Why is the gay community afraid of "conversion therapy"?

[guno]

Conversion therapy (also known as reparative therapy) is a range of treatments that aim to change sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual. Such treatments have been criticized for being pseudo-scientific.
Conversion therapy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The major premise of conversion therapy advocates is that majority of homosexuals are NOT genetically pre-disposed but a learned behavior.

So if the gay community believes so strongly that there is a "I gotta be me" genetic coding that pre-disposes a person to homosexuality why are they so afraid?

So afraid that "conversion therapy aimed at turning gay kids straight will soon be illegal in California, with the state's governor declaring he hopes a new law will relegate such efforts "to the dustbin of quackery."
This bill bans non-scientific 'therapies' that have driven young people to depression and suicide," Brown tweeted. "These practices have no basis in science or medicine."
California governor OKs ban on gay conversion therapy, calling it 'quackery' - CNN.com

Why is there such angst about something that a gay MUST be?

I have NO doubt some "suicides" but HOW MANY ? Where are the facts Mr. Brown?

People are gay for two reasons:
1) they truly were born with a genetic pre-disposition to homosexuality
2) The behavior is learned.

Those are the ONLY two ways that a homosexual IS a homosexual.

I would like anyone to refute that.

How about electro shock therapy for the bible banging christers, and it may be coming sooner then you think!!

 

[HUGGY]

Every (supposedly) "gay" man I've ever met has said he gets aroused watching heterosexual porn.

That tells me all I need to know about their supposedly genetic predisposition.

No gay man has told you any such thing.

Yeah, they have.

Why do you need to discuss sexual arousal with gay men ?

 

[Inevitable]

No gay man has told you any such thing.

Yeah, they have.

Why do you need to discuss sexual arousal with gay men ?

I am homosexual and I have been aroused by heterosexual pornography there are normally guys in it and more often than not they are sexy.

What shart attack says doesn't surprise me.

 

[Noomi]

Gay men can get aroused watching straight porn the same as straight men can become aroused watching gay porn. Doesn't mean anything.

 

[HUGGY]

Yeah, they have.

Why do you need to discuss sexual arousal with gay men ?

I am homosexual and I have been aroused by heterosexual pornography there are normally guys in it and more often than not they are sexy.

What shart attack says doesn't surprise me.

Some people make light of subjects they don't understand.

 

[Inevitable]

Gay men can get aroused watching straight porn the same as straight men can become aroused watching gay porn. Doesn't mean anything.

well porn involving 2 male actors performing homosexual acts on one another represents 25% of the market.

Like I said gay men may find the men in heterosexual porn attractive.

 

[rdean]

Conversion therapy (also known as reparative therapy) is a range of treatments that aim to change sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual. Such treatments have been criticized for being pseudo-scientific.
Conversion therapy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The major premise of conversion therapy advocates is that majority of homosexuals are NOT genetically pre-disposed but a learned behavior.

So if the gay community believes so strongly that there is a "I gotta be me" genetic coding that pre-disposes a person to homosexuality why are they so afraid?

So afraid that "conversion therapy aimed at turning gay kids straight will soon be illegal in California, with the state's governor declaring he hopes a new law will relegate such efforts "to the dustbin of quackery."
This bill bans non-scientific 'therapies' that have driven young people to depression and suicide," Brown tweeted. "These practices have no basis in science or medicine."
California governor OKs ban on gay conversion therapy, calling it 'quackery' - CNN.com

Why is there such angst about something that a gay MUST be?

I have NO doubt some "suicides" but HOW MANY ? Where are the facts Mr. Brown?

People are gay for two reasons:
1) they truly were born with a genetic pre-disposition to homosexuality
2) The behavior is learned.

Those are the ONLY two ways that a homosexual IS a homosexual.

I would like anyone to refute that.

How long did it take you to find out it could be "learned"? Did you have to "practice"?

Seems like a pretty simple and "straight" forward question.

 

[GreenBean]

They will just put you on ignore. Greenbean ran away from logic.
That must mean hefe doesn't have any and he has to protect his opinion from it.

Emily just rants incessantly about irrelevant stuff.

So - what logic did you present other than your opinions, and they were just that opinions.

I didn't insist that there was a conspiracy of gay people to control information.

The fact that your conspiracy is a delusion
Don't really need a scholar to debunk your conspiracy there isn't any facts that you presented, just paranoid garbage.
Studies? That prove the APA isn't controled by a secret conspiracy of gay people to um... You were never clear on their super villain plot. I don't think studies exist to debunk your delusions.

Nothing nada zilch and zero added together still equals nothing

Yep so your paranoid delusions and make believe conspiracy theories thatyour entire argument hinges on is not really valid.

When and if you can present some evidence , any evidence beyond your convoluted fuzzy opinions, and have something intelligent to add - perhaps I'll give you the distinguished honor of my attention again by responding. In the interim Fuck Off.

You ignored me because you are a pouty little child. Go on stock yourfingers inyour ears and scream conspiracy. You may want to fashion a tinfoil hat while you are at it.

I've temporarily unblocked you , so let's see if have some useful informationm to contribute....

Inevitable : I didn't insist that there was a conspiracy of gay people to control information.

GreenBean : True , you insisted there wasn't - but refused to present any evidence to back up your opinion - you failed

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GreenBean : What scholars did you quote ?

Inevitable : Don't really need a scholar to debunk your conspiracy there isn't any facts that you presented, just paranoid garbage.

GreenBean : Translated - you can't find any evience to proove my argument incorrect or yours correct. you refused to present any evidence to back up your opinion - you failed

GreenBean : What Studies did you cite ?

Inevitable : Studies? That prove the APA isn't controled by a secret conspiracy of gay people to um... You were never clear on their super villain plot. I don't think studies exist to debunk your delusions.

GreenBean : That was a portion of the Topic - in general the topic was the psychosis of homosexuality, it's dysphoric nature and how it is shielded by the APA -, now there are plenty of bogus pseudo-scientific studies , as well as a handful of credible ones that would tend to validate some of your opinions -but I forewarn you - I am familiar with almost anything you might come across -so be certain to dot your I and cross your T. And if you're very good at prooving your point you might even stump me - you may found this hard to believe - but I am only HUman and sometimes am wrong - very rarely , but sometimes.

GreenBean : Nothing nada zilch and zero added together still equals nothing

Inevitable : Yep so your paranoid delusions and make believe conspiracy theories thatyour entire argument hinges on is not really valid.

GreenBean : you refused to present any evidence to back up your opinion - you failed

GreenBean :When and if you can present some evidence , any evidence beyond your convoluted fuzzy opinions, and have something intelligent to add - perhaps I'll give you the distinguished honor of my attention again by responding. In the interim Fuck Off.

Inevitable : You ignored me because you are a pouty little child. Go on stock yourfingers inyour ears and scream conspiracy. You may want to fashion a tinfoil hat while you are at it.

GreenBean : I ignored you because you prooved yourself to be of no value , worthless and pointless - everybody has opinions and differring opinions at that - on a public debate the idea is to give you an opportunity to present your opinions and evidence to back them up - you simply continue to spout your unsupported immature opinions - which mean nothing and prove nothing . Grow and put up - or shut up .

GreenBean : I presented factual evidence

HOWEY: Why has he claimed to have converted thousands of gays and has yet to name one name?

NOW >GreenBean : It has to do with client confidententiality and professional obligations to honor their wishes . There have been ex-gays who have come forward with their stories and all have hounded and harassed by the gaggles of gaydom. If you anything - I mean anything at all about the Medical or Mental Health field - you owuld know that he can't divulge their information - it's immoral, unethical , unprofessional and in many cases illegal - even were he ordered to divulge such information by a court of law - he would still have the right to invoke "client - counselor" privileges. PS: I hope you don't mind me adressing your posts as Howey and Inevitable on he same quote box - just saving time .

HOWEY: lol...no you didn't. You presented the insane ramblings of an insane kook who's been discredited by the profession.

Now>GreenBean : I noticed you and your alter ego conveniently ignored the post below - so I reposted it.

Yesterday >GreenBean :

So you feel Dr Cummings was a "Kook" when he authored and supported the motion to remove Homosexuality from the DSM - effectively delisting it as a Mental Illness ?? Hmmm - intersting point and not without validity - I hoave to agree that was a assinine move - so whatelse do you feelDr.Cummings has done that would classify him as a kook- other than to disagree with your wholly unqualified Opinion ?

And while you're at it what about Dr. Rogers Wright former member of APA's Board of Directors, who stated that "psychology has been ultra-libera...and beholden to the Gay Rights movement" Wright described the difficulties he has encountered with the American Psychological Association -

Or Dr. A. Dean Byrd another former APA officer who has bailed out of theorganization - because it has lost all crredibility

Or Dr. Frank Farley who stated that "...APA should give the widest possible hearing to Dr. Cummings' concern about APA's preoccupation with political correctness, and should instead focus efforts on the decline in psychological practice."

Or Dr. Jeffrey Satinover, M.D. In his talk entitled "Judicial Abuse of Scientific Literature on Homosexuality by the American Mental Health Professional Organizations," he offered a tediously referenced description of ethics and morals breeches in recent legal cases that have led to landmark changes in family-law policy.

Or Dr. Richard Fitzgibbons who has stated said that "the American Psychiatric Association (APA) has continuously ignored evidence that homosexuality is a manifestation of a psychiatric disorder."

Or Dr. Apu Chakraborty who has been blasted by the Gay Mafia for producing findings that were heresy to their ears and eyes - he prooved that the rates of mental disorder among gays were significantly higher,nay ridiculously higher than sane people. Rates of depression, anxiety, obsessive compulsive disorder, phobia, self-harm, suicidal thoughts, substance abuse , alcohol dependence. ......

I guess they were all quacks Right ? And of course you are much more qualified to judge the issues because you're a cock sucker - I'd call you a dirty cock sucker- but I have no proof of that and couldn't really give a flying fuck either - Oh and FYI -if you truly are a dirty cock sucker watch out for shigelosis - you don know what shigelosis is don't you? It's an extremely common disease among faggots - it comes from eating their partners feces [ when you suck off their dirty cocks ]

 

[Howey]

Gay men can get aroused watching straight porn the same as straight men can become aroused watching gay porn. Doesn't mean anything.

I was about to agree....but.

As a gay man who's seen straight porn, there's enough penis in it to keep one, ummm....going.

Gay porn has nothing to offer the straight man except penis after penis after penis. If he becomes aroused, there's only one answer.

 

[Inevitable]

So - what logic did you present other than your opinions, and they were just that opinions.

I didn't insist that there was a conspiracy of gay people to control information.

The fact that your conspiracy is a delusion
Don't really need a scholar to debunk your conspiracy there isn't any facts that you presented, just paranoid garbage.
Studies? That prove the APA isn't controled by a secret conspiracy of gay people to um... You were never clear on their super villain plot. I don't think studies exist to debunk your delusions.

Yep so your paranoid delusions and make believe conspiracy theories thatyour entire argument hinges on is not really valid.


You ignored me because you are a pouty little child. Go on stock yourfingers inyour ears and scream conspiracy. You may want to fashion a tinfoil hat while you are at it.

I've temporarily unblocked you , so let's see if have some useful informationm to contribute....


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GreenBean :When and if you can present some evidence , any evidence beyond your convoluted fuzzy opinions, and have something intelligent to add - perhaps I'll give you the distinguished honor of my attention again by responding. In the interim Fuck Off.

Inevitable : You ignored me because you are a pouty little child. Go on stock yourfingers inyour ears and scream conspiracy. You may want to fashion a tinfoil hat while you are at it.

GreenBean : I ignored you because you prooved yourself to be of no value , worthless and pointless - everybody has opinions and differring opinions at that - on a public debate the idea is to give you an opportunity to present your opinions and evidence to back them up - you simply continue to spout your unsupported immature opinions - which mean nothing and prove nothing . Grow and put up - or shut up .

GreenBean : I presented factual evidence

HOWEY: Why has he claimed to have converted thousands of gays and has yet to name one name?

NOW >GreenBean : It has to do with client confidententiality and professional obligations to honor their wishes . There have been ex-gays who have come forward with their stories and all have hounded and harassed by the gaggles of gaydom. If you anything - I mean anything at all about the Medical or Mental Health field - you owuld know that he can't divulge their information - it's immoral, unethical , unprofessional and in many cases illegal - even were he ordered to divulge such information by a court of law - he would still have the right to invoke "client - counselor" privileges. PS: I hope you don't mind me adressing your posts as Howey and Inevitable on he same quote box - just saving time .

HOWEY: lol...no you didn't. You presented the insane ramblings of an insane kook who's been discredited by the profession.

Now>GreenBean : I noticed you and your alter ego conveniently ignored the post below - so I reposted it.

Yesterday >GreenBean :

So you feel Dr Cummings was a "Kook" when he authored and supported the motion to remove Homosexuality from the DSM - effectively delisting it as a Mental Illness ?? Hmmm - intersting point and not without validity - I hoave to agree that was a assinine move - so whatelse do you feelDr.Cummings has done that would classify him as a kook- other than to disagree with your wholly unqualified Opinion ?

And while you're at it what about Dr. Rogers Wright former member of APA's Board of Directors, who stated that "psychology has been ultra-libera...and beholden to the Gay Rights movement" Wright described the difficulties he has encountered with the American Psychological Association -

Or Dr. A. Dean Byrd another former APA officer who has bailed out of theorganization - because it has lost all crredibility

Or Dr. Frank Farley who stated that "...APA should give the widest possible hearing to Dr. Cummings' concern about APA's preoccupation with political correctness, and should instead focus efforts on the decline in psychological practice."

Or Dr. Jeffrey Satinover, M.D. In his talk entitled "Judicial Abuse of Scientific Literature on Homosexuality by the American Mental Health Professional Organizations," he offered a tediously referenced description of ethics and morals breeches in recent legal cases that have led to landmark changes in family-law policy.

Or Dr. Richard Fitzgibbons who has stated said that "the American Psychiatric Association (APA) has continuously ignored evidence that homosexuality is a manifestation of a psychiatric disorder."

Or Dr. Apu Chakraborty who has been blasted by the Gay Mafia for producing findings that were heresy to their ears and eyes - he prooved that the rates of mental disorder among gays were significantly higher,nay ridiculously higher than sane people. Rates of depression, anxiety, obsessive compulsive disorder, phobia, self-harm, suicidal thoughts, substance abuse , alcohol dependence. ......

I guess they were all quacks Right ? And of course you are much more qualified to judge the issues because you're a cock sucker - I'd call you a dirty cock sucker- but I have no proof of that and couldn't really give a flying fuck either - Oh and FYI -if you truly are a dirty cock sucker watch out for shigelosis - you don know what shigelosis is don't you? It's an extremely common disease among faggots - it comes from eating their partners feces [ when you suck off their dirty cocks ]

only thing I really have to say to you green bean is that I need proof that theAPA was taken or by homos

 

[MaryL]

First things first, I resent how homosexuals hijacked the word "GAY". Second of all, a loose affiliation of wealthy people that identify with a broken narcissistic sexual preference, is not a class of people that needs civil rights or protection other than those already offered to the mentally ill. On closer inspection, why are homosexuals so brazen as to demand "rights" one way or the other? We ALL have the same rights, but that isn't enough for the "GAYS"? Please, it is, and they just need to get help for that broken sexuality of theirs. Not demand rights, acceptance or anything else.

 

[GreenBean]

I didn't insist that there was a conspiracy of gay people to control information.

The fact that your conspiracy is a delusion
Don't really need a scholar to debunk your conspiracy there isn't any facts that you presented, just paranoid garbage.
Studies? That prove the APA isn't controled by a secret conspiracy of gay people to um... You were never clear on their super villain plot. I don't think studies exist to debunk your delusions.

Yep so your paranoid delusions and make believe conspiracy theories thatyour entire argument hinges on is not really valid.


You ignored me because you are a pouty little child. Go on stock yourfingers inyour ears and scream conspiracy. You may want to fashion a tinfoil hat while you are at it.

I've temporarily unblocked you , so let's see if have some useful informationm to contribute....


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GreenBean : I presented factual evidence

HOWEY: Why has he claimed to have converted thousands of gays and has yet to name one name?

NOW >GreenBean : It has to do with client confidententiality and professional obligations to honor their wishes . There have been ex-gays who have come forward with their stories and all have hounded and harassed by the gaggles of gaydom. If you anything - I mean anything at all about the Medical or Mental Health field - you owuld know that he can't divulge their information - it's immoral, unethical , unprofessional and in many cases illegal - even were he ordered to divulge such information by a court of law - he would still have the right to invoke "client - counselor" privileges. PS: I hope you don't mind me adressing your posts as Howey and Inevitable on he same quote box - just saving time .

HOWEY: lol...no you didn't. You presented the insane ramblings of an insane kook who's been discredited by the profession.

Now>GreenBean : I noticed you and your alter ego conveniently ignored the post below - so I reposted it.

Yesterday >GreenBean :

So you feel Dr Cummings was a "Kook" when he authored and supported the motion to remove Homosexuality from the DSM - effectively delisting it as a Mental Illness ?? Hmmm - intersting point and not without validity - I hoave to agree that was a assinine move - so whatelse do you feelDr.Cummings has done that would classify him as a kook- other than to disagree with your wholly unqualified Opinion ?

And while you're at it what about Dr. Rogers Wright former member of APA's Board of Directors, who stated that "psychology has been ultra-libera...and beholden to the Gay Rights movement" Wright described the difficulties he has encountered with the American Psychological Association -

Or Dr. A. Dean Byrd another former APA officer who has bailed out of theorganization - because it has lost all crredibility

Or Dr. Frank Farley who stated that "...APA should give the widest possible hearing to Dr. Cummings' concern about APA's preoccupation with political correctness, and should instead focus efforts on the decline in psychological practice."

Or Dr. Jeffrey Satinover, M.D. In his talk entitled "Judicial Abuse of Scientific Literature on Homosexuality by the American Mental Health Professional Organizations," he offered a tediously referenced description of ethics and morals breeches in recent legal cases that have led to landmark changes in family-law policy.

Or Dr. Richard Fitzgibbons who has stated said that "the American Psychiatric Association (APA) has continuously ignored evidence that homosexuality is a manifestation of a psychiatric disorder."

Or Dr. Apu Chakraborty who has been blasted by the Gay Mafia for producing findings that were heresy to their ears and eyes - he prooved that the rates of mental disorder among gays were significantly higher,nay ridiculously higher than sane people. Rates of depression, anxiety, obsessive compulsive disorder, phobia, self-harm, suicidal thoughts, substance abuse , alcohol dependence. ......

I guess they were all quacks Right ? And of course you are much more qualified to judge the issues because you're a cock sucker - I'd call you a dirty cock sucker- but I have no proof of that and couldn't really give a flying fuck either - Oh and FYI -if you truly are a dirty cock sucker watch out for shigelosis - you don know what shigelosis is don't you? It's an extremely common disease among faggots - it comes from eating their partners feces [ when you suck off their dirty cocks ]

only thing I really have to say to you green bean is that I need proof that theAPA was taken or by homos

You are a sad little person, not only are you a degenerate , but you're a low IQ, poorly informed, uneducated and ignorant one-

My points stand unrefuted, you are a loser in life and probably always will be - die young and do the world a favor - Regards and best wishes.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Greenbean needs to keep seeing his lie about shigella.

He has not responded to it yet, because he can't.

shigellosis - definition of shigellosis in the Medical dictionary - by the Free Online Medical Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

Description Shigellosis is a well-known cause of traveler's diarrhea and illness throughout the world. Shigella are extremely infectious bacteria, and ingestion of just 10 organisms is enough to cause severe diarrhea and dehydration. Shigella accounts for 10-20% of all cases of diarrhea worldwide, and in any given year infects over 140 million persons and kills 600,000, mostly children and the elderly. The most serious form of the disease is called dysentery, which is characterized by severe watery (and often blood- and mucous-streaked) diarrhea, abdominal cramping, rectal pain, and fever. Shigella is only one of several organisms that can cause dysentery, but the term bacillary dysentery is usually another name for shigellosis.

Most deaths are in less-developed or developing countries, but even in the United States, shigellosis can be a dangerous and potentially deadly disease. Poor hygiene, overcrowding, and improper storage of food are leading causes of infection. The following statistics show the marked difference in the frequency of cases between developed and less-developed countries; in the United States, about 30,000 individuals are hit by the disease each year or about 10 cases/100,000 population. On the other hand, infection in some areas of South America is 1,000 times more frequent. Shigellosis is most common in children below age five, and occurs less often in adults over 20.

Shigella infection spreads through food or water contaminated by human waste. Sources of transmission are:

•contaminated milk, ice cream, vegetables and other foods which often cause epidemics
•household contacts (40% of adults and 20% of children will develop infection from such a source)
•poor hygiene and overcrowded living conditions
•day care centers
•sexual practices which lead to oral-anal contact, directly or indirectly

Nothing about homosexuals, but I imagine the last cause is overwhelmingly heterosexual.

 

[Inevitable]

I've temporarily unblocked you , so let's see if have some useful informationm to contribute....


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only thing I really have to say to you green bean is that I need proof that theAPA was taken or by homos

You are a sad little person, not only are you a degenerate , but you're a low IQ, poorly informed, uneducated and ignorant one-

I take that to mean you have no proof of the "homosexuals taking over the APA." And since your entire argument is based on discreditingthem you have utterly failed.

My points stand unrefuted, you are a loser in life and probably always will be - die young and do the world a favor - Regards and best wishes.

No your point is rubbish, it's a paranoid conspiracy theory.

That is likely why you have to lower yourself to calling me a "sad little person" and a "degenerate" with a "low IQ" that you ignorantly claim is "uninformed and uneducated." If you had an argument you wouldn't need to be reduced to slander and other such projections.

"When the argument is lost slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates-

Basics, since all you can do is slander me, that must mean you lost the argument.

 

[Inevitable]

First things first, I resent how homosexuals hijacked the word "GAY".

Tough cookies.

Second of all, a loose affiliation of wealthy people that identify with a broken narcissistic sexual preference, is not a class of people that needs civil rights or protection other than those already offered to the mentally ill.

Homosexuality is neither"narcissistic sexual preference" or a mental illness. Sorry kiddo the research has been doneproving that to be the case.

On closer inspection, why are homosexuals so brazen as to demand "rights" one way or the other?

Because they are American citizens andit is their right guaranteed in the first amendment.

We ALL have the same rights, but that isn't enough for the "GAYS"? Please, it is, and they just need to get help for that broken sexuality of theirs.

And if American people are allowed to marry the same gender, we would all still have equal rights, just more choice. What is broken about homosexuality?

Not demand rights, acceptance or anything else.

They can demand what ever they want.

 

[Noomi]

Why are straight men so concerned with what gay men do in the bedroom?

 

[Inevitable]

Greenbean needs to keep seeing his lie about shigella.

He has not responded to it yet, because he can't.

shigellosis - definition of shigellosis in the Medical dictionary - by the Free Online Medical Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

Description Shigellosis is a well-known cause of traveler's diarrhea and illness throughout the world. Shigella are extremely infectious bacteria, and ingestion of just 10 organisms is enough to cause severe diarrhea and dehydration. Shigella accounts for 10-20% of all cases of diarrhea worldwide, and in any given year infects over 140 million persons and kills 600,000, mostly children and the elderly. The most serious form of the disease is called dysentery, which is characterized by severe watery (and often blood- and mucous-streaked) diarrhea, abdominal cramping, rectal pain, and fever. Shigella is only one of several organisms that can cause dysentery, but the term bacillary dysentery is usually another name for shigellosis.

Most deaths are in less-developed or developing countries, but even in the United States, shigellosis can be a dangerous and potentially deadly disease. Poor hygiene, overcrowding, and improper storage of food are leading causes of infection. The following statistics show the marked difference in the frequency of cases between developed and less-developed countries; in the United States, about 30,000 individuals are hit by the disease each year or about 10 cases/100,000 population. On the other hand, infection in some areas of South America is 1,000 times more frequent. Shigellosis is most common in children below age five, and occurs less often in adults over 20.

Shigella infection spreads through food or water contaminated by human waste. Sources of transmission are:

•contaminated milk, ice cream, vegetables and other foods which often cause epidemics
•household contacts (40% of adults and 20% of children will develop infection from such a source)
•poor hygiene and overcrowded living conditions
•day care centers
•sexual practices which lead to oral-anal contact, directly or indirectly

Nothing about homosexuals, but I imagine the last cause is overwhelmingly heterosexual.

his entire argument is based on discrediting the APA. He has used such ridiculous laughable sources as "loony bird" which is nothing more that a tinfoil hat wearer's blog, Narth, which seems completely biased against homosexuality for reasons they fail to articulate and a handful of other biased opinion blogs that either completely lack study or the authors have completely misrepresented the studies they reference.

There is no reason to believe the APA was taken over by something as ridiculous as the gay mafia. So until evidence is shown that they are corrupted by a criminal organization of gay people, don't hold your breath, there is no reason to doubt their findings. All the crap he posts about some disease that he claims is incredibly common yet no gay person I know has suffered with symptoms (likely because it is a fabrication) is just bologna propaganda he is getting from his silly blogs.

Don't bother with the disproving of his propaganda, focus on the lack of evidence he has to discredit the APA. Everything he says depends on that. He got his panties all in a bunch whenI held his feet to the fire on that, he posted fifteen different slandersbut not a solitary shred of evidence that the APA is not credible.

I think it's great when he slanders me, it proves he has no rational argument. He would argueinstead of slander.

Hammer him with the APA shtick. That seems to be his weak spot. I didn't expect to find it so quickly

 

[Inevitable]

Why are straight men so concerned with what gay men do in the bedroom?

They probably aren't straight.

 

[Noomi]

Why are straight men so concerned with what gay men do in the bedroom?

They probably aren't straight.

Most of USMB must be gay then.

 

[Montrovant]

Why are straight men so concerned with what gay men do in the bedroom?

They probably aren't straight.

Why do people so often respond to questions like that by assuming the people in question must not be straight? People care about, discuss, argue about and insult things that they are not all the time.

Sorry, not trying to single you out as this is a common response. It just irks me, and reminds me too much of the thread I've been involved in for a while now claiming atheists who argue too strenuously with believers must secretly believe in god.

Straight men worrying about what consenting gay adults do in the bedroom may be asinine, but it's not indicative of being other than heterosexual. Indicative of a lack of intelligence, perhaps.