Why I'm a Democrat now

[Jitss617]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

I voted for George H.W. Bush in 1988, Bob Dole in 1996, and George W Bush in 2000 - All Republicans. NO MORE! I'm a Democrat now. Conservatives used to care about paying down our national debt, supporting our troops, and our European allies against threats from Communism. Today the party of Trump cares little about any of these, instead focusing on abusing little children on our southern border, sucking up to dictators from Russia, North Korea, and Turkey, and dividing this country as deeply as the days of the civil war.

I didn't agree with everything President Obama did, but America didn't turn into a socialist hellhole, nor did the economy crash on his watch as so many on the right wing predicted. This is the last post I'll do here, claiming I'm an Independent.

Sorry Trump supporters: You lost me - Goodby!

What the fuck bull shot is this? You don’t like republicans because they don’t pay down the debt so you vote for big government DEMOCRATS? lol are you on meds?

 

[Brain357]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

I voted for George H.W. Bush in 1988, Bob Dole in 1996, and George W Bush in 2000 - All Republicans. NO MORE! I'm a Democrat now. Conservatives used to care about paying down our national debt, supporting our troops, and our European allies against threats from Communism. Today the party of Trump cares little about any of these, instead focusing on abusing little children on our southern border, sucking up to dictators from Russia, North Korea, and Turkey, and dividing this country as deeply as the days of the civil war.

I didn't agree with everything President Obama did, but America didn't turn into a socialist hellhole, nor did the economy crash on his watch as so many on the right wing predicted. This is the last post I'll do here, claiming I'm an Independent.

Sorry Trump supporters: You lost me - Goodby!

if you were an independent you would have problems with both parties..........

Yes independents do. But Republican's are in control of the Presidency, Senate, and even the supreme court. Their failures really stand out right now. Huge debt, failed pandemic response....

and so an indepent is supposed to think the democrats are going to do better?....

Yes. Things were clearly much better under Obama. Deficits have increased. Almost all trump policy has failed. Tariffs hurt manufacturing. Tax cuts didn't pay for themselves or lead to the promise 4-6% growth. Mexico isn't paying for the wall. Without the partisan blinders it's easy to see how failed trump has been.

yea you are an independent......lol.....

Yes. You can't deny all those failings. Independents don't follow failed policy.

independents have problems with both parties and would not look at biden, a guy who has been part of the reason they are independents as the guy to vote for....

Sadly we have but 2 choices. And trump has been a disaster so Biden gets the support. Again, you can't deny the failings. I'd go back to how things were 4 years ago any day. Country is a mess now and much deeper in debt.

why dont you just say you are democrat and end your charade,,,,

That's all you got? You can't debate the failings? If you can't debate the failings then voting Biden is quite clear.

im debating that you aint no indy...and you are wanting to debate trumps failings...lifelong politicians like joe biden is one of the reasons many people became independents.....for you to support him tells me one thing....you aint no independent....

Then you don't know independents. We pick the best candidate. Trump has clearly been a disaster and you can't seem to deny all his failings. I don't vote for failed policies.

brain you aint no independent your a fucking democrat......politicians like biden are the reason people become independents....and here you are supporting the fucker...

From my experience people become independents when their party is a big fake. I was a republican because they claimed to be small government conservatives. That clearly is not the case. They claimed to be fiscally responsible and have proved that to be false. I agreed when they said a president shouldn't rule by executive order. That went out the window as soon as they got the presidency. I am independent because no party fits me very well.

people become independents because both parties are bullshit .....you gave us why you dont like republicans any more but yet now that other shitty party suddenly fits you real nice....you are no independent....give us a break and quit calling yourself one....

If it fit me really nice I would be a democrat. The dems aren't a great fit, but in recent times they are better than the repubs. See that's being an independent. You partisans just don't get it.

the only partisan between me and you is you......i think both parties are destroying this country with their tit for tat bullshit while you think only one is....if you have problems with both parties you would not vote democrat or republican....being a real independent means telling both parties to stick their political bullshit were the sun dont shine.....lets see you say that to biden and his party....i bet you wont....because you cant.....

Had Kasich been the nominee against Hillary I would have likely voted for him. I think he would have lowered deficits and seems like a person of much greater character than trump or hillary.

 

[Jitss617]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

I voted for George H.W. Bush in 1988, Bob Dole in 1996, and George W Bush in 2000 - All Republicans. NO MORE! I'm a Democrat now. Conservatives used to care about paying down our national debt, supporting our troops, and our European allies against threats from Communism. Today the party of Trump cares little about any of these, instead focusing on abusing little children on our southern border, sucking up to dictators from Russia, North Korea, and Turkey, and dividing this country as deeply as the days of the civil war.

I didn't agree with everything President Obama did, but America didn't turn into a socialist hellhole, nor did the economy crash on his watch as so many on the right wing predicted. This is the last post I'll do here, claiming I'm an Independent.

Sorry Trump supporters: You lost me - Goodby!

if you were an independent you would have problems with both parties..........

Yes independents do. But Republican's are in control of the Presidency, Senate, and even the supreme court. Their failures really stand out right now. Huge debt, failed pandemic response....

and so an indepent is supposed to think the democrats are going to do better?....

Yes. Things were clearly much better under Obama. Deficits have increased. Almost all trump policy has failed. Tariffs hurt manufacturing. Tax cuts didn't pay for themselves or lead to the promise 4-6% growth. Mexico isn't paying for the wall. Without the partisan blinders it's easy to see how failed trump has been.

yea you are an independent......lol.....

Yes. You can't deny all those failings. Independents don't follow failed policy.

independents have problems with both parties and would not look at biden, a guy who has been part of the reason they are independents as the guy to vote for....

Sadly we have but 2 choices. And trump has been a disaster so Biden gets the support. Again, you can't deny the failings. I'd go back to how things were 4 years ago any day. Country is a mess now and much deeper in debt.

why dont you just say you are democrat and end your charade,,,,

That's all you got? You can't debate the failings? If you can't debate the failings then voting Biden is quite clear.

im debating that you aint no indy...and you are wanting to debate trumps failings...lifelong politicians like joe biden is one of the reasons many people became independents.....for you to support him tells me one thing....you aint no independent....

Then you don't know independents. We pick the best candidate. Trump has clearly been a disaster and you can't seem to deny all his failings. I don't vote for failed policies.

brain you aint no independent your a fucking democrat......politicians like biden are the reason people become independents....and here you are supporting the fucker...

From my experience people become independents when their party is a big fake. I was a republican because they claimed to be small government conservatives. That clearly is not the case. They claimed to be fiscally responsible and have proved that to be false. I agreed when they said a president shouldn't rule by executive order. That went out the window as soon as they got the presidency. I am independent because no party fits me very well.

people become independents because both parties are bullshit .....you gave us why you dont like republicans any more but yet now that other shitty party suddenly fits you real nice....you are no independent....give us a break and quit calling yourself one....

If it fit me really nice I would be a democrat. The dems aren't a great fit, but in recent times they are better than the repubs. See that's being an independent. You partisans just don't get it.

the only partisan between me and you is you......i think both parties are destroying this country with their tit for tat bullshit while you think only one is....if you have problems with both parties you would not vote democrat or republican....being a real independent means telling both parties to stick their political bullshit were the sun dont shine.....lets see you say that to biden and his party....i bet you wont....because you cant.....

So you think independents just don't vote then? Well you are wrong. We have to pick which one will do the least damage. In this case it is clearly Biden. I don't agree with the far left on transgenders. I think one is born a male or a female and the difference is obvious. I think often dems are too quick to throw money at problems that then get worse. Isn't there a strong argument that throwing money at kids so they can go to college has greatly increased the cost of college? Dem failures are not lost on me, but trump has been a disaster...

Biden lol funny

 

[Brain357]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

I voted for George H.W. Bush in 1988, Bob Dole in 1996, and George W Bush in 2000 - All Republicans. NO MORE! I'm a Democrat now. Conservatives used to care about paying down our national debt, supporting our troops, and our European allies against threats from Communism. Today the party of Trump cares little about any of these, instead focusing on abusing little children on our southern border, sucking up to dictators from Russia, North Korea, and Turkey, and dividing this country as deeply as the days of the civil war.

I didn't agree with everything President Obama did, but America didn't turn into a socialist hellhole, nor did the economy crash on his watch as so many on the right wing predicted. This is the last post I'll do here, claiming I'm an Independent.

Sorry Trump supporters: You lost me - Goodby!

What the fuck bull shot is this? You don’t like republicans because they don’t pay down the debt so you vote for big government DEMOCRATS? lol are you on meds?

Repubs aren't big gov? What do you think tariffs are? You think big gov should tell our corps who to trade with?

 

[Jitss617]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

I voted for George H.W. Bush in 1988, Bob Dole in 1996, and George W Bush in 2000 - All Republicans. NO MORE! I'm a Democrat now. Conservatives used to care about paying down our national debt, supporting our troops, and our European allies against threats from Communism. Today the party of Trump cares little about any of these, instead focusing on abusing little children on our southern border, sucking up to dictators from Russia, North Korea, and Turkey, and dividing this country as deeply as the days of the civil war.

I didn't agree with everything President Obama did, but America didn't turn into a socialist hellhole, nor did the economy crash on his watch as so many on the right wing predicted. This is the last post I'll do here, claiming I'm an Independent.

Sorry Trump supporters: You lost me - Goodby!

if you were an independent you would have problems with both parties..........

Yes independents do. But Republican's are in control of the Presidency, Senate, and even the supreme court. Their failures really stand out right now. Huge debt, failed pandemic response....

and so an indepent is supposed to think the democrats are going to do better?....

Yes. Things were clearly much better under Obama. Deficits have increased. Almost all trump policy has failed. Tariffs hurt manufacturing. Tax cuts didn't pay for themselves or lead to the promise 4-6% growth. Mexico isn't paying for the wall. Without the partisan blinders it's easy to see how failed trump has been.

yea you are an independent......lol.....

Yes. You can't deny all those failings. Independents don't follow failed policy.

independents have problems with both parties and would not look at biden, a guy who has been part of the reason they are independents as the guy to vote for....

Sadly we have but 2 choices. And trump has been a disaster so Biden gets the support. Again, you can't deny the failings. I'd go back to how things were 4 years ago any day. Country is a mess now and much deeper in debt.

why dont you just say you are democrat and end your charade,,,,

That's all you got? You can't debate the failings? If you can't debate the failings then voting Biden is quite clear.

im debating that you aint no indy...and you are wanting to debate trumps failings...lifelong politicians like joe biden is one of the reasons many people became independents.....for you to support him tells me one thing....you aint no independent....

Then you don't know independents. We pick the best candidate. Trump has clearly been a disaster and you can't seem to deny all his failings. I don't vote for failed policies.

brain you aint no independent your a fucking democrat......politicians like biden are the reason people become independents....and here you are supporting the fucker...

From my experience people become independents when their party is a big fake. I was a republican because they claimed to be small government conservatives. That clearly is not the case. They claimed to be fiscally responsible and have proved that to be false. I agreed when they said a president shouldn't rule by executive order. That went out the window as soon as they got the presidency. I am independent because no party fits me very well.

people become independents because both parties are bullshit .....you gave us why you dont like republicans any more but yet now that other shitty party suddenly fits you real nice....you are no independent....give us a break and quit calling yourself one....

If it fit me really nice I would be a democrat. The dems aren't a great fit, but in recent times they are better than the repubs. See that's being an independent. You partisans just don't get it.

the only partisan between me and you is you......i think both parties are destroying this country with their tit for tat bullshit while you think only one is....if you have problems with both parties you would not vote democrat or republican....being a real independent means telling both parties to stick their political bullshit were the sun dont shine.....lets see you say that to biden and his party....i bet you wont....because you cant.....

Had Kasich been the nominee against Hillary I would have likely voted for him. I think he would have lowered deficits and seems like a person of much greater character than trump or hillary.

Open BORDERS creates a deficits, millions on welfare.. health care. Public schools.. where do you democrats get a education? Burger King?

 

[Harry Dresden]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

I voted for George H.W. Bush in 1988, Bob Dole in 1996, and George W Bush in 2000 - All Republicans. NO MORE! I'm a Democrat now. Conservatives used to care about paying down our national debt, supporting our troops, and our European allies against threats from Communism. Today the party of Trump cares little about any of these, instead focusing on abusing little children on our southern border, sucking up to dictators from Russia, North Korea, and Turkey, and dividing this country as deeply as the days of the civil war.

I didn't agree with everything President Obama did, but America didn't turn into a socialist hellhole, nor did the economy crash on his watch as so many on the right wing predicted. This is the last post I'll do here, claiming I'm an Independent.

Sorry Trump supporters: You lost me - Goodby!

if you were an independent you would have problems with both parties..........

Yes independents do. But Republican's are in control of the Presidency, Senate, and even the supreme court. Their failures really stand out right now. Huge debt, failed pandemic response....

and so an indepent is supposed to think the democrats are going to do better?....

Yes. Things were clearly much better under Obama. Deficits have increased. Almost all trump policy has failed. Tariffs hurt manufacturing. Tax cuts didn't pay for themselves or lead to the promise 4-6% growth. Mexico isn't paying for the wall. Without the partisan blinders it's easy to see how failed trump has been.

yea you are an independent......lol.....

Yes. You can't deny all those failings. Independents don't follow failed policy.

independents have problems with both parties and would not look at biden, a guy who has been part of the reason they are independents as the guy to vote for....

Sadly we have but 2 choices. And trump has been a disaster so Biden gets the support. Again, you can't deny the failings. I'd go back to how things were 4 years ago any day. Country is a mess now and much deeper in debt.

why dont you just say you are democrat and end your charade,,,,

That's all you got? You can't debate the failings? If you can't debate the failings then voting Biden is quite clear.

im debating that you aint no indy...and you are wanting to debate trumps failings...lifelong politicians like joe biden is one of the reasons many people became independents.....for you to support him tells me one thing....you aint no independent....

Then you don't know independents. We pick the best candidate. Trump has clearly been a disaster and you can't seem to deny all his failings. I don't vote for failed policies.

brain you aint no independent your a fucking democrat......politicians like biden are the reason people become independents....and here you are supporting the fucker...

From my experience people become independents when their party is a big fake. I was a republican because they claimed to be small government conservatives. That clearly is not the case. They claimed to be fiscally responsible and have proved that to be false. I agreed when they said a president shouldn't rule by executive order. That went out the window as soon as they got the presidency. I am independent because no party fits me very well.

people become independents because both parties are bullshit .....you gave us why you dont like republicans any more but yet now that other shitty party suddenly fits you real nice....you are no independent....give us a break and quit calling yourself one....

If it fit me really nice I would be a democrat. The dems aren't a great fit, but in recent times they are better than the repubs. See that's being an independent. You partisans just don't get it.

the only partisan between me and you is you......i think both parties are destroying this country with their tit for tat bullshit while you think only one is....if you have problems with both parties you would not vote democrat or republican....being a real independent means telling both parties to stick their political bullshit were the sun dont shine.....lets see you say that to biden and his party....i bet you wont....because you cant.....

So you think independents just don't vote then? Well you are wrong. We have to pick which one will do the least damage. In this case it is clearly Biden. I don't agree with the far left on transgenders. I think one is born a male or a female and the difference is obvious. I think often dems are too quick to throw money at problems that then get worse. Isn't there a strong argument that throwing money at kids so they can go to college has greatly increased the cost of college? Dem failures are not lost on me, but trump has been a disaster...

yes they vote no one said they did not.....an independent would know that and what they vote for.....why dont you?......now i notice you avoided doing what i asked you to do.....i wonder why?...

 

[Brain357]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

I voted for George H.W. Bush in 1988, Bob Dole in 1996, and George W Bush in 2000 - All Republicans. NO MORE! I'm a Democrat now. Conservatives used to care about paying down our national debt, supporting our troops, and our European allies against threats from Communism. Today the party of Trump cares little about any of these, instead focusing on abusing little children on our southern border, sucking up to dictators from Russia, North Korea, and Turkey, and dividing this country as deeply as the days of the civil war.

I didn't agree with everything President Obama did, but America didn't turn into a socialist hellhole, nor did the economy crash on his watch as so many on the right wing predicted. This is the last post I'll do here, claiming I'm an Independent.

Sorry Trump supporters: You lost me - Goodby!

if you were an independent you would have problems with both parties..........

Yes independents do. But Republican's are in control of the Presidency, Senate, and even the supreme court. Their failures really stand out right now. Huge debt, failed pandemic response....

and so an indepent is supposed to think the democrats are going to do better?....

Yes. Things were clearly much better under Obama. Deficits have increased. Almost all trump policy has failed. Tariffs hurt manufacturing. Tax cuts didn't pay for themselves or lead to the promise 4-6% growth. Mexico isn't paying for the wall. Without the partisan blinders it's easy to see how failed trump has been.

yea you are an independent......lol.....

Yes. You can't deny all those failings. Independents don't follow failed policy.

independents have problems with both parties and would not look at biden, a guy who has been part of the reason they are independents as the guy to vote for....

Sadly we have but 2 choices. And trump has been a disaster so Biden gets the support. Again, you can't deny the failings. I'd go back to how things were 4 years ago any day. Country is a mess now and much deeper in debt.

why dont you just say you are democrat and end your charade,,,,

That's all you got? You can't debate the failings? If you can't debate the failings then voting Biden is quite clear.

im debating that you aint no indy...and you are wanting to debate trumps failings...lifelong politicians like joe biden is one of the reasons many people became independents.....for you to support him tells me one thing....you aint no independent....

Then you don't know independents. We pick the best candidate. Trump has clearly been a disaster and you can't seem to deny all his failings. I don't vote for failed policies.

brain you aint no independent your a fucking democrat......politicians like biden are the reason people become independents....and here you are supporting the fucker...

From my experience people become independents when their party is a big fake. I was a republican because they claimed to be small government conservatives. That clearly is not the case. They claimed to be fiscally responsible and have proved that to be false. I agreed when they said a president shouldn't rule by executive order. That went out the window as soon as they got the presidency. I am independent because no party fits me very well.

people become independents because both parties are bullshit .....you gave us why you dont like republicans any more but yet now that other shitty party suddenly fits you real nice....you are no independent....give us a break and quit calling yourself one....

If it fit me really nice I would be a democrat. The dems aren't a great fit, but in recent times they are better than the repubs. See that's being an independent. You partisans just don't get it.

the only partisan between me and you is you......i think both parties are destroying this country with their tit for tat bullshit while you think only one is....if you have problems with both parties you would not vote democrat or republican....being a real independent means telling both parties to stick their political bullshit were the sun dont shine.....lets see you say that to biden and his party....i bet you wont....because you cant.....

Had Kasich been the nominee against Hillary I would have likely voted for him. I think he would have lowered deficits and seems like a person of much greater character than trump or hillary.

Open BORDERS creates a deficits, millions on welfare.. health care. Public schools.. where do you democrats get a education? Burger King?

I don't see open borders. Did obama weaken our laws? Do share a link.

 

[Harry Dresden]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

I voted for George H.W. Bush in 1988, Bob Dole in 1996, and George W Bush in 2000 - All Republicans. NO MORE! I'm a Democrat now. Conservatives used to care about paying down our national debt, supporting our troops, and our European allies against threats from Communism. Today the party of Trump cares little about any of these, instead focusing on abusing little children on our southern border, sucking up to dictators from Russia, North Korea, and Turkey, and dividing this country as deeply as the days of the civil war.

I didn't agree with everything President Obama did, but America didn't turn into a socialist hellhole, nor did the economy crash on his watch as so many on the right wing predicted. This is the last post I'll do here, claiming I'm an Independent.

Sorry Trump supporters: You lost me - Goodby!

if you were an independent you would have problems with both parties..........

Yes independents do. But Republican's are in control of the Presidency, Senate, and even the supreme court. Their failures really stand out right now. Huge debt, failed pandemic response....

and so an indepent is supposed to think the democrats are going to do better?....

Yes. Things were clearly much better under Obama. Deficits have increased. Almost all trump policy has failed. Tariffs hurt manufacturing. Tax cuts didn't pay for themselves or lead to the promise 4-6% growth. Mexico isn't paying for the wall. Without the partisan blinders it's easy to see how failed trump has been.

yea you are an independent......lol.....

Yes. You can't deny all those failings. Independents don't follow failed policy.

independents have problems with both parties and would not look at biden, a guy who has been part of the reason they are independents as the guy to vote for....

Sadly we have but 2 choices. And trump has been a disaster so Biden gets the support. Again, you can't deny the failings. I'd go back to how things were 4 years ago any day. Country is a mess now and much deeper in debt.

why dont you just say you are democrat and end your charade,,,,

That's all you got? You can't debate the failings? If you can't debate the failings then voting Biden is quite clear.

im debating that you aint no indy...and you are wanting to debate trumps failings...lifelong politicians like joe biden is one of the reasons many people became independents.....for you to support him tells me one thing....you aint no independent....

Then you don't know independents. We pick the best candidate. Trump has clearly been a disaster and you can't seem to deny all his failings. I don't vote for failed policies.

brain you aint no independent your a fucking democrat......politicians like biden are the reason people become independents....and here you are supporting the fucker...

From my experience people become independents when their party is a big fake. I was a republican because they claimed to be small government conservatives. That clearly is not the case. They claimed to be fiscally responsible and have proved that to be false. I agreed when they said a president shouldn't rule by executive order. That went out the window as soon as they got the presidency. I am independent because no party fits me very well.

people become independents because both parties are bullshit .....you gave us why you dont like republicans any more but yet now that other shitty party suddenly fits you real nice....you are no independent....give us a break and quit calling yourself one....

If it fit me really nice I would be a democrat. The dems aren't a great fit, but in recent times they are better than the repubs. See that's being an independent. You partisans just don't get it.

the only partisan between me and you is you......i think both parties are destroying this country with their tit for tat bullshit while you think only one is....if you have problems with both parties you would not vote democrat or republican....being a real independent means telling both parties to stick their political bullshit were the sun dont shine.....lets see you say that to biden and his party....i bet you wont....because you cant.....

Had Kasich been the nominee against Hillary I would have likely voted for him. I think he would have lowered deficits and seems like a person of much greater character than trump or hillary.

.being a real independent means telling both parties to stick their political bullshit were the sun dont shine.....lets see you say that to biden and his party....i bet you wont....because you cant..... give it a shot brain......cut the dam cord to that party....

 

[Harry Dresden]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

I voted for George H.W. Bush in 1988, Bob Dole in 1996, and George W Bush in 2000 - All Republicans. NO MORE! I'm a Democrat now. Conservatives used to care about paying down our national debt, supporting our troops, and our European allies against threats from Communism. Today the party of Trump cares little about any of these, instead focusing on abusing little children on our southern border, sucking up to dictators from Russia, North Korea, and Turkey, and dividing this country as deeply as the days of the civil war.

I didn't agree with everything President Obama did, but America didn't turn into a socialist hellhole, nor did the economy crash on his watch as so many on the right wing predicted. This is the last post I'll do here, claiming I'm an Independent.

Sorry Trump supporters: You lost me - Goodby!

if you were an independent you would have problems with both parties..........

Yes independents do. But Republican's are in control of the Presidency, Senate, and even the supreme court. Their failures really stand out right now. Huge debt, failed pandemic response....

and so an indepent is supposed to think the democrats are going to do better?....

Yes. Things were clearly much better under Obama. Deficits have increased. Almost all trump policy has failed. Tariffs hurt manufacturing. Tax cuts didn't pay for themselves or lead to the promise 4-6% growth. Mexico isn't paying for the wall. Without the partisan blinders it's easy to see how failed trump has been.

yea you are an independent......lol.....

Yes. You can't deny all those failings. Independents don't follow failed policy.

independents have problems with both parties and would not look at biden, a guy who has been part of the reason they are independents as the guy to vote for....

Sadly we have but 2 choices. And trump has been a disaster so Biden gets the support. Again, you can't deny the failings. I'd go back to how things were 4 years ago any day. Country is a mess now and much deeper in debt.

why dont you just say you are democrat and end your charade,,,,

That's all you got? You can't debate the failings? If you can't debate the failings then voting Biden is quite clear.

im debating that you aint no indy...and you are wanting to debate trumps failings...lifelong politicians like joe biden is one of the reasons many people became independents.....for you to support him tells me one thing....you aint no independent....

Then you don't know independents. We pick the best candidate. Trump has clearly been a disaster and you can't seem to deny all his failings. I don't vote for failed policies.

brain you aint no independent your a fucking democrat......politicians like biden are the reason people become independents....and here you are supporting the fucker...

From my experience people become independents when their party is a big fake. I was a republican because they claimed to be small government conservatives. That clearly is not the case. They claimed to be fiscally responsible and have proved that to be false. I agreed when they said a president shouldn't rule by executive order. That went out the window as soon as they got the presidency. I am independent because no party fits me very well.

people become independents because both parties are bullshit .....you gave us why you dont like republicans any more but yet now that other shitty party suddenly fits you real nice....you are no independent....give us a break and quit calling yourself one....

If it fit me really nice I would be a democrat. The dems aren't a great fit, but in recent times they are better than the repubs. See that's being an independent. You partisans just don't get it.

the only partisan between me and you is you......i think both parties are destroying this country with their tit for tat bullshit while you think only one is....if you have problems with both parties you would not vote democrat or republican....being a real independent means telling both parties to stick their political bullshit were the sun dont shine.....lets see you say that to biden and his party....i bet you wont....because you cant.....

Had Kasich been the nominee against Hillary I would have likely voted for him. I think he would have lowered deficits and seems like a person of much greater character than trump or hillary.

Open BORDERS creates a deficits, millions on welfare.. health care. Public schools.. where do you democrats get a education? Burger King?

see even jitts is calling you a democrat.....

 

[Brain357]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

I voted for George H.W. Bush in 1988, Bob Dole in 1996, and George W Bush in 2000 - All Republicans. NO MORE! I'm a Democrat now. Conservatives used to care about paying down our national debt, supporting our troops, and our European allies against threats from Communism. Today the party of Trump cares little about any of these, instead focusing on abusing little children on our southern border, sucking up to dictators from Russia, North Korea, and Turkey, and dividing this country as deeply as the days of the civil war.

I didn't agree with everything President Obama did, but America didn't turn into a socialist hellhole, nor did the economy crash on his watch as so many on the right wing predicted. This is the last post I'll do here, claiming I'm an Independent.

Sorry Trump supporters: You lost me - Goodby!

if you were an independent you would have problems with both parties..........

Yes independents do. But Republican's are in control of the Presidency, Senate, and even the supreme court. Their failures really stand out right now. Huge debt, failed pandemic response....

and so an indepent is supposed to think the democrats are going to do better?....

Yes. Things were clearly much better under Obama. Deficits have increased. Almost all trump policy has failed. Tariffs hurt manufacturing. Tax cuts didn't pay for themselves or lead to the promise 4-6% growth. Mexico isn't paying for the wall. Without the partisan blinders it's easy to see how failed trump has been.

yea you are an independent......lol.....

Yes. You can't deny all those failings. Independents don't follow failed policy.

independents have problems with both parties and would not look at biden, a guy who has been part of the reason they are independents as the guy to vote for....

Sadly we have but 2 choices. And trump has been a disaster so Biden gets the support. Again, you can't deny the failings. I'd go back to how things were 4 years ago any day. Country is a mess now and much deeper in debt.

why dont you just say you are democrat and end your charade,,,,

That's all you got? You can't debate the failings? If you can't debate the failings then voting Biden is quite clear.

im debating that you aint no indy...and you are wanting to debate trumps failings...lifelong politicians like joe biden is one of the reasons many people became independents.....for you to support him tells me one thing....you aint no independent....

Then you don't know independents. We pick the best candidate. Trump has clearly been a disaster and you can't seem to deny all his failings. I don't vote for failed policies.

brain you aint no independent your a fucking democrat......politicians like biden are the reason people become independents....and here you are supporting the fucker...

From my experience people become independents when their party is a big fake. I was a republican because they claimed to be small government conservatives. That clearly is not the case. They claimed to be fiscally responsible and have proved that to be false. I agreed when they said a president shouldn't rule by executive order. That went out the window as soon as they got the presidency. I am independent because no party fits me very well.

people become independents because both parties are bullshit .....you gave us why you dont like republicans any more but yet now that other shitty party suddenly fits you real nice....you are no independent....give us a break and quit calling yourself one....

If it fit me really nice I would be a democrat. The dems aren't a great fit, but in recent times they are better than the repubs. See that's being an independent. You partisans just don't get it.

the only partisan between me and you is you......i think both parties are destroying this country with their tit for tat bullshit while you think only one is....if you have problems with both parties you would not vote democrat or republican....being a real independent means telling both parties to stick their political bullshit were the sun dont shine.....lets see you say that to biden and his party....i bet you wont....because you cant.....

So you think independents just don't vote then? Well you are wrong. We have to pick which one will do the least damage. In this case it is clearly Biden. I don't agree with the far left on transgenders. I think one is born a male or a female and the difference is obvious. I think often dems are too quick to throw money at problems that then get worse. Isn't there a strong argument that throwing money at kids so they can go to college has greatly increased the cost of college? Dem failures are not lost on me, but trump has been a disaster...

yes they vote no one said they did not.....an independent would know that and what they vote for.....why dont you?......now i notice you avoided doing what i asked you to do.....i wonder why?...

I just said they are wrong on certain specific things. What exactly are you asking for? You act like I can't choose biden over trump and be an independent. You seem really confused.

 

[Brain357]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

I voted for George H.W. Bush in 1988, Bob Dole in 1996, and George W Bush in 2000 - All Republicans. NO MORE! I'm a Democrat now. Conservatives used to care about paying down our national debt, supporting our troops, and our European allies against threats from Communism. Today the party of Trump cares little about any of these, instead focusing on abusing little children on our southern border, sucking up to dictators from Russia, North Korea, and Turkey, and dividing this country as deeply as the days of the civil war.

I didn't agree with everything President Obama did, but America didn't turn into a socialist hellhole, nor did the economy crash on his watch as so many on the right wing predicted. This is the last post I'll do here, claiming I'm an Independent.

Sorry Trump supporters: You lost me - Goodby!

if you were an independent you would have problems with both parties..........

Yes independents do. But Republican's are in control of the Presidency, Senate, and even the supreme court. Their failures really stand out right now. Huge debt, failed pandemic response....

and so an indepent is supposed to think the democrats are going to do better?....

Yes. Things were clearly much better under Obama. Deficits have increased. Almost all trump policy has failed. Tariffs hurt manufacturing. Tax cuts didn't pay for themselves or lead to the promise 4-6% growth. Mexico isn't paying for the wall. Without the partisan blinders it's easy to see how failed trump has been.

yea you are an independent......lol.....

Yes. You can't deny all those failings. Independents don't follow failed policy.

independents have problems with both parties and would not look at biden, a guy who has been part of the reason they are independents as the guy to vote for....

Sadly we have but 2 choices. And trump has been a disaster so Biden gets the support. Again, you can't deny the failings. I'd go back to how things were 4 years ago any day. Country is a mess now and much deeper in debt.

why dont you just say you are democrat and end your charade,,,,

That's all you got? You can't debate the failings? If you can't debate the failings then voting Biden is quite clear.

im debating that you aint no indy...and you are wanting to debate trumps failings...lifelong politicians like joe biden is one of the reasons many people became independents.....for you to support him tells me one thing....you aint no independent....

Then you don't know independents. We pick the best candidate. Trump has clearly been a disaster and you can't seem to deny all his failings. I don't vote for failed policies.

brain you aint no independent your a fucking democrat......politicians like biden are the reason people become independents....and here you are supporting the fucker...

From my experience people become independents when their party is a big fake. I was a republican because they claimed to be small government conservatives. That clearly is not the case. They claimed to be fiscally responsible and have proved that to be false. I agreed when they said a president shouldn't rule by executive order. That went out the window as soon as they got the presidency. I am independent because no party fits me very well.

people become independents because both parties are bullshit .....you gave us why you dont like republicans any more but yet now that other shitty party suddenly fits you real nice....you are no independent....give us a break and quit calling yourself one....

If it fit me really nice I would be a democrat. The dems aren't a great fit, but in recent times they are better than the repubs. See that's being an independent. You partisans just don't get it.

the only partisan between me and you is you......i think both parties are destroying this country with their tit for tat bullshit while you think only one is....if you have problems with both parties you would not vote democrat or republican....being a real independent means telling both parties to stick their political bullshit were the sun dont shine.....lets see you say that to biden and his party....i bet you wont....because you cant.....

Had Kasich been the nominee against Hillary I would have likely voted for him. I think he would have lowered deficits and seems like a person of much greater character than trump or hillary.

Open BORDERS creates a deficits, millions on welfare.. health care. Public schools.. where do you democrats get a education? Burger King?

see even jitts is calling you a democrat.....

jits also seems to think repubs are not big government....

 

[Jitss617]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

I voted for George H.W. Bush in 1988, Bob Dole in 1996, and George W Bush in 2000 - All Republicans. NO MORE! I'm a Democrat now. Conservatives used to care about paying down our national debt, supporting our troops, and our European allies against threats from Communism. Today the party of Trump cares little about any of these, instead focusing on abusing little children on our southern border, sucking up to dictators from Russia, North Korea, and Turkey, and dividing this country as deeply as the days of the civil war.

I didn't agree with everything President Obama did, but America didn't turn into a socialist hellhole, nor did the economy crash on his watch as so many on the right wing predicted. This is the last post I'll do here, claiming I'm an Independent.

Sorry Trump supporters: You lost me - Goodby!

if you were an independent you would have problems with both parties..........

Yes independents do. But Republican's are in control of the Presidency, Senate, and even the supreme court. Their failures really stand out right now. Huge debt, failed pandemic response....

and so an indepent is supposed to think the democrats are going to do better?....

Yes. Things were clearly much better under Obama. Deficits have increased. Almost all trump policy has failed. Tariffs hurt manufacturing. Tax cuts didn't pay for themselves or lead to the promise 4-6% growth. Mexico isn't paying for the wall. Without the partisan blinders it's easy to see how failed trump has been.

yea you are an independent......lol.....

Yes. You can't deny all those failings. Independents don't follow failed policy.

independents have problems with both parties and would not look at biden, a guy who has been part of the reason they are independents as the guy to vote for....

Sadly we have but 2 choices. And trump has been a disaster so Biden gets the support. Again, you can't deny the failings. I'd go back to how things were 4 years ago any day. Country is a mess now and much deeper in debt.

why dont you just say you are democrat and end your charade,,,,

That's all you got? You can't debate the failings? If you can't debate the failings then voting Biden is quite clear.

im debating that you aint no indy...and you are wanting to debate trumps failings...lifelong politicians like joe biden is one of the reasons many people became independents.....for you to support him tells me one thing....you aint no independent....

Then you don't know independents. We pick the best candidate. Trump has clearly been a disaster and you can't seem to deny all his failings. I don't vote for failed policies.

brain you aint no independent your a fucking democrat......politicians like biden are the reason people become independents....and here you are supporting the fucker...

From my experience people become independents when their party is a big fake. I was a republican because they claimed to be small government conservatives. That clearly is not the case. They claimed to be fiscally responsible and have proved that to be false. I agreed when they said a president shouldn't rule by executive order. That went out the window as soon as they got the presidency. I am independent because no party fits me very well.

people become independents because both parties are bullshit .....you gave us why you dont like republicans any more but yet now that other shitty party suddenly fits you real nice....you are no independent....give us a break and quit calling yourself one....

If it fit me really nice I would be a democrat. The dems aren't a great fit, but in recent times they are better than the repubs. See that's being an independent. You partisans just don't get it.

the only partisan between me and you is you......i think both parties are destroying this country with their tit for tat bullshit while you think only one is....if you have problems with both parties you would not vote democrat or republican....being a real independent means telling both parties to stick their political bullshit were the sun dont shine.....lets see you say that to biden and his party....i bet you wont....because you cant.....

Had Kasich been the nominee against Hillary I would have likely voted for him. I think he would have lowered deficits and seems like a person of much greater character than trump or hillary.

Open BORDERS creates a deficits, millions on welfare.. health care. Public schools.. where do you democrats get a education? Burger King?

I don't see open borders. Did obama weaken our laws? Do share a link.

Seriously

 

[Harry Dresden]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

I voted for George H.W. Bush in 1988, Bob Dole in 1996, and George W Bush in 2000 - All Republicans. NO MORE! I'm a Democrat now. Conservatives used to care about paying down our national debt, supporting our troops, and our European allies against threats from Communism. Today the party of Trump cares little about any of these, instead focusing on abusing little children on our southern border, sucking up to dictators from Russia, North Korea, and Turkey, and dividing this country as deeply as the days of the civil war.

I didn't agree with everything President Obama did, but America didn't turn into a socialist hellhole, nor did the economy crash on his watch as so many on the right wing predicted. This is the last post I'll do here, claiming I'm an Independent.

Sorry Trump supporters: You lost me - Goodby!

if you were an independent you would have problems with both parties..........

Yes independents do. But Republican's are in control of the Presidency, Senate, and even the supreme court. Their failures really stand out right now. Huge debt, failed pandemic response....

and so an indepent is supposed to think the democrats are going to do better?....

Yes. Things were clearly much better under Obama. Deficits have increased. Almost all trump policy has failed. Tariffs hurt manufacturing. Tax cuts didn't pay for themselves or lead to the promise 4-6% growth. Mexico isn't paying for the wall. Without the partisan blinders it's easy to see how failed trump has been.

yea you are an independent......lol.....

Yes. You can't deny all those failings. Independents don't follow failed policy.

independents have problems with both parties and would not look at biden, a guy who has been part of the reason they are independents as the guy to vote for....

Sadly we have but 2 choices. And trump has been a disaster so Biden gets the support. Again, you can't deny the failings. I'd go back to how things were 4 years ago any day. Country is a mess now and much deeper in debt.

why dont you just say you are democrat and end your charade,,,,

That's all you got? You can't debate the failings? If you can't debate the failings then voting Biden is quite clear.

im debating that you aint no indy...and you are wanting to debate trumps failings...lifelong politicians like joe biden is one of the reasons many people became independents.....for you to support him tells me one thing....you aint no independent....

Then you don't know independents. We pick the best candidate. Trump has clearly been a disaster and you can't seem to deny all his failings. I don't vote for failed policies.

brain you aint no independent your a fucking democrat......politicians like biden are the reason people become independents....and here you are supporting the fucker...

From my experience people become independents when their party is a big fake. I was a republican because they claimed to be small government conservatives. That clearly is not the case. They claimed to be fiscally responsible and have proved that to be false. I agreed when they said a president shouldn't rule by executive order. That went out the window as soon as they got the presidency. I am independent because no party fits me very well.

people become independents because both parties are bullshit .....you gave us why you dont like republicans any more but yet now that other shitty party suddenly fits you real nice....you are no independent....give us a break and quit calling yourself one....

If it fit me really nice I would be a democrat. The dems aren't a great fit, but in recent times they are better than the repubs. See that's being an independent. You partisans just don't get it.

the only partisan between me and you is you......i think both parties are destroying this country with their tit for tat bullshit while you think only one is....if you have problems with both parties you would not vote democrat or republican....being a real independent means telling both parties to stick their political bullshit were the sun dont shine.....lets see you say that to biden and his party....i bet you wont....because you cant.....

So you think independents just don't vote then? Well you are wrong. We have to pick which one will do the least damage. In this case it is clearly Biden. I don't agree with the far left on transgenders. I think one is born a male or a female and the difference is obvious. I think often dems are too quick to throw money at problems that then get worse. Isn't there a strong argument that throwing money at kids so they can go to college has greatly increased the cost of college? Dem failures are not lost on me, but trump has been a disaster...

yes they vote no one said they did not.....an independent would know that and what they vote for.....why dont you?......now i notice you avoided doing what i asked you to do.....i wonder why?...

I just said they are wrong on certain specific things. What exactly are you asking for? You act like I can't choose biden over trump and be an independent. You seem really confused.

i think you are the one who is confused.....you dont vote for one of the guys who helped push people to be independents.......and then say you are one...

 

[Brain357]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

I voted for George H.W. Bush in 1988, Bob Dole in 1996, and George W Bush in 2000 - All Republicans. NO MORE! I'm a Democrat now. Conservatives used to care about paying down our national debt, supporting our troops, and our European allies against threats from Communism. Today the party of Trump cares little about any of these, instead focusing on abusing little children on our southern border, sucking up to dictators from Russia, North Korea, and Turkey, and dividing this country as deeply as the days of the civil war.

I didn't agree with everything President Obama did, but America didn't turn into a socialist hellhole, nor did the economy crash on his watch as so many on the right wing predicted. This is the last post I'll do here, claiming I'm an Independent.

Sorry Trump supporters: You lost me - Goodby!

if you were an independent you would have problems with both parties..........

Yes independents do. But Republican's are in control of the Presidency, Senate, and even the supreme court. Their failures really stand out right now. Huge debt, failed pandemic response....

and so an indepent is supposed to think the democrats are going to do better?....

Yes. Things were clearly much better under Obama. Deficits have increased. Almost all trump policy has failed. Tariffs hurt manufacturing. Tax cuts didn't pay for themselves or lead to the promise 4-6% growth. Mexico isn't paying for the wall. Without the partisan blinders it's easy to see how failed trump has been.

yea you are an independent......lol.....

Yes. You can't deny all those failings. Independents don't follow failed policy.

independents have problems with both parties and would not look at biden, a guy who has been part of the reason they are independents as the guy to vote for....

Sadly we have but 2 choices. And trump has been a disaster so Biden gets the support. Again, you can't deny the failings. I'd go back to how things were 4 years ago any day. Country is a mess now and much deeper in debt.

why dont you just say you are democrat and end your charade,,,,

That's all you got? You can't debate the failings? If you can't debate the failings then voting Biden is quite clear.

im debating that you aint no indy...and you are wanting to debate trumps failings...lifelong politicians like joe biden is one of the reasons many people became independents.....for you to support him tells me one thing....you aint no independent....

Then you don't know independents. We pick the best candidate. Trump has clearly been a disaster and you can't seem to deny all his failings. I don't vote for failed policies.

brain you aint no independent your a fucking democrat......politicians like biden are the reason people become independents....and here you are supporting the fucker...

From my experience people become independents when their party is a big fake. I was a republican because they claimed to be small government conservatives. That clearly is not the case. They claimed to be fiscally responsible and have proved that to be false. I agreed when they said a president shouldn't rule by executive order. That went out the window as soon as they got the presidency. I am independent because no party fits me very well.

people become independents because both parties are bullshit .....you gave us why you dont like republicans any more but yet now that other shitty party suddenly fits you real nice....you are no independent....give us a break and quit calling yourself one....

If it fit me really nice I would be a democrat. The dems aren't a great fit, but in recent times they are better than the repubs. See that's being an independent. You partisans just don't get it.

the only partisan between me and you is you......i think both parties are destroying this country with their tit for tat bullshit while you think only one is....if you have problems with both parties you would not vote democrat or republican....being a real independent means telling both parties to stick their political bullshit were the sun dont shine.....lets see you say that to biden and his party....i bet you wont....because you cant.....

Had Kasich been the nominee against Hillary I would have likely voted for him. I think he would have lowered deficits and seems like a person of much greater character than trump or hillary.

Open BORDERS creates a deficits, millions on welfare.. health care. Public schools.. where do you democrats get a education? Burger King?

I don't see open borders. Did obama weaken our laws? Do share a link.

Seriously

Seriously. Also please share all the benefits of our current policy. What exactly is better? Deficits are increasing hugely. Did trump open up the border?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

I voted for George H.W. Bush in 1988, Bob Dole in 1996, and George W Bush in 2000 - All Republicans. NO MORE! I'm a Democrat now. Conservatives used to care about paying down our national debt, supporting our troops, and our European allies against threats from Communism. Today the party of Trump cares little about any of these, instead focusing on abusing little children on our southern border, sucking up to dictators from Russia, North Korea, and Turkey, and dividing this country as deeply as the days of the civil war.

I didn't agree with everything President Obama did, but America didn't turn into a socialist hellhole, nor did the economy crash on his watch as so many on the right wing predicted. This is the last post I'll do here, claiming I'm an Independent.

Sorry Trump supporters: You lost me - Goodby!

Obama was abusing kids on the border long before Trump ever decided to run for President. Surely you knew that.

We are not a war with any of those countries thanks to Trump.

The divisions are made by the libtards who are anti-American pieces of shit.

What is "Goodby"?

 

[BrokeLoser]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

I voted for George H.W. Bush in 1988, Bob Dole in 1996, and George W Bush in 2000 - All Republicans. NO MORE! I'm a Democrat now. Conservatives used to care about paying down our national debt, supporting our troops, and our European allies against threats from Communism. Today the party of Trump cares little about any of these, instead focusing on abusing little children on our southern border, sucking up to dictators from Russia, North Korea, and Turkey, and dividing this country as deeply as the days of the civil war.

I didn't agree with everything President Obama did, but America didn't turn into a socialist hellhole, nor did the economy crash on his watch as so many on the right wing predicted. This is the last post I'll do here, claiming I'm an Independent.

Sorry Trump supporters: You lost me - Goodby!

Let’s be totally honest…like Mac1958 you were never an independent...you two have always been leftarded as fuck...if you truly were an independent you couldn’t lean towards lawlessness, hate law enforcement, free shit for wetbacks, blacks are amazing, hate whitey, higher taxes and Make America Mexico Again...haha
You can’t be serious?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

I voted for George H.W. Bush in 1988, Bob Dole in 1996, and George W Bush in 2000 - All Republicans. NO MORE! I'm a Democrat now. Conservatives used to care about paying down our national debt, supporting our troops, and our European allies against threats from Communism. Today the party of Trump cares little about any of these, instead focusing on abusing little children on our southern border, sucking up to dictators from Russia, North Korea, and Turkey, and dividing this country as deeply as the days of the civil war.

I didn't agree with everything President Obama did, but America didn't turn into a socialist hellhole, nor did the economy crash on his watch as so many on the right wing predicted. This is the last post I'll do here, claiming I'm an Independent.

Sorry Trump supporters: You lost me - Goodby!

if you were an independent you would have problems with both parties..........

Yes independents do. But Republican's are in control of the Presidency, Senate, and even the supreme court. Their failures really stand out right now. Huge debt, failed pandemic response....

and so an indepent is supposed to think the democrats are going to do better?....

Yes. Things were clearly much better under Obama. Deficits have increased. Almost all trump policy has failed. Tariffs hurt manufacturing. Tax cuts didn't pay for themselves or lead to the promise 4-6% growth. Mexico isn't paying for the wall. Without the partisan blinders it's easy to see how failed trump has been.

Manufacturing is growing like weeds, What planet do you live on? The wall is being built and Mexico has stationed troops along the border to prevent illegals from crossing.

The only partisan blinders are the ones you are wearing.

 

[Jitss617]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

I voted for George H.W. Bush in 1988, Bob Dole in 1996, and George W Bush in 2000 - All Republicans. NO MORE! I'm a Democrat now. Conservatives used to care about paying down our national debt, supporting our troops, and our European allies against threats from Communism. Today the party of Trump cares little about any of these, instead focusing on abusing little children on our southern border, sucking up to dictators from Russia, North Korea, and Turkey, and dividing this country as deeply as the days of the civil war.

I didn't agree with everything President Obama did, but America didn't turn into a socialist hellhole, nor did the economy crash on his watch as so many on the right wing predicted. This is the last post I'll do here, claiming I'm an Independent.

Sorry Trump supporters: You lost me - Goodby!

if you were an independent you would have problems with both parties..........

Yes independents do. But Republican's are in control of the Presidency, Senate, and even the supreme court. Their failures really stand out right now. Huge debt, failed pandemic response....

and so an indepent is supposed to think the democrats are going to do better?....

Yes. Things were clearly much better under Obama. Deficits have increased. Almost all trump policy has failed. Tariffs hurt manufacturing. Tax cuts didn't pay for themselves or lead to the promise 4-6% growth. Mexico isn't paying for the wall. Without the partisan blinders it's easy to see how failed trump has been.

yea you are an independent......lol.....

Yes. You can't deny all those failings. Independents don't follow failed policy.

independents have problems with both parties and would not look at biden, a guy who has been part of the reason they are independents as the guy to vote for....

Sadly we have but 2 choices. And trump has been a disaster so Biden gets the support. Again, you can't deny the failings. I'd go back to how things were 4 years ago any day. Country is a mess now and much deeper in debt.

why dont you just say you are democrat and end your charade,,,,

That's all you got? You can't debate the failings? If you can't debate the failings then voting Biden is quite clear.

im debating that you aint no indy...and you are wanting to debate trumps failings...lifelong politicians like joe biden is one of the reasons many people became independents.....for you to support him tells me one thing....you aint no independent....

Then you don't know independents. We pick the best candidate. Trump has clearly been a disaster and you can't seem to deny all his failings. I don't vote for failed policies.

brain you aint no independent your a fucking democrat......politicians like biden are the reason people become independents....and here you are supporting the fucker...

From my experience people become independents when their party is a big fake. I was a republican because they claimed to be small government conservatives. That clearly is not the case. They claimed to be fiscally responsible and have proved that to be false. I agreed when they said a president shouldn't rule by executive order. That went out the window as soon as they got the presidency. I am independent because no party fits me very well.

people become independents because both parties are bullshit .....you gave us why you dont like republicans any more but yet now that other shitty party suddenly fits you real nice....you are no independent....give us a break and quit calling yourself one....

If it fit me really nice I would be a democrat. The dems aren't a great fit, but in recent times they are better than the repubs. See that's being an independent. You partisans just don't get it.

the only partisan between me and you is you......i think both parties are destroying this country with their tit for tat bullshit while you think only one is....if you have problems with both parties you would not vote democrat or republican....being a real independent means telling both parties to stick their political bullshit were the sun dont shine.....lets see you say that to biden and his party....i bet you wont....because you cant.....

Had Kasich been the nominee against Hillary I would have likely voted for him. I think he would have lowered deficits and seems like a person of much greater character than trump or hillary.

Open BORDERS creates a deficits, millions on welfare.. health care. Public schools.. where do you democrats get a education? Burger King?

I don't see open borders. Did obama weaken our laws? Do share a link.

Seriously

Seriously. Also please share all the benefits of our current policy. What exactly is better? Deficits are increasing hugely. Did trump open up the border?

Are you saying Obama stoped illegals from crossing? Lol

 

[francoHFW]

The only way someone "turns into" a democrook is either because of sudden severe brain damage, or they've thrown their moral compass away and want to get rich through political corruption.


.

Talk about throwing the moral compass away. You support a guy on his 3rd wife who he cheated on with porn stars. He's also making Obama look fiscally responsible. Your compass seems rather broke....

He believes hundreds of ridiculous phony scandals and conspiracy theories and misinformation. none of which go anywhere in the real world of journalism and law enforcement. Another brainwashed functional moron. Meanwhile his Republican heroes Rob the country blind and screw the non-rich.....

Bush and Dole were not conservatives but “Deep state “
Bush was a bumbling buffoon and Obama was a true Marxist

Oh no not healthcare oh my God the horror! Why are we the only modern country without a living wage health Care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations? because of the lying thieving cheating greedy idiot billionaire GOP and their silly dupes

 

[Brain357]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT

I voted for George H.W. Bush in 1988, Bob Dole in 1996, and George W Bush in 2000 - All Republicans. NO MORE! I'm a Democrat now. Conservatives used to care about paying down our national debt, supporting our troops, and our European allies against threats from Communism. Today the party of Trump cares little about any of these, instead focusing on abusing little children on our southern border, sucking up to dictators from Russia, North Korea, and Turkey, and dividing this country as deeply as the days of the civil war.

I didn't agree with everything President Obama did, but America didn't turn into a socialist hellhole, nor did the economy crash on his watch as so many on the right wing predicted. This is the last post I'll do here, claiming I'm an Independent.

Sorry Trump supporters: You lost me - Goodby!

if you were an independent you would have problems with both parties..........

Yes independents do. But Republican's are in control of the Presidency, Senate, and even the supreme court. Their failures really stand out right now. Huge debt, failed pandemic response....

and so an indepent is supposed to think the democrats are going to do better?....

Yes. Things were clearly much better under Obama. Deficits have increased. Almost all trump policy has failed. Tariffs hurt manufacturing. Tax cuts didn't pay for themselves or lead to the promise 4-6% growth. Mexico isn't paying for the wall. Without the partisan blinders it's easy to see how failed trump has been.

Manufacturing is growing like weeds, What planet do you live on? The wall is being built and Mexico has stationed troops along the border to prevent illegals from crossing.

The only partisan blinders are the ones you are wearing.

You clearly have no clue....

US manufacturing plunges deeper into recession

America's manufacturing downturn isn't letting up. Factory activity contracted for the fifth consecutive month in December, registering a worse drop than expected.

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