CDZ Why is prostitution illegal?

[Asclepias]

I already pointed out the error in your logic.

There is no error.

Assault weapons have nothing to do with prostitutes.

Victimless crimes. Analogy: sound

I accept your concession.

This is a lie; you and I both know you have done nothing to show how my analogy is unsound.

Your concession you made a terrible analogy is duly noted.

You and I both know my analogy was spot-on, you simply do not have the honesty to admit it.

Your analogy was dumb. You know that but have no shame in regards to it.

 

[M14 Shooter]

There is no error.
Victimless crimes. Analogy: sound

I accept your concession.

This is a lie; you and I both know you have done nothing to show how my analogy is unsound.

Your concession you made a terrible analogy is duly noted.

You and I both know my analogy was spot-on, you simply do not have the honesty to admit it.

Your analogy was dumb. You know that but have no shame in regards to it.

You and I both know my analogy was spot-on, you simply do not have the honesty to admit it.

 

[Steinlight]

No victims, except for prostitutes themselves...

Someone offers you $10 to have sex with them.
You consider it for a half-second, have sex, collect your $10.
How are you a victim?

Answer the question. When was the last time you kissed a woman not family.

Translation: You know you are not a victim in the above scenario, but do not want to admit it because it destroys your position.

You don't seem understand that there is more than just one person in the act of sexual relations. Well maybe you don't as your only relation is with your hand. The issue isn't about the individual paying for sex. He is the exploiter. The prostitute is the victim as she is engaging in self harm.
But yea prostitution should be legal so you shouldn't feel ashamed about having to pay for sex.

Someone offers you $10 to have sex with them.
You consider it for a half-second, have sex, collect your $10.
How are you a victim?

No one said you were the victim. You are the exploiter. She is the victim as she is harming herself. You can keep repeating this question. I will keep giving you the same reply.

Also, answer my question since I answered yours. When was the last time you had sex you didn't pay for.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Someone offers you $10 to have sex with them.
You consider it for a half-second, have sex, collect your $10.
How are you a victim?

Answer the question. When was the last time you kissed a woman not family.

Translation: You know you are not a victim in the above scenario, but do not want to admit it because it destroys your position.

You don't seem understand that there is more than just one person in the act of sexual relations. Well maybe you don't as your only relation is with your hand. The issue isn't about the individual paying for sex. He is the exploiter. The prostitute is the victim as she is engaging in self harm.
But yea prostitution should be legal so you shouldn't feel ashamed about having to pay for sex.

Someone offers you $10 to have sex with them.
You consider it for a half-second, have sex, collect your $10.
How are you a victim?

No one said you were the victim. You are the exploiter. She is the victim as she is harming herself. You can keep repeating this question. I will keep giving you the same reply.

:doh:
How are you harming yourself by willfully and freely accepting money to have sex?
If you told that someone you'd not take the money but have sex for free, would that remove your argument for "harm"?
How so?

 

[Asclepias]

I accept your concession.

This is a lie; you and I both know you have done nothing to show how my analogy is unsound.

Your concession you made a terrible analogy is duly noted.

You and I both know my analogy was spot-on, you simply do not have the honesty to admit it.

Your analogy was dumb. You know that but have no shame in regards to it.

You and I both know my analogy was spot-on, you simply do not have the honesty to admit it.

Your analogy was dumb. You know that but have no shame in regards to it.

 

[M14 Shooter]

This is a lie; you and I both know you have done nothing to show how my analogy is unsound.

Your concession you made a terrible analogy is duly noted.

You and I both know my analogy was spot-on, you simply do not have the honesty to admit it.

Your analogy was dumb. You know that but have no shame in regards to it.

You and I both know my analogy was spot-on, you simply do not have the honesty to admit it.

Your analogy was dumb. You know that but have no shame in regards to it.

You and I both know my analogy was spot-on, you simply do not have the honesty to admit it.

 

[Asclepias]

Your concession you made a terrible analogy is duly noted.

You and I both know my analogy was spot-on, you simply do not have the honesty to admit it.

Your analogy was dumb. You know that but have no shame in regards to it.

You and I both know my analogy was spot-on, you simply do not have the honesty to admit it.

Your analogy was dumb. You know that but have no shame in regards to it.

You and I both know my analogy was spot-on, you simply do not have the honesty to admit it.

Your analogy was dumb. You know that but have no shame in regards to it.

 

[Katzndogz]

Prostitution is a victimless crime.
Just like owning an 'assault weapon' in CA.

Except for the women...

Consenting adult. No victim.

Prostitution is a victimless crime.
Just like owning an 'assault weapon' in CA.

Except for the women...

Consenting adult. No victim.

Your claim they are consenting is dubious at best. Given most are drug addicted, forced into the industry, impoverished or from a broken home. They are for the most part mentally and emotionally damaged and on top of being exploited and abused by their bosses. Their agency is questionable at best. Besides that, one can be the victim of their own actions. If you can't understand how someone can be damaged emotionally from selling their body and all the other vices that come with it, I question your common sense and your understand of sexual relations.

Once you accept that a person has the right to damage themselves emotionally and physically how can you stop them from exercising that right? Not every pro is a drug addicted street hooker. Some are very high end and expensive escorts with college degrees. In their minds they are exploiting the weakness of their customers. Do they have a right to choose to be prostitutes? Should only the beautiful and accomplished be legal prostitutes?

 

[Steinlight]

Prostitution is a victimless crime.
Just like owning an 'assault weapon' in CA.

Except for the women...

Consenting adult. No victim.

Prostitution is a victimless crime.
Just like owning an 'assault weapon' in CA.

Except for the women...

Consenting adult. No victim.

Your claim they are consenting is dubious at best. Given most are drug addicted, forced into the industry, impoverished or from a broken home. They are for the most part mentally and emotionally damaged and on top of being exploited and abused by their bosses. Their agency is questionable at best. Besides that, one can be the victim of their own actions. If you can't understand how someone can be damaged emotionally from selling their body and all the other vices that come with it, I question your common sense and your understand of sexual relations.

Once you accept that a person has the right to damage themselves emotionally and physically how can you stop them from exercising that right? Not every pro is a drug addicted street hooker. Some are very high end and expensive escorts with college degrees. In their minds they are exploiting the weakness of their customers. Do they have a right to choose to be prostitutes? Should only the beautiful and accomplished be legal prostitutes?

Just because they have college degrees doesn't mean they aren't harming themselves. Many in college engage in all kinds of selfvdestructive behaviors from cheap sex to drug and alcohol abuse. Most of these middle prostitutes from a more middle or upper class background obviously grew up with family issues to some degree, or have some mental illness or they wouldn't be in such work.

The idea no one is harmed from prostitution is foolish.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The idea no one is harmed from prostitution is foolish.

How are you harming yourself by willfully and freely accepting money to have sex?
If you told that someone you'd not take the money but have sex for free, would that remove your argument for "harm"?
How so?

 

[Katzndogz]

Prostitution is a victimless crime.
Just like owning an 'assault weapon' in CA.

Except for the women...

Consenting adult. No victim.

Prostitution is a victimless crime.
Just like owning an 'assault weapon' in CA.

Except for the women...

Consenting adult. No victim.

Your claim they are consenting is dubious at best. Given most are drug addicted, forced into the industry, impoverished or from a broken home. They are for the most part mentally and emotionally damaged and on top of being exploited and abused by their bosses. Their agency is questionable at best. Besides that, one can be the victim of their own actions. If you can't understand how someone can be damaged emotionally from selling their body and all the other vices that come with it, I question your common sense and your understand of sexual relations.

Once you accept that a person has the right to damage themselves emotionally and physically how can you stop them from exercising that right? Not every pro is a drug addicted street hooker. Some are very high end and expensive escorts with college degrees. In their minds they are exploiting the weakness of their customers. Do they have a right to choose to be prostitutes? Should only the beautiful and accomplished be legal prostitutes?

Just because they have college degrees doesn't mean they aren't harming themselves. Many in college engage in all kinds of selfvdestructive behaviors from cheap sex to drug and alcohol abuse. Most of these middle prostitutes from a more middle or upper class background obviously grew up with family issues to some degree, or have some mental illness or they wouldn't be in such work.

The idea no one is harmed from prostitution is foolish.

While I agree with you. It's still a personal decision as people do have the right to engage in risky or dangerous behavior.

Prostitution became illegal when prostitutes began spreading disease and men started dying. Particularly sailors who patronized the whores in port cities. The men would sicken at sea from these diseased "fire ships". A ship could lose enough crew to cripple the ship. That's how prostitution became illegal.

 

[Steinlight]

Answer the question. When was the last time you kissed a woman not family.

Translation: You know you are not a victim in the above scenario, but do not want to admit it because it destroys your position.

You don't seem understand that there is more than just one person in the act of sexual relations. Well maybe you don't as your only relation is with your hand. The issue isn't about the individual paying for sex. He is the exploiter. The prostitute is the victim as she is engaging in self harm.
But yea prostitution should be legal so you shouldn't feel ashamed about having to pay for sex.

Someone offers you $10 to have sex with them.
You consider it for a half-second, have sex, collect your $10.
How are you a victim?

No one said you were the victim. You are the exploiter. She is the victim as she is harming herself. You can keep repeating this question. I will keep giving you the same reply.

:doh:
How are you harming yourself by willfully and freely accepting money to have sex?
If you told that someone you'd not take the money but have sex for free, would that remove your argument for "harm"?
How so?

Prostitution and the resulting promiscuity is harmful form of destructive self medication for abused and/or depressed individuals that feeds further psychological damage, not to mention the obvious increase in likelihood of contracting STDs.

Symptoms of Posttraumatic Stress Disorder and Mental Health in Women Who Escaped Prostitution and Helping Activists in Shelters

The 193 interviewed female sex workers displayed high rates

of mental disorders. These mental disorders were related to violence

and the subjectively perceived burden of sex work...


We found high rates of mental disorders among female sex workers. In particular 1-year prevalence


rates were high what points to the immediate burden associated with sex work...

As has been shown by other studies, female sex workers frequently are exposed to high levels of


violence. Violence proved to be an important correlate of mental disorders....

https://www.collegium.ethz.ch/fileadmin/autoren/pdf_papers/10_roessler_sexwork.pdf

This study assessed the mental health characteristics of 12 male street prostitutes (MSPs) in Dublin, with particular regard to issues of homelessness, substance abuse, depression, suicidal ideation, and self-esteem. Participants completed five psychometric tests, which indicated that all of the participants had above average levels of depression and suicidal ideation and low levels of self-esteem. This study found that candidates likely to become MSPs are young males with a combination of factors, including a background of childhood sexual or physical abuse, leaving school early, running away from home, and a dependence on heroin.

Male street prostitution in Dublin a psychological analysis. - PubMed - NCBI

A recent longitudinal study published in the Journal of Abnormal Psychology suggests that teenagers who engage in casual sex are more likely to suffer from depression than their peers who don’t engage in casual sex...


The study does indicate a strong correlation between casual sex and depression in teens, as a matter of fact the relationship between casual sex and depression is so striking, that the symptoms of depression and full onset of clinical depression becomes more pronounced for teenagers who are fifteen and younger and have engaged in casual sex.

A Link Between Sexual Promiscuity and Depression in Teens Psychology Today

 

[Steinlight]

Except for the women...

Consenting adult. No victim.

Except for the women...

Consenting adult. No victim.

Your claim they are consenting is dubious at best. Given most are drug addicted, forced into the industry, impoverished or from a broken home. They are for the most part mentally and emotionally damaged and on top of being exploited and abused by their bosses. Their agency is questionable at best. Besides that, one can be the victim of their own actions. If you can't understand how someone can be damaged emotionally from selling their body and all the other vices that come with it, I question your common sense and your understand of sexual relations.

Once you accept that a person has the right to damage themselves emotionally and physically how can you stop them from exercising that right? Not every pro is a drug addicted street hooker. Some are very high end and expensive escorts with college degrees. In their minds they are exploiting the weakness of their customers. Do they have a right to choose to be prostitutes? Should only the beautiful and accomplished be legal prostitutes?

Just because they have college degrees doesn't mean they aren't harming themselves. Many in college engage in all kinds of selfvdestructive behaviors from cheap sex to drug and alcohol abuse. Most of these middle prostitutes from a more middle or upper class background obviously grew up with family issues to some degree, or have some mental illness or they wouldn't be in such work.

The idea no one is harmed from prostitution is foolish.

While I agree with you. It's still a personal decision as people do have the right to engage in risky or dangerous behavior.

Prostitution became illegal when prostitutes began spreading disease and men started dying. Particularly sailors who patronized the whores in port cities. The men would sicken at sea from these diseased "fire ships". A ship could lose enough crew to cripple the ship. That's how prostitution became illegal.

No it isn't just a personal decision. Society has a role in regulating these anti-social behavior like prostitution. It has a role in mitigating self harm and the resulting economic and social costs that self harm has on the greater society.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Translation: You know you are not a victim in the above scenario, but do not want to admit it because it destroys your position.

You don't seem understand that there is more than just one person in the act of sexual relations. Well maybe you don't as your only relation is with your hand. The issue isn't about the individual paying for sex. He is the exploiter. The prostitute is the victim as she is engaging in self harm.
But yea prostitution should be legal so you shouldn't feel ashamed about having to pay for sex.

Someone offers you $10 to have sex with them.
You consider it for a half-second, have sex, collect your $10.
How are you a victim?

No one said you were the victim. You are the exploiter. She is the victim as she is harming herself. You can keep repeating this question. I will keep giving you the same reply.

:doh:
How are you harming yourself by willfully and freely accepting money to have sex?
If you told that someone you'd not take the money but have sex for free, would that remove your argument for "harm"?
How so?

Prostitution and the resulting promiscuity is harmful form of destructive self medication for abused and/or depressed individuals that feeds further psychological damage, not to mention the obvious increase in likelihood of contracting STDs.

Yawn.
If you told that someone you'd not take the money but have sex for free, would that remove your argument for "harm"?

 

[initforme]

It came illegal because it fits the agenda of a party to make it illegal. They didn't like it so they made it illegal. Those who are for less gov't intervention and freedom want to regulate only those things that they are against. Hypocrites to say the least. Same ones who are against pot being illegal. They want to regulate others business

 

[Steinlight]

You don't seem understand that there is more than just one person in the act of sexual relations. Well maybe you don't as your only relation is with your hand. The issue isn't about the individual paying for sex. He is the exploiter. The prostitute is the victim as she is engaging in self harm.
But yea prostitution should be legal so you shouldn't feel ashamed about having to pay for sex.

Someone offers you $10 to have sex with them.
You consider it for a half-second, have sex, collect your $10.
How are you a victim?

No one said you were the victim. You are the exploiter. She is the victim as she is harming herself. You can keep repeating this question. I will keep giving you the same reply.

:doh:
How are you harming yourself by willfully and freely accepting money to have sex?
If you told that someone you'd not take the money but have sex for free, would that remove your argument for "harm"?
How so?

Prostitution and the resulting promiscuity is harmful form of destructive self medication for abused and/or depressed individuals that feeds further psychological damage, not to mention the obvious increase in likelihood of contracting STDs.

Yawn.
If you told that someone you'd not take the money but have sex for free, would that remove your argument for "harm"?

LOL you autist. I show you prostitutes are emotionally damaged women further psychologically injured by the trauma of the self harming acts they engage in, making them self inflicted victims and victims of their exploiters(their pimps), and all you can say is "yawn". Yawn is right, your whole socially retarded libertarian argument is based on the false notion that there are no victims in prostitution, when there clearly are; the prostitutes themselves.

But suppose since prostitutes are the only way a socially stunted libertarian internet poster like you can get sex, you just don't want to have to deal with the legal repercussions of your deviant and exploitative acts.

 

[ChrisL]

I think that if prostitution was legal, it would be easier to regulate and cut down on trafficking, especially minors.

 

[Vikrant]

It's perverted.

Greg

It is waste of money.

Lots of things that are a waste of money are legal

Money is a finite resource therefore wasting it ought to be illegal.

 

[gtopa1]

I think that if prostitution was legal, it would be easier to regulate and cut down on trafficking, especially minors.

I would agree up to a point BUT(you knew that was coming) there would be a lot more drawn into what is a perverted lifestyle and a form of slavery. The poor would again be the victims with pimps getting the lion's share.

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

No victims, except for prostitutes themselves...

Someone offers you $10 to have sex with them.
You consider it for a half-second, have sex, collect your $10.
How are you a victim?

She is the victim.

How are you a victim?

The woman is not tea and biscuits.

Greg