disdains education, so they're very limited in their ability to defend their positions.

Conservatives "disdain" education? Really? Funny but the majority of Republicans I've come in contact with down here in South West Florida not only went to college but most have advanced degrees. I think you've mistaken their disdain of liberal educators with a disdain for education itself.

No, republicans celebrate ignorance while disdaining all things educated, even if they are themselves educated (Rick Santorum comes to mind.)

Obviously nothing but an attempt to play to the uneducated redneck base, but it is what it is.

 

[Oldstyle]

It dropped a fraction of .1 because Hurricane Sandy closed down the entire east cost for a month...

But I know you just have to beleive that we are going to all be punished for voting for the black guy.

why must you on the left always bring up race? BTW obama is not a "black guy". he is a half breed.

It's never the left that brings up race. The left is over race. The right is obsessed with "race". It's very important to them. Not so much with the left. Thanks.

That's one of the more ignorant statements I've heard on here in quite some time, Poet. There are people on the Left who literally have made their living off bringing up "race". Jesse Jackson? Al Sharpton? Maxine Waters? How many times have people on this board IMMEDIATELY accused conservatives of racism simply because they thought President Obama's policies were badly thought out? It happens literally every DAY here! The Left is over race? Then why do they constantly play the race card every time this President gets into difficulty?

 

[JakeStarkey]

The left is obsessed with race as is the right.

 

[Oldstyle]

We also know the far right disdains education, so they're very limited in their ability to defend their positions.

Conservatives "disdain" education? Really? Funny but the majority of Republicans I've come in contact with down here in South West Florida not only went to college but most have advanced degrees. I think you've mistaken their disdain of liberal educators with a disdain for education itself.

No, republicans celebrate ignorance while disdaining all things educated, even if they are themselves educated (Rick Santorum comes to mind.)

Obviously nothing but an attempt to play to the uneducated redneck base, but it is what it is.

I think that most conservatives are generally amused by liberals who think that THEY are smarter than those around them...all the while espousing policies that simply don't work. Have you ever noticed the almost "obsessive" need by liberals to cite studies that show liberals are more intelligent than conservatives? They cite studies such as that in a frantic effort to prove that they aren't stupid...even as they demand stupid policies.

Take the latest calls by liberals for bans on weapons. A logical person would look at the fact that Chicago has some of the toughest gun control laws in the nation...yet is the murder capital of America and ask themselves if more gun control laws are the answer if the criminals aren't obeying the ones already on the books? But not a liberal. Oh no...a liberal ignores the fact that people who have no problem with murder also have no problem with ignoring gun control laws. Why? Because "reality" doesn't line up with their "beliefs"...therefore reality is wrong. (eye roll)