Why is the far left so upset that a 17 year old Patriot shoot arsonists and looters?

[BlueGin]

The kid is a criminal and no better than the rioters. He was breaking laws before he ever shot anyone. And then he committed the worst crimes of the night.

No. Here's why.

Rioters went there to rob, loot, burn and cause destruction.
He went there with the intention to provide a presence to maintain and protect property and safety from rioters and looters and arsonists

He has the moral high ground

He was also there as a medic. With his medic gear.

That was his main purpose for going there. Thank you for adding that. It needs to be remembered.

He sure is a shitty medic. Again, he committed the worst crimes of the night.

Dont attack the guy offering medical help. They chased him, and were beating him. Also...dont attack a guy with a gun and you won’t end up dead.

 

[BlueGin]

Two nights ago, the Great Patriot, Defender of Kenosha, and Guardian of the Republic, Kyle Rittenhouse, suppressed an unlawful riot in Kenosha where countless businesses have been burnt down, looted and forced out of business.

The police were no where to be found, unable to act and carry out their function of maintaining Law and Order.

So the citizens of the area took up arms, exercising their Second Amendment right to suppress violent riot, arson and looting and to suppress a communist insurrection.

It's almost as if the far left wants to take our Second Amendment rights so they can abolish the police and then rain chaos upon our communities (problem, reaction...solution?), and then institute their new police force under the flag of communism to restore civilization.

Because what he did was murder

Actually it was self defense.

He came from another state with an AR15, he was looking for trouble. He was threatening.

He lived 20 minutes away. He probably lives closer to the area than the paid BLM rioters.

 

[BlueGin]

A crime is a crime. The rioters are all criminals and so is the murderer. We all need to admit this.

he didnt murder anyone,,,it was all self defense,,,

An armed child goes with a war weapon to a riot in a strange region far from home and self defenses some people to death. How plausible is this?

Not far from home. He lives 20 min away. My commune to work everyday is 20 min. He had every right to be there.

 

[impuretrash]

The second amendment was created to keep abusive govt. and their agents at bay. Right now we have abusive got. with police that think they can be paid assassins for the state. I say that we rise up and throw off these chains and shackles of oppression from the police state. The police are not your friends they are the enemy and threaten to kill all that do not submit.

Moonie, if you don't like America the President or other people who live here, you need to take a nice long sabbatical to a country that has government you can tolerate. If it's the Alinski's model that Hillary,s college thesis that became her substitute for God, visit Russia, China, or anyother Socialistic Republic that controls the hell out of people who speak their minds freely, so the first thing you need to know is to stfu about everything. That's your only friend there, abject silence. Sorry, I didn't make up the rules there, but I know what they are.

I will take no trip I will stay in my country and speak out against the wrongs, you on the other hand evidently do not like the freedom of expression because you seek to silence me. This thread is not about me, I hope you can fathom that concept. This thread is about people who take the law into their own hands and destroy their lives by doing foolish actions. Not only has a seventeen year old ruined his life but others as well...and you find this acceptable. Your training from the echo chamber is great in fact you should be a leader at rhetorical propaganda because that is all you spew. The proof of what I say is in the current history being made with people in turmoil over the police state and the strong arm politicians who think this is tough love when all it has ever been is subjugation.

police are the enemy
self-defense is murder
abide the law

 

[L.K.Eder]

he nearly got you there. what a clever trap.

It isn't a trap Stasi man, it is just logic.

All of you who attack the person defending himself are engendering the criminal acts, themselves. It does not stand to reason that if you actually believed the criminal acts to be in the wrong, you would not be attacking the boy who is defending himself, therefore you must think these criminal acts should be legal.

I realize double-talk is pretty much hard wired into you, but there are limits to my tolerance of such.

interesting pretzel logic. what happens when your limits are reached?

do you then stomp your feet, old man?

vigilantes have never made anything better. they make things worse. this is not a batman movie.

No pretzels involved Stasi man. You are simply too stupid to say anything beyond what you have been trained to say.

When you wish to remove the ability of a person to defend themselves and their belongings, you have made a very clear statement in support of unfettered criminality.

All your de rigueur double talk does not change this essential fact whatsoever.

the very simple fact here is that the high school dropout from outer state had no business to be in kenosha at all. he made a very stupid decision followed by further very stupid decisions, probably egged on by the rhetoric barfed on the internet by people like you. the result of his stupid decisions is that he is now in jail and accused of killing two people. oh, and two are dead, and one injured. but this seems not to be interesting to you.
on the other hand, all your bloviating and lying about me is uninteresting to me. but funny, logic. LOL

so, THAT is how you justify looting and attempted murder.

what a creative mind you have.

see. more lying about me. uninteresting.

but that you claim that your lying about my statements is based on logic, that is still funny.

Ah, so you HAVE read the Stasi agitprop manuel!

Chapter 2 "turnspeak" - just call truth lies and lies truth and hope people are too stupid to figure out which is which.

The mob of criminals was there to loot and burn. The boy was there to protect a business. Three known criminals attacked the boy. The boy defended himself against the criminals.

Those are the facts of the matter. Those who spin an alternate reality so as to support the criminals have no business calling anybody a liar

more drivel, manuel.

i am not supporting any criminal, you little weasel. could you at least try to be honest?

that's a rhetorical question btw.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Two nights ago, the Great Patriot, Defender of Kenosha, and Guardian of the Republic, Kyle Rittenhouse, suppressed an unlawful riot in Kenosha where countless businesses have been burnt down, looted and forced out of business.

The police were no where to be found, unable to act and carry out their function of maintaining Law and Order.

So the citizens of the area took up arms, exercising their Second Amendment right to suppress violent riot, arson and looting and to suppress a communist insurrection.

It's almost as if the far left wants to take our Second Amendment rights so they can abolish the police and then rain chaos upon our communities (problem, reaction...solution?), and then institute their new police force under the flag of communism to restore civilization.

The 2nd Amendment mentions riots, arson and looting and communism?

Yes it does:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

It says nothing about murder.

Nor did he commit murder. He defended himself from three violent felons.

He had his mother drive him there from another state to shoot people. That is murder.

Wrong. He didn't travel there to shoot people, he was forced to defend himself.

But you know that, you just don't want your violent felons killed while trying to hurt others.

He traveled there with a weapon. Yours st

Two nights ago, the Great Patriot, Defender of Kenosha, and Guardian of the Republic, Kyle Rittenhouse, suppressed an unlawful riot in Kenosha where countless businesses have been burnt down, looted and forced out of business.

The police were no where to be found, unable to act and carry out their function of maintaining Law and Order.

So the citizens of the area took up arms, exercising their Second Amendment right to suppress violent riot, arson and looting and to suppress a communist insurrection.

It's almost as if the far left wants to take our Second Amendment rights so they can abolish the police and then rain chaos upon our communities (problem, reaction...solution?), and then institute their new police force under the flag of communism to restore civilization.

The 2nd Amendment mentions riots, arson and looting and communism?

Yes it does:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

It says nothing about murder.

Nor did he commit murder. He defended himself from three violent felons.

He had his mother drive him there from another state to shoot people. That is murder.

Wrong. He didn't travel there to shoot people, he was forced to defend himself.

But you know that, you just don't want your violent felons killed while trying to hurt others.

He traveled there with a weapon. Your stubbornness makes you look stupid.

we see that was a good idea since if he didnt have it he would have been killed,,,

Or, he could have minded his own business.

Or the lefties paid mobs could have not been out attacking people and burning shit down.

I often wonder if any of these authoritarian leftists have ever even worked for a living? None have ever tried to run a business, though, thats for sure. These miscreants would not be supporting the mobs of criminals attacking innocent business people if they had

Productive members of sociiety simply do not support this wanton destruction. They are deeply disturbed at some level, and are only capable of identifying wirh the criminal perps and not their victims.

 

[Coyote]

The Communist Democrats are upset because he shot one of the domestic terrorists that they are wholeheartedly supporting!

All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. Kyle Rittenhouse did something.

He committed the worst crime of the night.

He committed no crime. He was assaulted by a gang trying to murder him

He committed several. He was illegally carrying a gun and broke curfew. Then he killed someone and tried to escape the crime scene. When people tried to stop him he killed them too.

Escape the crime scene?

He was running straight at the flashing lights of LEO heavily armored MRAPS with his hands up, before and after the other two violent felons pulled a pistol out on him.

They weren't felons. None of the three men, two now dead, were felons. Why do you lot insist on lying? Is that how you justify killing people? Lying about people?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

he nearly got you there. what a clever trap.

It isn't a trap Stasi man, it is just logic.

All of you who attack the person defending himself are engendering the criminal acts, themselves. It does not stand to reason that if you actually believed the criminal acts to be in the wrong, you would not be attacking the boy who is defending himself, therefore you must think these criminal acts should be legal.

I realize double-talk is pretty much hard wired into you, but there are limits to my tolerance of such.

interesting pretzel logic. what happens when your limits are reached?

do you then stomp your feet, old man?

vigilantes have never made anything better. they make things worse. this is not a batman movie.

No pretzels involved Stasi man. You are simply too stupid to say anything beyond what you have been trained to say.

When you wish to remove the ability of a person to defend themselves and their belongings, you have made a very clear statement in support of unfettered criminality.

All your de rigueur double talk does not change this essential fact whatsoever.

the very simple fact here is that the high school dropout from outer state had no business to be in kenosha at all. he made a very stupid decision followed by further very stupid decisions, probably egged on by the rhetoric barfed on the internet by people like you. the result of his stupid decisions is that he is now in jail and accused of killing two people. oh, and two are dead, and one injured. but this seems not to be interesting to you.
on the other hand, all your bloviating and lying about me is uninteresting to me. but funny, logic. LOL

so, THAT is how you justify looting and attempted murder.

what a creative mind you have.

see. more lying about me. uninteresting.

but that you claim that your lying about my statements is based on logic, that is still funny.

Ah, so you HAVE read the Stasi agitprop manuel!

Chapter 2 "turnspeak" - just call truth lies and lies truth and hope people are too stupid to figure out which is which.

The mob of criminals was there to loot and burn. The boy was there to protect a business. Three known criminals attacked the boy. The boy defended himself against the criminals.

Those are the facts of the matter. Those who spin an alternate reality so as to support the criminals have no business calling anybody a liar

more drivel, manuel.

i am not supporting any criminal, you little weasel. could you at least try to be honest?

that's a rhetorical question btw.

You most obviously are and I detailed your methods in doing so.

 

[beautress]

The second amendment was created to keep abusive govt. and their agents at bay. Right now we have abusive got. with police that think they can be paid assassins for the state. I say that we rise up and throw off these chains and shackles of oppression from the police state. The police are not your friends they are the enemy and threaten to kill all that do not submit.

Moonie, if you don't like America the President or other people who live here, you need to take a nice long sabbatical to a country that has government you can tolerate. If it's the Alinski's model that Hillary,s college thesis that became her substitute for God, visit Russia, China, or anyother Socialistic Republic that controls the hell out of people who speak their minds freely, so the first thing you need to know is to stfu about everything. That's your only friend there, abject silence. Sorry, I didn't make up the rules there, but I know what they are.

I will take no trip I will stay in my country and speak out against the wrongs, you on the other hand evidently do not like the freedom of expression because you seek to silence me. This thread is not about me, I hope you can fathom that concept. This thread is about people who take the law into their own hands and destroy their lives by doing foolish actions. Not only has a seventeen year old ruined his life but others as well...and you find this acceptable. Your training from the echo chamber is great in fact you should be a leader at rhetorical propaganda because that is all you spew. The proof of what I say is in the current history being made with people in turmoil over the police state and the strong arm politicians who think this is tough love when all it has ever been is subjugation.

I do not seek to silence you. If you reread the context you would know that I know the score from experience with having been to a socialistic country. Not only are you jealously watched, no matter how much you may like most of the people there, you will be unfairly judged and penalized out of your assets if you have something of value they can expropriate,and you will never get it back even on your dying day. They know ahead of time you will not care for their petty larceny, so they merely judge you ahead of time like the socialistic situation your party's communist leaders are foisting upon freedoms we have right now, that inconvenience their rush to crush the power of the current potus. They own you. They want to own the rest of us too.

 

[progressive hunter]

t

The Communist Democrats are upset because he shot one of the domestic terrorists that they are wholeheartedly supporting!

All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. Kyle Rittenhouse did something.

He committed the worst crime of the night.

He committed no crime. He was assaulted by a gang trying to murder him

He committed several. He was illegally carrying a gun and broke curfew. Then he killed someone and tried to escape the crime scene. When people tried to stop him he killed them too.

Escape the crime scene?

He was running straight at the flashing lights of LEO heavily armored MRAPS with his hands up, before and after the other two violent felons pulled a pistol out on him.

They weren't felons. None of the three men, two now dead, were felons. Why do you lot insist on lying? Is that how you justify killing people? Lying about people?

their death is justified because they attacked someone,,,

 

[Coyote]

t

The Communist Democrats are upset because he shot one of the domestic terrorists that they are wholeheartedly supporting!

All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. Kyle Rittenhouse did something.

He committed the worst crime of the night.

He committed no crime. He was assaulted by a gang trying to murder him

He committed several. He was illegally carrying a gun and broke curfew. Then he killed someone and tried to escape the crime scene. When people tried to stop him he killed them too.

Escape the crime scene?

He was running straight at the flashing lights of LEO heavily armored MRAPS with his hands up, before and after the other two violent felons pulled a pistol out on him.

They weren't felons. None of the three men, two now dead, were felons. Why do you lot insist on lying? Is that how you justify killing people? Lying about people?

their death is justified because they attacked someone,,,

You mean when they were trying to stop him from shooting people? God you guys are warped.

 

[progressive hunter]

t

The Communist Democrats are upset because he shot one of the domestic terrorists that they are wholeheartedly supporting!

All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. Kyle Rittenhouse did something.

He committed the worst crime of the night.

He committed no crime. He was assaulted by a gang trying to murder him

He committed several. He was illegally carrying a gun and broke curfew. Then he killed someone and tried to escape the crime scene. When people tried to stop him he killed them too.

Escape the crime scene?

He was running straight at the flashing lights of LEO heavily armored MRAPS with his hands up, before and after the other two violent felons pulled a pistol out on him.

They weren't felons. None of the three men, two now dead, were felons. Why do you lot insist on lying? Is that how you justify killing people? Lying about people?

their death is justified because they attacked someone,,,

You mean when they were trying to stop him from shooting people? God you guys are warped.

NOOO,,
he was trying to get away after they attacked him the first time,,,

its all on video so you should take a minute and watch them,,it will avoid you making ignorant comments like this one later,,,

 

[The2ndAmendment]

The Communist Democrats are upset because he shot one of the domestic terrorists that they are wholeheartedly supporting!

All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. Kyle Rittenhouse did something.

He committed the worst crime of the night.

He committed no crime. He was assaulted by a gang trying to murder him

He committed several. He was illegally carrying a gun and broke curfew. Then he killed someone and tried to escape the crime scene. When people tried to stop him he killed them too.

Escape the crime scene?

He was running straight at the flashing lights of LEO heavily armored MRAPS with his hands up, before and after the other two violent felons pulled a pistol out on him.

He ran from the crime scene quite clearly.

You know this is 2020 where we can watch the video correct?

 

[The2ndAmendment]

The Communist Democrats are upset because he shot one of the domestic terrorists that they are wholeheartedly supporting!

All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. Kyle Rittenhouse did something.

He committed the worst crime of the night.

He committed no crime. He was assaulted by a gang trying to murder him

He committed several. He was illegally carrying a gun and broke curfew. Then he killed someone and tried to escape the crime scene. When people tried to stop him he killed them too.

Escape the crime scene?

He was running straight at the flashing lights of LEO heavily armored MRAPS with his hands up, before and after the other two violent felons pulled a pistol out on him.

They weren't felons. None of the three men, two now dead, were felons. Why do you lot insist on lying? Is that how you justify killing people? Lying about people?

You can read all my links in this thread, and then take back your comments.

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But I think you know better. You know the all the information on third party websites has alreayd been erased, and now people have to directly access .gov databases to obtain this information.

You're just as dishonest as the Big Tech companies deleting this data to push your agenda/narrative along with Big Tech.

 

[sartre play]

where are the hunters with gun safety awareness voices in this mess? why was a 17 year old allowed to be in an unsafe situation?

 

[beautress]

A crime is a crime. The rioters are all criminals and so is the murderer. We all need to admit this.

he didnt murder anyone,,,it was all self defense,,,

An armed child goes with a war weapon to a riot in a strange region far from home and self defenses some people to death. How plausible is this?

"Children," as you call them are known to truly know the difference between right and wrong at ages 10 to 12. That 17-year old knows that disrespecting a cop, getting high on mind-altering substances and rioting, burning other peoples' businesses is wrong. Not all is known right now to make a call that is reliably divorced from sentencing the 17-year old man in the press. Last time the imprudent press jumped a righty kid, they are each paying him hundreds of thou$ands in lawsuits the "child" sought reparations for the assination of his character because they thought theycould get away with destroying his honor. Nope! Not any more. <giggle>

 

[beautress]

he nearly got you there. what a clever trap.

It isn't a trap Stasi man, it is just logic.

All of you who attack the person defending himself are engendering the criminal acts, themselves. It does not stand to reason that if you actually believed the criminal acts to be in the wrong, you would not be attacking the boy who is defending himself, therefore you must think these criminal acts should be legal.

I realize double-talk is pretty much hard wired into you, but there are limits to my tolerance of such.

interesting pretzel logic. what happens when your limits are reached?

do you then stomp your feet, old man?

vigilantes have never made anything better. they make things worse. this is not a batman movie.

No pretzels involved Stasi man. You are simply too stupid to say anything beyond what you have been trained to say.

When you wish to remove the ability of a person to defend themselves and their belongings, you have made a very clear statement in support of unfettered criminality.

All your de rigueur double talk does not change this essential fact whatsoever.

the very simple fact here is that the high school dropout from outer state had no business to be in kenosha at all. he made a very stupid decision followed by further very stupid decisions, probably egged on by the rhetoric barfed on the internet by people like you. the result of his stupid decisions is that he is now in jail and accused of killing two people. oh, and two are dead, and one injured. but this seems not to be interesting to you.
on the other hand, all your bloviating and lying about me is uninteresting to me. but funny, logic. LOL

so, THAT is how you justify looting and attempted murder.

what a creative mind you have.

see. more lying about me. uninteresting.

but that you claim that your lying about my statements is based on logic, that is still funny.

Ah, so you HAVE read the Stasi agitprop manuel!

Chapter 2 "turnspeak" - just call truth lies and lies truth and hope people are too stupid to figure out which is which.

The mob of criminals was there to loot and burn. The boy was there to protect a business. Three known criminals attacked the boy. The boy defended himself against the criminals.

Those are the facts of the matter. Those who spin an alternate reality so as to support the criminals have no business calling anybody a liar

more drivel, manuel.

i am not supporting any criminal, you little weasel. could you at least try to be honest?

that's a rhetorical question btw.

Name-calling is never rhetorical.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

where are the hunters with gun safety awareness voices in this mess? why was a 17 year old allowed to be in an unsafe situation?

Right off hand, I would say that if the media were not actively promoting the violence and the Democratic party were not enabling it by ordering the police to stand down , the presence of people to guard businesses would not be necessary in the first place.

sure, he is a year short of legal age but that does not distract from the fact that our government has abdicated responsibility or that domestic terrorism has exploded.

 

[L.K.Eder]

he nearly got you there. what a clever trap.

It isn't a trap Stasi man, it is just logic.

All of you who attack the person defending himself are engendering the criminal acts, themselves. It does not stand to reason that if you actually believed the criminal acts to be in the wrong, you would not be attacking the boy who is defending himself, therefore you must think these criminal acts should be legal.

I realize double-talk is pretty much hard wired into you, but there are limits to my tolerance of such.

interesting pretzel logic. what happens when your limits are reached?

do you then stomp your feet, old man?

vigilantes have never made anything better. they make things worse. this is not a batman movie.

No pretzels involved Stasi man. You are simply too stupid to say anything beyond what you have been trained to say.

When you wish to remove the ability of a person to defend themselves and their belongings, you have made a very clear statement in support of unfettered criminality.

All your de rigueur double talk does not change this essential fact whatsoever.

the very simple fact here is that the high school dropout from outer state had no business to be in kenosha at all. he made a very stupid decision followed by further very stupid decisions, probably egged on by the rhetoric barfed on the internet by people like you. the result of his stupid decisions is that he is now in jail and accused of killing two people. oh, and two are dead, and one injured. but this seems not to be interesting to you.
on the other hand, all your bloviating and lying about me is uninteresting to me. but funny, logic. LOL

so, THAT is how you justify looting and attempted murder.

what a creative mind you have.

see. more lying about me. uninteresting.

but that you claim that your lying about my statements is based on logic, that is still funny.

Ah, so you HAVE read the Stasi agitprop manuel!

Chapter 2 "turnspeak" - just call truth lies and lies truth and hope people are too stupid to figure out which is which.

The mob of criminals was there to loot and burn. The boy was there to protect a business. Three known criminals attacked the boy. The boy defended himself against the criminals.

Those are the facts of the matter. Those who spin an alternate reality so as to support the criminals have no business calling anybody a liar

more drivel, manuel.

i am not supporting any criminal, you little weasel. could you at least try to be honest?

that's a rhetorical question btw.

Name-calling is never rhetorical.

thx 4 shring another idiotic brain fart.

i am not supporting criminals. on the contrary.

 

[Ken Mac]

Two nights ago, the Great Patriot, Defender of Kenosha, and Guardian of the Republic, Kyle Rittenhouse, suppressed an unlawful riot in Kenosha where countless businesses have been burnt down, looted and forced out of business.

The police were no where to be found, unable to act and carry out their function of maintaining Law and Order.

So the citizens of the area took up arms, exercising their Second Amendment right to suppress violent riot, arson and looting and to suppress a communist insurrection.

It's almost as if the far left wants to take our Second Amendment rights so they can abolish the police and then rain chaos upon our communities (problem, reaction...solution?), and then institute their new police force under the flag of communism to restore civilization.

So what he did was legal?

When you start to support vigilantism like this, you are no different than the looters and rioters. This all is coming together in a really bad way and dangerous way for our country.

the one difference here is, you didn't start it. but if you allow looters and rioters to tear shit up - you're a fool if you expect people to sit back and let it happen night after night after night.

It's starting to look like you are following me around from thread to thread.

Can't understand how you can on the one hand condemn rioting (which I agree with that condemnation) and yet support this. It's internally inconsistent.

Vigilantism is lawlessness. No different than rioting. A 17 year old in no way should be out there in a hyper volatile protest with a high powered rifle. IF the facts so far are correct - and the situation if evolving - he shot and KILLED two people and badly injured a third. Self defense is one thing, but in the initial killing, that does NOT appear to be the case.

The picture of him coming out is also disturbing. Funny how a protestor, standing across the street holding up speakers gets shot in the face by a rubber bullet, is vilified as a jobless bum (despite no evidence of actual participation in rioting) but this guy, illegally carrying a high powered rifle (he's 17) is a "hero". MURDER IS NOT HEROIC.

Something is messed up is very messed up right now if this is a "hero". Police are heroes. Undisciplined private paramilitaries are not. They are as dangerous as mobs of rioters. And they are ANTI-LAW. Anyone who believes in taking the law into their own hands and meting out justice is NOT LAWFUL.

What do we know about this kid?

Who is Kyle Rittenhouse? Here's what we know about the 17-year-old charged in the Kenosha protest shooting.

Before he took his rifle to confront the unrest in Kenosha, Wis., on Tuesday, allegedly killing two people and injuring another, Kyle Rittenhouse seemingly idolized one thing: the police. Growing […]

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But brief accounts from neighbors and local institutions paint the picture of a high school dropout who viewed law enforcement officers as his personal heroes.​

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So much so that, when massive protests, looting and fires broke out in Kenosha following the police shooting of Jacob Blake on Sunday, he crossed state lines to offer his support to local policemen – at times, speaking as if their duties were his, too.​

Police are heavily trained, and they know the law. These guys don't. They have no business acting like police.

There are WAY TOO MANY armed people at these protests and that includes "the left" - you once said once you bring firearms to a protest it is no longer peaceful. Still believe that?

There are WAY TOO MANY OUTSIDERS at these events - both "protestors" and "counter protestors" - they need to be thrown out of town.

Here is what one person said - is she right?

“Maybe he thought he was doing the right thing, but you don’t kill somebody,” she said. “That’s not your business to kill someone for messing with someone else’s business. That’s for the cops to deal with.”​

Hmmm, one of the thugs he killed was a pedo who served 12 years, and the other raped and tortured his girlfriend. Fine upstanding citizens those two were.

The last guy was armed with a pistol and the leader of a communist group who wants to destroy the USA.

I should care about violent felons why?

Just out of morbid curiosity; one of our more prominent posters here did time in prison. If he were shot dead by some guy who just wanted to kill someone, would you care?

First off the dead felons were trying to attack the kid. At that point I simply don't give a shit what happens to them.

They already have shown they don't care about the Rights of others, and they were trying to kill this kid, so no, good riddance to bad rubbish.

Great way to promote senseless killing on top of senseless rioting.

I'm beyond disgusted by what's happening on all sides.

Everyone seems to listen to the same echo chamber here. The so-called claims of "violent rape and assault" and "pedophilia" were deliberately made up to slander them. How low can you go West short of killing someone? Here's an idea for a start - go to the WI Sex Offender Registry and type in his name. Anything pop up? That is a start at trying untangle this complete mess of layered fakery, bogus claims, and incitements for more violence on both sides.

Second. If you claim these three men (2 dead and 1 injured) were rioters, please show it. Acts of rioting, looting and arson are illegal, we all agree on that. Show us that is what THOSE THREE PEOPLE were doing. Are you claiming EVERYONE at the protest was engaged in arson and looting? Then that must include the kid and the armed private militia people right? Or - wait - are you going to make some distinctions? hmmm....how about Right = lawful, Left = unlawful = legitimate target....cause that's where you guys are going with this. That's a good starting point for killing people on a political basis huh? No need to mess around trying to figure out who is engaged in unlawful activity and who is not. Now, if only there is some way to identify them before we kill them and have to make up crap to justify it AFTER THE FACT.

So what happened here?

Here's one news account with no speculation:

Social media footage surfaced surrounding the late-night fatal shooting during unrest. Witness accounts and video indicate the gunman first shot someone at a car lot just before midnight, but details on what sparked that shooting weren't immediately clear. ​

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The alleged gunman then jogged away, fell in the street, and opened fire again as members of the crowd closed in on him, some appearing to kick and grab at his weapon. According to witness accounts and video footage, police apparently let the gunman walk past them and leave the scene with a rifle over his shoulder and his hands in the air as members of the crowd were yelling for him to be arrested because he had shot people.​

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When asked why the gunman was not arrested in the moment, Kenosha County Sheriff David Beth said he couldn't say for certain, but noted the chaos surrounding officers that night.​

Since it's all caught on video, it's pretty damn hard to JUSTIFY but easier to UNDERSTAND the shootings - the fact he was there and (illegally) armed to begin with and the fact he was allowed to simply walk away and return to another state and the fact that in that video there was NO criminal behavior being conducted by any of the dead or injured victims speak for themselves. The rest is speculation, differing accounts, deliberate disinformation, witness statements and armchair quarterbacks dissecting a brief video.

So here are the questions:

WHY WAS A 17 YEAR OLD THERE????? WITH THAT KIND OF WEAPON???? Regardless of what was going on....no one else got shot. Regardless of how I personally feel about private militias (which, as you know, is pretty negative) - THEY didn't shoot anyone either. The police refused to deputize these citizens...for good reason, but they were and imo it's fine to do so - allowed to guard private property. That is FINE. That is what this kid was supposed to be doing, but he LEFT his spot. If he had stayed there nothing would have happened! He was in over his head and he panicked, understandably, when people in the crowd tried to restrain him and get rid of his weapon. As far as anyone could see - the kid was another mass shooter...like Parkland, or any number of events. How could anyone know otherwise when they witness a man shot in the head and another man trotting away with a rifle? He wasn't law enforcement. No badge. No ID. WE FAILED HIM BY ALLOWING HIM TO BE THERE! He is not a hero. He is not a thug. He's a mixed up kid, who badly wanted to be a policeman, who idolized law enforcement, who carried a MEDIC bag in case any protestors needed help, and damn, I just end up crying for HIM, for this one ruined life, someone who really did not seem to have any malice. The dead are dead, but he will have to live with this. It's so wrong.

WHO SHOULD WE BLAME for the riots? Oh, I know the answer that will come from some - commie lefties. Democrats. Sheesh. Get a new playbook. Responsibility ultimately comes down on the mayor. He, along with the city council are responsible for ensuring the safety of his citizens, and their livelyhoods and their homes. Just like if you are the president - it doesn't really matter what you do or don't do - the buck stops here.

But there is a bit more than that because nothing is really simple unless you are a business that got burned out, or the fiancé, with a 2 yr old daughter, of a man who is now dead and slandered, or a 17 year old kid who will now be facing a life he never envisioned, or the family of a man brutally shot in the back at close range, and you just want justice.

What could have been done differently?

Let's start at the beginning. What sparked the demonstrations that then turned into rioting?

A video. A video showing police come up to a man, leaning into his car, grabbing him by the shirt, pulling him back and pumping multiple rounds into his back at close range. It was brutal and against the backdrop of so many videos showing (justifiable and unjustifiable) police violence - there should be no surprise at public reaction. I don't care who the man was, there is no way to watch that (if you are a normal person) and not be horrified. This is our new reality - videos. Of EVERYTHING. Harder to sweep things under the rug, easier to spin, misconstrue, take out of context. Easier to inflame "the masses". Easier to see wrong doing.

What preceded that? Attempts at police reform by the Wisconsin governor, stalled by the legislature. Maybe, just maybe, if people see that something is happening and something is being done, and there is transparency the potential for violence is less. The governor is attempting, AGAIN, to pass it

Yet, the mayor himself appears to be tone deaf to his constituency. If he doesn't listen to the other half, and he fails to provide law and order, he's going to deservedly lose re-election. One example - curfews. A good way to tamp down the potential for violence which always seems to escalate at night. There are demonstrations ongoing described as "mostly peaceful". There is supposed to be a curfew. It's NOT BEING ENFORCED. What the hell?

What is your solution? Blame "commies"? Get real. We have a perfect storm with bitter political divisions at EVERY LEVEL, widespread public anger and unrest, a lot of restrictions and confusion with a pandemic, widespread distrust of our leadership, huge unemployment, Congress incapable of doing their job, a hugely divisive and incompetent president, and the worst recession in ages and more internet disinformation than ever before. Take your pick - it all feeds into the unrest.

But I will say this, I was wrong on one thing, I am now agreeing with you that we need law and order more than ever - we need to stop the violence and that means addressing ALL the participants, not politicizing who to go after. But that can't be with private militias, because they become PART of the problem, fed by the same disinformation as the rest of us. Private entities can guard private property but they have no business roaming the streets or public areas and if they kill someone, they face the law on that. The police and our national guard are the ones who need to be doing this. It's their job, it's what they are trained for. Crowd control. Arresting looters and arsonists. Enforcing curfews.

This kid is not a hero. He's a victim. And we are all to blame.

The bald dude was chasing the guys with rifles and yelling "shoot me!". He was doing it for quite some time and there is lots of video of it. That is inciting violence which falls under "rioting"

The skateboarder bashed him in the head and shoulder. That is inciting violence which is "rioting"

IF that is the case it is up to the POLICE to handle (and determine the illegality of it) - not YOU or a 17 year old kid, to impose execution.

If the Anthony Huber, the skateboarder (yes, he has a name) was bashing a rioter, you would have called it self-defense. If he was a rightist and had a gun, you would have called him a "good guy with a gun".

That's the irony here.

He, and others, were trying to stop a heavily armed kid, who had JUST SHOT AND KILLED A MAN, from killing anyone else and they were trying to get the gun away from him, and restrain him til the police came.

How far are you going to go to justify this?

The other dude - the felon, was crying a gun and pointed it at Kyle before Kyle shot him. That is more than "rioting".

Look at the evidence FFS.

The felon? What felon? Are you talking about the guy, who pulled out his gun, and pointed it at Kyle, AFTER Kyle shot and killed one guy? (can't remember - was this after or before he also shot Huber?). Do you mean THAT GUY? Isn't that ONE OF YOUR GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS, trying to stop more killing and restrain a killer until the police got there?

Huber and the others were playing the role of vigilante. They played judge, jury and executioner while they chased him to beat him up. Someone even yelled "Let's beat him up!"