Why judge anyone? Why can't beliefs about transgender identity be respected equally?

[Soggy in NOLA]

I wrote, "Sorry, that's not how our democratic republic works." If you are setting a false standard for yourself, go ahead.

What you are admitting is that you don't like them. Who cares what you feelz about it?

You are the one who is mentally ill.

IOW you can't back up your claim that I wanted any part of any law against these people.. Got it.

And yes, how mentally ill a person must be for believing they have a right not to have THEIR rights violated by other people.

Meanwhile the guy who grows his hair out , tucks his penis in, puts on a dress and heels and calls himself a girl is sane.

LOL OMG you can't make this shit up, you really can't.

Yup. Any man that thinks he is a girl is off his rocker... as much so as a man who thinks he is a tree.

Now you're making fun of trans kingdom people. You racist.

Wait... these peeps are now their own race?

 

[Fair&Balanced]

I wrote, "Sorry, that's not how our democratic republic works." If you are setting a false standard for yourself, go ahead.

What you are admitting is that you don't like them. Who cares what you feelz about it?

You are the one who is mentally ill.

IOW you can't back up your claim that I wanted any part of any law against these people.. Got it.

And yes, how mentally ill a person must be for believing they have a right not to have THEIR rights violated by other people.

Meanwhile the guy who grows his hair out , tucks his penis in, puts on a dress and heels and calls himself a girl is sane.

LOL OMG you can't make this shit up, you really can't.

Yup. Any man that thinks he is a girl is off his rocker... as much so as a man who thinks he is a tree.

Now you're making fun of trans kingdom people. You racist.

Wait... these peeps are now their own race?

If a man thinks he's a tree, he has a right to plant himself in your front yard. If you deny him that right, you are a racist.

 

[Siete]

a 3 year old boy plays with dolls, wears his mothers heels and carries her purse, at 6 years old the same little boy feels more comfortable in the female role than the male role ... the child is neither mentally ill or sexually perverted.. its a gender issue, and that gender is part of his life until the day he dies.

people lacking critical thinking skills will never understand that so they hide their ignorance by doing the only thing they are capable of, place the blame on mental illness or sexual perversion.

The End.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I wrote, "Sorry, that's not how our democratic republic works." If you are setting a false standard for yourself, go ahead.

What you are admitting is that you don't like them. Who cares what you feelz about it?

You are the one who is mentally ill.

IOW you can't back up your claim that I wanted any part of any law against these people.. Got it.

And yes, how mentally ill a person must be for believing they have a right not to have THEIR rights violated by other people.

Meanwhile the guy who grows his hair out , tucks his penis in, puts on a dress and heels and calls himself a girl is sane.

LOL OMG you can't make this shit up, you really can't.

Yup. Any man that thinks he is a girl is off his rocker... as much so as a man who thinks he is a tree.

Now you're making fun of trans kingdom people. You racist.

Wait... these peeps are now their own race?

If a man thinks he's a tree, he has a right to plant himself in your front yard. If you deny him that right, you are a racist.

And I'm probably obligated to water him for life.

 

[SeniorChief_Polock]

The cocksuckers have progressed well under the Obama regime. They can now hang their nutsacks, or whatever is left of it, in any bathroom they wish
Get ready for a little letdown when trumps elected, assholes


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[Fair&Balanced]

a 3 year old boy plays with dolls, wears his mothers heels and carries her purse, at 6 years old the same little boy feels more comfortable in the female role than the male role ... the child is neither mentally ill or sexually perverted.. its a gender issue, and that gender is part of his life until the day he dies.

people lacking critical thinking skills will never understand that so they hide their ignorance by doing the only thing they are capable of, place the blame on mental illness or sexual perversion.

The End.

Leave that same boy alone and let him grow up naturally and by age 10 he feels like a boy again


Why? Oh that's fucking right, because he's a boy. His xx chromosomes prove it.

UNLESS they are as I said mentally ill and believe something that isn't true.

Science proves a boy can't become a girl. That's not possible. So that only leaves two options.

Option A) A mental illness that leads one to believe something that isn't true

Option B) A weirdo who is just seeking attention

There is no option C

 

[Fair&Balanced]

Amazing how the left scream about education yet here we see day after day that they hate math, they hate reading, they hate science, they don't really care for history. What the fuck do they consider education?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

a 3 year old boy plays with dolls, wears his mothers heels and carries her purse, at 6 years old the same little boy feels more comfortable in the female role than the male role ... the child is neither mentally ill or sexually perverted.. its a gender issue, and that gender is part of his life until the day he dies.

people lacking critical thinking skills will never understand that so they hide their ignorance by doing the only thing they are capable of, place the blame on mental illness or sexual perversion.

The End.

Yeah, it's so enlightened to think somebody that thinks they are something that they are not is normal. There's a woman out there I read about that thinks she is a dragon... yeah, mkay.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Amazing how the left scream about education yet here we see day after day that they hate math, they hate reading, they hate science, they don't really care for history. What the fuck do they consider education?

Peeing in the wrong bathroom of course.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

a 3 year old boy plays with dolls, wears his mothers heels and carries her purse, at 6 years old the same little boy feels more comfortable in the female role than the male role ... the child is neither mentally ill or sexually perverted.. its a gender issue, and that gender is part of his life until the day he dies.

people lacking critical thinking skills will never understand that so they hide their ignorance by doing the only thing they are capable of, place the blame on mental illness or sexual perversion.

The End.

Yeah, it's so enlightened to think somebody that thinks they are something that they are not is normal. There's a woman out there I read about that thinks she is a dragon... yeah, mkay.

I asked Jake about this guy earlier, he refused to answer

JakeStarkey is that guy a trans species , or mentally ill? Are businesses obligated to put a giant litter box in their restrooms so he has a place to comfortably take a shit?

Why won't you answer Jake?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

a 3 year old boy plays with dolls, wears his mothers heels and carries her purse, at 6 years old the same little boy feels more comfortable in the female role than the male role ... the child is neither mentally ill or sexually perverted.. its a gender issue, and that gender is part of his life until the day he dies.

people lacking critical thinking skills will never understand that so they hide their ignorance by doing the only thing they are capable of, place the blame on mental illness or sexual perversion.

The End.

Yeah, it's so enlightened to think somebody that thinks they are something that they are not is normal. There's a woman out there I read about that thinks she is a dragon... yeah, mkay.

I asked Jake about this guy earlier, he refused to answer

JakeStarkey is that guy a trans species , or mentally ill? Are businesses obligated to put a giant litter box in their restrooms so he has a place to comfortably take a shit?

Why won't you answer Jake?

That probably is Jake.... would explain a lot.

 

[Siete]

sad aren't they . ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

a 3 year old boy plays with dolls, wears his mothers heels and carries her purse, at 6 years old the same little boy feels more comfortable in the female role than the male role ... the child is neither mentally ill or sexually perverted.. its a gender issue, and that gender is part of his life until the day he dies.

people lacking critical thinking skills will never understand that so they hide their ignorance by doing the only thing they are capable of, place the blame on mental illness or sexual perversion.

The End.

Yeah, it's so enlightened to think somebody that thinks they are something that they are not is normal. There's a woman out there I read about that thinks she is a dragon... yeah, mkay.

I asked Jake about this guy earlier, he refused to answer

JakeStarkey is that guy a trans species , or mentally ill? Are businesses obligated to put a giant litter box in their restrooms so he has a place to comfortably take a shit?

Why won't you answer Jake?

And for the record, this person is mentally ill.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

sad aren't they . ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Why, for pointing out just how creepy you guys are?

 

[oreo]

What is wrong with people having conflicting beliefs about transgender identity.
To some people it's internal, and not a choice.
To others it's about external appearance, a behavioral choice.
Why not treat both approaches as creeds, and weigh and respect them equally under law?
Is that really too much to ask?

If Hindus, Muslims and Vegans don't agree on not eating beef, pork or no meat at all;
does this require govt to pass a policy imposing one and excluding another? For matters of beliefs or creeds, what happened to govt generally staying out of conflicts and letting people work it out and decide for themselves how to exercise their beliefs without stepping on each other's boundaries.

Do we see Lutherans suing to force Catholics to open up their communions to everyone to avoid discrimination? The policy of letting institutions work out their own systems works in private; why can't bathroom policies be treated as personal. Sure, where public institutions are involved, nobody should be discriminated against, but that goes both ways; a policy that seeks to CORRECT an issue of discrimination can't impose a different one and be pushed as a solution.

If a couple is the only Vegan at a dinner is there anything wrong with preparing a meal differently for that couple, WITHOUT changing the whole menu for all the other guests so they are all treated the same?

Let's compare some other scenarios, tell me if you see the similarities or not:

When Muslims want to pray at work, they may request a special arrangement with their management to have a quiet place to pray 5 times a day.
Does this mean EVERYONE has to be subject to that? No. it's kept in private.
There is nothing shameful about being different, and doing something in a private
room or corner that nobody else has to ask for and do.

If Christians want to express or share their beliefs in ways that affect others, people have the right to say NO I don't feel comfortable. Don't impose that on me in public, keep it in private. This isn't considered discrimination but courtesy to understand other people may not take it the same way it is meant.

Some people don't get how is it imposing on Christians to ask them to keep their ways to themselves. But some of their belief is based on duty to share with others, and they feel excluded and a sense of loss at being denied what is natural to them as free expression and exercise. to others it is imposing and pushing religion in public.

Here isn't something similar happening? Both sides have beliefs that impact the others.
Neither side is going to get their way without infringing on the sense of security of the others. So that is why Unisex restrooms or neutral / singlestalled facilities seem the best option which don't require EITHER side to change their views or change how they act.

The rest of the debate appears to be emotional attachment and personal meaning this issue has to different people.

Since it isn't scientifically proven what is going on with transgender identity, it's all personal beliefs and faith based. So why not respect those equally and impose none, and exclude none. Allow people freedom to work out their issues they are bringing to the table. And as for the restrooms, it seems unisex restrooms don't cause any conflict, so why not remain neutral? isn't that what govt policy should be ideally, totally neutral?

The emotional and personal factors involved here are what is really causing the debates to escalate beyond repair. The facts are simple that NOTHING is proven, so it's all faith based on both sides. The sooner we can accept that, and separate our personal stakes and meaning this has to us from the actual policies that are going to work or going to fail, the better we can take steps to avoid failure and to seek what is more effective.

I hope the hoopla and upset calms down, and people rise above the personal issues at stake to work out fair policies that respect all people and restore a sense of normal standards. Thanks for letting me share, and I hope you will also! Yours truly, Emily

It's because the majority are afraid of things that they don't understand. They're normal, so everyone else should be like them. It they're not like them, they're discriminated against, attacked and hated.

In my town, there was a little boy, a 1st grader, who's parents sent him to school in dresses. He wore his hair like a little girl, and he was happy being a little girl. You could not tell he was a boy. People blamed the parents for not whiping him into shape and thinking like a little boy. Once we learned more, we understood that the parents had tried everything--and nothing worked. So the school allowed this youngster to go into the girls bathrooms, and there was nothing more made of it. An instance where a little boy identified more with being a girl.
Transgender first-grader wins the right to use girls' restroom - CNN.com

Will there be some physcopath out there that will take advantage of dressing up like a woman and entering a woman's bathroom? I suspect some crazy will do that, but it won't be normal everyday activity.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

sad aren't they . ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

So , let me get this straight, Jake can throw around homophobic insults about Soggy wanting butt sex and that's okay with you, but I post a picture of a "trans species" and ask Jake how that's different than a "trans gender" and I'm sad?

You guys are ate up with the dumb asses.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

What is wrong with people having conflicting beliefs about transgender identity.
To some people it's internal, and not a choice.
To others it's about external appearance, a behavioral choice.
Why not treat both approaches as creeds, and weigh and respect them equally under law?
Is that really too much to ask?

If Hindus, Muslims and Vegans don't agree on not eating beef, pork or no meat at all;
does this require govt to pass a policy imposing one and excluding another? For matters of beliefs or creeds, what happened to govt generally staying out of conflicts and letting people work it out and decide for themselves how to exercise their beliefs without stepping on each other's boundaries.

Do we see Lutherans suing to force Catholics to open up their communions to everyone to avoid discrimination? The policy of letting institutions work out their own systems works in private; why can't bathroom policies be treated as personal. Sure, where public institutions are involved, nobody should be discriminated against, but that goes both ways; a policy that seeks to CORRECT an issue of discrimination can't impose a different one and be pushed as a solution.

If a couple is the only Vegan at a dinner is there anything wrong with preparing a meal differently for that couple, WITHOUT changing the whole menu for all the other guests so they are all treated the same?

Let's compare some other scenarios, tell me if you see the similarities or not:

When Muslims want to pray at work, they may request a special arrangement with their management to have a quiet place to pray 5 times a day.
Does this mean EVERYONE has to be subject to that? No. it's kept in private.
There is nothing shameful about being different, and doing something in a private
room or corner that nobody else has to ask for and do.

If Christians want to express or share their beliefs in ways that affect others, people have the right to say NO I don't feel comfortable. Don't impose that on me in public, keep it in private. This isn't considered discrimination but courtesy to understand other people may not take it the same way it is meant.

Some people don't get how is it imposing on Christians to ask them to keep their ways to themselves. But some of their belief is based on duty to share with others, and they feel excluded and a sense of loss at being denied what is natural to them as free expression and exercise. to others it is imposing and pushing religion in public.

Here isn't something similar happening? Both sides have beliefs that impact the others.
Neither side is going to get their way without infringing on the sense of security of the others. So that is why Unisex restrooms or neutral / singlestalled facilities seem the best option which don't require EITHER side to change their views or change how they act.

The rest of the debate appears to be emotional attachment and personal meaning this issue has to different people.

Since it isn't scientifically proven what is going on with transgender identity, it's all personal beliefs and faith based. So why not respect those equally and impose none, and exclude none. Allow people freedom to work out their issues they are bringing to the table. And as for the restrooms, it seems unisex restrooms don't cause any conflict, so why not remain neutral? isn't that what govt policy should be ideally, totally neutral?

The emotional and personal factors involved here are what is really causing the debates to escalate beyond repair. The facts are simple that NOTHING is proven, so it's all faith based on both sides. The sooner we can accept that, and separate our personal stakes and meaning this has to us from the actual policies that are going to work or going to fail, the better we can take steps to avoid failure and to seek what is more effective.

I hope the hoopla and upset calms down, and people rise above the personal issues at stake to work out fair policies that respect all people and restore a sense of normal standards. Thanks for letting me share, and I hope you will also! Yours truly, Emily

It's because the majority are afraid of things that they don't understand. They're normal, so everyone else should be like them. It they're not like them, they're discriminated against, attacked and hated.

In my town, I there was a little boy, who's parents sent him to school in dresses. He wore his hair like a little girl, and he was happy being a little girl. People blamed the parents for not whiping him into shape and thinking like a little boy. Once we learned more, we understood that the parents had tried everything--and nothing worked. So the school allowed this youngster to go & into the girls bathrooms, and there was nothing more made of it.

Will some men take advantage of dressing up like a woman and entering a woman's bathroom? I suspect some crazy will do that, but it won't be the norm.

And I will reiterate my question. why is that little boy's comfort more important and more worthy of legal protection than any other person's? If you come back with "civil right" don't bother because you know that is a bullshit deflection. This is about comfort, and I'm fine with finding a way to make EVERYONE comfortable, but this drive towards this bullshit is solely geared at making the mentally ill comfortable with no regard towards anyone else.

 

[GWV5903]

9 out of 10 idiots on this thread don't know the difference between transgender and transexual..

they have a mental disorder ... they're F'n STUPID !

No not really, you have been convinced they are different, when in reality they are very much alike, that would mean you're the fucking idiot who is suffering from a mental disorder...

I rest my case.

You don't have a case dumb dumb...

Yup, Siete does, and you have lost and been stood down.

So the party of science is selective when to apply it?

The stupidity never ends with you does it...

9 out of 10 idiots on this thread don't know the difference between transgender and transexual..

they have a mental disorder ... they're F'n STUPID !

No not really, you have been convinced they are different, when in reality they are very much alike, that would mean you're the fucking idiot who is suffering from a mental disorder...

I rest my case.

You don't have a case dumb dumb...

one of the collective has spoken ^^^^^^^^

It's really cool how you seem to have created a new species yet no one knows this but a select few imbeciles...

The world according to Flaky, Siete and the rest of the delusional minority...

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

sad aren't they . ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

So , let me get this straight, Jake can throw around homophobic insults about Soggy wanting butt sex and that's okay with you, but I post a picture of a "trans species" and ask Jake how that's different than a "trans gender" and I'm sad?

You guys are ate up with the dumb asses.

It's what they do with everything, it has nothing to do with acceptance of anything other than their beliefs or you are a ____________________. Fill in the blank.

 

[Siete]

What is wrong with people having conflicting beliefs about transgender identity.
To some people it's internal, and not a choice.
To others it's about external appearance, a behavioral choice.
Why not treat both approaches as creeds, and weigh and respect them equally under law?
Is that really too much to ask?

If Hindus, Muslims and Vegans don't agree on not eating beef, pork or no meat at all;
does this require govt to pass a policy imposing one and excluding another? For matters of beliefs or creeds, what happened to govt generally staying out of conflicts and letting people work it out and decide for themselves how to exercise their beliefs without stepping on each other's boundaries.

Do we see Lutherans suing to force Catholics to open up their communions to everyone to avoid discrimination? The policy of letting institutions work out their own systems works in private; why can't bathroom policies be treated as personal. Sure, where public institutions are involved, nobody should be discriminated against, but that goes both ways; a policy that seeks to CORRECT an issue of discrimination can't impose a different one and be pushed as a solution.

If a couple is the only Vegan at a dinner is there anything wrong with preparing a meal differently for that couple, WITHOUT changing the whole menu for all the other guests so they are all treated the same?

Let's compare some other scenarios, tell me if you see the similarities or not:

When Muslims want to pray at work, they may request a special arrangement with their management to have a quiet place to pray 5 times a day.
Does this mean EVERYONE has to be subject to that? No. it's kept in private.
There is nothing shameful about being different, and doing something in a private
room or corner that nobody else has to ask for and do.

If Christians want to express or share their beliefs in ways that affect others, people have the right to say NO I don't feel comfortable. Don't impose that on me in public, keep it in private. This isn't considered discrimination but courtesy to understand other people may not take it the same way it is meant.

Some people don't get how is it imposing on Christians to ask them to keep their ways to themselves. But some of their belief is based on duty to share with others, and they feel excluded and a sense of loss at being denied what is natural to them as free expression and exercise. to others it is imposing and pushing religion in public.

Here isn't something similar happening? Both sides have beliefs that impact the others.
Neither side is going to get their way without infringing on the sense of security of the others. So that is why Unisex restrooms or neutral / singlestalled facilities seem the best option which don't require EITHER side to change their views or change how they act.

The rest of the debate appears to be emotional attachment and personal meaning this issue has to different people.

Since it isn't scientifically proven what is going on with transgender identity, it's all personal beliefs and faith based. So why not respect those equally and impose none, and exclude none. Allow people freedom to work out their issues they are bringing to the table. And as for the restrooms, it seems unisex restrooms don't cause any conflict, so why not remain neutral? isn't that what govt policy should be ideally, totally neutral?

The emotional and personal factors involved here are what is really causing the debates to escalate beyond repair. The facts are simple that NOTHING is proven, so it's all faith based on both sides. The sooner we can accept that, and separate our personal stakes and meaning this has to us from the actual policies that are going to work or going to fail, the better we can take steps to avoid failure and to seek what is more effective.

I hope the hoopla and upset calms down, and people rise above the personal issues at stake to work out fair policies that respect all people and restore a sense of normal standards. Thanks for letting me share, and I hope you will also! Yours truly, Emily

It's because the majority are afraid of things that they don't understand. They're normal, so everyone else should be like them. It they're not like them, they're discriminated against, attacked and hated.

In my town, I there was a little boy, who's parents sent him to school in dresses. He wore his hair like a little girl, and he was happy being a little girl. People blamed the parents for not whiping him into shape and thinking like a little boy. Once we learned more, we understood that the parents had tried everything--and nothing worked. So the school allowed this youngster to go & into the girls bathrooms, and there was nothing more made of it.

Will some men take advantage of dressing up like a woman and entering a woman's bathroom? I suspect some crazy will do that, but it won't be the norm.

prev men who dress like women are interested in men, not women and little girls .... these RW's morons must be afraid they'll like it like that.