Why Jail for Kim Davis But Not for Sanctuary City Officials?

[beagle9]

False equivalency, Mike.

Rosa Davis wrongfully was denied equal access to public transportation.

Kim Davis wrongfully was denying equal access to county clerk services.

actually no. she just had to sit in the back of the bus...she was still allowed to ride.....

She paid the same fare as everyone else, yet was told she was not entitled to a white mans seat

but it was the law at the time....right...and you guys say that this clerk has to follow the law......so you agree Rosa parks, the NAACP activist should have obeyed the law...right?

Con-servatives don't do well with analogies. Parks was acting to change a bad law....the gay couples were acting to get a law enforced.

Which is a bad law..

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Been to a chic-filet lately?

Last week. And they no longer support anti-gay marriage groups, not that it matters.

 

[mdk]

These RWnuts want the state and local governments to be able to ignore same sex marriage law,

but not immigration law.

Interesting.

Wrong, the clerk violated law and should be punished in accordance with the law.

Question for you: Why was she denied bail? Is she a danger to society? Is she a flight risk? That is simply absurd.

The law is not valid, because it was pushed on the people unconstitutionally by rogue activist judges who are ruling by emotions and not by their adjudicating of the Constitution properly. The law they have ruled on is unconditional, and therefore should be null and void to follow. Making a person follow or abide by unconstitutional laws being created is a problem.

I wonder what carries more weight concerning the law in this nation? The opinion of the highest court of the land or the opinion of some Internet random? Yeah, I am going to have to go with the Supreme Court on this one. Sorry.

 

[rightwinger]

So only when your situation is life or death are you entitled to constitutional rights?

not even close to what I said. I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy of liberals who support the murder of unborn human beings, selling their body parts and then whining about gay marriage.

said another way; your priorities are all fucked up.

One has nothing to do with the other.
Abortion has been legal for forty years. You are welcome to try to change the law...gays did it, why can't you?

just because something is currently legal does not make it right or require that all citizens agree with it. Segregation was legal at one time, that was wrong and it has been corrected. Murder of unborn human beings is currently legal, that does not make it right, humane, or civilized. Harvesting the organs of aborted children is a depravity-----------and is illegal. So why is obozo still supporting PP and its illegal operations?

Very true

And you have access to our constitutional system to change those laws

The government does not support any Planned Parenthood functions related to abortion. The Hyde amendment precludes that

Are you serious? the primary function of PP is abortion. Its founder started the organization to limit the black birthrate and was a blatant racist.

You watch too much rightwing propaganda

Less than half of Planned Parenthood is abortion related services. The rest is birth control, counseling, women's health, mammograms, Pap smears and the like....that is what you want to cut since no federal funds go for abortion

Now your rightwing smears against Sanger are nonsense. She was generations ahead in her fight for reproductive rights. Her views on race were no different than her contemporaries

 

[rightwinger]

Kim Davis gets arrested for refusing to obey a clearly unconstitutional and immoral Supreme Court ruling. However, no action has been taken against the mayors and city council members of the co-called "sanctuary cities," cities that are openly defying federal law and whose refusal to follow the law has led to the murder of innocent Americans. Why the double standard?

Kim and her dubious lawyers went thru the legal process after a case was filled against her. Show us the case filled agains the Sanctuary cities and where those cases are at this time......and if there are no cases, why have you not made one yet?

Mainly because Sanctuary Cities are within their rights and they have no case

 

[beagle9]

Been to a chic-filet lately?

Last week. And they no longer support anti-gay marriage groups, not that it matters.

Hey you want one of them chicken sandwiches on Sunday? Ask them why don't they open up on Sunday ? I'm sure there are those offended by them being closed on Sunday, but should they be forced by a manipulated government to open If a few people complain about it ?

 

[beagle9]

not even close to what I said. I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy of liberals who support the murder of unborn human beings, selling their body parts and then whining about gay marriage.

said another way; your priorities are all fucked up.

One has nothing to do with the other.
Abortion has been legal for forty years. You are welcome to try to change the law...gays did it, why can't you?

just because something is currently legal does not make it right or require that all citizens agree with it. Segregation was legal at one time, that was wrong and it has been corrected. Murder of unborn human beings is currently legal, that does not make it right, humane, or civilized. Harvesting the organs of aborted children is a depravity-----------and is illegal. So why is obozo still supporting PP and its illegal operations?

Very true

And you have access to our constitutional system to change those laws

The government does not support any Planned Parenthood functions related to abortion. The Hyde amendment precludes that

Are you serious? the primary function of PP is abortion. Its founder started the organization to limit the black birthrate and was a blatant racist.

You watch too much rightwing propaganda

Less than half of Planned Parenthood is abortion related services. The rest is birth control, counseling, women's health, mammograms, Pap smears and the like....that is what you want to cut since no federal funds go for abortion

Now your rightwing smears against Sanger are nonsense. She was generations ahead in her fight for reproductive rights. Her views on race were no different than her contemporaries

Hey they gotta have some good out in front in order to hide the bad going on in the back room..

 

[beagle9]

A major problem in this nation now, is that the devil is using the race card to push his agenda to destroy this nation bit by bit and piece by piece..

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Been to a chic-filet lately?

Last week. And they no longer support anti-gay marriage groups, not that it matters.

Hey you want one of them chicken sandwiches on Sunday? Ask them why don't they open up on Sunday ? I'm sure there are those offended by them being closed on Sunday, but should they be forced by a manipulated government to open If a few people complain about it ?

What days they are open is up to them, as long as they treat everyone the same I couldn't give a damn.

 

[bodecea]

False equivalency, Mike.

Rosa Davis wrongfully was denied equal access to public transportation.

Kim Davis wrongfully was denying equal access to county clerk services.

actually no. she just had to sit in the back of the bus...she was still allowed to ride.....

actually as usual you are wrong. She had to sit in a particular section of the bus and was denied to sit up front and had to give up her sit, although she paid the same prices. The far right is relentlessly stupid.

that was wrong and has been corrected. This woman had the right to refuse service to gays knowing that she was violating the law. The muslim flight attendent refused to serve alcohol even though that was part of her job. Why is one form of religious protest ok and the other not?

And the muslim flight attendant should have been fired if she refused. Was she? She should have been.

 

[bodecea]

She paid the same fare as everyone else, yet was told she was not entitled to a white mans seat

but it was the law at the time....right...and you guys say that this clerk has to follow the law......so you agree Rosa parks, the NAACP activist should have obeyed the law...right?

Your analogy is incorrect

Davis is not Rosa Parks

Davis is the bus driver enforcing her bigotry on others

You are a fucking loser, and I think it is laughable that you and everyone like you pretend to care if a faggot gets married. I think you have actually convinced yourself that you care about it.

So, how about all of those mayors and judges and sheriffs that violate federal law for illegals? You know what? Fuck you and your hypocritical double talking answer.

You unreal pieces of shit can giggle away. Have fun. It is your time now. Know this. Your time will come when you will not be giggling anymore. Count on it.

Fuck you hypocrite.

Here is what gays had to do

When officials were not following the law, they went to court and they were ordered to do so. Why can't you do the same?

Kate's family is taking SFO to court for failing to follow US law and that that violation of federal law resulted in Kate's death.

Good. Then maybe something will get done. They should also take that agent who was irresponsible with his gun to court too.

 

[bodecea]

The far right, and some of the far left, are masters of false equivalency, then cry when they get caught.

Well Mike just brought up a great point, when it comes to following the law. We have judge Kim Davis being put in jail for refusing to issue marriage licenses in a state where the people voted in favor of traditional marriage. The Supreme Court made its own ruling against the voters, but the judge still followed what she believed was right in denying same sex couples marriage licenses. She is told she will be in jail until her beliefs are changed.

The San Francisco mayor believes what the city is doing is right,, by standing up to Federal law that supports immigration enforcement. Unlike the situation with Kim Davis, San Francisco's efforts have resulted in the death of American citizens. Still, it doesn't make major headlines with most of the media. There are no repercussions, no jail time for those responsible for violating federal law. Yes, there is an obvious double standard of enforcement and consequences for those violators here.

States also voted against integration. The courts ordered them to do otherwise. Davis does not have to change her beliefs but if her beliefs conflict with doing her job, she has to make a choice

That choice can't be forcing your beliefs on others

Hmmmmm, and forcing a baker to bake for a gay couple is not forcing your beliefs on others???? Double standard or hypocrisy-----------you choose.

I've told you many times, if you don't like the PA laws in your state, work to get them appealed...don't just whine about them.

 

[rightwinger]

One has nothing to do with the other.
Abortion has been legal for forty years. You are welcome to try to change the law...gays did it, why can't you?

just because something is currently legal does not make it right or require that all citizens agree with it. Segregation was legal at one time, that was wrong and it has been corrected. Murder of unborn human beings is currently legal, that does not make it right, humane, or civilized. Harvesting the organs of aborted children is a depravity-----------and is illegal. So why is obozo still supporting PP and its illegal operations?

Very true

And you have access to our constitutional system to change those laws

The government does not support any Planned Parenthood functions related to abortion. The Hyde amendment precludes that

Are you serious? the primary function of PP is abortion. Its founder started the organization to limit the black birthrate and was a blatant racist.

You watch too much rightwing propaganda

Less than half of Planned Parenthood is abortion related services. The rest is birth control, counseling, women's health, mammograms, Pap smears and the like....that is what you want to cut since no federal funds go for abortion

Now your rightwing smears against Sanger are nonsense. She was generations ahead in her fight for reproductive rights. Her views on race were no different than her contemporaries

Hey they gotta have some good out in front in order to hide the bad going on in the back room..

Name a single law they are breaking

 

[bodecea]

These RWnuts want the state and local governments to be able to ignore same sex marriage law,

but not immigration law.

Interesting.

Wrong, the clerk violated law and should be punished in accordance with the law.

Question for you: Why was she denied bail? Is she a danger to society? Is she a flight risk? That is simply absurd.

Are those held in contempt allowed bail? When and where does that happen?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Are those held in contempt allowed bail? When and where does that happen?

It doesn't.

 

[2aguy]

Rosa Parks made a stand for civil rights. Kim Davis is making a stand against civil rights. Pretty obvious what the difference is.

Yes...they were both breaking the law...right?

 

[rightwinger]

Rosa Parks made a stand for civil rights. Kim Davis is making a stand against civil rights. Pretty obvious what the difference is.

Yes...they were both breaking the law...right?

Many people break the law....doesn't make them heroes

 

[bodecea]

Talking about violating the law.....Obama makes a deal with a terrorist state, a deal that that country said openly it will not adhere to, then goes straight to the United Nations and gets the deal officially sanctioned by that body before he goes to Congress to get it ratified. And this isn't the first time. He's also signed weapons agreements with the UN without taking them to Congress to be ratified.

This is not only against the constitution but incredibly unethical.

Squirrel!

 

[NYcarbineer]

These RWnuts want the state and local governments to be able to ignore same sex marriage law,

but not immigration law.

Interesting.

Wrong, the clerk violated law and should be punished in accordance with the law.

Question for you: Why was she denied bail? Is she a danger to society? Is she a flight risk? That is simply absurd.

Go argue with the OP. He certainly doesn't think she's done anything wrong.

everyone is entitled to express their opinion. none of us is required to agree with everyone or anyone. See, thats the difference between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives think for themselves and many times disagree with other conservatives. Whereas liberals are all puppets who recite the same talking points and never dare to deviate from the required liberal mantra.

You're retarded. I don't see you taking on the OP.

 

[bripat9643]

False equivalency, Mike.

Rosa Davis wrongfully was denied equal access to public transportation.

Kim Davis wrongfully was denying equal access to county clerk services.

What does that have to do with Sanctuary cities? What about Kathryn Steinle? Her right to live was denied by the scumbag mayor of San Francisco who illegally provides sanctuary for criminals.